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Praying she lets go of the bottle (77,098) by 123 from USA It's the alcohol. This video explains it so clearly. You don't go from barely belting the first two nights to sounding so much better by the 3rd night. She even tells the crowd it's not fair that they're drinking because from the sound of her voice she hasn't had any recently. It could be more than the end of her career if she doesn't stop. I wouldn't care if she quit music as if it meant she would let go of these vices that hinder her health. Praying that she lets go of any vices, is healed of any illnesses, and that isn't helping her towards recovery goes away. (Friday 14 July 2017; 00:10)

Re: Why you mad at Mariah? (77,090) (77,097) by Musti from UK I do hope she recovers. But given how things have been going, a change would be a a big surprise at this stage. I will continue to focus on the music. To be fair I haven't listened to I Don't, Infamous or Infinity since the time they were released. I did like I Don't at first, but eventually it felt like I paid for a gossip article set against music. Not to mention that awful video. Even the music has started to become contaminated. None of it feels genuine. Mariah the person might not inspire me anymore, but I want the music to retain its significance for a lifetime. How sad that we have reached a point where retirement feels like an appropriate option. I'd much rather see her retire than... God forbid. I will be here when new music is released, even though my expectations are at an all-time low. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 23:22)

Re: The truth (77,095) (77,096) by Jose Jaam Andrion from Panama Sadly I have to agree. She needs help now. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 23:07)

The truth (77,095) by Andrew from UK She can't sing. Someone prove me wrong. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 22:11)

Kesha "Praying" (77,094) by SM from Citizen of the World I came across this on Twitter, I found it quite funny, watch the whole video. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 20:52)

The teachings of Mariah (77,093) by Edouard from France - Tolerance - Selfesteem - Selfrespect - Openmindness - Non-jugement - Unity - Spirituality - Letting go - Resilience - Comeback (Thursday 13 July 2017; 20:09)

Re: Mariah on Beat Shazam (77,083) (77,092) by RibbonB from USA It comes on at 8 pm in LA. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 19:23)

Re: OK third show highlights (77,085) (77,091) by Edouard from France Hi, I agree with you. Mariah doesn't just sing. She is a singer in the very classical sense of the word. Her mother is a singer, she's been surrounded by singers her whole life. Mariah's voice is amazing, still. When she's rested, I believe she sounds better that during the Butterfly and Rainbow era. I love her performances then, husky voice, full voice, but you can hear the way she sings is not always healthy. I believe that's why she has learned to develop other parts of her voice so that she doesn't strain it too much. She's that smart with her instrument. The thing is that Mariah is not an entertainer, again in the classical sense of the word. She doesn't "dissociate" herself when she sings. It must be hard to mean every words, emote the right emotion at the right time, when you do a show like Vegas, 3 days a week. You have to be able to go from Vision Of Love (first single ever) to IDWC's misery, to Emotion's fun, to Hero's depth, etc. I believe Mariah has so much on her plate, with her artistry, with the job that is beeing a part of the music business, to her family life with the kids, etc. She's doing what she can with what she's got, as we all do. Respect. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 18:46)

Re: Why you mad at Mariah? (77,089) (77,090) by Edward from USA Completely agree with you. It's frustrating looking back at the way her music and persona used to make me feel when new music was about to drop or a performance was about to take place. I can't describe it, but the excitement in anticipation of Mariah releasing new music was comparable to me only to that of when you're in love and feel those wonderful butterflies in your stomach. I think I'm following your approach, which is to just not let this mess she's become interfere with the wonderful music and performances she graced us with, because this is what's been happening to me. There's always a little bit of hope in my heart that she might do something to turn things around, but I do also have the awful feeling that she'll end up like Michael and Whitney, and then there wouldn't be hope anymore. I wish for her to be there for her children and see them go to college, but there's clearly something very off with Mariah that only the delusional ones refuse to see. I think she should just retire for now, devote herself to her children, and then eventually resurface in a different light. This constant "all in your face everything but good music" Mariah we've been experiencing lately has made a joke out of once was a great brand. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 18:44)

Re: Why you mad at Mariah? (77,081) (77,089) by Musti from UK I think you have missed the point. We are (in capitals) united, in the fact that we don't recognise her anymore, the fact that we cannot believe this is what has become of her career. I haven't posted in a few months, haven't really been checking the message board either. I agree with the everyone's frustrations wholeheartedly. I even agree with you; I get the defensive place you're coming from. But I do hope you soon realise the only thing left to defend is the years of flawless music she has given us. This is why I decided to let go. The mess that she has become had started to get in the way of my connection to the music. I will not let her do that to all those songs that have decorated every corner of my life. I'm sad to say that she is no longer as important to me as her music. Nowhere near. She has become an embarrassment to her own self, to her hard-earned legacy. This woman taking to the stage in those circus outfits with her overfilled hips is not Mariah. Mariah is gone and she is probably never coming back. I've made my peace with it. I'm glad we at least got MIAM. Despite its similarities to Butterfly, it's an amazing album, one that I can look up to as a legend's final masterpiece. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 15:24)

Re: Why you mad at Mariah? (77,081) (77,088) by Sasha from Nomansland Mariah is lucky to have a fan like you. No matter what we write on this messageboard, Mariah is the only one who has the power to save her career and restore her credibility but for now I'm not sure she has the will or the ability. But of course, as you said, there's always the unexpecting. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 13:41)

Re: Why you mad at Mariah? (77,081) (77,087) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I understand your views and I respect them, but saying this board is negative, you should visit some of the other ones. UKMix for example had to be blocked 4-5 times just because of all the mess that went down with people fat shaming her, picking apart her videos by critiquing every note she hits (or misses), then the whole Celine drama. Then other boards, which I have not visited but heard they go really in on Mariah like lipstick alley and this other one that starts with an "A" I forgot. I'd say comparatively this board in particular is more tame since Eric screens the messages and then posts them. There have been many times when he out right didn't approve posts because they have been very disrespectful towards Mariah. Here on this board people may say a little "oh Mariah didn't sound good last night" or "oh she really needs to be more serious" whereas on other boards they'll rip apart every note she missed, then they'll start sharing photos comparing how her body is different from what it was 6 months back, 10 months back and so on. Basically my point it I find it a little surprising when people (and I don't mean you in particular) say that this particular board is rude/ disrespectful/ insensitive/ depressing. We are all concerned because the Mariah we see now is not what she said she is. It's a legitimate reason to worry because we've already seen way too many artist face bad consequences after some concerning situations in their lives. Anyways, I hope you understand my post was meant to defend the board and not attack you. Sorry for the rambling mess, I was just writing on a whim. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 12:32)

Re: OK third show highlights - sweet vocals (77,086) by Sheila from United States She sounds amazing on the third night, thank you darling for posting. I've watched it 3 times and forwarded and posted. Her belts are strong and full. Cute moments. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 12:01)

Re: OK third show highlights (77,082) (77,085) by MusicfanJ from Germany I also think the lambily always expect more, because we've been there for a long time and we know her genius talent more than others. With the voice I always wonder if it's only the "bad treatment". Do you remember the 98 and 99 interviews where she was always steaming and talking about how important rest and the tea with lemon and honey is? I mean she didn't seem like a singer who doesn't take care of her voice, more the opposite. I hope the fans are not the problem for her. I think there's something else that "stops" her inside. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 11:43)

Re: Biggest concern (77,070) (77,084) by Edouard from France Thank you Billy. I couldn't have said it better. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 05:50)

Re: Mariah on Beat Shazam (77,079) (77,083) by B from USA Thanks. Time? (Thursday 13 July 2017; 04:41)

Re: OK third show highlights (77,078) (77,082) by B from USA She's been receiving rave reviews everywhere but here and articles saying her contract should be extended and that she's doing good. There's a disconnect between Mariah and Lambily. We hold her to a different standard because we know what's she capable of. And some are simply wolves pretending to be fans. We've always known Mariah strength is in the studio where she's in her environment. She also suffers from stage fright which is probably magnified by a million times now that her voice isn't as reliable as it always was. She needs to stop drinking and smoking weed. She needs to start taking better care of her voice. She needs a vocal coach and she needs to rehearse if she's going to continue to tour. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 04:39)

Re: Why you mad at Mariah? (77,064) (77,081) by Victor from Costa Rica I may not be helping her. But at least I'm not contributing to making it worse. Have you seen the subjects of the messages in this board? They are all related to concerns, depression, anger, frustration, hard fellings against people in this board, disrespect. I used to enthusiacticly read all the comments posted here, but lately it's kind of difficult feel united under the same feeling or feel identified/closed to most of the lambily. This is a war zone. We become what we think and desire. And most of people here are expecting something beyong what's mean to be. Learn to enjoy and live with what's given at the moment and you will be able to spread your wings and fly. Something grandiouse may happen after that. The unnexpected things are the best ones. I feel Mariah has moved on and accepted that. But feels that the lambily hasn't yet. Probably that's what is frustrating her and turn her off about music. Lambily is never satisfied about anything. There's always a flaw or someone to blame. Sometimes I think we are the main problem and Mariah doesn't know what to do or how to react toward us. It must be exhausting and could be a factor for rejection. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 04:36)

Re: Weight gain (77,056) (77,080) by RibbonB from USA She has never needed the lifts during her shows, they are awkward and silly and dangerous. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 00:49)

Mariah on Beat Shazam (77,079) by RibbonB from USA Her episode airs this week. I look forward to seeding her have her moment. I hope she doesn't look too awkward sitting at the piano though. It airs on Thursday. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 00:30)

OK third show highlights (77,078) by Chicago Lamb from USA Looks as if we've jumped the gun. Its always the same, she needs a show or two to warm up and now she's slaying. Good for her. (Thursday 13 July 2017; 00:12)

Re: I'm so confused - weight gain (77,053) (77,077) by B from USA Did I say anything about her weight, no I did not. I simply stated a fact. Embarrassing pictures of celebs earn photographers more money, everyone knows this. Yes, she's gained some weight but she's far from fat. (Wednesday 12 July 2017; 22:30)

Re: Biggest concern (77,072) (77,076) by B from USA Darren, I agree. I think she should lower the key of a song if she can no longer sing it (in it?) as effortlessly as she did when she recorded it. I think she should rearaange all of her songs, like she did with TGIFY, for her live performances. She took her most forgettable #1 and made it the vocal showcase of her Vegas residency by simply rearranging it. (Wednesday 12 July 2017; 22:23)

Re: Biggest concern (77,066) (77,075) by TJ from Norway The press will love it if she does a bad job in the beginning. Stella thinks that a bad review is better than no review. Haha. And we never hear about her good performances. I guess the professional artist we used to know is gone. Sadly. More sadly is the fact that some fans think it's ok. In fear of confronting/fading the problem. (Wednesday 12 July 2017; 22:00)

Re: Biggest concern (77,069) (77,074) by Lila from United States Ohhhhhh. Right. Now I understand. Silly me. (Wednesday 12 July 2017; 16:34)

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