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Joy To The World (48,552)
by 123 from USA
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She killed the intro. It made me real happy. For the nostalgia.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 23:26)
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R-E-S-P-E-C-T (48,551)
by nikki from usa
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At the end of the day, Mariah's legacy, stats, and talent speaks for itself. The only problem with how people view Mariah is because she doesn't have a decent promo team. For the past 12 years, the only time Mariah is promoted is to push a new career endeavor. Her legacy is never promoted. Or more to the point, she doesn't have a "brand". Beyonce is "independent" and that's her brand. J.Lo thinks she's "real". J.Lo has a great promotional team, but no real talent to back it up. The moves are becoming so calculated that no one is buying it anymore. Shakira is known as a philanthropist and sweetheart for dedicating her life to helping impoverished children in her own country and dedicating herself to causes. Mariah is a beacon of hope for outsiders and dedicated her life long philanthropy to righting wrongs she had seen or experienced growing up. It is her brand, but no one but her lambs know of it. She's promoted as "successful" which doesn't make her relate-able. Her brand would humanize her, she'd receive less flack, and her accomplishments would be more praised because of it. Mariah needs a proper promo campaign that sells her as a person instead of her current song of the moment. Mariah should be Carey-ing her music, not her current song carrying her career. Mariah doesn't need a "new" image, she needs herself truly shown, period.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 22:56)
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Good side/bad side (48,550)
by Marissa from USA
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I wouldn't mind if Mariah genuinely believed that her right side was her best side, but she has said in several interviews that early in her career either someone from her camp or Tommy's told her that her left side was her worst side. She has let that one baseless comment rule her life for the past 24 years. It pains me to see her let some irrelevant fool's opinion continue to haunt her as successful and beautiful as she is from all angles. As you can see in this video, this isn't your typical lighthearted "I look better from this side" reaction. She's literally having a crisis. I just want her to fly above the petty comments and opinions about her and feel secure in the fact that she's a stunning legend who's legacy can't be touched.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 21:15)
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Re: Andrew "Don't act unlikeable or unrelatable" (48,547)
by jaker20 from US
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You hit the nail on the head. I think after TEOM, MC went from cute diva to completely annoying diva. There was a period after that when I thought maybe it was an act, especially after her marriage to Nick. But we're seeing more and more evidence that her success really went into her mind. Now that is a part that only a psychiatrist can reverse and it's not like she'll visit one anytime soon. I thinks she kind of lost her way after her father died, that's when she went all over the place. TEOM was her last attempt and it was all phoned in afterwards. 18 no. 1s is a very tempting achievement and she went for it. Once Rihanna passes that, it will hit her like a ton of bricks. I'm not saying Rihanna is better than her. Not even in a million years. But better does not equate success, and in the music industry that thrives on records, publicities, and write ups (I mean how many more times do we need to hear "more no. 1 than any female...). So going back to my original point. MC came from a different time, a time when ego and divaness can be equated with talent and success and respect. But this is the "me" generation. If people can't relate to you, they mock you. MC is like Robert DeNiro now, super successful, legendary, but phones in every performance. It's kind of sad to watch actually. The decline went faster than I thought.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 20:55)
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Wow (exclamation mark) (48,546)
by Bill from the UK
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Thank you for the O Holy Night and AIWFCIY videos. The show looks like it was absolutely incredible. The NY fans are so lucky, I wish I could have been there. OHN was beautiful, and AIWFCIY had me smiling from ear to ear. Her voice sounded wonderful and she seemed in great spirits despite the bad press she got the last time she performed. I knew Mariah would deliver. There's a light in her that shines brightly. They can try, but they can't take that away from her.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 20:54)
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Re: Mariah, the queen of shade (48,545)
by jaker20 from US
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I can't watch that video anymore. Another reminder why the AI gig is one of the worst decisions MC made in her career. After that season, she lost her sense of mystery, because her quirks and insecurities became public. I know MC fans generally find that entertaining, but personally, the way she responded to Nikki there made her look insecure, embarrassing and unprofessional. It certainly doesn't make her endearing to the public the way she use to be. Nikki is just as terrible but why go there? Especially in front of the camera. I think MC's career slide lately and Nikki's "success" is partly a result of that period which I wish didn't happen. That video just makes me squirm on my seat, hoping I was one of the technicians and shut off MC's microphone.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 20:41)
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Last night's festivities (48,544)
by Jared from USA
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The house lights dimmed, and scattered cries of joy came from the audience as this tiny little ballerina came onstage twirling to "Dance of the Sugar Plum" fairy. Suddenly, the curtain rose to reveal Mariah dazzling gloriously in a silvery long gown, standing atop a platform made to look like a stack of presents. She is the best present of all, obviously. Wild cheers erupted and the entire theater got to its feet as she cooed the opening strains of Hark. The Herald Angels Sing. She struggled in the beginning. Was it nerves? Technical issues? Perhaps. It was opening night, after all. Did she mime? Yes, a few high belts and buttery soft coos here and there were mimed. When she sang live, and of course she did for most of the show, she sounded lovely. I am happy to report that (as many of you have seen in the photos and videos that have emerged) the production was classy and high-value. I loved the arched giant screen backdrop, which sometimes gave the stage the appearance of a giant snow globe, and the all-white platform for the band and backup singers. The numbers flowed into each other with hardly a lull, with her ensemble of dancers and singers filling in while she changed into two other magnificent dresses. She got a well deserved long standing ovation after "Oh Holy Night". She stopped "Hero" (the only non-Christmas song performed) at the bridge when her mic pack fell off, and started from the top. She was amazing, and gave us a beautiful performance.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 19:57)
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Gutted to be missing New York and Mariah (48,543)
by John john from UK
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Mariah's show of last night looked awesome. She looked great and sounded good. I'm so sad to miss the festive shows. Not as sad as I am to see the press reviews. The press can go screw themselves. I think I'm done reading press about Mariah, it's never good. She can do no right these days. Think as long as you're a fan and you enjoy listening to her unique voice on a good day or bad. Then that's great. I love everything about this over the top diva.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 19:49)
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Randy (48,542)
by B from USA
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Thank God I Found You was a hit because of the remixes. Those remixes are still being played on the radio and in clubs and the original video is one of Mariah's best.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 16:32)
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Randy (48,541)
by B from USA
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You think MJB's The London Sessions is a better album than MIAMTEC? Seriously? I can't. I don't even know what to say. Did you really claim people don't know the words to We Belong Together? Everyone knows that song and unlike Whitney and Celine, Mariah has more than one signature song that she will be remembered for, lol. I can't. Mary lost her crown when Mariah came gunning for it in 1997.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 16:27)
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The O Holy Night video (48,540)
by Mara from United States
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When I watched that video I actually saw a bit of the Make It Happen video MC on stage. Call me crazy but the way her hair looked from that distance, parted on the side (and her color looks great too by the way) looks like it did in the MIH video minus the bangs. The way she moved, and her hand movements. Like stepping back in time. She looks so young. Even her speaking voice was so soft there. I think her look is great and matches the mood of classy, old Hollywood and I love the diamonds and finger waves in the hair. She looked radiant.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 16:22)
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Randy are you serious? (48,539)
by Otti from Belgium
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1. Her hits are not hits? Do you think that We Belong Together is made number one by only the lambs for 14 weeks? I'm sure TEOM was a huge hit because not only of the lambs or fans. To stay 14 weeks at the top of the Hot 100, you need more than fans. The radio has to like you, the listener, people in general has to like your song. 2. Signature song? You can't put Mariah in a box. She sings a ballad, but she also likes to sing hip hop songs. She said once that it's boring if she only sang ballads. I'm sure that a lot of people can sing along with songs like Hero, We Belong Together, Fantasy, My All. The reason she is underrated is that she is youthful, sexy, succesful, the voice. Do you see Celine sing Touch My Body like MC did? Or the late Whitney?
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 15:10)
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O Holy Night (48,538)
by Lee TS from USA
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I thought I was the only one that got Daydream live moments from that video. This is like one of the only times she performed O Holy Night live besides the Christmas special back in 2010 (it was so overdubbed though so hard to consider it live). But in the video especially at 1:07 mark when she sang "appeared" and the way she moved her hand it totally brought me back me Daydream, I'm like obsessed over that one little part. So glad she gave us such incredible vocal moments on opening night. 
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 11:55)
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Mariah needs a change? (48,537)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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While I do agree that Mariah needs a few changes here and there, like she needs to work on not being so late to her shows, she needs to actually show the world how intelligent and brilliant she is (because a lot of people just think she is ditzy), her drinking, and that she needs to get a better stylist, however I disagree with people who are trying to change almost everything about her. I do not mind her insisting on being photographed from one particular angle, she isn't the only one who does that, heck even I only take pictures from one side and I will move my friends in group photos to get my "good" side. I do not like how I look from the other side and I am sure many non-celebs do it. So to bash MC for it is silly. Ofcourse she would want to look her best and to top that off she already has enough haters who put unflattering pictures of her on the net and call her "fat", "ugly" and all those. Next comes the use of "dahlin'". I don't see the problem, it's like her signature style. I love it, it's something only she uses. It's like an MC trademark just like her butterfly rings.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 10:32)
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Beacon concerts (48,536)
by Luke from United Kingdom
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I love this, I was holding back tears because I was in a public place haha. Does anyone get a 1996 MSG vibe from this? I know she didn't sing Christmas songs there but her dress, vocals and how comfortable she is on stage just reminds me of that. This makes me so happy. I wish I live in New York so I could see her.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 9:48)
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Mariah, the queen of shade (48,535)
by Manny from U.S.
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I totally imagine Mariah "throwing shade" to those "fans" that keep criticizing get harshly, like she did to Nikki here. Show business is a business. When anything is televised they're is a lot of planning. People are believing TMZ rumors. NBC never said anything bad about Mariah and she performed. Whateve "she did" was not that bad because she was not fired. People keep posting all these things like her career is over. Maybe some fans haven't heard about her tour this year. They haven't heard how many singers are covering her Christmas single "All I want for Christmas is you". They only focus on anything that could be the demise of Mariah's career. They doubt her legacy. Personally, these are not fans anymore and should move on. She still has thousands of loyal fans that would go see her. That is why she performed in China, Japan, Thailand, Singapore, The Philippines, Australia, New Zealand and New York. What's the point of dwelling on everything she messes up on. I think Wendy Willians is secretly posting here.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 7:46)
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Why Mariah is not respected as a legend, icon in the industry (48,534)
by Randy from USA
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#1. The problem is that her image: eternally 12, lighting, splashes, dahlings, good side, the dresses, lateness overshadows her talent. The woman who wrote Right To Dream, Butterfly, Looking In, Languishing and Petals doesn't even seem like the same person as what she portrays in the media. #2 Her hits are not hits. A lot of her lambs begged radio stations to play her and bought multiple copies of things so songs like Thank God I Found You, Loverboy, I Still Believe made it to the top 5 but in reality no one outside of us know the words or the songs. In addition, what is her signature song? Vision Of Love? Hero? Dreamlover? Fantasy? We Belong Together? And do non-lambs know all of the words? Pretty much everybody in the United States knows all of the words to I Will Always Love You and My Heart Will Go On. #3 Glitter. The thing is anyone can bury a bad movie performance or a flop album. The fact is all of the comics used her as a punchline and many people still think MC is cuckoo. They see her as someone who is fragile and can't accept setbacks. These reasons are why, although she has outsold a lot of people and broken many records, no one but us sees her as the torch carrier for Ross, Streisand, Franklin, Labelle etc. And these lackluster performances and excuses are making things worse.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 6:45)
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Mariah Carey is perfect at being Mariah Carey (48,533)
by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
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She doesn't need to change one hair on her head, one note in her songs, one lyric in her catalogue, one glove on her hand, one flick of her wrist, one swerve of her hips, one slit of her dress, one heel of her shoe or anything else you seem to hate that makes her 100% Mariah Carey. It's a little late to be giving her advise when she's been doing everything right all her life. Not always perfect, but right. Everything she does, she puts her heart and soul into. That's why she was ever successful in the first place, not because of some algorithm of strategic moves designed to get people to like her. 18 #1's, singer songwriter of "Song of the Decade" twice, writer of the last Christmas classic AIWFCIY, pioneer of the HipPop merger, a favourite amongst her peers, her idols and aspiring singers yet still the one to beat even after 25 years in the business. But somehow Mariah is in dire need of your wisdom? Don't make me laugh, bless your little hearts. Please find time to enjoy the Beacon performances, just a tiny bit, inbetween all your grinching. Merry Christmas Mariah, show them how it's done.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 6:34)
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Beacon Theater NYC update (48,532)
by Gilles from Malta
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Here's is the video. We weren't to switch any device on during the show but for the final everybody made one first and formost I want to thank Mariah Carey and her website for having offered to us 2 seats first row in front of her for Christmas special show. Her voice was amazing and flawless tonight and her show was wow. She got a standing ovation for Oh Holy Night and her opening song Hark The Herald Sing In Exisdeo Too. Amazing gospel on Joy To The Works with a powerful performance and other classic songs of her two Christmas albums. Here is the final All I Want For Christmas Is You. It was wow. Playlist: Hark the herald angel sing Oh Santa When Christmas comes Joy to the world Here comes Santa Claus Oh holy night Christmas time is the air All I want for Christmas is you
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 6:31)
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Jared (48,531)
by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago
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Thanks Jared. I'm looking forward to it.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 1:36)
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by Andrew from UK
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So the moral is: "Don't act unlikeable or unrelatable and them people might like you or relate to you." The industry is increasingly geared towards musicians that people think of as "one of them" or representing something they associate with. Mariah harps on with an arrogant attitude throwing out the same rehearsed lines in every interview as if she had nothing to say and is skin deep. Then everyone is exasperated at "people judging her", "not showing her the respect she deserves", etc. What respect does she deserve after her attitude and public behaviour of the past five years? The Rockefeller incident is the beginning of something undoable I think. And the Grammys? It is likely they couldn't give a nomination to an album with vocals so engineered it sounded as if 96 Mariah found a time machine that stopped off to record Loverboy on the way here. The Marissa poster is right (although perhaps somewhat less blunt than I would have said it). This stuff needs to stop or more nails are going in that there career coffin. What happened to the interesting, relatable, glamorous, down-to-earth songstress? Seems she's getting what she deserves and all the "lambs" can do is stick their fingers in their ears. Thousands kept waiting at great personal and financial cost because she had to have a phone call? You make excuses for this? Haters gon hate. Lambs gon bleat. Mariah gon expire.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 0:53)
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Online store (48,529)
by Darryle from USA
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While Mariah's team gave the sight a whole new look they didn't do anything about the online store. Her merchandise isn't gender neutral and most of it's boring in my opinion. When you click a link to buy her CDs it just sends you to Amazon. It'd be really helpful to fans if Mariah or Sony or someone within her team started supplying merchandise. Like the Daydream Tokyo Dome tour, vinyls, or the Thanksgiving special. For a fan like me trying to expand their collection it's especially difficult when the one reputable source offers almost nothing.
(Monday 15 December 2014; 23:37)
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Diva persona / my resolutions for MC (48,528)
by Darryle from USA
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Marissa you're so right. Mariah needs to cut the mess. It might seem funny to some lambs because we're so used to it but it does have to stop. I'm not saying go back to 1990 Mariah when watching her interview was like watching paint dry. Just clean it up a bit. Stop hiding behind the diva persona. She's said before that she uses it to make it seem as though she's not vulnerable. Which is understandle. Being vulnerable in this business, especially when you're a woman, can make you seem weak. She needs to find that balance between being a diva and being seen as vulnerable. She needs to take it back to 1997-2005. On top of that she needs to let Andre Leon Talley or whoever did ither on American Idol dress her again. And start working with Diane Martlet and Brett Ratner again on her videos.
(Monday 15 December 2014; 22:45)
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Fan (48,527)
by Otti from Belgium
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I knew Mariah since Music Box, my oldest brother was a big fan, and back in 1993-1994 Without You was a big hit in Europe. But I became a fan since Butterfly. I remember when I was with my cousin, sitting home, watching MTV when the video of Honey came on tv. We were surprised that Mariah, who we know from songs like Without You, Hero, Endless Love, I'll Be There, is sitting with high heels and black short skirt tied in a chair, then jumping in a pool, to reveal that hot body in bathsuit. And I was like wow, singing ballads, then hip hop, she can do it both. And the hip hop community accepts her. What I want to say is, she can stand there in a long dress singing Love Takes Time and change up to a more sexy look and sing Honey, like it's nothing. And that's the reason why she is being hated. She can do it all. Something her generation can't, I'm talking Whitney (RIP), Celine, Janet.
(Monday 15 December 2014; 22:35)
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Walter and Tommy (48,526)
by B from USA
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This quote sums up my thoughts on Walter and Tommy. "I think Mariah should endorse a brand of Christmas goat cheese made from the milk of those goats," says Afanasieff. "And I would obviously want half of the profits." They only want what they can get from her not what's in her best interest. She co-wrote the music with him and wrote the lyrics by herself so any musician could replace him and she's proven that time and time again. First by working with Warren and Foster and then Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.
(Monday 15 December 2014; 22:10)
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