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Re: Messages here (84,485) (84,490) by Lexingz from Estonia
90s Mariah if you were talking to me then yes, basically that's what I mean.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 14:56)
Re: Nick Cannon’s mind games (84,488) (84,489) by RibbonB from USA
Lol, I got to it before you. Hi, I'm looking forward to the whole interview. I hope dem babies and Golden will be shown. Looks like he has given the littlest one a cameo in the latest movie he's filming about basketball. Very cute.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 14:42)
Re: Nick Cannon’s mind games (84,486) (84,488) by Licia from USA
Come through Ribbon with the good word this morning.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 14:26)
Re: Maybe it's time to pass the pen (84,481) (84,487) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Ben Margulies was great. I love all the songs he wrote with Mariah. Timeless quality music. Instead of another hot DJ/rapper or famous hip-hop/rnb producer. James Poyser, Walter A., David Foster and many more are top musicians/producers who could bring back the contemporary sound. And I'm sure they would love to work with Mariah again. Or some unknown professionals or at least not so famous ones who could also bring back a more soulful vibe with real instruments. That would be a big surprise and no trend at all. I think a lot of music lovers would appreciate it, enjoy it and buy it.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 14:20)
Re: Nick Cannon’s mind games (84,484) (84,486) by RibbonB from USA
All of those outlets are pulling from an hour long retrospective of his life and career, in an episode of Uncensored. They talk about his childhood, career, children, etc. The Mimi segment is one part of it and at the end of it he says that they are good just how they are now. So he's been over it and has said many times that there is no going back. Some of you fans are so insecure about anything he says, lol. Sure there is plenty that he can say, but he's been gracious enough not to.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 13:50)
Re: Messages here (84,482) (84,485) by 90sMariah from SG
You mean her dress in I Don't and that YouTube Christmas video with DJ Khaled? I can't wait with those. Lol.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 13:26)
Nick Cannon’s mind games (84,484) by Fresh from USA
So AOL, Daily Mail, Entertainment Tonight, People, Page6 are all writing about how Nick "wooed" Mariah. TVone, Splash TV also uploaded an interview of him talking about how everything started for him and MC. Even got Da Brat to talk about it on Dish Nation. Lmao we see what you're doing Nick. Too bad Mariah don't read, watch and is too in love with Tanaka. We can sense how hard you're trying to make Mariah reminisce of your "romance". But it's too late homeboy. She's in love with someone new. She's just one of your "baby mommas" as your word, now. You did your ex wife too dirty. She's looking the best she's ever looked and is in such a great place. Unbothered, successful and still sexy as hell. Eat your heart out darling.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 13:00)
Re: Maybe it's time to pass the pen (84,471) (84,483) by Lexingz from Estonia
Very interesting point. In my dreams Mariah is one of those artists like David Bowie (or even Cher or Tina Turner) who keeps moving with the times and releasing new and fresh material in their own signature style into old age. Bowie released some of his best material at age 50 and way beyond - he is also one of those great singers whose voice changed dramatically over the years. Fingers crossed, excited and all that.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 12:00)
Re: Messages here (84,479) (84,482) by Lexingz from Estonia
You know what? To me it isn't even about being a whore or not. I don't care. Rihanna and J.Lo dress buttnaked all the time and that's fine by me, they pull it off and it looks like an artistic statement. The thing is that Mariah's "whore" looks were never very well executed and they just fell flat for the lack of context and vision.

Mariah used to be next to naked in many videos, like Honey, The Roof, Crybaby, Breakdown and so many others. And wearing swimsuits and bra tops and booty shorts during Glitter and videos like "Loving You Long Time" or "Touch my Body". Nobody called her a whore then, because they were obviously just fun, well thought through stage costumes. All of those looks were done with style and taste.

It's not about being naked. It's about lacking style and artistic direction and vision of what the hell the artist is trying to portray. It becomes a problem when the visuals start taking away from the music, which has happened repeatedly for the last couple of years.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 11:50)
Re: Maybe it's time to pass the pen (84,480) (84,481) by Bill from the UK
Bring back Ben Margulies.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 11:02)
Re: Maybe it's time to pass the pen (84,464) (84,480) by Jamie from UK
It’s been 21 years since she collaborated with Walter, she’s had plenty of great songs without him. They probably wouldn’t have the chemistry anymore it’s been that long. People need to move on.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 08:13)
Re: Messages here (84,443) (84,479) by 90sMariah from SG
Re: Mariah dressing like or wearing shoes like a prostitute's, let me quote Dave Chappelle about this topic. It's brilliantly funny:

The girl says "Oh uh-uh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a wh*re." Which is true, Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't even forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is confusing. It just is. Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us. Come on. They're over here. Help us." "Oh-hoh. Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer." See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a wh*re. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 07:02)
Amas (84,478) by Lara from Middle East
Now that JLo is performing, ladies should bury the hatchet and perform together Do You Know Where you're Going to since it's their common song. If they're planning on feeding that stupid feud then I guess Mariah should sing GTFO instead of WY.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 06:56)
Re: Rumor (84,434) (84,477) by 90sMariah from SG
If he's rumoured to be as talented as Mustard, then I'm worried.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 06:41)
Re: Mariah (84,447) (84,476) by george golden from uk
Please stop. You are one of the reasons she has become lazy. With You is not single material. It is dated and the lyrics are silly. GTFO would have been a great first single and would have charted high with a great video and not that boring video.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 06:35)
Re: AMA performance of With You (84,453) (84,475) by RibbonB from USA
Here's a little video from E discussing Jennifer and Mariah on the AMA awards. Ironically, this is another DCP production. Let's hope we don't have a Nicki and Card moment. Just give us a decent performance.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 05:46)
Re: Article: Mariah looks chic for date night with boyfriend Bryan (84,462) (84,474) by Atwood from NY
I thought it was about Nick.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 04:37)
Billboard Hot R&B Songs (84,473) by B from USA
GTFO debuted at #23 on Billboard's Hot R&B Songs chart last week.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 04:03)
With You (84,472) by B from USA
Uproxx praises With You as a breathy, piano-led R&B number and Mariah referencing Usher's Confessions and The Roof.

Billboard praises With You as a sultry and inviting. Highlighting the finger-snap beat and Carey's voice being front and center.

Spin praises With You as a satisfying and wistful slice of classic Carey-esque R&B. Also highlighting DJ Mustard production.

NPR praises With You, especially it's structure and lyrics, as having that timeless Carey touch. Highlighting the pre-chorus nod to Breakdown.

With You is being praised by critics and yet according to the consensus on this board it's an uninspired hybrid of We Belong Together and Love Story that is a poor choice as a single. Can someone please explain the disconnect? Personally. I love both songs and I'm looking forward to Mariah's new album. Call me crazy or delusional I don't care, lol. I hated Triumphant and thought it was a horrible song and single choice because it was and not even the vintage remix was able to redeem it.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 03:32)
Re: Maybe it's time to pass the pen (84,464) (84,471) by B from USA
If Reid was at Epic Mariah would be releasing a standards album or a duets album. He views her solely as a legacy artist. Shortly after his firing Mariah's deal was renegotiated and from the press release from Epic regarding GTFO and With You whoever is now in charge at Epic now views Mariah as a viable act.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 02:32)
Re: Heartbreaker (84,463) (84,470) by RibbonB from USA
They are listening to four or five songs, but signed confidentiality agreements, so they can't speak on it. But a few have at least claimed it's lit or classic Mariah, whatever that means.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 01:27)
Re: With You (84,466) (84,469) by RibbonB from USA
It's now the post, buzz, pre-single, single. Mariah needs to release Portrait, since that is the gem based on the listening parties, or just drop the CD soon.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 00:54)
Re: Maybe it's time to pass the pen (84,464) (84,468) by RibbonB from USA
Do let the Walter A. idea go. It's been stated, suggested, implored, many times over many years, in my case, that Mimi should let others write for her. I wish she would. A way to ease into that is an album of covers, but surely she feels too young for that. But there are great writers and teams who I'm sure would, could craft her some gems. And yes I'm sure she could add her signature arrangements and lyrics to make them her own. I believe she did that with Miguel's Beautiful. Mimi likes to do things her way, within her bubble.
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 00:50)
With You (84,467) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
Aside from the repeated hook, and the "Mustard on the beat" tag, With You doesn't really fit into today's standard of a top 40 single. It would have been right at home during the mid-late 2000s, but definitely not today. That being said, again, it is a conglomeration of her past material - the sparseness and simplicity of WBT, the subdued performance for majority of the song from Candy Bling, the storytelling of Love Story, the singalong flow of DFAU, and some of the vocabulary and vibe of TAOLG. It is therefore expected from her. But sometimes, when everyone rooting for you is expecting you to do the unexpected, then doing something completely expected becomes the unexpected. Nothing currently on the charts sounds like this. And we all know no one can pull this sound off better than Mariah, even in her current vocal state. If y'all don't like it, then take a break and just remind yourselves this and GTFO are just two songs that may not be representative of the album. For all we know they may be the worst ones in there. Look, even Taylor Swift led her reputation era with the weaker songs. I know it's not the best comparison, and I may just be being too optimistic right now, but I guess I'm just too excited for the new album, even if only half of the people here are at this point. Bring on the album. I wouldn't mind it being called "The Tea", "Lemme Have My Tea", "Spilling the Tea", "Tea is Served", "I Was Told There Would Be Tea" or anything with the word "tea".
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 00:26)
With You (84,466) by Bill from the UK
(Waits patiently for With You to be downgraded to a buzz single.)
(Sunday 7 October 2018; 00:14)

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