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Re: Rihanna (59,843) (59,868) by Blue Riding Hood from Outside The only reason it debuted in top 10 was because Billboard changed the weightage of the Hot 100 formula. Under the old one, she would've most likely debuted at #18. (Friday 19 February 2016; 20:05)

Re: Grammys (59,839) (59,867) by Blue Riding Hood from Outside There was a change in policy after Lady Gaga got snubbed for BNA. Meghan's major label debut album, Title was released in January 2015, so she was eligible. (Friday 19 February 2016; 20:03)

Re: Rihrih (59,864) (59,866) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter G, I think what Lee meant was to Stella's daughters Mariah is now a legacy act or a veteran. And he isn't saying it in a disrespectful manner, and I understand what he means, because Stella's daughters are like 11 or 12. They would be more interested in current pop stars like Katy and Beyonce more than Mariah because generally that's what today's generation is into. Of course we can't be sure, but in general, this is the scenario. Diana Ross is a legend, but like in my case, I never really bothered trying out her work or even Madonna's because they were before my time and when I started getting into music there were other people who were popular. That doesn't diminish Diana's contribution to the world, it just means that each generation ends up idolizing stars who are popular during their generation. So if we generalize the Bulochnikov kids, they are more likely to be interested in the Rihannas and the Taylors. I hope I could make you understand. Lately I have not been able to express myself properly haha. (Friday 19 February 2016; 19:42)

Re: Rihanna (59,860) (59,865) by George Golden from UK That would be a killer is she released an uptempo record with Beyonce. This is what I have been saying, she has wasted too much time mocking about. It's time to release a hit record. Throw away the old formular of rappers and release big uptempo records that can't be ignored. (Friday 19 February 2016; 18:08)

Re: Rihrih (59,863) (59,864) by Giovanni from USA No I didn't, which is why I asked. Clearly you have no respect for a legend who paved the way for many artists the same way Mariah has. As for this Brandy girl, "I don't know her". Good day Lee. (Friday 19 February 2016; 16:50)

Re: Rihrih (59,857) (59,863) by Lee TS from USA Yes Miss Ross is fabulous for a throwback. I haven't thought much of her when she used to be popular in 7th grade for being in Brandy's movie Double Platinum. You knew what I meant. (Friday 19 February 2016; 15:47)

Re: Rihrih (59,858) (59,862) by Giovanni from USA Haha, I can't with all those legendary shady responses from the one and only Mariah Carey. I think my favorite has to be the "I don't know her". Classic shade at its best. (Friday 19 February 2016; 15:14)

Re: Rihrih (59,857) (59,861) by Giovanni from USA And why did you feel offended? Diana is a legend and icon. The diva of all divas. (Friday 19 February 2016; 15:04)

Rihanna (59,860) by Musti from UK I'm not too worried about her. I like Rihanna's music but "Work" is simply not a good song. She's #2 on iTunes at the moment but her airplay is at about 34m with small daily gains. There are other strong download and radio songs out there. Even if she does hit #1 it seems this is the only song on her album she can achieve that with. And I completely agree with Lee TS that Mariah would be gravely concerned by Rihanna having another #1. As with every lamb-turned-singer, I'm sure it's Rihanna's dream to top Mariah. This might push Mariah to write hits again. If she does decide to write a hit, let it be something we can dance to. Someone mentioned this earlier, this is partially why Mariah's music isn't popular anymore. It's Like That and Thirst are really the only Mariah songs that have club potential and even they can be a bit slow for clubbing. I don't mean EDM. She can easily write an R&B club banger. Maybe the duet with Beyonce? They can both do with a new #1 single. (Friday 19 February 2016; 14:03)

Re: Top 3 favorite rap collabos (59,851) (59,859) by Bill from the UK Mine would be: 1. Fantasy with ODB - It's obvious, but it lit the fire and I never tire of hearing it. 2. If We - My favourite song from Glitter. Have it on repeat for hours on end sometimes lol. 3. I Still Believe/Pure Imagination - So serene, melodic, inventive, soothing, slick, and soulful. For me this remix far eclipses the original version. It has absolutely nothing in common with the original except the title and for that reason I love it. Not that I don't love the original of course, but it just amazes me how she can produce a completely new song for a remix version. (Friday 19 February 2016; 12:57)

Re: Rihrih (59,857) (59,858) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Lee dahlin' Rihanna can't possibly make history with her 14th #1 because then it has to be a feat no one achieved so far, and Mariah, Elvis and The Beatles have already been there, done that. But yes, I would like Mariah to get asked how she feels about Rihanna being her successor. What I envision is after the interviewer says Rihanna has her 14th #1 now, Mariah will be like "oh that's nice" followed by a painfully fake smile or a "I didn't listen to the song, I am listening to my own music." Then when he asks, "how do you feel about her gaining in on your record especially since she is such a lamb", we might get a "we love everybody come on" (with a teeth out smile simultaneously with a shrug), or a "I don't know her" or the legendary and "nail in the coffin" line "I don't think she has anything to do with me. My whole thing is singing. Writing songs. I've been doing this my whole life. Singing is first and foremost. It's a God-given talent that I'm grateful for. Her thing is something different." Haha Lord, I can't with Mariah being so quick with these lines. As for Stella's daughter, if Mariah sees what you wrote she will abandon Mishka in Disneyland. (Friday 19 February 2016; 12:55)

Rihrih (59,857) by Lee TS from USA I almost kind of want her to score that elusive 14th #1 single just so it lights up a fire in Mariah's booty. Maybe then she'll feel threatened by this lamb and want to hold on tight to her nearest and dearest #1 babies. Can you imagine during a radio interview, "Rihanna made history when she topped the Billboard Hot 100 with 'Work' and has always cited you as her main influence, did you get a chance to congratulate her?" I'll be living for Mariah's response lol. Remember M, we love everybody and must always stay gracious. Best revenge is your next #1. Sorry haha, being team too much here. But anyways, as hot as Rihanna can be right now even she needed a feature from Drake for her "lead" single. So let's not get on M's case if she decides to feature someone who's hot at the moment, although I do want a lead single that's just her. I do like Rihanna, she has bops and a very unique voice and she definitely stands out. But this Anti era of hers is getting messier by the minute and the Beyhive are living for it. Poor girl. Sidenote, Stella's older daughter had the chance to meet Katy and Beyonce because of Mariah. From the pictures and in my mind, those divas are what Stella's daughter see as stars and would get star-struck by. I remember not long ago on this board someone compared M to being like a Diana Ross for this generation. I was offended then but I understood. To Stella's daughter, again in my mind, she might see M as a Miss Ross. I can totally imagine Stella saying to her, "Mariah is a living legend and a star." With her daugther responding, "Yeah, back in your day." I mean, Stella's girls didn't even experience the impact of WBT. Sorry for the tangent. (Friday 19 February 2016; 10:57)

Rihanna - Mariah (59,856) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter While Rihanna is no where near Mariah as a genuine artist (singer, songwriter, producer) what is sad is that if she does overtake Mariah, the headlines will be "Rihanna dethrones Mariah". All over. Mariah's 18 #1's is one of her bigger accomplishments and the fact that she has held this title for so long is a strong feat. She uses her 18 #1's and her biggest selling female artist label for promos everywhere. Yes, records are meant to be broken, but if someone takes down Mariah, I would rather have it be someone who is at least somewhat of a genuine artist, like maybe Adele. Yes, Mariah has nothing to prove to anyone but her commercial success is something that non-lambs know about and if people start taking over that too then the non-lambs will again have more ammo against her (along with the usual "she can't sing anymore", "when was the last time she had a hit?", "Mariah has passed by her sell date"). And all those. My main point is I love Mariah and I would want her successor to be someone who at least has some credibility as a genuine artist. Not a manufactured pop star. However I do not in any way support the thing I have been seeing floating around in this board talking about how she doesn't write good music anymore. That's bullshit. She had plenty of good songs, and a lot of them are not only radio friendly but also had potential to be hits. The only thing that is stopping her is her team's (or maybe her own) laziness/unwillingness to roll out a proper promo. Like dammit Mariah, roll out a fudging parade when you release something, let the world know. You have got to work on the promo. Everyone now has a small attention span so she can't just expect her name to do all the work, even current top artists are having to go to extreme promos to get their material heard. I am not saying twerk in a thong, but can we at least get you on some darn talk shows and have ads and skits and worldwide promo? Most people didn't even know MIAM exists because well we know why. (Friday 19 February 2016; 10:39)

Triumphant (59,855) by Giovanni from USA I'm sorry but I'm going to have to defend this song. I love it. It's uplifting, empowering and Mariah's voice sounds so damn gorgeous. But Rick Ross completely ruined it for me. I think if it had been a solo or had Mariah written more lyrics for herself it could have been more successful. I also enjoy the video very much. (Friday 19 February 2016; 5:42)

Re: The emancipation of RiRi (59,847) (59,854) by Giovanni from USA I'd hardly call Rihanna's new album an "emancipation". I mean she had to get Samsung to help her go platinum, and there's only one or two good songs on the album. (Friday 19 February 2016; 5:28)

Re: Never forget you (59,831) (59,853) by Giovanni from USA Exactly how I feel. Ballads seem to be what's current as of now. Mariah could definitely pull off ballads again like the good old days. Especially with a featured artist like John Legend or Sam Smith. (Friday 19 February 2016; 5:20)

Re: The emancipation of RiRi (59,847) (59,852) by Tevin from USA Well what ever chart toppings machine Riri has Mariah needs to snatch it back from her. In the words of Sir Paul McCartney "we are slipping guys we need another hit, more number ones". Please Mariah come out with a catchy uptempo summer jam. Also Andrew I do agree with you about Mariah constantly singing greatest hits. With so many top ten songs not only number ones I always wondered why she doesn't switch it up and sing other songs, even back in the 90's other than singing a couple songs from her new album she started turning into a greatest hits singer, at least after the Daydream concerts. (Friday 19 February 2016; 4:52)

Top 3 favorite rap collabos (59,851) by Ardis Logic from Earth I know a lot of people don't like when MC works with rappers, but sometimes it turns out really good. My top 3 favorites in no particular order would be: 1. Cruise Control - with Damian "Gong" Marley. 2. Don't Stop (Funkin' 4 Jamaica) - with Mystical. I love that music video by the way with the 3 Mariah's. 3. Boy (I Need You) - with Cameron. Another killer video super cool and futuristic. (Friday 19 February 2016; 4:01)

Re: The emancipation of RiRi (59,847) (59,850) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA Here are the facts. Mariah has been in the music industry for 26 years and has 14 studio albums including Glitter. Rihanna has been in the industry for 10 years and for a very sad reason already has 8 studio albums released. Mariah has 18 number one hits all as lead, 17 self penned and produced. Rihanna has 13 number one hits, 10 as lead and 3 as featured act. Rihanna has written and produced zero of her number ones. Sad girl, she needs 15-30 people to write 1 song and Mariah does not. Mariah has released 62 official singles to date in just 25 years and Rihanna has officially released 58 singles to date. Rihanna has sold 150 million singles and 30-40 million albums worldwide. Mariah has sold over 200 million albums and over 75-100 million physical/digital singles worldwide. In other words cling to Rihanna all you want to drag Mariah but Rihanna is a lesser to Mariah Carey and Beyonce because she has to work 3 times harder to produce and try to match what Mariah has already done. The keyword here is try idiot. Rihanna is not a complete artist. All she is known for is singles and maybe a tour that sells well but still sells way less than everyone else. Andrew you are the darkest and most fake human being I have ever seen or heard about. Aren't you in your mid 30s or 40s? Your mid life crisis must be a pain. I will send some herbal tea your way and pray that you find a hobby to occupy your useless time. I heard they have a job opening at the National Enquirer. I will put a job request in on your behalf. Celebrate on that instead of fake loving Rihanna for personal agenda towards Mariah. (Friday 19 February 2016; 3:59)

Re: My All clip Valentines Day 2016 (59,811) (59,849) by 123 from USA You've proved my point about being a troll. You try to twist my words around. I was referring to the first chorus of My All that you are always crying about, not her lipping in general, but you knew that already. You and anyone else would be lucky to get Vegas vocals if she was singing the way she did on Valentine's day. But of course nothing is impressive to you. That's your platform. Im sure you probably could hit those notes, but do you sound any good lol? I wouldn't care to watch your video if you paid me. I have an idea for you, how about you and our friend sell your tickets, meet up at that bar you work at, and complain all you want about her. No one wants negative after negative post, I feel sorry for anyone who lives everyday talking about the negative, sounds like a sad existence. Can't say I live in Dreamville, but I certainly don't live in the Negative Zone. (Friday 19 February 2016; 2:20)

The emancipation of RiRi (59,847) by Andrew from UK Rihanna has a big fan base. She hasn't altered anything in years. Nobody makes fun of her. Her machine is crafted to bang out popular chart hits. Don't cry foul when she surpasses Mariah with more No. 1's. Mariah has far and away more talent. If Mariah is "writing the songs she wants for the fans" blah blah and doing no promotion for anything, that's her business (although still playing greatest hits concerts over the world constantly). Rihanna is successful. It's not her fault Mariah all but gave up and self-indulged. Funny how Mariah's accomplishments are heralded but if Rihanna gets number ones it's less deserved. I must stress that I believe, as most do, Mariah to be on a different level. But she have up with this Memoirs/ Triumphant/ YM(E)/ Kitchen Window nonsense. Someone recently posted she hasn't written anything good in years. I think this thread is prominent in that argument. In saying that, the previous threads about writing summer tunes, or an old school title signature to the Mariah formula, something upbeat, filters in here. When I said "eg back to her day job" I meant it. About time she wrote something everybody can get into. Black or white. (Friday 19 February 2016; 1:03)

Vegas for a long time Irish Lamb (59,846) by Dav from Ireland Hey Lambs. My husband, as a wedding present, has sent me from Ireland, to Las Vegas for the weekend to see Mariah. I'm a huge fan. For over 20 years. She's never had a concert in Ireland, so it's my first time seeing her live. I cannot believe this is happening. I'm packing my bag right now. Will catch the show, Saturday night. 20th of February, front row. (Thursday 18 February 2016; 23:47)

Re: Rihanna (59,843) (59,845) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I totally get what you are saying. For me, even if Rihanna broke a record it wouldn't change anything Mariah has accomplished. Namely because things have changed so much in the industry it's like how can you even make a comparison between Mariah's journey and hers? I don't mean it as a dig in any way either. I don't mind a few of her songs, but I'm not a "fan". I just mean things are so different right now, even the way "Work" is charting. (Thursday 18 February 2016; 21:03)

Melonie Daniels (59,844) by Jenny from South Africa Melonie went to see Mariah's Vegas show and posted a picture of her with Mariah on her instagram. She wrote that Mariah's always so sweet and she has a great body of work. It was a very sweet message and Mariah looked beautiful in the picture. (Thursday 18 February 2016; 20:19)

Rihanna (59,843) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Whether Rihanna deserves her #1's or not is an argument I will keep for another day (in case any one is wondering, I am not a big fan of RiRi). But my main point when I posted about her being in the top 5 was directed at a post I saw a while back (which was probably a response to my own post) by a member of the board (and I can't honestly remember who it was) but they said how Rihanna's album will flop and she will never do good on the charts again and I talked about how we cannot simply rule out Rihanna because she is still at her prime and she is still young. But the member went on to talk about how it is impossible for Rihanna to come back up. So now Rihanna is in top 5 with a single she didn't even promote much and like Lee said, the video isn't out yet. I was talking about Rihanna at that time because I was saying how I wouldn't want someone like her to overtake Mariah and the other party was really sure about how Rihanna won't even crack the top 10. She debuted right into the top 10. She has a big fan base. (Thursday 18 February 2016; 19:14)

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