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Re: The One (71,241) (71,246) by Licia from USA I have no idea why they never released The One and went with Boy, but I was beyond pissed when they switched. I like Boy, but it was never single worthy. The One's remix (even though it doesn't sound like Mariah on the remix) alone kills Boy and its ten thousand remixes. If they just had to switch there were better songs on the album that they could have used. Don't know if they were trying to take advantage of how popular Cam'ron and his original Boy song was at that time, but it was a sucky move. Lol. (Saturday 14 January 2017; 3:07)

Re: Mel B (71,240) (71,245) by B from USA Turn your eyes away and go home to sleep. (Saturday 14 January 2017; 0:03)

Re: The One (71,241) (71,244) by B from USA I think IDJ thought they could capitalize on the success of the original which didn't happen. They were filming the video when the decision was made which shows how last minute the decision was. I wish someone would ask Mariah about it. She's quoted and sung the I'm scared and I'm nervous part several times which means she knows it's a fan favorite. (Friday 13 January 2017; 23:56)

Re: Mel B (71,240) (71,243) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Andrew is butt hurt that Mel B is being called irrelevant, so of course he has to come here to pour more dump on Mariah. Why so pressed dahlin'? And are you really going to compare her lip syncing whistles at a television studio set on Graham Norton to my suggestion that she "possibly" would whistle over them for "more impact" at a huge place like Times Square? Sir have you been to Times Square and seen how noisy it is? It's not far fetched to assume that she would whistle over them for more impact. Plus what I said was a "suggestion", I don't pretend to pass my opinions as facts like you do. What is your main problem really? There is no doubt she was going to sing the rest of the song completely live because the lead vocals were missing completely, so why are you suddenly attacking her for having the whistles present? As for Mel B, I won't even bother to argue with you on that, she is the most irrelevant Spice Girl and now you can go play with your Spice Girl dolls since you are so upset. Here's to more abusive and hateful messages in 2017 from Andrew, but hey, we love everybody even when they are adults sticking fingers into their noses. (Friday 13 January 2017; 23:33)

Re: Mel B (71,240) (71,242) by Gigi from USA I came across this YouTube video last night and it's one of my favorite televised performances. I know a lot of people don't care for Infinity, but I like it. She does seem to sing this entire song live (whistles and all), but I guess I'll let Andrew be the judge of that. (Friday 13 January 2017; 23:25)

The One (71,241) by Joe from United Kingdom As a lot people have been talking about The One in here recently. I wondered whether anyone knew the reasons The One was dropped as the second single from Charmbracelet in favour of (the awful) Boy I Need You. Always thought it strange that they were filming a music video and half way through they changed their minds. Anyone know reasons why? (Friday 13 January 2017; 22:37)

Mel B (71,240) by Andrew from UK Mariah does not sing over pre-recorded high notes, she just lips them. The suggestion is so [censored] desperate and patently absurd anyone who suggests it has sunk to new depths. Watch "Boy (I Need You)" on Graham Norton's show. Does she sing over them or cringe and try to hide her face when she realises she forgot to move her mouth? Also, does it have to be questioned that Mariah part sings/part lips? This is what she has now been found out for by everyone. Everywhere. It cannot be denied. She has been doing it since 1999, for sure. In fact, since Glitter, you'd be hard pressed to find any song that Mariah has sung through all the way live on television, at least. Anything remotely difficult is lipped. Case in point: WBT. Never the last chorus. Not once. Never. Since it was released. Not once. She smacks a little of a fraudster. I think everything would be forgiven if the songs from the studio were just once - just once - produced live. I think then everyone would turn their eyes away and go home to sleep. So pathetic children may start throwing their Spice Girl dolls out of the pram, but Mel B has a point (I think being a judge on America's Got Talent is a pretty high profile and relevant gig, incidentally): is there any voice still there? Because, and I'm sorry, there is absolutely almost no evidence to the contrary to be found in the last decade. It comes in extremely small bursts in an incredibly restricted range. And that's that. (Friday 13 January 2017; 22:07)

Mariah in London (71,239) by RibbonB from USA So I hear that Mariah is in London right now. Wonder what she is doing. Hoping perhaps she will chat with her old buddy Jasmine. But all of her old friends have generally been silent since Mariah took up with Stellar. I guess we will find out though eventually. (Friday 13 January 2017; 21:52)

Re: Docu-series (71,216) (71,238) by Mike from FL, USA So true, Deedra. If I had to live my life if front of the media, I'd be having "splashes" too. I can count on my fingers and toes all the complaints I have about the current status of Mariah's career, team, etc, but the truth is, none or is truly know what goes on behind closed doors or the reason(s) MC acts as she does. (Friday 13 January 2017; 21:33)

Song streams shot up after failed performance (71,237) by B from USA I agree Mariah's career is far from over but she needs to clean house and I'm sure she's got a confidentialality clause in her contract with Stella and her family members unless she doesn't which is how Stella was able to get her to agree to do a reality series. (Friday 13 January 2017; 19:50)

Re: The One, Shining Through the Rain (71,229) (71,235) by B from USA Mariah's performance of If You Only Knew and Somewhere Over The Rainbow is my favorite. Her performance of The One on the STR special is in my top 5. (Friday 13 January 2017; 19:44)

Re: Billboard and Ed Sheran (71,228) (71,234) by RibbonB from USA The NYE debacle would be a fitting finale for MW though and please let this be the first and last season. Lol. But Ed Sheeran or James Bay could be great song collaborators with Mariah. Both are young, good lyricists and musicians. I still say Brittany Howard would be a great collaborator with M. as well. I like the collaboration she has out with John Legend. Brittany really is the truth. (Friday 13 January 2017; 19:42)

This MW recap (71,233) by RibbonB from USA This is everything. I know where I will get the rest of my recaps for the show since I can't bear to watch it. This guy is hilarious, he even used the Mariah's West World reference in part of his recap. The show is definitely all over the place. (Friday 13 January 2017; 19:32)

ZSM and remembering MC as an artist (71,232) by ZachSingsMariah from USA Hey lambs, for those new to the lambily or those who may have missed it, last April I did a giant tribute concert to Mariah featuring some of her big hits (One Sweet Day, TMB) as well as my personal favorites (including obscure fan faves like Outside, YDKWTD, Breakdown). In this time of fear, when press so often proves in vain for Mariah, I thought it would be fitting to share the link to the show performances once more. Now more than ever, I think we as fans have to remind ourselves why we love this woman and her art. "Zach Sings Mariah" is a reflection of how deeply I relate to the experiences and the narratives of Mariah's life and music. Also, I would really appreciate your support as I move forward as a musician, songwriter, artist in my own right, knowing Mariah has been and will continue to be my greatest inspiration. I have been an avid reader of and contributor to this board since I was 10 years old and I thank you all (especially Eric the webmaster) for continuing this wonderful resource for Mariah fans. Love ya much. (Friday 13 January 2017; 17:43)

Re: Billboard and Ed Sheran (71,228) (71,231) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Case and point. Love Ed. Who knows, Mariah may re-evaluate some things. Like Licia mentioned it's kind of a vicious cycle, the public has a certain perception of a stuck up diva, so Mariah expects the negitave responses and then feels super defensive. (Take recent Ryan Seacrest interview for example.) You can't expect people to drop the term reality show, so the diva thing is perpetuated the more she defends something. (Friday 13 January 2017; 16:52)

Re: Billboard and Ed Sheran (71,226) (71,230) by Mike from FL, USA Nah, the Glitter era was pretty bad. What I mean is people were writing her off left and right. And when Virgin dropped her, many thought it was the end of her career. Not saying she will rebound again as she did with TEOM, but it was def a low point. It's so disheartening because most of us here know she can still sing her ass off when she is prepared and rested. I saw her at Beacon on December 14 this year and although not the vocal powerhouse of the 90s, she was damn good. Joy To The World was breathtaking. (Friday 13 January 2017; 16:46)

Re: The One, Shining Through the Rain (71,222) (71,229) by Mike from FL, USA This is my favorite MC performance, ever. I always loved The One and those notes at the end, just wow. Second would probably be Somewhere Over The Rainbow at the tribute to Patti. (Friday 13 January 2017; 16:40)

Re: Billboard and Ed Sheran (71,223) (71,228) by Licia from USA I'm glad another artist defended her and explained it. Why she couldn't just wing it was definately one of my questions. Now though this whole discussion is like beating a dead horse. Everybody should just move on. It happened. Even if Mariah finally gives a great explanation and does it humbly it won't matter because the general public has already made up their mind that Mariah is a lazy diva who can't sing anymore and she got the humiliation that she deserved. Like you said because of her bad reputation people will always come at her negatively. It also doesn't help that her manager won't shut the h*ll up and continues to add more fuel to the fire with her interviews. Hopefully when Mariah comes out of hiding they will focus on moving forward and not moving backwards by continuing to drag this out. (Friday 13 January 2017; 15:44)

Re: The One, Shining Through the Rain (71,224) (71,227) by Dennis from Underneath the Stars Good point Mishka. (Friday 13 January 2017; 15:32)

Re: Billboard and Ed Sheran (71,223) (71,226) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Exactly. It would have been easier for Mariah to recover if it only weren't for her stuck-up attitude. She doesn't understand that the diva act she puts on display mostly jokingly is not taken as a joke by many people. And now that Stella has enabled such behavior even more and even amplified it thanks to that trashy trainwreck of a show mistakenly named "Mariah's" World. People eventually got fed up and a lot of them think of her NYE performance as some kind of karmic retribution. But then again, the entire world has already moved on from the NYE debacle. Mariah's image, though, has taken its worst beating yet. This time I don't think she can recover as much or as fast as she did before. It's gonna take more than just time. (Friday 13 January 2017; 15:31)

Re: The One, Shining Through the Rain (71,222) (71,225) by Licia from USA There are some parts that were lipped. I probably ignore it because the parts she did sing she sounded great. I absolutely love this particular special. Yes those ending whistles were awesome. I'm still pretty bitter that they didn't release The One as a single. (Friday 13 January 2017; 15:27)

Re: The One, Shining Through the Rain (71,222) (71,224) by Edouard from France The thing we tend to forget is that Mariah comes from the studio world. She's a perfectionnist. in this clip noone can say she can't sing. She pays attention to what she sounds like. She's very much in her head, thinking what it must sound like for a listener. She's like arranging her vocals while singin[g] live. does that make any sense, you knwo what I mean? I think she is so smart and understands music not only as a singer but as a musician as well. (Friday 13 January 2017; 14:54)

Re: Billboard and Ed Sheran (71,215) (71,223) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter It was nice of Ed to defend her, and as a singer and performer he would know and understand her problem. He also explained what many people were questioning that why didn't see just wing it, Ed explained that it would not be in sync with the audio played and that would make it sound even worse so not singing was really her only option. I'm glad they asked Ed this question because his fans are obviously a lot of young people (along with older people), and these young people are usually behind the memes and twitter jokes. So now that they'll hear what Mariah actually suffered from an artist they know and listen to, they'll believe her. I'll say this though, if Mariah's image was a little softer and a little more down to earth, people wouldn't go after her as much. Like the more they think she's full of herself (which she is not, but people don't understand the diva act), the more people try to tear her down. Like when Adele messed up at the Grammy's (was it the Grammy's?) no one dragged her, in fact people sympathized with her (not talking about celebs, but the GP) because people relate to her. I'm not saying Mariah should be like Adele, she doesn't need to, Mariah herself had a very down to earth and vulnerable image before. If only she can bring that out again, people wouldn't attack her as much. (Friday 13 January 2017; 13:48)

The One, Shining Through the Rain (71,222) by Lee from UK In this version of "The One" from "Shining Through the Rain" the audio quality is quite low as someone has tried to capture the mic feed. For me it raises a couple of questions: does Mariah seem to be lip syncing parts and also singing some parts? It is clear that her microphone is on but she is being cautious about which parts she is actually singing. Are the lipped parts filled in later, or is there a vocal backing track constantly being played? Does the audience notice that she is not actually singing some parts? Do they get to hear the backing track? It seems as though the high notes at the end are 100% live and they are beautiful. Perhaps she was saving her vocals for that. If so, it was definitely worth it. (Friday 13 January 2017; 13:44)

Through the Rain acapella (71,221) by Terna from Nigeria On Instagram there's a clip of the final chorus of TTR. You guys need to hear it. Wow. Mariah's voice is massive. I was pleasantly surprised. Now I want the full version. (Friday 13 January 2017; 12:07)

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