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Everything but the music (62,643) by Mara from United States I just had to get something off my mind. I noticed lately since MC's new management she has been into everything but new music. She has Vegas, which she was working on before so I won't really count that, but she is doing the SSFT with it possibly continuing in October in Brazil. She has this show on E, greatest hits CD, Hallmark deal, Christmas shows, even her own vodka. Some people have posted on here stating that if we are concerned about some things we cannot be true fans/lambs. I cannot sit here and try and prove what a true fan I am or not. I have been there since day one and I was in 8th grade. I have seen Mariah evolve from the young 19 year old girl to her grand wedding to TM to her face at the Grammy awards the year she was completely robbed and she was wearing her lime dress and white dress and every time her name was announced TM was seen smacking his gum while she sat there as Alanis M won it all and all I could think was how cold he was and how she deserved someone who would be good to her. To her getting the courage to leave him and go through freedom and then Glitter and overcoming that and then to see her finally becoming a mother which I admit I never thought I'd see, to now all of this. So I am sorry if I look to any of you as a non lamb but I am anything but. I am sorry if I feel protective of her and I don't like what I see. Is MC looking like she is having a ball and loving life? Maybe. Who really knows? Is she making money since this new management? Yes. But most everything she is into now, is what Stella is known for too. Stella if you want to get the trust of Mariah's *insert whatever adjective you want* fans then please use your influence to get her to record some new music. This is what she lives for or at least always said she did. It's where she creates her masterpieces. Don't sit there on Instagram with your daughter and whoever else and throw up the birds telling haters to F off. Where is the maturity in that? This is a living legend you represent and please don't attack me that Mariah can't have fun. Of course she could, and I don't want anyone saying you want the Mariah that was under TM. That is farthest from the truth. Butterfly was one of my fav eras seeing her so free. But if Mariah does not care to make new music ok, we don't really know that. But how about the next time you try to talk to her about her next project, you remind her about the music. Sorry if I'm sounding demanding, I don't mean to and would never tell Mariah what to do. I'm talking about a manager that seems to have her in everything but. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 21:53)

Re: I Still Believe (62,594) (62,642) by Mike from FL, USA I def miss this Mariah. Not sure what is going on in her personal or professional life right now, but I hope she gets back to the music and soon. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 19:04)

Free Mariah (62,640) (62,641) by RibbonB from USA Yup. Free Mariah. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 18:42)

Re: I'm back with my two cents (62,627) (62,640) by darrian liu from taiwan Tbh, the only good thing I found about this era is that her voice is sounding better than ever. Other than that I'm quite worried and suspicious. Stella is a questionable manager and someone as smart as Mariah should have known that. Instead of all of these nonsense Mariah should head back in the studio. It does seem like in this era, Mariah's judgment is clouded. Why would she release Infinity along with its horrible remix? The sublime Imperfect didn't even get to be included in MOAIA back then when it has potential to be a big hit and actually is a really good song. Idk about the the James thing or the Nick thing but Stella has definitely made Mariah to focus on the wrong things. She could be working on her next album instead of filming that show. No matter what, Mariah first and foremost is a musician. If Stella hasn't realized that yet, she should be cut from Mariah's team, along with her Russian Kardashian family. Mariah should really go independent. Why bother with labels when you have the resources and the smarts to manage your own career? (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 18:34)

Free Mariah (62,639) by Haiji Toro from USA Ok I might get backlash about this but whatever. I read these posts on this messageboard on a daily base and I actually agree with everyone to an extent. You all make sense but I think coming off a bit wrong. I do agree Mariah is well overdue on winning these awards and recognition but it does seem like these awards coincide with the artist's relevance (music or sympathy lol) or maybe a send off from the industry. Maybe they figure Mariah's not either of those things. Think about it, JLo is always in the news with positive reviews, doing Vegas, give her an award (ratings), Celine is doing Vegas, the audience sympathizes with her, she's adored, give her an award (ratings), Britney is doing Vegas, maybe doing new music, maybe no hope for her musically, who knows, she's finally likeable, first performance at an awards show in a while, give her an award (ratings). Now Mariah, as deserving as always, not making new music, not really likeable, continuously being sabotaged by the industry since Tommy's Sony (powerful company, powerful man), maybe it's a conspiracy, who knows? Research the music industry from the beginning of history. Three major top labels controlling music and the artists (Sony, Warner Bros. and Universal). Then research the fight between Prince and Warner Bros. There's so much more to these stories than what we're made to believe. These companies own TMZ, they already know their targets. Check to see if TMZ ever said anything nice about Prince. Btw, kinda off topic, ever looked at Prince's 1999 album upside down? (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 18:06)

Re: I'm back with my two cents (62,636) (62,638) by Licia from USA I was just trying to make a joke. I honestly didn't know that he had spoken about the meaning behind the tattoo or what TMZ said. I assumed that because they were divorcing he just wanted the other tattoo gone. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 17:14)

Re: I Still Believe (62,594) (62,637) by enwar00 from usa Wow. Seems like a different lifetime and world out there. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 16:43)

Re: I'm back with my two cents (62,633) (62,636) by RibbonB from USA Yes in response to you, but TMZ did say what you said as part of their snarky comments. Nick said everything is important and tells a story. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 16:38)

Stella (62,635) by Butterfly from You can tell from her Instagram she loves luxury. Jets, fancy restaurants, houses, yachts etc. She's [censored] and is fooling Mariah with this fun, loving life, no negativity crap. She's planning her way to the top of the reality show business. Being nice with the E. producers so she can produce a bunch of future shows. She makes me sick. Mariah or shall I say James has a deal with TMZ. His best friend owns the company behind TMZ. This marriage is not going to happen because it was fake from the beginning. James wants to promote his casino and having a lovely superstar joining him at business meetings. Asia, Israel, St Barts will seal the deal. He's struggling in a few country to get his casino approved by the higher powers. Why is Mariah doing this? Money and good PR after the whole Nick mess? Stella is doing everything to get her name out there. TMZ articles always talk about her. Why? She's the one talking to them and wants to be famous like the Jenners/Kardashians. I hope Mariah wakes up before. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 16:36)

Re: I'm back with my two cents (62,623) (62,634) by Amber C from USA On his back he puts "Lord forgive them for they know not what they've done." Rock and Roe are on his back as angels. He intentionally left traces of Mariah in his ink. Ok, so [...] don't believe his whole back is about Mariah then if he wants her off his back, why aren't they divorced yet? (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 16:26)

Re: I'm back with my two cents (62,627) (62,633) by Licia from USA Ribbon was that in response to what I said? I was being funny. I have no idea what the meaning behind his tattoo is. I know I see Jesus, the kids on his back and most of Mariah's name covered. I can't quote something I never heard him or TMZ say. Lol. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 16:24)

Re: My theory on the last year and a half (62,607) (62,632) by Amber C from USA I'm not going to allow quote on quote lambs to try to wash up this belief. The truth is so obvious, I'm not sure why some of you I'll use to the term conspiracy. If [...] think Mariah is [censored] now [...] crazy. Geniousous are never [censored] whole life isn't [censored]. She's [censored] for starters. She has [censored] aswell. That's what we know. I'm not judging, I just want to adress anyone who thinks Mariah is actually aware of what's going on. [...] (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 16:20)

Re: Mariah vs Celine vs Jennifer (62,593) (62,628) by B from USA Jennifer was a promising actress who used her fame to jump on the Latin invasion during the late 90's. She's beautiful and she can dance but she can't sing. She's not an icon of the music industry. She was once a promising inquene but after Maid In Manhattan she made poor choices that derailed her film career. She was the first Latino actress to be paid a millon dollars per film, that is her legacy. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 15:38)

Re: I'm back with my two cents (62,623) (62,627) by RibbonB from USA Quote him right, he said Jesus will never leave me and he didn't want to erase Mariah because she was an important part of his life. TMZ said he got her off his back. I do believe there is a lot of illusion, smoke and mirrors going on with this era, question is who is behind the green curtain. It could be as simple as start a viral moment, or something more sinister. I say let's start a free Mariah hashtag, so she tweets or speaks for herself. Some of this post is real. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 15:11)

Re: Celine Dion vs Mariah (62,602) (62,626) by Gilles from Malta Hey you are right, I've just got the update. Whatever, Jean Jacques Goldman has just changed his mind for a song and not for a whole album as he did. I am just reporting his own words a few years ago from an interview that he did on French radio. My mum is a Jean Jacques Goldman fan, that's why, I am French lol. Anyway, she is not a writer or a musician, that's the point I respect her as a good singer that won a contest as a voice with longetivity (Eurovision) that's it, but she is not a full artist. It is so easy to have everything made and to just sing. So many talented people can do that. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 15:09)

Re: TMZ once again, Packer and negatrons (62,579) (62,625) by B from USA The accident occurred on the set of the #Beautiful remix. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 14:47)

Praying against negative vibe from Stella (62,624) by Sheila from United States Im starting to think Stella and family of wicked step children are trying to use Mariah by giving her a false sense of security. I know we are all iffy about Stella but Mariah has done a beverage promotion before, Mariah also said "never" to reality tv but did American Idol. Are we just being harsh or is Stella evil? Where is the music in all this? (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 14:12)

Re: I'm back with my two cents (62,621) (62,623) by Licia from USA Nothing but he wanted his soon to be ex wife off his back and he wanted Jesus and his children there instead. No conspiracy. Lol. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 13:57)

Re: Videos (62,580) (62,622) by MusicfanJ from Germany This is really so cheap. It's completely embarrassing. I can't stand those people. Stupid. I would have never believed that Mariah would be surrounded with such trashy ones. Trey Lorenz, her Italian friend Mona and many others are worth to spend time with. I even miss Da Brat, she was funny. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 13:50)

Re: I'm back with my two cents (62,604) (62,621) by MusicfanJ from Germany What can you tell about Nick's tatoo? (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 13:29)

Re: I Still Believe (62,594) (62,620) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes Billy you're right. This is the real Mariah so many felt in love with her at this time. And it's because there's no playing a role. She's so sweet and that smile, you see the good heart and the natural beauty. The new videos with Stella, I mean it's like a completely different person. And it has nothing to do with age. I really wonder what happened, is it all because of insecurity? I don't think so. But if you're surrounded with bad people it will affect you. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 13:25)

Re: My theory on the last year and a half (62,607) (62,619) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES Lol calm down with the conspiracy theories. Mariah is not being controlled. She's a grown ass woman and I'm pretty sure she would not let anyone control her after Tommy Motorola [sic]. You guys sound insane. Is she a bit delusional? Well yes, since she released Infinity. But she isn't doing things that she doesn't want to be doing. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 13:03)

BBM Icon Award is to promote Vegas shows (62,618) by Sheila from United States This award is crap. They gave awards to Britney who does not even speak in public anymore and Celine. Both have Vegas shows to promote along with Jennifer Lopez. It's all marketing. Celine did sound excellent and I thought her speech was heartbreaking. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 11:49)

Re: Mariah is cheating (62,568) (62,617) by Mariah from Us I love Mariah Carey but I won't be delusional. She has been getting wasted to the point of having her clothes fall off and she's becoming this completly different person. She's always with Bryan even when she isn't doing business with him. I seen a picture of Mariah wearing a robe at night and Bryan wearing it the next day. It's all very strange and when Andy Cohen tried talking about him she shut the it down real quick. And to be honest I think Stella made a deal with TMZ to get like 4 or 5 nip slips. I've been a lamb for a while now and this just seems like Mariah is in on it. When she was in the car and Stella pulled up her shirt for her, Mariah actually moved her hair out of the way so they can get a good shot of her nip. Sorry but it's my opinion. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 11:26)

radhames from Curacao (62,616) by Giovanni from USA You obviously don't read the board often if you're questioning my loyalty as a fan. I'm one of most positive fans here. But I'm not afraid to give negative opinions about Mariah or any other people. Especially Stella. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 10:17)

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