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Re: Videos (81,390) (81,394) by MusicfanJ from Germany Hi Edward, I think a lot of the lambily like Nick Cannon. I always thought Mariah and him look like a nice, sweet couple. She was always smiling and seemed very happy. Nobody will ever know the true reasons why it didn't last, it's private so everyone is just speculating including me. It's great that the kids have loving parents. I just don't like how he spoke in the past in some interviews about Mariah. There was one interview I won't repeat what exactly he said, but it was nothing a gentleman would say and tell the public. And I don't believe he had no chance to do right. Family should always be first, not the tv jobs. Let the people talk. He knew that she's one of the most famous singers in the world. Not easy, for any man. There are so many examples where the women were more famous and more powerful which lead to problems: Arthur Miller/Marylin Monroe, Richard Burton/Liz Tyler, Bobby Brown/Whitney Houston just to name a few. It has nothing to do with the skin colour or nationality. Like you have mentioned even a billionaire like James Packer couldn't handle it. I leave this topic that Mariah is no saint but Nick is also not only the almighty/Mr. Incredible ok? (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 23:15)

Re: Videos (81,390) (81,393) by Lila from United States "Nick is a good parent and that makes people crazy, it makes them angry that he's not just what they expected him to be. He's present in his kids lives and that's what matters." Besides his color, I definitely think this is what's setting off a lot of fans with these videos. I don't think most care about Nick teasing Rocky about his boots. Looking around at most of the negative comments, it seems to me that they really have this idea in their head of Mariah as a single parent or that For Hire is the kid's father and he's helping to raise the kids. No lie. A loser whose living off of their mother's money, that's who they think should be a father figure to them. To them, since Nick doesn't post a lot of pictures or videos with the kids, he's not with them, especially since he, and I know this is a sin, works. The vids that Nick has put up look to be across at least two days in a row, so they most likely stayed the night and these are so soon after his being with the kids at the Aquarium; it's bursting their bubble. So, now that their illusion that Nick is never around is damaged, they have to latch onto something else. And at the end of the day, Nick isn't crazy about Rocky's Uggs but he looks to have the right to choose what he wears seeing as he's worn them more than once in Nick's presence. That's all that matters. And looking at the vids, he didn't care about his dad's jokes nor took them seriously. He obviously has more humor and fortitude than many grown adults. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 22:55)

Packer (81,392) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Being realistic Packer was not going to last because to be honest the kids didn't really seem to connect with him, also Packer even though he had more money he was not going to be able to handle the extras and also MC's the entity was going to be a problem. Besides that I think that James would rather be with someone who is more submissive. On another note Mariah is human just like the rest of us, she is entitled to make mistakes just like we do, it's just her mistakes and missteps are magnified because of her who she is, and the weight her name carries. We have all made mistakes in relationships it's just ours are not on display for the world to see the way Mariah's are. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 22:36)

Re: Videos (81,390) (81,391) by RibbonB from USA Edward, can we give hugs with our thumbs up? Preach. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 21:29)

Re: Videos (81,379) (81,390) by Edward from USA It takes two to tango, yet it seems to be that Nick was dancing the tango by himself, Mariah was just a damsel in distress who at that time only had slept with the equivalent 2.5 fingers worth of men, not even the equivalent of a complete Mary Poppins, "Hair Mariah full of Grace". She was done wrong by this black, thirsty, womanizer, big mouth, player man. We must say that when a black man doesn't have a job, he's a bad black man. When a black man has multiple jobs, he's also a bad black man. When he's a good parent regardless whether he's married to his baby mamas, he's also a bad black man. Some people are so full of shit/crap they should have three toilets in their house. Make a man feel emasculated and let's see how many minutes your marriage is going to last. They were destined to fail. Nick overworked his ass off trying to prove people wrong, yet it was never enough. And he cracked like any man would have. Nick is a good parent and that makes people crazy, it makes them angry that he's not just what they expected him to be. He's present in his kids lives and that's what matters, minus the pressure of being labeled all sorts of stuff just for being Mr. Carey. I'm happy for him and for his kids. Not even Shrek could deal with Mariah and her entourage, but I guess he was just another bad man. JD was responsible for demise of MIAM and Migrate should've been a single. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 21:08)

Re: "My All" (Divas Live) (81,383) (81,389) by MusicfanJ from Germany Love it too, it's a legendary concert. I watched it on tv, was it 98? I still have it on a VHS cassette. I feel old haha. Since then I love it. I totally agree, she was rocking the stage, a true diva. Everything was on point. The other divas/singers were great too. Good times. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 21:06)

Re: Videos (81,384) (81,388) by RibbonB from USA I think Nick was a good choice and he helped her in a lot of ways. But Mimi has shown poor choice in male friends for years. I see nothing different in the paid one on staff now. When that story ends "cue the violins and violas", to quote the eloquent miss Janelle Monae from "Django Jane". (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 20:58)

Re: Being honest (81,385) (81,387) by RibbonB from USA I agree, but did he actually say they aren't manly? I just see it as teasing, which in excess is not cool though. It's sort of like why Mimi let Roc use a binky until dang near puberty, even though Nick hated it. Mimi joked about that during the marriage and we kept seeing that thing during the divorce. Where co parenting stalls I suppose. But yeah both parents did things, some of which made me SMH. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 20:50)

Re: Videos (81,378) (81,386) by Bill from the UK Nick was a marriage, with children. Damizza was an ill advised fling. I think MC respects Nick's permanent position in her life, and that of their children, to not write a low rent diss song in the style of Thirsty about the father of her children. During the writing of MIAM, Mariah and Nick were married, and the album notes state how much she treasures her family. People over analysed everything in those songs once the divorce was public, but that album was in the works for years don't forget. Tom Fords, @-ing MC on Insta were all things Damizza was doing after they split, posting pictures of them and so on. Not sure if you've read Damizza's book, but he has a chapter about Mariah ("Don't Forget About Us") which is really interesting. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 19:45)

Being honest (81,385) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) If I have to be honest both Nick and Mariah played a role in why they split. No one is better than the other on that front. The most important thing is to be the best parents possible for Roc and Roe. The only thing I don't like with Nick is him making fun of Roc for liking to wear to Uggs because he claims they are not manly. He is a child for Christ sake it is not a big deal. As long as the twins are clean, healthy, and being brought up and raised in a productive, and healthy environment that is all that matters. Everything else that happened in the past between Nick and Mariah should be left behind. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 14:18)

Re: Videos (81,379) (81,384) by MusicfanJ from Germany All the things Nick said during that time were so tasteless and hurtful. Imagine your husband would talk like that. It's not acceptable. I think even as a comedy act/entertainer it's completely wrong to talk about those private things. We all know Mariah hates it like nothing else. So maybe to be more "provocative" at the end was his plan like "the real deal" on this board said. I still think Nick was a bit starstruck from the beginning and realized that Mariah is only human with mistakes like everyone else. To be called Mr. Carey and took a back seat is not easy as well. But no surprise. That she trusted a self-exposer with a big mouth is hard to understand. Well must have been love. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 14:06)

"My All" (Divas Live) (81,383) by Billy from Greece Lately, I've been obsessed with Mariah on the first VH1 Divas live concert. The way she owns the stage with "My All" from the very first step she takes is monumental. Every breath she takes, every muscle she moves, every look she gives, everything is flawless here. Not to mention the resonance in the first chorus in the "cause I can't go on" part. Just shattering. Next month it will be twenty years since the show took place. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 14:05)

Re: Martyn (81,377) (81,382) by Andrew from UK "She was kinda magical, her laughter sent you casually floating through a moment of release. No, I'd never dreamed that there would come a time." That picture just reminded me of that song. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 13:25)

Re: Videos (81,378) (81,381) by RibbonB from USA Not to mention, Thirsty is a song about regret and remorse at the demise of a relationship. Mimi literally "don't know him", which is why the other is " Damizzerable". Whatever their association, Mimi dusted her hands and gave ugly little "Damizzerabke" dust, unlike breaking up with Nick which seemingly filled her with regret, especially with kids involved. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 12:39)

Re: Martyn (81,377) (81,380) by Licia from USA That's beautiful. *I'm not crying...* (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 07:48)

Re: Videos (81,376) (81,379) by Licia from USA Nick had a big mouth their whole relationship. (That's the one thing I agree with everyone on. He talked entirely too much lol.) In my opinion the things he said were not any worse at the end than they were at the beginning. I think most of you are making the things he's said bigger now because y'all are upset he had the audacity to file for divorce from the Mariah Carey. Had she been the one to do it we wouldn't even be having this discussion. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 07:44)

Re: Videos (81,371) (81,378) by Mara from United States I have heard the rumour that Thirsty was about Damizza but I personally think it has Nick written all over it. If you think about it, all of MIAM is a telling story about her marriage falling apart, so why would she break the formula and place a song about Damizza in the mix? I suppose anything is possible, just my two cents. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 02:15)

Martyn (81,377) by Bill from the UK Nice memorial for Martyn. I'm sure he'd be delighted. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 20:26)

Re: Videos (81,370) (81,376) by The Real Deal from USA I always felt that Nick started saying things publically at the end of his marriage in order for Mariah to get mad enough to want to divorce him. Examples: When he went on the radio show and talked about all the female celebrities he had sex with before marrying Mariah, when he was interviewed on the red carpet about who had a great butt and he said Nicki Minaj (who Mariah as we all know had just finished having drama with on Americasn Idol a year before), when he started talking about the things that him and Mariah did in the bedroom. I really feel like he did all of these things with the hopes of her saying "I can't take this. You're outta here." Ironically she didn't and he ended up filing for divorce and the reason that he gave for it was such a bullshyt one. Something to the effect of "The relationship wasn't growing." (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 19:02)

Re: Videos (81,372) (81,375) by MusicfanJ from Germany Ribbon B. you're right "Faded" and "Cry" are also obvious. I always get a little sad if I listen to them. I usually love her sad, longing songs but with the slow songs on MIAMTEC it's different because of the divorce in real life. And I still wonder if "Don't explain" was a "message" or not. I hope the new album has more songs with a positive energy. To quote Licia, "To be fair lets put all her wrong doings on the table too." That's true, they are both grown-ups and they both made mistakes I guess. If they are all happy or at least ok with the situation, that's fine. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 17:45)

Re: Kelly Clarkson: I don't think about you and Mariah (81,369) (81,374) by RibbonB from USA She is always so sweet to Mariah, but she is such a cornball. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 17:36)

Re: Videos (81,372) (81,373) by RibbonB from USA And not to mention You Make it Look Good and You Don't Know What to Do and probably all of the rest. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 17:17)

Re: Videos (81,368) (81,372) by RibbonB from USA Nick was publicly and openly dating multiple women and he has said he was never in a relationship with the new baby's mother. She got pregnant, and he is now co parenting with her as well. This was all during the time Mimi was engaged and dating someone else at the same time, while filming a reality show. Surely the kids will have many questions and lots of material to read about it. Don't forget the iconic songs Cry, and Money plus my fave from MIAM, Faded. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 16:26)

Re: Videos (81,368) (81,371) by Bill from the UK Thirsty is about Damizza. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 15:21)

Re: Videos (81,368) (81,370) by Licia from USA Why would Mariah be worried about anything Nick is doing though? The family situation shouldn't be hard for her at all now. I could see if the baby popped up when they first separated, but she had clearly moved on by the time Golden was born. She almost got married to another man while she was still married and she was flirting with a different man when she was about to marry again. It's unbelievable how many people don't find fault in that mess, but are quick to jump him. I'm not saying Nick is innocent nor do I agree with alot of the things he's done, but to be fair lets put all her wrong doings on the table too. They both have done things that had they happened when they first separated, I could see and understand one or the other being hurt, but at this point neither of them should he hurt about anything the other is doing. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 13:43)

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