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Re: Studio singer? (82,933) (82,944) by RibbonB from USA
She certainly seems more comfortable singing in studio, than singing live on stage. I still love her though, she remains on my shortlist of faves due to her tone, and her songs. There are many greats, legends even who still sing strong, effortless even, into their sixties and seventies. Mimi is not one of them, but perhaps this new found touring is her setting the stage for the legacy leg of her career. Still perfecting how-to translate her best to the stage.
(Friday 29 June 2018; 13:59)
Re: Studio singer? (82,940) (82,943) by Randy from USA
Thanks Special K for the love and you hit it right on the head with insecure perfectionist. That describes so much of what she does. And This is ghm what you said makes a lot of sense. What she puts down in the studio is so much better than her contemporaries but damn near impossible to replicate live. Whereas what they put down in the studio is easy to surpass live and MC can barely replicate her music let alone surpass it. What I think is interesting is a few years back someone on this board said that it's the music that lasts forever no one remembers the live performances. But thanks to YouTube, live performances matter. And of course as I've told you guys a lot, on social media, at parties, and among friends we argue about divas like they're sports athletes. When it comes to numbers, I can tout Mariah all day. Then when we start comparing performances, I have to stfu and take my seat because I only have a few good ones.
(Friday 29 June 2018; 13:31)
Drake - Emotionaless (82,942) by steviej from uk
So it seems that the almighty Drake has succumbed to the charm and longevity of Mariah and her music by sampling Emotions on the new track which was released today.
I got me thinking about hour Mariah is seen within the industry and her peers and how this compares to the press and public. These two seems to be very mis-aligned and go to prove that talent and brand are understand separately...
Anyways, enough analysis. Thanks Drake for repping our girl and on a hot track too. Now for the surprise live performance at one of his shows as lord knows the Emotions intro is one this MC still feels comfortable performing live.
(Friday 29 June 2018; 08:37)
Emotionless (82,941) by RibbonB from USA
Here's to Mimi getting her 19th number one via a feature with Drake. His new song Emotionless samples Emotions. Good move. Good song, considering. So Drake confirms that he is a "baby daddy" in the song. It is what it is, so here's to using a great concept for spilling the tea.
(Friday 29 June 2018; 07:42)
Re: Studio singer? (82,933) (82,940) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
Great point. I also believe that Mariah has always been more of a studio singer than a live performer. Which is of course not to say that Mariah doesn't do well live, as have an overflowing arsenal of amazing performances especially from her prime that prove she deserves her legendary status. It boils down to individual differences. Whitney and Celine are better equipped as live belting workhorses, while Mariah is an inconsistently brilliant live performer who surpasses the former two in other aspects such as creativity, artistic instinct, songwriting abilities and versatility. Some people are physiologically more capable of doing 2-hour shows every other day and Mariah is not one of them. Plus, Mariah herself said it in an old interview to promote Rainbow - she has this bad habit of writing songs in a higher, more difficult key to sing in because to her it somehow "sounds better" that way. Which is of course alright when you're in a controlled environment that allows you to do countless retakes. The flipside of this is that she fails to consider the actual possibility of performing her songs live. I feel like that is why she always resorts to the same old songs on her setlist no matter how varied she promises it to be beforehand. It's less because of the fact that they're fan favorites or #1s but more likely because of her comfort level with performing such songs (mostly) live. We all know that Mariah has only become lazier as a performer throughout the years, relying more and more on theatrics, visuals and gimmicks that, while makes things more interesting, distracts from the true highlight of any Mariah show - the (now mostly prerecorded) voice. There's been so much smoke and mirror-tactics that she has employed in the last few years to varying degrees of success that it's become hard to ascertain whether or not she is still capable of pulling off an honest-to-god, fully live performance of any song that isn't VOL. But I guess that's what makes us fans, because at the end of the day, we still believe in her enough to never give up on her.
(Friday 29 June 2018; 06:34)
Re: Fourth of July/Underneath the Stars Mash Up (82,936) (82,939) by Licia from USA
I had completely erased Why You Mad from my life. Thanks Bill for bringing that nightmare back up. Mariah, French, and Justin must have been on that good stuff to come out of the studio thinking they came up with a masterpiece. Lol. [#10
(Friday 29 June 2018; 03:41)
Re: Studio singer? (82,933) (82,938) by Special K from USA
Damn you fine. Oops. Back to your question. I think Mariah is an insecure perfectionist.
(Friday 29 June 2018; 01:15)
Re: Fourth of July/Underneath the Stars Mash Up (82,931) (82,937) by RibbonB from USA
But why you mad?
(Friday 29 June 2018; 00:50)
Re: Fourth of July/Underneath the Stars Mash Up (82,931) (82,936) by Bill from the UK
That is true lol. I don't even go near Boy and Why You Mad and Infamous and Crapfinity and I Don't and Did I Do That and Can't Say No and Triumphant and The Star and Bet'cha Gon' Know feat R Kelly.
(Thursday 28 June 2018; 21:08)
Re: Studio singer? (82,933) (82,935) by Tijl from Belgium
You do have a point there Randy. Years ago, at the end of the '90s, a friend of mine who worked as an operatic vocal coach, told me that Mariah indeed had a unique voice. But the extensive use of her pipes in the beginning of her career ruined her vocal abilities forever. She further told me that any singer should take a decent amount of rest and really pamper their instrument. Mariah did nothing but work, work, work. This in combination with the extensive travelling and an overload of performances and interviews is anything but what a singer needs to prolong their potential. Nevertheless I believe our girl is still a force to be reckoned with.
(Thursday 28 June 2018; 18:01)
Webmaster/Eric (82,934) by Randy from USA
I updated my picture and now a picture of MC is up instead of what I uploaded. Did I do something wrong? Email me what I'm supposed to do because I want my picture up lol I'm not one of these members hiding behind MC. [Webmaster: You can only upload pictures with the extension .jpg, .gif or .png.]
(Thursday 28 June 2018; 17:10)
Studio singer? (82,933) by Randy from USA
This is for die-hards and those who can remain objective. What do you guys think about MC being labeled a studio singer? We all at one point thought that MC was the best vocalist in the world. But the live performances really started getting bad about 7 years into her career. The other day I was looking through the Billboard book of number ones and Narada Michael Walden who produced I Don't Wanna Cry was talking about how many times MC re-recorded parts of that song until she thought it was perfect. I even read during Honey she gave Diddy hundreds of tracks to choose from but wouldn't let him in the studio while she recorded her vocals. So this got me to thinking. Did MC really shoot herself in the foot by recording things in pieces in the studio and putting it all together when it was perfect? When you add that to her insecurities it made sense that she would fall apart on stage. For a woman so vocally talented, why was it hard for her to show out on stage for the majority of her career? It seems I can pull three times as many amazing, awe inspiring performances from Jennifer Hudson, Whitney Houston, Patti Labelle than I could MC. But their tracks on the albums are not vocally as amazing and awe inspiring as a Never Too Far or a Vision of Love. So does this mean MC is a studio singer? And please don't attack me or start with the nuances MC does that others don't. Nuances is what has some people calling Brandy the vocal bible on Facebook and to me she's a little more than mediocre. Sorry to ramble.
(Thursday 28 June 2018; 16:44)
Re: iHeartRadio festival (82,929) (82,932) by B from USA
My intent was to let those who cannot attend the concert know that it is aired by The CW in the fall. Usally, the first week of October. I also did not know that you had already posted about it.
(Thursday 28 June 2018; 16:14)
Re: Fourth of July/Underneath the Stars Mash Up (82,927) (82,931) by Licia from USA
Well at least I'm trying to give the songs I don't care for another chance. With the exception of Crapfinity. [censored] that song. They could mix that song in with a bunch of songs I like and I wouldn't even press play. Lol.
(Thursday 28 June 2018; 15:26)
Re: Mariah the trendsetter (82,870) (82,930) by B from USA
MIAM was recorded over the course of five years yet is Mariah's best album since 2005. The album has a cohesiveness that E=MC2 and MOAIA do not have. You would assume that Memoirs would be her most cohesive album since it was written and produced primarily by Mariah, Tricky, and The Dream but it doesn't. Instead of being a cohesive solid body of work it's a repeative and uninspired collection of 2008-2009 R&B. It's Mariah's most dated album. Obsessed, H.A.T.E.U., and JD's remix are the only essential recordings from that era although I do love Candy Bling. I wish she had included the criminally underrated Almost Home on MIAM instead of The Art of Letting Go and her forgettable collaborations with R. Kelly and MJB. I don't care if Mariah releases her new album this year or next year I just hope it's an amazing body of work that sounds nothing like MIAM or any of her releases from the aughts. I want a classic Carey album inspired by her work in the 90's like Always Be My Baby, Slipping Away, Melt Away, and Underneath The Stars.
(Thursday 28 June 2018; 15:08)
iHeartRadio festival (82,929) by B from USA
Mariah is performing at the iHeartRadio festival which airs in the fall on The CW. [Webmaster: This is old news, I already mentioned this on my website three weeks ago.]
(Thursday 28 June 2018; 14:39)
Re: Triumphant (82,917) (82,928) by Tijl from Belgium
I really like Triumphant although Mimi only does background vocals. There was a time when I needed the message of the song every day.
(Thursday 28 June 2018; 10:11)
Re: Fourth of July/Underneath the Stars Mash Up (82,921) (82,927) by Bill from the UK
Hahah. I've never known a Mariah fan before who dislikes every song she's ever recorded.
(Wednesday 27 June 2018; 20:14)
Re: Underneath the Stars/Fourth of July Mashup (82,919) (82,926) by Andrew from UK
So we are agreed in that the "we did this then this and it made this happen" storytelling and the setting of a scene and creating atmosphere is preferential to more "down wiv da kids" lyrics and "you make me feel this wayyyyy" way-overdone stuff. Adele has thrived from it because it is what people have reacted to for a while now. Somebody Like You is a shining example of a heartbreaking moment when you desperately revisit an ex that had moved on. Whether in your head or not. It is a universal experience. When We Were Young is a good example of nostalgia tinged with sadness. People want stories, honesty, atmosphere, mood - not constantly generic lyrics. In my opinion. If one more song comes out with people arguing over who the [censored] it is about - Luis or Motorola or the Smurf - then stick a fork in me. I'm done.
(Wednesday 27 June 2018; 20:04)
Re: Triumphant (82,918) (82,925) by Andrew from UK
Better to lay claim to background vocals on Tryumfun than lead vocals on Infuhmuuuuuhhhz.
(Wednesday 27 June 2018; 19:56)
Re: New album (82,908) (82,924) by B from USA
Mariah had financial problems in 2001? She was paid a $21 million advance in 2001 for Glitter and bought out of her contract for $28 million in 2002.
(Wednesday 27 June 2018; 18:15)
Re: (82,902) (82,923) by B from USA
I agree with your descriptions of each of Mariah's albums except Memoirs.
(Wednesday 27 June 2018; 18:07)
Re: Underneath The Stars (Smooth Harmonies Version) (82,920) (82,922) by Licia from USA
This one is nice too. *waits patiently for you all to post more*
(Wednesday 27 June 2018; 17:04)
Re: Fourth of July/Underneath the Stars Mash Up (82,914) (82,921) by Licia from USA
This is nice. I've never been a huge fan of 4th of July (don't say it Bill lol), but this mash-up makes me appreciate it a little more.
(Wednesday 27 June 2018; 17:03)
Underneath The Stars (Smooth Harmonies Version) (82,920) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
Heard this yet? Smooth, intricate ethereal harmonies. Mariah at her true vocal peak. The perfect balance between levity and gravity.
(Wednesday 27 June 2018; 12:35)

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