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A look back at 2023 (104,367)
by Bobby A from United States
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Hello Eric. Thank you for all that you do to keep the board going strong all of these years. I noticed that you were still posting until 9pm Eastern time last night. Usually the last post is 6pm Eastern. Thank you for keeping the hot topic of "We lost #1" going way into the night. It was a fun way to end the night.
And what a year it has been for topics on the board. Can you think about posting on New Year's Eve the top 15 topics of 2023 with the most replies and likes? Just this November and December alone, I know Mariah vs. Brenda, We lost #1, and Emotions formula will make the list. Also, can you post the top posters for 2023? Andrew returned back in August (or was it September?) and tried to take my special guest star status. Lol.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 16:07)
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Oh Santa original vs JHud/Ariana version (104,366)
by jaker20 from US
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What's everyone's opinion on this? It's interesting that the JHud/Ariana collab didn't do much to the song. I personally thought their voices didn't blend so well, and there's no chemistry between them on the video. It wasn't cute or engaging. But we said the same with the AIWFCIY collab with Bieber.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:46)
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We lost the #1 (104,365)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm not so sure. Brenda's team have lined up an aggressive campaign this season and in the coming weeks. Spotify is on Brenda's side. Brenda's team is playing bunch of playlist gamifications this year. She's at the top of some of the biggest playlists on Spotify currently. For example, I just saw that they removed Mariah on that large "Christmas Is Coming" playlist with millions of users, and they just added her yesterday lol. That is just one.
Artists can deal with Spotify for higher playlisting and other algo boosts for lower pay royalty. This is perfectly legal by the way. So Mariah can be at the top in all other streaming platforms. But Spotify is where the geming is on. If Mariah does these she would be criticized lol. That's the problem with being at the top.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:39)
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We lost the #1 (104,363)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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But guys, it is [the] start of December. [If] she doesn't score [a] number one this week, she will do it next week. Trust me.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:31)
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Emotions formula (104,364)
by BFF from United States
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Everything Aretha performed was gospel-influenced because she grew up ensconced in the African-American gospel tradition. She was, I will remind you, the daughter of a prominent minister. "Soul" music would not exist without gospel, blues, rock and jazz. It is a hybrid genre like pop.
You posted tons of strong opinions about "Emotions" as an album. Now others are responding. If you can't handle it, don't post lol.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:07)
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Emotions formula (104,353)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:12)
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We lost the #1 (104,363)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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But guys, it is [the] start of December. [If] she doesn't score [a] number one this week, she will do it next week. Trust me.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:31)
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We lost the #1 (104,362)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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Mariah needs another #1 like she needs a hole in the head. She's done it. Now everyone and their grandmother wants to make Holiday music and see they too can make a solid hit. You're right, let someone else shine too.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:18)
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We lost the #1 (104,362)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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Mariah needs another #1 like she needs a hole in the head. She's done it. Now everyone and their grandmother wants to make Holiday music and see they too can make a solid hit. You're right, let someone else shine too.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:18)
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We lost the #1 (104,359)
by Jamie from UK
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I'm happy with the success she's had with that song already, let someone else have number 1. It's not like it's not been there already. Christmas songs are so competitive these days, but at least Mariah has a song that's considered one of the last classic Christmas songs.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 13:02)
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Emotions formula (104,361)
by Edward from USA
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That's what I call a perfectly executed performance. She made it seem so effortless. I used to shove these types of performances in people's faces . Those were the days.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:03)
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Emotions formula (104,356)
by Jamie from UK
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Exactly Andrew, such a weak song, no emotion, no soul, no body.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)
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We lost the #1 (104,360)
by SM from Citizen of the World
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For the [Billboard Hot] 100. We didn't loose. Final Billboard Global 200 Predictions (chart dated December 9th, 2023) Mariah is #1.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:02)
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We lost the #1 (104,347)
by Pedro from Brazil
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According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)
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We lost the #1 (104,359)
by Jamie from UK
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I'm happy with the success she's had with that song already, let someone else have number 1. It's not like it's not been there already. Christmas songs are so competitive these days, but at least Mariah has a song that's considered one of the last classic Christmas songs.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 13:02)
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We lost the #1 (104,347)
by Pedro from Brazil
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According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)
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Emotions formula (104,358)
by Jamie from UK
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Seems you only like things your way. [You're] usually wrong as seen over and over on this forum. I can't help but think "if it's over" for your opinions.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:59)
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Emotions formula (104,353)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:12)
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If Mariah likes it, then I like it (104,357)
by Bobby A from United States
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She has always praised Stevie Wonder. I have a huge Stevie Wonder collection. Everytime that I hear That Girl, I think of MC.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)
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If Mariah likes it, then I like it (104,352)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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What are some things that some of you have done because you saw Mariah did or liked? I have a few so I'll go first. When Mariah listed Four Christmases as one of her favorite Holiday movies I had to watch it even though I don't care much for Reese Witherspoon or Vince Vaughn. It was an okay movie. Also I bought her AIWFCIY plushie after I saw hers on her mantle or something like that on one of her social media posts. It was so fetch.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:07)
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Emotions formula (104,356)
by Jamie from UK
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Exactly Andrew, such a weak song, no emotion, no soul, no body.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)
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Emotions formula (104,346)
by Andrew from the UK
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Let's remind ourselves what weak certainly does not look like.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:17)
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We lost the #1 (104,355)
by Terna from Nigeria
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She'll be #1 next week, Brenda can settle for number 3.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:59)
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We lost the #1 (104,351)
by Edward from USA
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Billboard will publish the new chart on Monday, but tomorrow we'll know for sure. Brenda is ahead on Spotify but Apple Music is bigger on this side of the pond, and Mariah is ahead on that one. Mariah is also bigger in sales. It's kind of weird, when Mariah re-entered the chart at 17, Brenda was just bubbling under the Hot 100, then she re-entered at 8 and Mariah jumped to number 4. Judging by the pattern, Brenda is gathering steam way faster. I guess we lost this one. Congrats to Brenda.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 04:11)
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Christmas songs (early bird special) (104,354)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Hi Tevin, thanks for your suggested songs by Taylor. I liked them all but "Dear John" is my favourite. I always say I want a jazz album by Mariah which I still do. I think Mariah could also do some country, gospel and retro-soul. She can sing every genre like she never did something else. That's rare.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:29)
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Christmas songs (early bird special) (104,161)
by Tevin from USA
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Dear John, Back to December and Enchanted are three beautiful songs from Taylor's album Speak Now. Give them a listen. It's no Butterfly album but she does have a decent pen game, even if it slightly sub par to Mariah's. Anyway let me know how you like those three songs, they are what made me a Taylor fan.
(Wednesday 22 November 2023; 03:51)
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Emotions formula (104,353)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:12)
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Emotions formula (104,348)
by BFF from United States
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You lost me at "If It's Over" as filler. This is one of the best songs in her catalogue. Aretha did plenty of dark gospel-style breakup songs, see "Chain of Fools", "Think", etc. What a silly criticism of an excellent song.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 01:09)
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If Mariah likes it, then I like it (104,352)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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What are some things that some of you have done because you saw Mariah did or liked? I have a few so I'll go first. When Mariah listed Four Christmases as one of her favorite Holiday movies I had to watch it even though I don't care much for Reese Witherspoon or Vince Vaughn. It was an okay movie. Also I bought her AIWFCIY plushie after I saw hers on her mantle or something like that on one of her social media posts. It was so fetch.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:07)
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We lost the #1 (104,351)
by Edward from USA
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Billboard will publish the new chart on Monday, but tomorrow we'll know for sure. Brenda is ahead on Spotify but Apple Music is bigger on this side of the pond, and Mariah is ahead on that one. Mariah is also bigger in sales. It's kind of weird, when Mariah re-entered the chart at 17, Brenda was just bubbling under the Hot 100, then she re-entered at 8 and Mariah jumped to number 4. Judging by the pattern, Brenda is gathering steam way faster. I guess we lost this one. Congrats to Brenda.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 04:11)
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We lost the #1 (104,350)
by Bobby A from United States
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Wow. We certainly did she this happening two weeks ago. If MC had done some special with AIWFCIY this year like a duet with Kelly Clarkson, she would have had nothing to worry about. I wish she would collaborate with other artists like she used to do. The next four weeks are going to be an intense battle for the top spot. And Tyla, water girl just dropped her new song On and On. She could take the streams away too from both songs by New Year's Eve.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:45)
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We lost the #1 (104,350)
by Bobby A from United States
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Wow. We certainly did she this happening two weeks ago. If MC had done some special with AIWFCIY this year like a duet with Kelly Clarkson, she would have had nothing to worry about. I wish she would collaborate with other artists like she used to do. The next four weeks are going to be an intense battle for the top spot. And Tyla, water girl just dropped her new song On and On. She could take the streams away too from both songs by New Year's Eve.
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We lost the #1 (104,349)
by Edward from USA
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If that's the case, I'm happy for her. Let's not forget it's a prediction, even though they're usually right. We still have Saturday to count.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:26)
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We lost the #1 (104,349)
by Edward from USA
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If that's the case, I'm happy for her. Let's not forget it's a prediction, even though they're usually right. We still have Saturday to count.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:26)
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We lost the #1 (104,347)
by Pedro from Brazil
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According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)
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Emotions formula (104,348)
by BFF from United States
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You lost me at "If It's Over" as filler. This is one of the best songs in her catalogue. Aretha did plenty of dark gospel-style breakup songs, see "Chain of Fools", "Think", etc. What a silly criticism of an excellent song.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 01:09)
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Emotions formula (104,335)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Let's count the fillers on "Emotions" shall we? 1. "And you don't Remember" - I rarely play this song, it just isn't strong enough and is indeed one of her weaker ballads with a high note thrown in just because. 2. "So Blessed" - I personally love this song, but I also recognize it ain't no classic and quite forgettable. Even Mariah herself was like "oh please which so blessed" when the lambs made her pick an absolute favorite in a versus format a few years back. 3. "You're So Cold" - Oh my, what a waste of space a better song would've occupied and it was 5 whole minutes long, hideous. Skipped every single time. 4. "If it's Over" - Another weak ballad with a high note thrown in. This song actually is sort of disjointed, as its feel doesn't match the lyrics. It is a breakup song that sounds Gospel. With the gospel sound, one expects to hear an uplifting lyric or inspiring one, but this is dark. She got it right with "I am free" and "Anytime you need a friend". This record was also kinda what turned the general public off her high notes because the placements came across as "just because", and with such a display on the title track, the rest should've had it toned way down in the background like on "Can't Let Go". The saving grace for this album are her vocals which are top notch capturing just how powerful her instrument is.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:06)
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We lost the #1 (104,347)
by Pedro from Brazil
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According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)
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Emotions formula (104,346)
by Andrew from the UK
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Let's remind ourselves what weak certainly does not look like.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:17)
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by Jamie from UK
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[If it's over] weak. I think not.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:49)
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Emotions formula (104,345)
by Andrew from the UK
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Sure, I'll sit down. Put a cushion under your head though so you're comfortable.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:08)
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by Terna from Nigeria
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"E=MC2 is definitely a better record than The Emancipation of Mimi." I didn't bother reading the rest. Sit down Andrew.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 19:25)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,344)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm responding to your post about you saying "the music industry does not have much control over anything anymore" which is incorrect. And everything you explained contradicted yourself.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:51)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,341)
by Edward from USA
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Being triggered is one thing, but basically sabotaging an artist so they won't be number one is a different monster. Brenda's team's making sure she is promoting, she has a new video, she's giving interviews, she's on Tik Tok, she has an EP with different versions of the song. They are just making sure the song has the best chance at hitting the top spot, it's business. Just like Mariah has been doing it for years.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:51)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,343)
by Edward from USA
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I think Mariah reaches the top next week for such a small margine. Airplay, streaming and sales are all going to blow up from next week forward, it's a tight race, but Mariah is still ahead.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:25)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,339)
by Bobby A from United States
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I understand now. Oh well, it's going to be a victory or a sad day Tuesday.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:47)
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