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Re: Vegas 5th night (65,882) (65,889)
by RibbonB from USA
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Too bad Mimi can't dance. Lol. She looked good though.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 16:27)
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Re: Mariah Carey's HIV+ sister (65,877) (65,888)
by Edward from USA
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Andrew, I never suggested anybody should be marked, cursed or discriminated against for having HIV (all caps) however they got it. Had I thought that way, I wouldn't have brought Alison as a person not to judge by her HIV status. My statement about those who have contracted HIV by accident was to illustrate that not everybody got it just because they knowingly put themselves in risky situations. Remember that many ignorant people still think HIV is a thing that only happens to gay people. As for Alison and her HIV medications, believe me when I tell you this: In the US, especially in New York, anybody who doesn't have a job or has a reported annual income of $16,395 and below is eligible for free Medicaid, so she has access to her medications. I'm pretty sure most likely Alison wouldn't be alive if she weren't taking her medications. Morgan talks about creating a trust for her to cover her basic needs, but supporting Alison financially hasn't guaranteed her quitting her lifestyle. I'm pretty sure when she comes knocking because she really wants it, she'll find the support her needs.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 16:03)
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Re: The Truth (65,874) (65,887)
by THE TRUTH from USA
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How interesting that me speaking about Shawn's [censored] are censored but you get to refer to me as a dick. Anyway in answer to your question: I truly was a great fan of Mariah's prior to 2001. There is so much fantasy and [censored] being perpetrated now that I feel compelled to help keep things real.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 15:54)
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Re: Mariah Carey's HIV+ sister (65,877) (65,886)
by RibbonB from USA
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If you are really interested in a Christian perspective on enabling (which I doubt), here is one. Peace.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 15:45)
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Re: Mariah Carey's HIV+ sister (65,877) (65,885)
by RibbonB from USA
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Most people get privacy and dignity for this subject, there are health privacy laws in effect in the US. It is not always brought up in relation to Magic Johnson, who moved past the salacious headlines, but best believe when he first revealed his status, there were a lot of shook groupies because of his reputation as a player and participant in orgies back in his NBA days. Should groupies be running and getting tested? Yes. Should athletes, rockers, rappers et al. be worried about their actions? Yes. But that doesn't stop people from participating in risky behavior. If M.J. had continued to participate in risky behavior, his status would be constantly posted about as well. A. came out last year making a video plea for help, but she won't stop the actions that put her and others at continued risk. Anyway, the Bible doesn't speak to enabling. M. has offered help and probably still does, but with conditions. A. probably just figures she can get a tabloid paycheck without checking her own risky behavior. Families who do not enable are doing the right thing, addicts often just do what they do best, push for what they want.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 15:28)
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What if what's really happening was (65,884)
by Edouard from France
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That Mariah's siblings simply are blackmailing her. Alison Carey probably only put an ad to create controversy (with no intention to follow through), knowing it would get Mariah's (and her team) attention. Morgan prepared the media to be ready to ask questions with his constant rants at Mariah. They realized they would make more by threatening Mariah to reveal "obscure family secrets" than by selling stories to the media. They clearly aren't that interested. Good thing that Mariah is actually friends with so many people and the TV (generally speaking) loves her. I'm talking about TV hosts, TV producers. She's friends with everybody, or friends with everybody's friends. She's smart. That is a horrible situation. I think Mariah had/has no choice but to get away and avoid them. They seem to be sick people. She saved her own life by creating her own. Sometimes you do have to choose your family.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 15:13)
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Re: M.'s nephew tweets (65,873) (65,883)
by RibbonB from USA
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Morgan is wrong for selling stories and being so fake to put Mariah on blast, then act like he is afraid to come to the States to help his sister A. himself. To orchestrate her making a video plea for help. A. has medical help, they just want to be treated as if they are rich, which they apparently are not. And Martyn A. is noted discussing her status in a 1995 interview, or at least publicly acknowledging it during that interview, claiming she went to prostitution because she couldn't get a job. No one deals with why she went to prostitution with a fairly wealthy father and with all the resources available to her from wealthy relatives, why she won't stop. She is mentally drawn to that profession and to drugs and financial help merely enables her. She just wants what she wants. There is help available to her if she will accept it, but she wants Mariah's attention, or to dim some of the light that shines on Mariah. IMO.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 15:10)
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Re: Vegas 5th night (65,881) (65,882)
by Licia from USA
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I'm just glad that her and JD are cool. I actually prefer this outfit to some of her more questionable stuff. Lol.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 13:38)
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Vegas 5th night (65,881)
by Malcolm from Asia
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So apparently, Mariah mixed up her setlist for the first time with the help of Jermaine. It's not really a great performance based on what I've seen but it's alright, it's refreshing so I love it. I'm not sure if I like the new outfit but I appreciate the effort they made to have something new. I wish she premieres new material on the last day of the leg.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 12:31)
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Family drama comments (65,880)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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So far, most of the readers' comments I have seen regarding this issue lean towards defending Mariah. Even some of her haters have her back on this. I guess that's a good sign that people may not have completely lost faith in her as a person after all.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 11:42)
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Family drama (65,879)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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I rarely post when it comes to Mariah's personal life, especially when it comes to her family and romantic relationships, just out of respect, I guess, since the media already does that in a remarkably awful way. The thing is that unless we really have been there to witness how Mariah deals with these special people in her life, we are only left to speculate. Even so-called "insider" sources aren't reliable. So Alison turned to prostitution once again, maybe out of desperate measures, or maybe because it happens to be one of the few things she knows that worked for her before. On one hand, maybe Mariah stopped (that is, if she really, completely did) supporting her sister because she has realized how much of an enabler she has been in the past for doing so, although maybe she may have taken it a bit too far this time. On the other hand, a lot of people who deal with substance abuse are known to be very good at looking for someone else to blame for the consequences of their own actions, and maybe Alison is one of them. Morgan's actions may also either be partly or fully driven by genuine concern, depending on how opportunistic you think he is. That's a lot of maybes, huh? Exactly.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 11:41)
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Re: Alison HIV status (65,872) (65,878)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I'm so sorry for Mariah. The family "headlines" are really disgusting. It must be the hell to have such relatives. But as another one on this board mentioned I do wonder what's going on with Mariah's mum? Must be very hard for her too. Morgan is envious of Mariah and should be ashamed what he does to her.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 11:37)
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Re: Mariah Carey's HIV+ sister (65,864) (65,877)
by Andrew from UK
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Actually, Martyn, I think people here are showing exactly why the journalists keep labelling Alison as they do. Quite absurd attitudes abound. Not sure if the point of my post was missed or if people are actually revealing quite dark sides in terms of people with HIV. Edward (coming soon, an original post) seems to quite strongly infer that those people who contracted HIV "through no fault of their own" should not be condemned but those who had unprotected sex should. That's dark. Should smokers who develop cancer be treated with less consideration than non-smokers who do? Patently absurd. Talking of condemnation, hot off the press from Australia: "There's a special place in hell reserved for those who sleep around without full disclosure." So, let's tattoo a big "+" on people's genitalia shall we? Hell? I thought it was up to an individual to select their own sexual partners and then practice safe sex once they have done so. Safe to say if you believe in a hell you may not be the person best placed to decide public policy. But let's skip back across the Pacific for some more compassionate conservatism. It's a "public health matter". Dammit where are those symbols on the foreheads? You dont get no privacy or dignity now, honey. Maybe we could put big red plusses on their front doors as was done during the Plague. Silly Alison, trying to "draw up sympathy". Nobody feels sympathy for you, honey. It's quite evident. Which has all kind of made me realise that Alison lives in the United States where there isn't a social health care system, thus she would have to pay for HIV meds which it seems she can't afford and will, thus, die from an Aids related illness, something which is not a pleasant way to go. Such an insignificant amount to Mariah would save her sister's life. Family is still family. You may not like them but you surely love them. Gonna have to reluctantly agree with old Eminem: if Alison doesn't have access to meds Mariah is morally obliged to provide them for sister. Not to do so would be a moral outrage. I'm sure Christianity has teachings on forgiveness, compassion and "crossing the road". I wonder if some recent posters here would.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 11:26)
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Re: Summer songs (65,868) (65,876)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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That's so cool. If you notice, Mariah may very well be the queen of summer ballads.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 11:13)
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Re: Alison HIV status (65,872) (65,875)
by Martyn from England, UK
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall Alison ever mentioning her HIV status in interviews? Not sure where you've gotten that from. And as I said earlier, I think it's fine to mention her status in reference to her alleged crime (i.e. sleeping with people without disclosing it) but there's no need to prefix it to her name every time she is mentioned for sensationalist purposes. It has negative connotations and strengthens the stigma surrounding HIV - one of the many reasons people are too scared to get tested.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 11:01)
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The Truth (65,874)
by Martyn from England, UK
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Genuine question to "The Truth". Why are you even on this board? I, along with many others on this board, am more than happy to point out Mariah's many flaws, but all you ever seem to do is bash and hate on her. You have a picture of Eminem as your avatar, and I don't think I've ever heard you say anything positive about Mariah. Are you even a fan? It just seem s a little strange that you spend so much time here only to spread hate and negativity. I'm not trying to be a dick, just genuinely interested.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 10:54)
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Re: M.'s nephew tweets (65,863) (65,873)
by THE TRUTH from USA
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Shawn is [censored] and [censored]. I've seen Morgan doing 22 clapping pushups for our veterans on his FB page, he doesn't look old to me and he and his gorgeous wife look very happy to me. It's sad to me how the media has to keep talking about Alison's HIV status as if it's a crime to have HIV and her own son apparently does nothing to help his own mother other than to bash his uncle. How is Morgan the bad guy because he tries to shed light on Alison's need for help that Mariah, Pat, and her children choose to not provide?
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 10:20)
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Re: Alison HIV status (65,870) (65,872)
by RibbonB from USA
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I agree. It is actually a public health matter because she is a sex worker and it is a matter of public record already anyway. Alison has been talking about it for decades now, trying to draw up sympathy from the general public and more money from her sister. Nobody is seeking her out, she is seeking out the press with videos and pleas along with her greedy brother. She advertised her services on the web herself, where she can be so easily recognized and she especially mentioned to the arresting officers that she was Mariah's sister. She wants to be the headline and she seems to have no floor.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 8:25)
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Comeback possibilities (65,871)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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If Mariah manages to pull off yet another comeback, I feel like it would be more critical than commercial in nature. It probably be akin to Britney Spears' recent resurgence rather than Beyoncé's much celebrated blockbuster return. Albums just don't sell as much anymore, and even younger artists such as Alicia Keys or newer ones like Ariana struggle to shift units. A decade ago, a mainstream artist selling less than 100K a week would have been considered abysmal. These days, we can have charttoppers that haven't even surpassed 70K in sales. I'd rather settle for critical acclaim. Many great albums in recent years haven't done so well commercially and have gained a cult following due to their superb quality. At this point in Mariah's career, she shouldn't be releasing "smashes" if they're only hits in her eyes (Infinity and Triumphant come to mind). If she doesn't have any potential #1s or top 10s, then maybe she should just be releasing albums as a whole without any preceding/supporting material. These days it's really rare for great LPs to be bestsellers as well. Fortunately for Mariah, she's had her share of those in the past. She said it herself - she wants to have songs that she can be proud of at the end of the day. MIAMTEC was a good warmup albeit with some very obvious weak links. Now it's time to focus on making something that's lean and mean rid of all the dead weight.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 7:08)
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Re: Alison HIV status (65,869) (65,870)
by Todd from Melbourne, Australia
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I agree that normally it shouldn't be relevant to a story, but there's a special place in hell reserved for people that are HIV+ and sleep around without full disclosure. Did she mention it in her ad I wonder?
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 1:11)
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Alison HIV status (65,869)
by Edward from USA
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I've always wondered why when they refer to Alison in the media they have to also bring the fact that she's HIV+ as if her status were some sort of curse or something to be ashamed of. It's like you're marked and should be marginalized. Many people have contracted HIV+ no necessarily because they were being promiscuous or hookers. Many have been born with it, others have gotten it by accident, blood transfusions and such. I do really think they do it to kind of let Mariah know her princess life is not as fairy after all, but that's ridiculous. But this is the world we live in.
(Sunday 4 September 2016; 0:45)
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Summer songs (65,868)
by Musti from UK
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Billboard posted an article listing the Top 10 summer tunes of each year up to 2015. Mariah topped two lists, in 1990 with Vision Of Love and in 2005 with We Belong Together. If I didn't miss anything, Andy Gibb and Katy Perry are the only other singers who were at the top twice. Mariah was also in the Top 10 with I'll Be There, Always Be My Baby and My All. I'm sure Fantasy, Honey and Heartbreaker would've made the lists had they not been released in September/late August. It's a shame Dreamlover didn't make it to the 1993 list, since it reached #1 in September despite being released at the end of July.
(Saturday 3 September 2016; 23:45)
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Re: Article: Mariah Carey and Jennifer Lopez together on stage? (65,835) (65,867)
by 123 from USA
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this_is_qhm. I love how you got MTV together with your post. If I could give your post 100 up posts I would. Mariah has no new music to promote so why do it? MTV and Jennifer would be the only ones to benefit since JLo is promoting that horrible "Ain't Yo Mama" and MTV needs ratings for their failing awards show. Once they took away the focus on music and stopped making shows that the artists could come on, it lost its appeal. They never gave Mariah an award anyway. She only got TRL awards in 2006 for her videos going number one on their show which are voted on by the viewers. Did you see the article celebrating the anniversary of I'm Real? They finally admit that they knew Mariah sampled Firecraker as well and dismissed it in two sentences as a "coincidence" and kept it moving. JLo's team is smart. They finally addressed it as just a mere coincidence and nothing else. I wonder what Mariah's response would be to the way that story was told. JRule having access to Tommy's jet because they needed the song released asap. Why in such a hurry? They admit in the article had it not been for the remix (Mariah's ideas) Jennifer would have suffered a sophomore slump. Things that make you go give a crazy side eye.
(Saturday 3 September 2016; 23:08)
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Packer (65,866)
by B from USA
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Mariah's divorce still isn't final so how would they get married in five days? Would it even be legal?
(Saturday 3 September 2016; 23:01)
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Re: Michael Jackson cover (65,817) (65,865)
by 123 from USA
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Hi B. She mentioned Michael's Butterflies in her Complex interview. Such an underrated song and I'd love for her to cover it. I like your idea.
(Saturday 3 September 2016; 22:44)
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