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AMAs (84,674) by Nicole from US I would just prefer if she sang an oldie like Make it Happen so she could actually move and sing. I'm sure "With you" would be downloaded more by people. He he. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 18:12)

Re: The ultimate disgrace (84,652) (84,673) by RD from South Africa You think that you are funny, don't you? You are just a clown and you always have nothing good to say about MC. You don't appreciate the fact that she still makes music and didn't fade away after the 90s like other artists. I guess it must be the bad weather that makes you a bitter and miserable person. You are a sad case indeed. I have another meet and greet with Mariah, and I'm going to ask her this time, if she reads fan sites. I understand your opinion that you are disappointed with Mariah's current music and performance but it gives you no right to be so insolent and derogatory towards her. As for salad... naaah, I will not take your suggestions because I don't take advice from the mentally unwell. Stop torturing yourself with "With You" and go play "English Country Garden" on repeat. I am sure you can sing along to that very well. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 18:08)

Please please prove them wrong but... (84,672) by Nicole from US Lemme tell you guys I hate the music that these millennials listen to nowadays. Gone are the type of singers that chart because of their voices. The 90’s was proof of that. I maybe getting to that age but hell I'm not going to be calling myself eternally 12 either. But come on now Bebe Rexha or Taylor, Ella Mai? At least what these girls lack in their voices they make up with their videos or live performances. I mean I would even prefer Nicki Minaj over Cardi B because that girl gave very good critiques during the Idol days in terms of singing. Nicki even gives respect to singers and legends. I want Mariah to prove to the naysayers that she could actually deliver. But you know these lackluster performances make people talk so badly about her shot voice. When is Jay ever going to say something about it? (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 18:08)

Common sense is not that common (84,671) by Ethan from United States One time at the 2018 AMAs Mariah didn't move much and some "lambs" and other people criticized. How could she move with that specifically choreographed routine? I guess she could move up and down with her legs or have more hand gestures. Didn't she move/walk around at the iHeart Radio Festival? Anyway, it's one of the more artistic and visually numbers since her performance of WBT at the MTV Movie Awards back in 2005 (honorable mentioned All I Want for Christmas at the VH1 Divas Live since the choreography was great). Yes, the live singing was questionable with layered vocals and backup vocals. At least Billboard ranked her performance at #11. And is someone on here going to criticize about that? Higher? Lower? Mariah's had several peaks in her career and that's the way it is. I guess when you're in the public eye, that's online "bullying" that people have to endure. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 18:02)

Re: Just why? (84,663) (84,670) by Nicole from US Nobody asks her about the voice because her team already gives the questions to be asked. I mean I am just wondering if we are the only ones noticing these things or are we just crazy. But someone really needs to step up because apparently the public humiliation during that NYE performance wasn't really a good wake up call. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 18:00)

No win situation (84,669) by Matthew from USA If she lips badly, we will mock her for being so lazy she can't even properly lip. If she lips perfectly, we will mock her for lip synching in the first place. If she sings live and sounds exactly like the studio recording, we will say she's lip synching because it's impossible for her to sound exactly the same as she did six months ago when she went into the studio to record the song. If she sings live and sounds a little different from the studio version, we will says she clearly pre-recorded an alternate version of the song to fool us into thinking she's singing live. If she sings live and sounds absolutely ratchet, we will agree she's singing live but say it's an absolute shame that her team let her come out on stage like this. If she's live and she refuses to sing and instead walks around the stage mumbling things, we will say it's a disgrace and she should have at least lip synched for heaven's sake. In this day and age, there are many ways to promote an album. She can do radio interviews, host her own radio show, do cameos on tv shows, license a song for a soundtrack, do merchandising, release a memoir, or do concerts where the fans seem to leave smiling and singing her songs. She should just skip these performances because it doesn't seem like she can win. I personally thought the performance was a win, even though I don't really like the song. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 17:53)

Re: AMA performance (84,655) (84,668) by RibbonB from USA Yes the liveliness or lack thereof has been an issue for a while now. She's still a favorite diva but after this round of fall and holiday season tour dates are done, I hope she takes a minimum two year break. Enjoy those kids. Perhaps a period of mothering and mundane matters could be good after the last few years of circus. There's so much she can do until the kids turn ten. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 17:03)

Re: Mariah redefines "bare minimum" yet again (84,651) (84,667) by Special K from USA That's right give my baby some credit. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 16:42)

Re: The ultimate disgrace (84,652) (84,666) by Jamie from UK I rest my case. This type of offensive messaging towards other members should not be allowed. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 16:41)

AMA performance (84,665) by Special K from USA I just watched it on YouTube. Wow, visually stunning and the concept of the dancers coming up from underneath her dress was just absolutely fabulous. Great choreography. Hehe. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 16:38)

Re: One more thing (84,660) (84,664) by Chicago Lamb from USA Yassssss. Can't wait for the album. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 16:38)

Re: Just why? (84,649) (84,663) by ADAM from USA This charade has gone on way too long - she can't sing anymore. It's an open secret that her voice is gone. It's not mean spirited or haters. Only she knows what altered her voice but the fact that she ad libs several notes during a song does make her a "singer". This is pathetic and should be called out. Parading herself on TV and in concert lip syncing is in-authentic and a sham. She needs to address her vocal decay if she is going to continue peddling lies. Otherwise just transition into something else - writer, actress, author, make up guru, etc. What grates my nerves is whenever she is interviewed no one inquires about these kinds of concerns. But knowing how aloof Mariah is, she barres any of the truth getting anywhere close to her. Nick was right. She wants to live in her self imposed bubble. She has enough money and protection she can do that. What matters to her is her millions and her beauty. If only she cared 1/2 as much for her fans and authenticity as much as she cares for her beauty, we'd be set and not disappointed. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 16:14)

AMA's (84,662) by Tameka walker from United states I don't think she was lip synching. Did anyone see how she was listening to the backing track. She also was careful how she sang in tune. Plus her back up singers were there. Just because it was vocally flawless does not mean she had too have lip darn if you do darn if she doesn't. Every since 2001 after her breakdown the public have been against Yeah she had a massive comeback. But even the bar was set pretty high. Other people come out with songs and they hit number one. The way she gets treated is disgusting. It is as if she has to have 100 comebacks in order to be accept. I respect everyone opinion. Also I know not everyone will like MC music but I love her so much. Her music brought me through a lot. Love ya bye. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 16:12)

Mariah's top efforts (84,661) by Lafa from Sweden Mariah's best vocal effort is "So Blessed" to me, after that I'd say "Make it Happen" comes close to genius vocally if you really pay attention. But two of the most loved to really sing along too in my world is "Never Forget You" and "Dreamlover (Def Club Mix)". (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 16:00)

One more thing (84,660) by Jonathan from South Africa The new album is coming soon and with that will brings lots and lots of disappointment. So I really advise you guys to get out now. No need for more disappointment and misery especially with the holidays coming up. Mariah will be okay. She always is. She now makes music for the people like me, blind fools. I love her. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 15:45)

Be nice or leave? (84,659) by Jamie from UK The rules quote "Messages that are insulting (to Mariah, other artists or members of this messageboard) will not be posted." So why is it certain members of this forum are allowed to? Mariahs rep was right last night "Wow we can't even get through five minutes without someone trying to tear her down." This forum is becoming so negative it's draining. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 15:16)

Re: The ultimate disgrace (84,629) (84,658) by Jonathan from South Africa Mariah does everything to infuriate you guys. She can't sing anymore, she looks like a stripper... and the list goes on. Well the joke is on you guys because you keep coming back onto her fansite. Get a life. Get some help. Find a hobby. Support somebody else. Use that energy on something productive. It's like being in a bad relationship and all the other person does is let you down but you keep going back expecting them to change even though they never said they would. Mariah is a legend. She has her beautiful kids and loads of money. She has the adoration of millions of people and always will have love. She is not gonna change and she doesn't have to. Move on guys. Support Ariana. She still doesn't have a number one yet. Maybe you guys can help her out. Mariah doesn't need you guys. Most of all do it for yourselves because you are in the wrong place and I'm sure it is quite draining. Accept the woman for who she is and how she chooses to live her life and sing her songs. Shame man I am sure most of you are older than me, I shouldn't have to be telling you this. Much. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 15:14)

AMAS (84,657) by Carlos from Brazil So you really think JLo didn't lipsync and many others? Oh please. Even Post Malone lipsynched. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 15:12)

Re: The ultimate disgrace (84,629) (84,656) by T from USA Maybe you should finally go? But you won't. You're stuck in 1995 dude. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 14:22)

Re: AMA performance (84,647) (84,655) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter She looked absolutely stunning, her hair and body was serving TEOM realness, but her face was even prettier than it was in 2005. I liked the visuals, they were beautiful and went with the dreamy mood of the song. However I yearn for a time when Mariah will have better stage presence instead of just standing in one place. I want something like what she did with her VH-1 performance of ILT where she wore that orange dress and was full of energy, or her TEOM Grammys performance. I just want her a little more lively on stage. But baby steps I guess she is still nervous of big events which will be broadcasted since her NYE disaster. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 14:21)

With You, AMA's (84,654) by Chicago Lamb from USA I don't think it matters if she lipped, sang over a track, adlibed or what. What matters here is that the media is calling it perfect. And perfect it certainly was. Not every viewer knows the intricate details of her voice and in regards to this particular performance, would know what lines were lipped or not. The point is for the performer's voice to blend well, as she did last night. Bravo Mariah, you nailed this one. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 14:14)

Re: AMA's (84,626) (84,653) by Andrew from UK "She sang live"? You have lost all credibility once and for all. Completely. It is clear now that you are not delusional but an intentional liar. Jesus wept. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 14:05)

Re: The ultimate disgrace (84,636) (84,652) by Andrew from UK I'll do you a deal, I'll keep my mouth shut if you opt for a salad once in a while. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 14:03)

Mariah redefines "bare minimum" yet again (84,651) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines This is exactly the type of lazy-ass nonsense that really disappoints me - the woman clearly has got no shame. Releasing a song that's not radio material - that's fine, we can work with that. I like the song and even love parts of it. But miming pretty much an entire performance of the same song that is probably the easiest lead single for her to sing since 1990 is just straight up insulting. We have also apparently reached a point where Mariah cannot even (or at least refuses to) coo live. Just how dumb does she think her audience, let alone her fans, are? No one deserved this - not all of us, not the song, and definitely not past Mariah who actually performed. It doesn't take more than 3 listens of the studio version for anyone to realize that that sham of a performance was almost identical to the original save for that intro (which, if we're being generous, is probably the only set notes she sang live), those cut out parts which the background singers do their thing and the finale without the whistles which is just a full voiced version of the fade out in the studio version. What part of "variation" does she not get? I mean literally, like down to the freaking vocal ad-libs / embellishments? Not to diminish everything she has achieved in the past, but come on, who are we fooling? And the worst part is that future performances of this song will most likely be no different. I understand perfectionism, or that she will never regain her confidence in performing live on TV, but the fact that she's willing to sacrifice her dignity for her to poorly cover up her insecurities is just sad. But then again I guess that isn't such a stretch when she already dupes her fans millions of their hard-earned money for supposedly live vocal showcases. On with the positives, though - we all know Mariah has superior static leg strength - I mean not many people are capable of not getting a cramp after not moving below the waist at all for around 5 minutes whilst on killer heels - that was actually more impressive than her actual performance. Kudos to her dancers including Bryan who choreographed their number as well as the backup singers for doing all the work to make her look good. She did look stunning and every bit the diva she is; the visuals effect was quite incredible, and since that's really been the ultimate goal for her since 2010, we could say it's been more than achieved this time. It's just really hard when someone you root for who is currently in the best place she has been in career-wise in a long time wouldn't even try. We all really wanted her to do well. Sorry, just needed to get that off my chest. You know what they say, you know something's up when the nice ones lose it. I hope my next post will be nicer. Now excuse me as I'mma take a much-needed essential oil break to calm down. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 13:49)

Re: AMAs (84,648) (84,650) by Bobby A from United States I agree with you, but I just don't want believe that she needed to lip With You with my first post about the AMAs. It is such a simple song vocally. So, what are the real reasons she gets so nervous and stiff during her performances? Are her nodules causing breathing issues? Did anybody see how out of breath she was at the end of the performance? Is her range so far gone now? What about the look on Post Malone's face at the end of the performance? I love MC, but she can not continue to lip sync at every performance. I suggest she spend a couple of Sundays at Baptist church singing with all of her might church hymns to congregation to overcome her vocal issues. Nobody cares at a Baptist church if you off key and pitchy. Anyway, I am afraid for this new era because her peers think she has become a manufactured studio singer who can not replicate her songs live anymore. MC15 is shaping up to be DOA. Where is your intervention RocNation? Somebody sit MC down and have a heart to heart talk with her. (Wednesday 10 October 2018; 13:40)

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