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Re: Mariah sales (86,497) (86,511) by Edward from USA Barbra Streisand has always had loyal fans that support her, but because she's always been consistent and they've never felt alienated by her. We don't really know what kind of artist Mariah is anymore, I actually take her as-is, not expectations, less disappointments. She lost a whole chunk of her fan base when she went full-blown hood-ghetto wannabe, the other chunk she lost with her diva antics and crazy behavior. Barbra fans are not toddlers or teens, but Mariah seems to be catering to 12-21 year olds. It is actually amazing she still can pull 50K albums considering that in the past few years, she's been in the limelight for her failed lipping, questionable behavior and a crazy reality TV show. As I said before, fans alone won't take Mariah's music anywhere, if the general public doesn't connect to her and her music, it's a big fat wrap. It's a good thing that damage control has been set in place for a while now, but it will take time for people to actually acclimate to her again, it's what happened with TEOM, but the music was crazy good back then and the money was rolling in. Caution is a good album, short and sweet. Yes, it's not classic Mariah at all, but it's a good album nonetheless. We all wanted Mariah to produce songs she could sing live, but I thought she would at least go all out on some of the songs. She never really raise her voice on any of the songs and the second part turns into a boring fest. Runway is actually the only song in the album on which Mariah's voice sounds as good as anything on E=MC2, but she decided not to put it in the album. It's a good thing I got my hands on it, because it's an excellent album closer for me, at least it pleasantly wakes me up at the end if I fall asleep from "The Distance" on. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 22:04)

#1 still going the distance (86,510) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Just a thought: The Distance would have been the perfect song to close out #1 to Infinity album, rather then Infinity. The message and vibe of The Distance would have been a perfect closer and thank you to the fans for the support that gave her 18 #1s. I do like Infiniy, and listen to it regularly, however the celebratory sound and intrumentation of Infinity has never lined up with the diss lyrics imo. The flow from Touch My Body into The Distance would have been smooth, and The Distance's characteristics are more inline with the vibe the first 18 tracks set up. Rename the album "#1: Still Going the Distance". Just a thought for fun. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 21:05)

Article: Mariah Carey "Caution" 50 thousand isn't bad (86,509) by Stefan from Germany There is a Berlin radio station - Peli One - which is playing "With You" and "The Distance" once or twice a day. So even today there are great radio stations with excellent choice of music. By the way, I love the album. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 20:31)

Sales (86,508) by Liz Archer from Sweden Honestly, I don't think people buy CDs anymore. It's all about listening to Spotify or iTunes. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 20:02)

Re: Selected Target stores only (86,491) (86,507) by Angela from San Jose, California Where you been girl? I kind of miss the "crazy" Mariah though. Ah wait, I take that back no I don't. . Anyways I was shopping at Target and Caution was sold out. The manager told me they didn't order that much because they weren't sure what the demand would be. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 20:02)

Re: Mariah sales (86,485) (86,506) by Angela from San Jose, California Great post Jamie. You gave me clarity and I believe you are absolutely right. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 19:49)

Lambs vs reality (86,505) by Andrew from UK Lambs: "Caution is brilliant and going to sell millions and be number one." Reality: "Sorry, lambs, Caution is average at best and hardly anyone bought it." Lambs: "It doesn't matter she doesn't need to sell it, it's a great body of work and she has nothing to prove." Reality: *smacks forehead* (Sunday 25 November 2018; 17:44)

Re: Mariah sales (86,487) (86,504) by B from USA Excellent observation about Cher's album being an album of Abba cover songs tied a hit film. If it wasn't it wouldn't have sold as well. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 16:53)

Perez Hilton (86,503) by B from USA Perez Hilton is irrelevant. Who cares what he says on his blog. He deserves the gragging he's receiving. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 16:50)

Re: Mariah sales (86,496) (86,502) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I agree MusicFan1. The general public don't follow her like we do and if we her fans were not resonating with her during the last few years, you can be sure the public wasn't. Considering where she was a year ago, her team has done amazing. People don't just automatically start to hang out with you again after the kind of backlash she had. It takes time and consistency for that. Nice to see "Caution" get some attention. I just love it. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 16:17)

Re: Giving Me Life (86,492) (86,501) by Chicago Lamb from USA GML has become my new favorite on the album. The whiole "CD" has been on repeat since release. It feels like what Memoirs should have been. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 15:39)

Re: YVR airport GTFO (86,488) (86,500) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Nice to hear about something here. Thanks. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 15:29)

Re: Giving Me Life (86,492) (86,499) by MusicfanJ from Germany This song is everything. The last minute is magical. I love the guitar and her high notes so much. "Giving me life" is from the beginning to end a masterpiece. I wonder about who she is singing. Maybe it's just her perfect imagination. I can't get enough of this one. It has this cool roof vibe but even "deeper". Pure genius Mariah. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 15:09)

Re: Mariah sales (86,482) (86,498) by TJ from Norway Are you sure that there are still 100,000 lambs/fans in the US? I'm not sure. It seems to me that they don't have to paint that wagon anymore. They need to build a new one, because her fans seems to be falling off. I guess the wind isn't called Mariah at the moment. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 14:33)

Re: Mariah sales (86,485) (86,497) by Shezz from Pk I remember Barb[e]ra Streisand had an album out around Memoirs or MIAMTEC and she sold a whole lot more first week and got a number 1 album. However, this time her album that was released a week or two ago sold around 30k only. Cher's high first week sales was an anomaly for a legacy artist and interest in her album was boosted by the Mamma Mia movie. I don't think promotion or roll out made much of an impact on the sales of Caution. A hit single would have helped sales. Remember TEOM was released off the heels of two hit singles and Touch My Body, the record breaking number one propelled E=MC2 sales. No songs from Caution manages to crack the top 100. All things considered, these sales figures are pretty decent for Mimi. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 14:30)

Re: Mariah sales (86,485) (86,496) by MusicfanJ from Germany "I think some fans were probably disconnected after the last couple of years." I think the same. And the general public has problems with her image, "the over-the-top diva". Last year was the only time I really wasn't able to recognize Mariah at all. And I'm a fan since 95. I mean we fans know her diva playing and humor. But what was going on a year ago, was just shocking. Mariah looks so much better and healthier now. Everything changed in a positive way since then. So I'm a bit surprised of the sales too. Anyway I love "Caution". It just gets better by every listen. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 14:27)

Re: Selected Target stores only (86,481) (86,495) by MusicfanJ from Germany That's true. I like Cher a lot. I love when they are playing her hits on the radio. Always feel good songs. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 12:29)

Lambs in France (86,494) by Lara from Middle East Is the physical copy of Caution available? I usually go to FNAC, any other retailers suggestions? Traveling for her concert in 10 days and I wanna buy the CD since it's still not available here. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 07:53)

Re: Mariah sales (86,473) (86,493) by Jono from USA I've given up on sales/chart positions when it comes to Mariah. She's already achieved everything, there's nothing left for her to prove. The only reason why I'd care about sales is so that the record company can stay afloat and keep supporting acts like Mariah. I'm not obsessed about her "getting her 19th #1" because honestly what difference would that make? The only reason why I'd want her to release good singles is so that the general public, and not just the Mariah fans, discover her brilliance. If TEOM had not happened, I wouldn't have become a Mariah fan. At this stage in her career I'm judging solely on the work, and Caution is her best album in 13 years. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 07:36)

Giving Me Life (86,492) by Angela from San Jose, California Giving Me Life is an example of the genius of Mariah Carey. I agree with others who have expressed that Mariah needs to do an epic mini movie/video for this song. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 06:32)

Re: Selected Target stores only (86,483) (86,491) by Angela from San Jose, California Special K girl. MIAM did 58,000 in its opening week. Besides Cher's album was all about ABBA and the movie Mamma Mia. Give Caution some time to marinate. It's obvious Mariah is working to rebuild her image and reconnect with her fans. As a die hard fan, I couldn't be more pleased and excited about this era. Mariah is simply glowing, the way she is dressing is just fabulous, the interviews are on point, she isn't rambling, actually answering a dang question, she appears to have put the diva act in the closet for now, and frankly Mariah is everywhere. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 06:24)

50k 2018 ... 58k 2014 (86,490) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I'm impressed with 50k for Caution. Mariah has a lot of amends to make with the general public, sadly. After Mariah's World, I think the casual fan gave up. She's been killing it this era with her public persona, in a 1998 fashion. However, to sell 50k with no Billbaord Hot 100 at all. That's bloody, f***'in fantastic. MIAM had a #15 and #88 on Billboard and sold 58k in 2014. This is music sales in 2018 we're dealing with. Drop a Lil' Kim and Cardi B remix of A No No, with a dope, Touch My Body/Heartbreaker level of craftsmanship video, and this ishhh could be a slow burn explosive. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 02:32)

The bright side (86,489) by RibbonB from USA Caution is getting great reviews and maybe this time around she will get appropriate Grammy recognition. I will reiterate though, that no matter how much she calls some songs fun loving, or for laughs, that petty is played out, or should be for her. Tell those stories a better way. From infinity to GTFO. A No No may have a chance due to the classic track and potential remix collaborators. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 02:21)

YVR airport GTFO (86,488) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I heard GTFO at the airport in Vancouver on my way to Miami last week. it was a censored version obviously. But I tripped, people were grooving in the airport bar when it played. (Sunday 25 November 2018; 02:20)

Re: Mariah sales (86,485) (86,487) by Tyler from USA I agree as you can't compare MC sales to Cher and Janet. Mimi's image is in recovery mode from NYE and the diva attitude that turned so many away. Over 45k in pure sales is actually pretty good and solely reflects her fan base. Winning back her fan base is critical if she's ever going to have a comeback. Streaming typically reflect the general publics interest (which is why it's only 7k). Caution is basically Charmbracelet, but ten times better. Hopefully, this is a prelude to her TEOM (the follow up album). (Sunday 25 November 2018; 01:57)

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