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Ribbon (108,413) by Jamie from UK I love Ribbon. Radio killer. (Monday 24 March 2025; 13:48) this is a reply to message 108,409

Ribbon (108,409) by Bobby A from United States I think Ribbon is the best song that MC, The-Dream and Tricky Stewart have ever written together. The song is probably a favorite among Dream fans. Plus adding Ludacris on the remix was genius by MC. By the way, I am wondering if Angels Advocate will ever get an official release one day. (Sunday 23 March 2025; 23:40)

Overreacting (108,412) by Zachariah from Croatia My head is spinning from of all these conspiracy theories that I see here. Give a woman some rest. (Monday 24 March 2025; 13:45)

Love letter to MC (108,411) by Edward from USA Beautiful message to MC. (Monday 24 March 2025; 08:22) this is a reply to message 108,408

Love letter to MC (108,408) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End To Mariah, whom I love, cherish and adore (more than some of my own blood relations) and wish, hope and pray will humble yourself and let go of anything holding you back from being happy and at peace, where you have always belonged but for some reason you feel unworthy and don't believe is for you. Mariah, nobody "deserves" or earns love, it's a gift from our creator. Rejecting love is not where it's at. God wants you to be happy. Grief comes and goes in waves, let it happen. Lean into it, move through it. Don't bottle all your struggles up. Your disappointment. Declare yourself free and unburden yourself from the wounds you carry. We all have to mourn our dead. But let's celebrate the living too, why grieve and eulogize loved ones who still draw breath? We'll be okay, we don't really need new music or any of the other things we always bitch about. We care about you. You are not somewhat loved, you are loved, period. Don't martyr yourself for the fandom, the public and strangers that care or know nothing about you. We'll live and we'll be happy because you're genuinely happy. Why won't you choose happy, is it fear? Well that's not of the Lord and you know it. So whatever had you running scared, run towards that. Because faking it until you make it isn't working. It also reads inauthentic and that's not good because even as someone who loves you and means you well, always, I can misread you as someone who doesn't care when I also see that you're trying very hard. Let go of your pride. It's not doing you any favors. Handle your business girl and I'm not talking music or showbusiness. Go off grid if you have to. Be Garbo for a minute or two. Let God lead the way and follow Him. You don't need to go on an exploitation/explanation tour on anyone's primetime tv-couch. Go be with the people who love you, 4 real 4 real. It's time you stop self sabotaging. Reject dysfunction once and for all. Stop rejecting stability in favour of familiarity of chaos and uncertainty. Go where you're loved and accepted wholely and truly. That's what you should keep building on. Love is the only thing that we take with us, given and received, when we leave this earth. Let's not take it for granted and waste time on frivolous things and hollow relationships. Stop feeding the trolls. "4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." 1 Corinthians 13. (Sunday 23 March 2025; 22:27)

Ribbon (108,410) by Edward from USA I love myself some Ribbon. Actually, Mariah was in a better place vocally on E=MC2 and Memoirs than what she was on TEOM. (Monday 24 March 2025; 08:12) this is a reply to message 108,409

Ribbon (108,409) by Bobby A from United States I think Ribbon is the best song that MC, The-Dream and Tricky Stewart have ever written together. The song is probably a favorite among Dream fans. Plus adding Ludacris on the remix was genius by MC. By the way, I am wondering if Angels Advocate will ever get an official release one day. (Sunday 23 March 2025; 23:40)

Ribbon (108,409) by Bobby A from United States I think Ribbon is the best song that MC, The-Dream and Tricky Stewart have ever written together. The song is probably a favorite among Dream fans. Plus adding Ludacris on the remix was genius by MC. By the way, I am wondering if Angels Advocate will ever get an official release one day. (Sunday 23 March 2025; 23:40)

Love letter to MC (108,408) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End To Mariah, whom I love, cherish and adore (more than some of my own blood relations) and wish, hope and pray will humble yourself and let go of anything holding you back from being happy and at peace, where you have always belonged but for some reason you feel unworthy and don't believe is for you. Mariah, nobody "deserves" or earns love, it's a gift from our creator. Rejecting love is not where it's at. God wants you to be happy. Grief comes and goes in waves, let it happen. Lean into it, move through it. Don't bottle all your struggles up. Your disappointment. Declare yourself free and unburden yourself from the wounds you carry. We all have to mourn our dead. But let's celebrate the living too, why grieve and eulogize loved ones who still draw breath? We'll be okay, we don't really need new music or any of the other things we always bitch about. We care about you. You are not somewhat loved, you are loved, period. Don't martyr yourself for the fandom, the public and strangers that care or know nothing about you. We'll live and we'll be happy because you're genuinely happy. Why won't you choose happy, is it fear? Well that's not of the Lord and you know it. So whatever had you running scared, run towards that. Because faking it until you make it isn't working. It also reads inauthentic and that's not good because even as someone who loves you and means you well, always, I can misread you as someone who doesn't care when I also see that you're trying very hard. Let go of your pride. It's not doing you any favors. Handle your business girl and I'm not talking music or showbusiness. Go off grid if you have to. Be Garbo for a minute or two. Let God lead the way and follow Him. You don't need to go on an exploitation/explanation tour on anyone's primetime tv-couch. Go be with the people who love you, 4 real 4 real. It's time you stop self sabotaging. Reject dysfunction once and for all. Stop rejecting stability in favour of familiarity of chaos and uncertainty. Go where you're loved and accepted wholely and truly. That's what you should keep building on. Love is the only thing that we take with us, given and received, when we leave this earth. Let's not take it for granted and waste time on frivolous things and hollow relationships. Stop feeding the trolls. "4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." 1 Corinthians 13. (Sunday 23 March 2025; 22:27)

Just makin' the most of life (108,407) by MusicfanJ from Germany Again on point Jamie. I absolutely agree with your thoughts. "But my main concern is Mariah herself at the moment." Yes, that's also my concern. Someone wrote on this board, she is so rich and famous, she dosen't care about anything. That may be true, but I do care. A lot of other fans/lambs do care. The question is, is she happy and healthy? All the money in the world can't buy it. There are many exsamples. I just hope she's okay. Next week is celebration week. (Sunday 23 March 2025; 16:30) this is a reply to message 108,405

Just makin' the most of life (108,405) by Jamie from UK I'm under no illusions that she will never be as she was. Being nostalgic doesn't mean you're not aware of the present. My concern is that she's now at a point where she's even far removed from that person than she has ever been, and not even musically. I loved Caution, I even loved I Don't, obviously not the video though lol. I'm concerned and rightly so that something isn't right with her right now. Whether it's medical or something else, who knows, but from an outsiders point of view something is off. My criticism only comes from a place of caring about Mariah, I've remained loyal throughout the years, and have enjoyed all her music. My point is that for the general buying public she became to far removed from the Mariah they fell in love with, I'm personally as a fan not saying that her new music isn't good, she's got some amazing tracks later on in her career. But my main concern is Mariah herself at the moment. (Sunday 23 March 2025; 07:45)

It's divas week (108,406) by BFF from United States You're putting a rush on us, Randy. (Sunday 23 March 2025; 12:42) this is a reply to message 108,403

It's divas week (108,403) by Randy from USA Uh-oh, break out the hairspray, sequins, booze. It's divas week. Birthdays: 3/23 Chaka. 3/25 Aretha. 3/26 Diana. 3/27 Mariah. 3/31 Celine. But today we start with our original Dorothy from The Wiz - Stephanie Mills. Now you all say I'm mean, so this week Ima be kind. Did y'all know that she has another talent besides singing? (Saturday 22 March 2025; 23:57)

Just makin' the most of life (108,405) by Jamie from UK I'm under no illusions that she will never be as she was. Being nostalgic doesn't mean you're not aware of the present. My concern is that she's now at a point where she's even far removed from that person than she has ever been, and not even musically. I loved Caution, I even loved I Don't, obviously not the video though lol. I'm concerned and rightly so that something isn't right with her right now. Whether it's medical or something else, who knows, but from an outsiders point of view something is off. My criticism only comes from a place of caring about Mariah, I've remained loyal throughout the years, and have enjoyed all her music. My point is that for the general buying public she became to far removed from the Mariah they fell in love with, I'm personally as a fan not saying that her new music isn't good, she's got some amazing tracks later on in her career. But my main concern is Mariah herself at the moment. (Sunday 23 March 2025; 07:45) this is a reply to message 108,404

Just makin' the most of life (108,404) by Boy from The Netherlands I mean indeed, when artists receive such a specific award, it's usually based on their accomplishments and achievements throughout their career, anyways. I don't think you understand me nor my intentions. That you miss something or wish for her to navigate and present herself as an artist the way she did back in the day is just knowingly wishing for something that will never happen again. In the '90s, she was on a leash, whitewashed and her image was heavily controlled. Now, she's a prisoner of her own set standards and the expected demands of her fanbase. She simply can't and won't live up to those standards anymore. As an eager and ambitious artist, she has plateaued multiple times throughout her career. Like you said, she is relevant now because of the musical legacy she created in the past. A lot of you will probably never admit it but Mariah has been a legacy artist for the past decade or so. Maybe that's where some of the disappointment comes from. Reality is exactly what she presents us. From her Drew Barrymore interview to the two guys she gave an interview. For more than a decade now, she can't walk on her own and wears clothes that make everyone wonder how she even moves or breathes. She has created this world, this cocoon, Mariah World one she probably resents but also feels comfortable and safe in. She's probably frustrated and disappointed, too, because for an artist like Mariah who clearly had a lot of excess, privileges, and label support due to her personal relationship with Tommy it must be a hard pill to swallow that she can't even get a proper push or budget anymore. Her label just wants to profit off her catalog and Christmas shtick. For more than a decade now, she's had a couple of wins for her standards. And in her current situation, she's just trying to enjoy the respect and recognition she gets while she's still here. But just because she talks about lighting or eternal 12 doesn't mean it's over for her or that she needs to stay home. I'm not saying, don't have expectations, I'm just saying at least let them be realistic. "She smiles through a thousand tears and harbors adolescent fears. She dreams of all that she can never be she wades in insecurity and hides herself inside of me." (Sunday 23 March 2025; 01:32)

Just makin' the most of life (108,404) by Boy from The Netherlands I mean indeed, when artists receive such a specific award, it's usually based on their accomplishments and achievements throughout their career, anyways. I don't think you understand me nor my intentions. That you miss something or wish for her to navigate and present herself as an artist the way she did back in the day is just knowingly wishing for something that will never happen again. In the '90s, she was on a leash, whitewashed and her image was heavily controlled. Now, she's a prisoner of her own set standards and the expected demands of her fanbase. She simply can't and won't live up to those standards anymore. As an eager and ambitious artist, she has plateaued multiple times throughout her career. Like you said, she is relevant now because of the musical legacy she created in the past. A lot of you will probably never admit it but Mariah has been a legacy artist for the past decade or so. Maybe that's where some of the disappointment comes from. Reality is exactly what she presents us. From her Drew Barrymore interview to the two guys she gave an interview. For more than a decade now, she can't walk on her own and wears clothes that make everyone wonder how she even moves or breathes. She has created this world, this cocoon, Mariah World one she probably resents but also feels comfortable and safe in. She's probably frustrated and disappointed, too, because for an artist like Mariah who clearly had a lot of excess, privileges, and label support due to her personal relationship with Tommy it must be a hard pill to swallow that she can't even get a proper push or budget anymore. Her label just wants to profit off her catalog and Christmas shtick. For more than a decade now, she's had a couple of wins for her standards. And in her current situation, she's just trying to enjoy the respect and recognition she gets while she's still here. But just because she talks about lighting or eternal 12 doesn't mean it's over for her or that she needs to stay home. I'm not saying, don't have expectations, I'm just saying at least let them be realistic. "She smiles through a thousand tears and harbors adolescent fears. She dreams of all that she can never be she wades in insecurity and hides herself inside of me." (Sunday 23 March 2025; 01:32) this is a reply to message 108,399

Just makin' the most of life (108,399) by Jamie from UK The reason she is still relevant and receiving icon awards is because of her early career, those days influenced everything and everyone. If none of that had happened and she came out as she is now I'm afraid she wouldn't be getting and awards. We're nostalgic because she was amazing then, we lived through it and we miss it. None of us are saying she isn't relevant anymore as a person, but music career wise unfortunately no is buying her new stuff. Even her Christmas mania is based on an early period of her career, and let me guess when that was, oh yes its the time we're all nostalgic about. Mariah is a legend and she's reached icon status but it's not for her current music career, unfortunately it's her past. (Saturday 22 March 2025; 09:36)

It's divas week (108,403) by Randy from USA Uh-oh, break out the hairspray, sequins, booze. It's divas week. Birthdays: 3/23 Chaka. 3/25 Aretha. 3/26 Diana. 3/27 Mariah. 3/31 Celine. But today we start with our original Dorothy from The Wiz - Stephanie Mills. Now you all say I'm mean, so this week Ima be kind. Did y'all know that she has another talent besides singing? (Saturday 22 March 2025; 23:57)

Just makin' the most of life (108,402) by Bobby A from United States Jamie, your post is spot on. Where will MC be in 2026? I believe the nostaglia is going to fade soon without some type of new project. She is going to need to release some type of project next year. Maybe not a new album, but some type of compliation project with something from her vault. MC is a legend who can break the internet with the right complilation and goodies included. I am thinking about something like what Garth Brooks did with Wal-Mart to sell his first ever anthology boxset. I am still in awe of everything she has accomplished in her career. Give me one of her remixes on a new vinyl pressing and I am a very happy queen. (Saturday 22 March 2025; 22:00) this is a reply to message 108,399

Just makin' the most of life (108,399) by Jamie from UK The reason she is still relevant and receiving icon awards is because of her early career, those days influenced everything and everyone. If none of that had happened and she came out as she is now I'm afraid she wouldn't be getting and awards. We're nostalgic because she was amazing then, we lived through it and we miss it. None of us are saying she isn't relevant anymore as a person, but music career wise unfortunately no is buying her new stuff. Even her Christmas mania is based on an early period of her career, and let me guess when that was, oh yes its the time we're all nostalgic about. Mariah is a legend and she's reached icon status but it's not for her current music career, unfortunately it's her past. (Saturday 22 March 2025; 09:36)

Just makin' the most of life (108,401) by Dennis from Miami, FL Jamie, you're 100% spot on. Mariah resents most of the things from her early days. To quote Tommy Mottola about Hero: "The bottom line is that nobody was putting words in her mouth. The song came from her own soul. It just wasn't the direction she wanted to be going in. Her next album, Music Box, was a great mix of styles. But for her, Hero was not even a small piece of that pie. I saw Hero as Mariah's missing piece. This was the magical piece that was going to open up every demographic to her. Mariah wasn't happy about it. But Hero was on her next album. This had to be another example for her of seeing me as being controlling. I really don't think she got it until Hero became a hit in every country of the world. She was just a kid when she wrote that song, but she probably didn't get it until she turned into an adult." I wish she could overcome all those traumas and live on as a free spirit. (Saturday 22 March 2025; 21:18) this is a reply to message 108,399

Just makin' the most of life (108,399) by Jamie from UK The reason she is still relevant and receiving icon awards is because of her early career, those days influenced everything and everyone. If none of that had happened and she came out as she is now I'm afraid she wouldn't be getting and awards. We're nostalgic because she was amazing then, we lived through it and we miss it. None of us are saying she isn't relevant anymore as a person, but music career wise unfortunately no is buying her new stuff. Even her Christmas mania is based on an early period of her career, and let me guess when that was, oh yes its the time we're all nostalgic about. Mariah is a legend and she's reached icon status but it's not for her current music career, unfortunately it's her past. (Saturday 22 March 2025; 09:36)

It only happens to singers (108,400) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia People expect singers to still perform like in their peak era. But at the same time we have different expectations when it comes to other fields like sports, do we expect Michael Jordan to still hit the game in his 50's? Do we expect Mike Tyson to box like in his peak? He even lost the game recently. We appreciate them for what they had contributed. Mariah had played the game and she won. Now she is a legend. We appreciate her legacy. Of course we all know that she can't sing like her peak era. So what? She's a human being. Some singers have it until they died, some just don't. Nevertheless we still value her as one of the pioneers in singing and for her legacy. Just like we appreciate the legacy of Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, or other legends in other fields. (Saturday 22 March 2025; 15:49)

Just makin' the most of life (108,399) by Jamie from UK The reason she is still relevant and receiving icon awards is because of her early career, those days influenced everything and everyone. If none of that had happened and she came out as she is now I'm afraid she wouldn't be getting and awards. We're nostalgic because she was amazing then, we lived through it and we miss it. None of us are saying she isn't relevant anymore as a person, but music career wise unfortunately no is buying her new stuff. Even her Christmas mania is based on an early period of her career, and let me guess when that was, oh yes its the time we're all nostalgic about. Mariah is a legend and she's reached icon status but it's not for her current music career, unfortunately it's her past. (Saturday 22 March 2025; 09:36) this is a reply to message 108,385

Just makin' the most of life (108,385) by Boy from The Netherlands Pfff, you guys are so nostalgic and stuck in the past. What's with this boomer mentality? It's 2025, and you're still rambling about American Idol, Nicki this, Nicki that, Joni Mitchell, Carole King, Jewel something like be for real. Yeah, maybe the average 40+ person would mention them but today's main pop girls are Charli, Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor, Billie, Olivia Rodrigo, etc. And guess what? Mariah is still more relevant than ever. Even Miley Cyrus just gave Mariah her flowers, while Celine Dion (love her though) showed up and got no recognition from Taylor on stage. That's the industry it picks and chooses who it respects. But Mariah? She doesn't need that validation anymore. Billboard literally just named her the #1 pre-2000s female artist of the 21st century, and #12 overall. These aren't just opinions or some delusional fan made resume these are some serious facts. And this whole "Mariah needs to be serious" mentality. You just want Hero Mariah just like Tommy did. But she was never just that girl. She loves the hood, she's camp, she's extra, and she's always been the dramatic woman we saw in Mariah's World. It's wild how so many of you refuse to see the bigger picture Mariah isn't just a pop star, she's an institution in pop culture. She can't reverse her age, physical condition, or mental state, nobody can. Even Beyoncé the queen of perfection isn't selling like she used to and still gets called overrated. Madonna? People call her a grandma on stage. Taylor? Gets dragged for her dancing. The whole "perfect pop star" image is a 90s corporate fantasy. Pop culture, audiences, and marketing have evolved y'all just refuse to evolve with it. And let's talk relevance. Mariah can show up at an award show, turn her head to the left, and it's an instant viral meme. Since the NYE disaster, she's been more relevant than ever. Yeah, people associate her with Christmas, but they also respect the hustle. She's so "irrelevant" that she keeps collecting Icon Awards left and right. And about Mariah being a "ditzy diva who lost track of reality"? I love Wendy Williams, but we all saw how that ended. For someone who supposedly doesn't have it together, Mariah is still living life on her own terms, blowing her money as she pleases, and not under a conservatorship. That alone is a win in my book. And honestly, people need to realize that she's just a 50 year old, half a billion dollar worth rich woman living her best life on yachts cruising the coast of Capri in the winter. She is completely unbothered. She doesn't care about you, me, or whatever is happening online. Her career doesn't define her anymore, it hasn't for a long time. She collects her checks, enjoys her sparkling drinks, and keeps it moving. So why are you stressing yourself out over it? Do I cringe sometimes at the diva act? Sure. Do I wish she had more energy? Maybe. But am I gonna sit here writing an essay about how she supposedly became an "unserious" artist? No. If you're so obsessed with nostalgic Mariah, go watch old performances on YouTube. But free yourself from this toxic outdated way of thinking. She's still here, still winning, and still making history whether you like it or not. (Thursday 20 March 2025; 23:07)

Moderator (108,398) by Shezz from Pk I'm quite confused with this board right now. Forget about the 90s, I miss Caution Mariah. So I get the lambs on this board who don't like what they see now. But I wish they could see that the other lambs who defend current Mariah are showing their love for her just as you all are showing your love for her by demanding excellence from her. I don't think they are all "yass queens", they are just more accepting. And the ones expecting more are not "haters". She is not going to have a sit down and declare a "state of emergency" on her voice and cry about it on tv. You know her better than that. Let her go out on her own terms. Celebrate her little wins like the record she'll hopefully reclaim this Christmas with AIWFC that'll make every lamb proud. I think both sides of the lambily need to be easier on each other in this crazy world we live in today already suffocating with hate for people not like themselves. (Saturday 22 March 2025; 04:45) this is a reply to message 108,397

Moderator (108,397) by Bobby A from United States Lol. We have one already - Eric. Who knew that MC's first televised appearance of 2025 could cause so many different perspectives about the state of her career. MC should have prepared us more about what she dealt with during the recording of Caution during her Genius interview. That was the perfect interview for her to come clean about everything that we definitely know now. Caution wasn't rushed. MC just couldn't do vocally with Caution what she was used to doing in the studio. Ten songs was all she could do in the studio because vocally she just couldn't do more. That is just my perspective this week after coming to the conclusion why there is no new album seven years later. (Saturday 22 March 2025; 01:49)

Moderator (108,397) by Bobby A from United States Lol. We have one already - Eric. Who knew that MC's first televised appearance of 2025 could cause so many different perspectives about the state of her career. MC should have prepared us more about what she dealt with during the recording of Caution during her Genius interview. That was the perfect interview for her to come clean about everything that we definitely know now. Caution wasn't rushed. MC just couldn't do vocally with Caution what she was used to doing in the studio. Ten songs was all she could do in the studio because vocally she just couldn't do more. That is just my perspective this week after coming to the conclusion why there is no new album seven years later. (Saturday 22 March 2025; 01:49) this is a reply to message 108,396

Moderator (108,396) by Steven Berning from USA This board needs a moderator. (Friday 21 March 2025; 20:59)

Moderator (108,396) by Steven Berning from USA This board needs a moderator. (Friday 21 March 2025; 20:59)

Did I click on the JLo message board? (108,395) by Brandon from USA Maybe you should start your own message board where you and the other yass queens can reside in Delulu Land together. We keep it real over here, maybe too real for you. What I will not do is stop expecting the best from MC because she is the best. If you can't take the heat, go find another kitchen sweetie. (Friday 21 March 2025; 14:04) this is a reply to message 108,386

Did I click on the JLo message board? (108,386) by Tonish from Australia Wow, I really could not believe what I was reading in these messages on this message board. [censored] Mariah fans picking Mariah apart with a fine tooth comb, trying to compare her to what she was in the 90's, trying to make Mariah the image you want her to be or think what she should be. [censored] I find it really sad that you feel that Mariah has to be perfect [censored] or that her speech wasn't as good as you wanted it to be. Mariah has accomplished more in her life than 99.9% of people on this planet, she doesn't need to satisfy all your [censored] issues as well. I remember coming to this message board all the time and remember how good and fun it was to chat with the fans and checking out the discography (I see that's gone), Eric (if you still run this site) what happened? [censored] And before you [censored] fans come at me with "I'm just being honest and saying what I think", yeah well sometimes you're unwanted opinion just makes you look like a [censored]. And also no, don't try give me that "I've been a fan since" rubbish either, before you consider yourself a fan, google what the word fanatic means. [censored] (Friday 21 March 2025; 01:42)

Just makin' the most of life (108,393) by MusicfanJ from Germany "Doing stuff on the charts." What do you mean with stuff? The Christmas season with AIWFCIY or the remix with Ariana? Did I miss something, is there a new song on the radio or charts or on streaming? The Rainbow remixes were cool and the song with the female rnb singer Muni Long. But what charts? (Friday 21 March 2025; 12:16) this is a reply to message 108,392

Just makin' the most of life (108,392) by Lee from USA Finally, somebody's getting it.The woman is doing stuff on the charts that even younger artists are struggling to do. I feel that if you want a more demure artist then why not support them? (Friday 21 March 2025; 11:21)

Just makin' the most of life (108,392) by Lee from USA Finally, somebody's getting it.The woman is doing stuff on the charts that even younger artists are struggling to do. I feel that if you want a more demure artist then why not support them? (Friday 21 March 2025; 11:21) this is a reply to message 108,385

Just makin' the most of life (108,385) by Boy from The Netherlands Pfff, you guys are so nostalgic and stuck in the past. What's with this boomer mentality? It's 2025, and you're still rambling about American Idol, Nicki this, Nicki that, Joni Mitchell, Carole King, Jewel something like be for real. Yeah, maybe the average 40+ person would mention them but today's main pop girls are Charli, Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor, Billie, Olivia Rodrigo, etc. And guess what? Mariah is still more relevant than ever. Even Miley Cyrus just gave Mariah her flowers, while Celine Dion (love her though) showed up and got no recognition from Taylor on stage. That's the industry it picks and chooses who it respects. But Mariah? She doesn't need that validation anymore. Billboard literally just named her the #1 pre-2000s female artist of the 21st century, and #12 overall. These aren't just opinions or some delusional fan made resume these are some serious facts. And this whole "Mariah needs to be serious" mentality. You just want Hero Mariah just like Tommy did. But she was never just that girl. She loves the hood, she's camp, she's extra, and she's always been the dramatic woman we saw in Mariah's World. It's wild how so many of you refuse to see the bigger picture Mariah isn't just a pop star, she's an institution in pop culture. She can't reverse her age, physical condition, or mental state, nobody can. Even Beyoncé the queen of perfection isn't selling like she used to and still gets called overrated. Madonna? People call her a grandma on stage. Taylor? Gets dragged for her dancing. The whole "perfect pop star" image is a 90s corporate fantasy. Pop culture, audiences, and marketing have evolved y'all just refuse to evolve with it. And let's talk relevance. Mariah can show up at an award show, turn her head to the left, and it's an instant viral meme. Since the NYE disaster, she's been more relevant than ever. Yeah, people associate her with Christmas, but they also respect the hustle. She's so "irrelevant" that she keeps collecting Icon Awards left and right. And about Mariah being a "ditzy diva who lost track of reality"? I love Wendy Williams, but we all saw how that ended. For someone who supposedly doesn't have it together, Mariah is still living life on her own terms, blowing her money as she pleases, and not under a conservatorship. That alone is a win in my book. And honestly, people need to realize that she's just a 50 year old, half a billion dollar worth rich woman living her best life on yachts cruising the coast of Capri in the winter. She is completely unbothered. She doesn't care about you, me, or whatever is happening online. Her career doesn't define her anymore, it hasn't for a long time. She collects her checks, enjoys her sparkling drinks, and keeps it moving. So why are you stressing yourself out over it? Do I cringe sometimes at the diva act? Sure. Do I wish she had more energy? Maybe. But am I gonna sit here writing an essay about how she supposedly became an "unserious" artist? No. If you're so obsessed with nostalgic Mariah, go watch old performances on YouTube. But free yourself from this toxic outdated way of thinking. She's still here, still winning, and still making history whether you like it or not. (Thursday 20 March 2025; 23:07)

Did I click on the JLo message board? (108,391) by Zachariah from Croatia It is sad. Very sad. (Friday 21 March 2025; 07:45) this is a reply to message 108,389

Did I click on the JLo message board? (108,389) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Very pathetic to insult other fans on this messageboard, just because you don't agree with their views. Me too misses the old, down to earth Mariah. So all these insults are also directed at me. (Friday 21 March 2025; 02:52)

Did I click on the JLo message board? (108,390) by Edward from USA I've always thought diarrhea of the mouth was an urban myth, boy was I wrong. (Friday 21 March 2025; 04:03) this is a reply to message 108,389

Did I click on the JLo message board? (108,389) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Very pathetic to insult other fans on this messageboard, just because you don't agree with their views. Me too misses the old, down to earth Mariah. So all these insults are also directed at me. (Friday 21 March 2025; 02:52)

Did I click on the JLo message board? (108,389) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Very pathetic to insult other fans on this messageboard, just because you don't agree with their views. Me too misses the old, down to earth Mariah. So all these insults are also directed at me. (Friday 21 March 2025; 02:52) this is a reply to message 108,386

Did I click on the JLo message board? (108,386) by Tonish from Australia Wow, I really could not believe what I was reading in these messages on this message board. [censored] Mariah fans picking Mariah apart with a fine tooth comb, trying to compare her to what she was in the 90's, trying to make Mariah the image you want her to be or think what she should be. [censored] I find it really sad that you feel that Mariah has to be perfect [censored] or that her speech wasn't as good as you wanted it to be. Mariah has accomplished more in her life than 99.9% of people on this planet, she doesn't need to satisfy all your [censored] issues as well. I remember coming to this message board all the time and remember how good and fun it was to chat with the fans and checking out the discography (I see that's gone), Eric (if you still run this site) what happened? [censored] And before you [censored] fans come at me with "I'm just being honest and saying what I think", yeah well sometimes you're unwanted opinion just makes you look like a [censored]. And also no, don't try give me that "I've been a fan since" rubbish either, before you consider yourself a fan, google what the word fanatic means. [censored] (Friday 21 March 2025; 01:42)

Just makin' the most of life (108,388) by Bobby A from United States Boy, you have sum up MC's career in one post. It is not that we are stuck in the past, but we merely miss the old MC who gave a damn about giving 100%. MC spoiled us in the beginning with her perfectionist attitude about her career, songs, and performances. I miss that MC. I miss the studio pics. I miss MC working with the current hottest R&B producer. Mike Will Made It, Dev Hynes, and Danja were all in awe what she brought to table during the songwriting sessions. I miss the excitement waiting for MC to reveal new music was dropping on a certain date. I want the MC back who wrote her most playful lyrics of her career in 2005 with ILT. (Friday 21 March 2025; 01:58) this is a reply to message 108,385

Just makin' the most of life (108,385) by Boy from The Netherlands Pfff, you guys are so nostalgic and stuck in the past. What's with this boomer mentality? It's 2025, and you're still rambling about American Idol, Nicki this, Nicki that, Joni Mitchell, Carole King, Jewel something like be for real. Yeah, maybe the average 40+ person would mention them but today's main pop girls are Charli, Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor, Billie, Olivia Rodrigo, etc. And guess what? Mariah is still more relevant than ever. Even Miley Cyrus just gave Mariah her flowers, while Celine Dion (love her though) showed up and got no recognition from Taylor on stage. That's the industry it picks and chooses who it respects. But Mariah? She doesn't need that validation anymore. Billboard literally just named her the #1 pre-2000s female artist of the 21st century, and #12 overall. These aren't just opinions or some delusional fan made resume these are some serious facts. And this whole "Mariah needs to be serious" mentality. You just want Hero Mariah just like Tommy did. But she was never just that girl. She loves the hood, she's camp, she's extra, and she's always been the dramatic woman we saw in Mariah's World. It's wild how so many of you refuse to see the bigger picture Mariah isn't just a pop star, she's an institution in pop culture. She can't reverse her age, physical condition, or mental state, nobody can. Even Beyoncé the queen of perfection isn't selling like she used to and still gets called overrated. Madonna? People call her a grandma on stage. Taylor? Gets dragged for her dancing. The whole "perfect pop star" image is a 90s corporate fantasy. Pop culture, audiences, and marketing have evolved y'all just refuse to evolve with it. And let's talk relevance. Mariah can show up at an award show, turn her head to the left, and it's an instant viral meme. Since the NYE disaster, she's been more relevant than ever. Yeah, people associate her with Christmas, but they also respect the hustle. She's so "irrelevant" that she keeps collecting Icon Awards left and right. And about Mariah being a "ditzy diva who lost track of reality"? I love Wendy Williams, but we all saw how that ended. For someone who supposedly doesn't have it together, Mariah is still living life on her own terms, blowing her money as she pleases, and not under a conservatorship. That alone is a win in my book. And honestly, people need to realize that she's just a 50 year old, half a billion dollar worth rich woman living her best life on yachts cruising the coast of Capri in the winter. She is completely unbothered. She doesn't care about you, me, or whatever is happening online. Her career doesn't define her anymore, it hasn't for a long time. She collects her checks, enjoys her sparkling drinks, and keeps it moving. So why are you stressing yourself out over it? Do I cringe sometimes at the diva act? Sure. Do I wish she had more energy? Maybe. But am I gonna sit here writing an essay about how she supposedly became an "unserious" artist? No. If you're so obsessed with nostalgic Mariah, go watch old performances on YouTube. But free yourself from this toxic outdated way of thinking. She's still here, still winning, and still making history whether you like it or not. (Thursday 20 March 2025; 23:07)

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