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Wolves in sheep clothing (53,035) by Seth M from South Africa I sometimes believe that there are people on this board who come here pretending to be lambs. A true fan will never judge MC. Some of you are making suggestions as if you are music critics and trained professionals. If you have such suggestions, then go and record your own album and see if you can attain even half the success that MC has. Just give her a break please. Baby1989 has the audacity to say that she is cheating. Obviously, you don't realize the stress that she will encounter if she sings all the songs live. I said let Jamaica go. The rest of the world has moved on but it seems that you are stuck in the past languishing in negativity. Live in the present and the real music critics have given very positive reviews for her Vegas performance. You are not a music journalists so take your negative comments and shove it. There is also an idot who said that the show looks like a circus. Obviously this person does not know what a class act entails and what Vegas performance standards are. Visually, this has been her best production and the joke is on the clown who thinks that it looks like a circus. Stop criticizing and just enjoy her current success. If you think that she cannot sing anymore then go be a J.Lo fan and leave Mariah alone. You cannot expect someone who put out albums year after year and who use her voice to sing for 25 years to sound exactly the same now. At least she is still recording and performing as an artist unlike others. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 22:52)

MC and S&M (53,034) by Ardis Logic from Earth I literally laughed out loud when I heard about a fan being handcuffed during "Touch My Body". That is hilarious. He got his moneys worth, that's for sure. MC looks stunning and I love the outfits. Looks like a great show. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 22:45)

Thank you for the soundcloud audio (53,033) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada It was nice of you to share it here. I really enjoyed it with my hot coca this morning. Thanks for the shoutout too, Baby. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 22:43)

Slayosity (53,032) by Marissa from USA Thanks Adena for the recording. MC slayed (caps) the Love Takes Time and I Don't Wanna Cry performances especially. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 22:36)

Webmaster (53,031) by MC1989 from Spain Did I disrespect you? Did I disrespect Mariah? Then why do you insult me by saying I have mental problems? You clearly didn't read well my post. Tell me when did I use the word "hate" or when did I say I didn't like anything Mariah does. By the way no one's saying Mariah should sound like back in the 90's, if people complain is because they want something real and I complain about the lipsynching abuse. [Webmaster: Yes, you did disrepect Mariah, you called her a cheater. If that isn't clear to you, than indeed you have some personal issues.] (Thursday 7 May 2015; 22:31)

Was sat at the front for opening night... haters leave (53,030) by John john from UK I'm not bothering to read most reviews or comments on here today. This is because rather than sit and listen to recordings or snippets on YouTube, I got my arse down to Vegas to support Mariah. I travelled from the UK. I can tell you that 95% of the show was live. She sounded amazing. The audience was loving it. Everyone left with a smile and how much they'd enjoyed the show. The stage was beautiful and Mariah looked great. I am glad she hasn't been pressured to really slim down. She's not in her 30's anymore and has 2 kids. She looked great. Best costume was the Honey segment. It was pretty funny too, to see her come out on a jet ski. Vocally I think Mariah was spot on. She really tried and you could see her absorbing the band and taking her time with it. Hero was an especially awesome moment. I will give a better review when I'm back next week (to whom may care) but until then I have to get married here and 2 more Mariah shows to go. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 22:22)

"Oh, that's nice" (53,029) by Billy from Greece Ouch. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 22:21)

Las Vegas opening show (53,028) by Gary from United Kingdom Ok so this is my first ever post. I am a massive MC fan but I'm not sure Vegas is going to benefit her after watching the clips available of the first show. She needs to accept and admit that she simply cannot sing exactly like she did 20-25 years ago. There were some great moments and she can clearly still sing many other singers under the table but there is a lot of exposure to the decline in her vocal dexterity, ability to perform runs etc. She seems to be able to use the whistle register pretty well but her voice cannot handle the old songs to the same degree. This is to be expected in some singers with age I guess, but then other singers like Cher for example seem to have still maintained their voice. Maybe it will improve as she "gets into her shows" but I'm worried as she is still very much inconsistent and avoids some of the big belts that she was known for. It's hard for me to critique her because I still think she is legendary and has an amazing out of this world voice but I do feel she is a bit delusional in the fact that she believes she can hit every note like she used to. As you can see from my avatar my fav song is her cover of IWTKWLI, let's hope she will get even better as the shows go on. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 22:12)

Don't judge (53,027) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Please don't judge fans like MC1989 from Spain, instead pity him. Imagine studying a singer for the last 20 years and all you can do is hate almost everything she does. Isn't that just sad? Also pity his family, because they have to live with someone who clearly has some personal issues. I hope he will get some help soon, before it's too late. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 21:49)

Mariah will never win (53,026) by Cgee54 from Usa Do I think Mariah voice was perfect yesterday? No. Do I think she can do better? Yes. Many of you guys are suggesting that she should rework all her old songs with different arrangements and lower the key, which I'm for it. However, if you put yourself in someone else's shoes, someone who is not a Mariah fan. Do you think you'll buy that? If general public go see Mariah in concert is because they expect to hear the songs and the notes the way she sang them on record. Look at TMZ, just because she hit the whistle notes almost exactly like did in the 90s, she's a beast and she is killing ect. Let face it, Mariah is becoming a victim of her own self. There's no win situation for her, if she lowers the key she lost it, if she sings raspy she lost it, if she rearranges the songs she lost it. I'm just glad she still has a voice left inside her after all these years of singing and constant bickering. This is nothing new, she has always been criticized about her voice. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 21:46)

Vegas / vocals / delusion (53,025) by Jake from New Zealand First off, I think she did fine. LTT, IDWC and TGIFY were the highlights. Dreamlover and Vision Of Love were messes. The rest was okay, except for Fantasy, which she yet again lipped. But this is only the first show. She still has a lot of time to improve (like she did on the last tour and on the Beacon Theatre shows). I hope she keeps practicing (especially on VOL, because it was cringe worthy to be honest). Furthermore, I think it's stupid to expect her to sound like she did in the 90's. Who sounds the same after more than 20 years? I understand people wanting her best, but some people are just straight up delusional. The only thing I hated was the costumes, which looked super cheap. I also hope she changes them in the future. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 21:42)

It's impossible to please lambs (53,024) by Ty from USA I sometimes read this forum and think poor Mimi has worst fans ever. You don't buy her music to get her back to number 1 and complain about every performance and song. I'm looking forward to the show and enjoying whatever she brings. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 21:07)

The show looks amazing (53,023) by Nick from USA I love all the nostalgia. Especially the Honey ensamble, I think she sounded fine. We all need to accept that she will never have the same voice she had back in 1990, she still sounds great and better than every other pop girl out there (except for Britney). (Thursday 7 May 2015; 21:04)

Thank you Adena / #1 To Infinity full audio on SoundCloud (53,016) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End For recording the whole show. It's a wonderful listen as the quality is very good. I hope you'll find the time to give us feedback about your personal experience while it's still fresh in your mind. Also shout out to Deedree. And B, tag you're it. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 20:52)

I simply don't like cheating (53,015) by MC1989 from Spain I defended Mariah many times and I still think that she has a good voice when she uses it propperly. I can understand that singing those difficult songs 100% live for 2 hours is nearly impossible, but to use pre-recorded vocals in nearly each song is too much. That's called cheating. All those good reviews that you mention are written by people who haven't "studied" Mariah as much as I've been doing for nearly two decades. Yesterday she didn't hit a single live whistle note. She didn't sound comfortable even during the "easy" parts. She was struggeling most of the time. I'm not one of those who say she can't sing live anymore, I hope she does better in her next concert, but listen, there's no need of pretending to be one of the greatest voices, she is a legend, so she should move on and stop trying desperately to belt and recording songs that she can't sing 100% live. I love Mariah, but for God's sake, she did Fantasy 100% playback and you tell me not to mention the Jamaica incident? This is not about resting her voice (which of course is important), it isn't about having a bad day (we can all have many bad days). It's about being honest and facing her current voice. She can start by re-adapting all of her classics as she did with TGIFY, amazing idea. She could work regularly with a vocal coach rehearse more and more instead of lying on the beach in the Bahamas weeks before the show. Lipsynching that much will ruin her reputation as a good singer and I want her to succeed. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 20:52)

Wow (53,014) by Abraham from USA Not one thumbs up for the Webmaster's post. I guess a lot thought the show was bad. If you really think that you can sing "Vision of love" better MC1989, post a video and let us be the judge. Until then have a seat girlfriend. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 20:45)

I love Mariah but (53,013) by Gilles from Malta First I want to say that I am not a hater, I love Mariah. I just do not know her as a person, so I do not judge her life or giving advice or predicting. I've just lost the connection as we said, not long time ago the identification. I know that she has a beautiful voice and she still has it. I support her work as a gifted artist who writes, produces, co produces and sings. As a fan (not a lamb) I would say it is like living in a illusion. The concert is like a circus (but the entertainment is very nice). I am not one of those who like to be fooled between playback, pre recorded and real raw voice (but I am conscious that every famous artists does it). I would prefer paying for a real concert and not for a mirage. I am not stuck about the old Mariah, but I expect for something real, and to be real she can not perform 2 hours songs like in the past, this is reality. I will always buy her work because I know in some perfect condition that she can be what she was and is. But the concert in Vegas is a big Joke. "You've gotta to be real" MC like the song. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 20:40)

TGIFY rework and voice (53,012) by Jono from USA This turned out to be the surprise of the night. TGIFY is actually my least favorite of the #1s, but the smoky stripped version she did was gorgeous. As famed as Mariah is for her power ballads, I think if she went in the low key direction it would be good for not only maintaining her voice but also her performances. She sounded great last night, better than she has in a while, but it's obvious to everyone that she won't replicate her 90s voice. And I've accepted that. She can't keep up with the ultimate standards she set, so there's no point in chasing that and straining. It's time that we all, Mariah included, accept that those 90s recordings were a moment in time. She has countless performances to preserve that legacy. Those bombastic high notes are signature Mariah and always will be, no one can take that away. Moving forwards, instead of looking back at the prime vocal years, she can work with what she has to her advantage, because then she won't suffer from the constant comparisons. She still has a solid voice with the right song and arrangement. As proven by the TGIFY remake, her current voice can still sound like liquid gold. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 20:00)

LTT / IDWC and butterfly dress (53,011) by Ethan from United States I hope she will sing those two songs whole instead of cutting out the second verse. They are the ultimate ballads and early #1s. I don't care if she just sings a snippet of TGIFY, which she did for her first show. For those that went to the show, did it show a video montage of her life/#1 hits before the curtain raised? I'd love to see similar to that. I went to see Celine a few years ago and it had a short video of her career and how she traveled the world and I hope Mariah and her team includes something similar that it, just to show the Vegas residents/non old-school fans that she's been around for 25 years plus and the collection of awards she's got. That's all. Out of the outfits, I must say I don't like the last pink one. It looks tacky and unflattering with the shoulder pads. There's one dress (butterfly dress) out there from Givenchy's Fall 2015 collection and when I saw it, I immediately thought of Mariah because there's whole butterfly embroidered in the front of the dress. It's sparkling and I hope she will mix things up in the later shows. It's a hit or miss with her stylists. It seems like she has multiple stylists or something. Here's the link to the dress I'm talking about. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 19:15)

Disappointed (53,010) by B from USA Some of you are never happy. She is clearly singing her ass off. She's getting praised by critics and the media and once again some fans are calling her out claiming she destroying her legacy. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 18:30)

MC1989 from Spain (53,009) by carlos from peru I'm so tired of comments like yours. Using pre-recording vocals or singing over it is not only part of Mariah's shows. Most of singers do that. Celine did it for her shows too. Especially in Mariah's case because she uses a lot of background vocals in all of her songs. Now about her voice, your comment is like it is about an easy thing to do. What are you expecting? It's not like going to a store and pay 100 dollars and say ok now give me back my voice. "Recovering her voice" is not an easy thing after several years of singing and especially in MC's octaves it's obvious her voice is damaged. Get it. Now her voice sounds raspy and stop bringing that stuff again. She's doing her best or what do you think? That she wants to sound like that on purpose? Some people are so selfish, only thinking in what they want but don't think for the other part. It must to be harder for her because its her voice not yours. She feels the frustration, not you. So stop bringing the drama ok. Take it or leave it. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 18:14)

MC1989 (53,008) by NHYTG from nyc The art of exaggeration. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 17:42)

MC 1989 from Spain (53,005) by Seth M from South Africa It's so sad to see you so sad. I suggest that seeing a shrink can do you wonders to relieve your sadness. If you say that you can sing higher than MC, then go write, produce and record 18 number 1 hits and then talk. Mariah is human and it is natural for her to take care of her voice by using support systems. She is not a robot and she has been doing great in Vegas. What is so sad is the fact that you keep on mentioning the past negatively incidents such as Jamaica and Rockefellar. Live in the present and the world has moved on from those negative incidents and are currently enjoying Mariah's success in Vegas. There are many positive reviews so be positive and be grateful that she is still performing. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 17:30)

Nodules (53,004) by cherbette from usa I've always been under the impression that the degradation of Mariah's vocals were due to improper belting technique and nodules. There are so many advances in the surgeries they do on vocal chords for entertainers these days. It's a far cry from when Elton John did it and his voice was never the same around 1987. I think she should do it. There's no reason at her age she shouldn't be able to hit these notes like other veterans. Cyndi Lauper comes to mind. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 17:24)

So sad to see your idol destroying her classics and reputation (53,003) by MC1989 from Spain I was expecting Mariah to recover her voice, I thought that after the Rockefeller performance and Jamaica's playback which became viral, she would stop doing it or at least doing it better. Yes, Love Takes Time and I Don't Wanna Cry sounded good because she re-recorded the bridges and difficult parts of the chorus. It's so sad to see my idol, the one and only Mariah Carey who once was the best voice in the business, not being able to sing just one entire song without doing playback or using a back up track. Vision Of Love was awful, I think I could even sing higher than that and better. Yes, VOL was 100% live and 90% horrible. She lipsynched/used pre-recorded vocals in all of her songs except in VOL and I'll Be There. It hurted me to see Mariah doing such a poor rendition, however I loved the combination with Michael's version and the tribute. She even lipsynched Infinity. All the whistle notes from Emotions, Someday, Love Takes Time and even Infinity were re-recorded vocals. Such a shame to watch Fantasy with her 1995 voice, clearly Mariah knows how to make us laugh. At least she could have recorded a full new version with her current voice. The only song she did very well and 100% live was Thank God I Found You. So sad to see your idol fall. So sad to think that if she could have all this big scenario and dancers and feathers and lights at her prime would have been an amazing show to watch. (Thursday 7 May 2015; 17:01)

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