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Mariah - gay icon (76,209) (76,210) by ADAM from USA
Don't get it twisted. Whatever Mariah is peddling to the gay audience whether it's nail polish or makeup, she's pandering for money. Not authenticity. She has been a sell out and hungry for attention for a long time now. This lifestyle she's subscribed to by way of Stella and co is her downfall. She's not making real music and does not deserve a cent from the gay audience. It's disrespectful to me. I wish she would just either put out good music or just be with her family in private. But she loves the limelight too much and clearly doesn't have any friends not on the payroll to tell her the truth.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 19:34)
Re: Mariah - gay icon (76,205) (76,209) by Alex from United States
Mariah supported gay marriage before it was popular. I remember her doing an interview talking about her guncles. I believe their names were Bert and Ernie or something close to it. She said they were the closest thing to a healthy relationship that she had during her childhood. You also have to remember this was a time when it was cool to use homophobic lyrics in music. i.e. Eminem. I've also seen Mariah celebrate a gay couple on her stage as the one guy proposed to his boyfriend. I also want to mention that I love the fact that Mimi does her best to stay out of politics and I feel like a lot of celebrities exploit the gay fan bases. Mariah is authentic without over doing it and I'm excited to see her pride collection in 5 days.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 18:00)
Re: Mariah - gay icon (76,205) (76,208) by Malcolm from Asia
Her efforts are not really that conscious enough to say that she's a gay icon. She's not like "Oh I will do this for the gay community", I think she's more like "Oh they love it? They can relate to it? Sure." She just embraces it because people said so but I don't see her joining a movement or creating something solely for the LGBTQ community. For sure she'll agree on this because she's to apolitical to categorize herself, "we love everybody" as she always says. But if being a gay icon can mean that we just love the people who loves us back even if they don't have an advocacy for the community, then she is.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 17:37)
Re: Mariah's boozy partying (76,192) (76,207) by Lila from United States
Yes, they're always quite informative and goofy lol.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 17:06)
Re: Curves (76,203) (76,206) by MusicfanJ from Germany
I think to loose weight is the last thing which she should do. There are other "problems". To stay healthy is most important, to fire the Russian clan and find some inner peace is worth more. I agree that clothes should fit, but to name somebody fat is so mean. A singer doesn't need model size (by the way, I hate those skinny girls, looks more ill than alive). But again clothes should fit and to wear "wrong" clothes/sizes isn't a good idea, if you're in the public.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 16:37)
Mariah - gay icon (76,205) by Lee from UK
Mariah is only a gay icon when she chooses to be or when she needs to be. As far as I am aware, she has never attended a pride event or performed at such an event. The only time of which I am aware that she has shown mainstream support for the LGBT community was when she accepted a GLAAD award (for what only the gods knows). Did Mariah ever publicly support same-sex marriage, the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell"? I ask because I don't know. Furthermore, Mariah is very non-political which has always been a clever move because if you're too political you can run this risk of alienating some of your fan base. Mariah wrote the song Outside about being multi-racial but she has also spoken in the past about some of her gay fans also relating to that song for obvious reasons. Does this make her a gay icon? Probably not. However, the gays love a diva.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 14:55)
Re: Gay anthem? Gay icon (76,194) (76,204) by Andrew from UK
Why is Mariah a gay icon? What makes a gay icon? Yes, the majority of her male fans are probably gay because gay people like emotional and pop driven music. Does that make her a gay *icon*? I don't think so. Gay people liked the Spice Girls. Are they gay icons? Far from it. Gay icons that immediately come to mind are Madonna, Lady Gaga, Elton John, et al. Just because a fan happens to be gay and likes Mariah surely doesn't make her a gay icon. And calling someone a gay icon is perhaps a little awkward (for want of a better word) to the straight people that like them.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 14:12)
Re: Curves (76,186) (76,203) by Andrew from UK
Sometimes there's a time for coaching and suggestive help; other times you just have to say it bluntly. Mariah isn't listening to any advice from fans, friends or families alike, it seems. I've stated before there is nothing wrong with being big. If you are naturally big, fine. Some big women are stunning. However, if you are a thin woman who is eating and drinking yourself into oblivion, you *should* be ashamed and you should stop or seek help to stop. No amount of social justice warrior battling will erase what is simply a self-evident truth. If you are damaging yourself, you need to stop or seek help. Mariah is extremely big. It is indicative of her life that she is damaging herself on many levels, physically and professionally. I have extolled the virtue here for many years to stop pussyfooting around Mariah, stop indulging her and tell her the truth. People didn't and her career is all but lost. Time to be blunt. She's fat. She needs to lose weight. She did it in 1999. She did it in 2008. She can do it now. Would suggest, however, that the lights are on, but nobody's been home for a while.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 14:05)
Re: Gay anthem? Gay icon (76,194) (76,202) by B from USA
Outside.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 13:43)
You're mine (eternal) (76,201) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
I have to agree with both Special K, and Mimi L this was a nice song with a great melody that could have heated up on the R&B chart but the cheap video killed the vibe instantly while certain shots were beautiful. Mariah herself came off looking awkward and cheap as hell and it hurts me to say that because I think MC is one beautiful woman. I love the sexy confident Mariah who is not trying so hard to get unnecessary cheap attention. Have a great day my Archives family.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 13:25)
Shining trough the rain (76,200) by ezio_a_da_f from Belgium
Enjoy.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 13:04)
Re: Gay anthem? Gay icon (76,194) (76,199) by ezio_a_da_f from Belgium
Maybe we can vote for the MC gay song.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 12:46)
Re: Gay anthem? Gay icon (76,194) (76,198) by Sheila from United States
I have many gay friends and they all seem to love the We Belong Together dance remixes
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 12:35)
Mariah shading her own voice (76,197) by ezio_a_da_f from Belgium
I wonder if she still is self critic enough these days, like in the past. I hope so.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 12:15)
Re: You're Mine (Eternal) (76,195) (76,196) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
I agree it has that haunting melody and I love the lyrics, the chorus is awesome. And I too think that the song could have done a lot better on the charts if it was promoted nicely and the video was better. I wouldn't want to change anything about the song itself. It's one of the rare song from Mariah's latest list of singles that I loved from the first listen and didn't have to force myself to like it.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 11:13)
Re: You're Mine (Eternal) (76,187) (76,195) by Special K from USA
You're Mine (Eternal) is perfect to me. That song just takes me to a certain place. If Mariah promoted that song more it would have been a bigger hit on the R&B charts. Too bad the video was whack as hell.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 06:02)
Gay anthem? Gay icon (76,194) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Mariah Carey is undoubtably a global gay icon. However, I got to thinking. Does she have a gay anthem (i.e. a Born This Way moment)?
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 04:29)
Go away (76,193) by Lee TS from USA
Take a 10 year break. It saddens me to say this but I almost want to see her fail with the upcoming album and lose it all. The Russian is no good for you woman. This is sad that she's so blinded. I guess we can get a juicier Behind The Music or Lifetime movie when she loses everything. Sigh.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 04:06)
Re: Mariah's boozy partying (76,190) (76,192) by RibbonB from USA
Actually he said he was referring to quitting AGT as well. But he tries hard not to shade Mimi and I am sure to keep peace in order to peacefully see his kids, so quitting IG for a while is smart. He also said on his last rant that he was just there for his kids and basically not playing along with her latest stunt. That's how I understood him. People ignore his vlogs, but he gets a lot off his chest that way it seems.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 03:09)
Re: Question Archives family (76,185) (76,191) by Bill from the UK
I agree about Mariah Carey for the vocals and how unassuming Mariah was then. A great album. Lyrically it has to go to Butterfly. She's never topped that, although Charmbracelet did come close.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 02:09)
Re: Mariah's boozy partying (76,176) (76,190) by Lila from United States
It is odd and I find it hard to think that it's just a coincidence that it coincided with Tonka Toy coming back into the picture. Something definitely happened there. I watched his vlog where he talks about why he quit and the reason that stuck out to me most was him saying he was getting emotional everyday and posting emotional stuff. So maybe there was build up but I think, quite possibly, whatever happened and/or was said that week was the straw that broke the camel's back and instead of taking to posting anything else emotional on there then, or ever, he just quit. And yeah, I also doubt we're going to be getting anymore family red carpet moments for quite a while. Shame. They were so cute and Mariah was actually getting some good press. Now we're back to look at my nipples, thongs, fake boy toy, and watching her overall her embarrass herself. I'm just glad (knock on wood and hopefully I'm not speaking too soon) that Roc and Roe are being publically left out of the fray, so far, this time around.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 02:02)
Re: Melt Away on Waiting to Exhale? (76,169) (76,189) by B from USA
Melt Away is an R&B song and it was written during the same time Babyface was working on the soundtrack. It was only natural that his work on it would seep into his work with Mariah. I hope Mariah covers Why Does It Hurt So Bad on her new album. Such an underrated song. Celine was recently called the queen of the soundtrack sorry but Whitney was and will always be the queen of the soundtrack. Celine contributed one song to Beauty and The Beast, Up Close and Personal, and Titanic. Whitney had three hits off of The Bodyguard soundtrack alone. She also had Waiting to a Exhale and The Preacher's Wife.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 01:39)
Re: Headed for an MJ, Whitney, Prince, George Michael (76,161) (76,188) by RibbonB from USA
Plus nda's are like prenups, they are fine unless people fight them, or ignore them just to be a nuisance or greedy. I am sure Crustella won't have a problem being either of those things when it comes to that. I thought Mimi would have learned not to "crap where she eats" as the saying goes. She keeps those lines blurred, now it's all just one big mess.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 01:38)
Re: You're Mine (Eternal) (76,184) (76,187) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
I love YME. I like the production too. A lot of my friends who are not lambs loved it on the first listen.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 01:30)
Re: Curves (76,171) (76,186) by MC1989 from Spain
I usually enjoy your contributions and your comments with that blend of intelligence, sarcasm and sense of humour, but I think that comment was very unapropiate and disrespectful. I'm really tired of fatphobia. So the woman is fat, and what? I'm tired of people (specially us, men), giving opinions about women's bodies, because what underlies in most cases is sexism and fat-phobia. Women don't need our approval. I know that you didn't say it to offend anyone and probably you haven't got anything against fat people, nor against women. Don't get me wrong. But I think we should be careful when we talk about anyone's body, specially women, because the pressure on them to be perfect, look young, be thin, etc is part of the heteropatriarchy and we should fight against it. So I think we should start avoiding those comments. One thing is to critizise - for instance - Mariah for using photoshop to look skinny and for not accepting her own body and age, and other very different thing is to tell someone to slim down. Above all, let's not forget (although Mariah seems to forget it these days) that she's a singer-songwriter, so she can be as fat as Montserrat Caballe or Aretha Franklin if she wants to. The problem is that she doesn't want to, because - as you stated a long time ago in a conversation about Mariah and Celine's dressing style - she looks for approval, uncounsciously for men's approval, and she and her team use photoshop so heavily to cover her insecurities (wrinkles, body fat etc) derived - again - from heteropatriarchy and sexism.
(Saturday 10 June 2017; 01:16)

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