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Lamb_O_Chop from Australia (41,518) by Joyce from USA "The notion that MC needs or has to change everything about herself just to sell albums or be more 'likeable' to the public annoys the hell out of me". First off loc from az, image is everything in this business. It shouldn't be but it is and yes, changing it up to corresponds with the strategy of a new direction, a new concept, visually communicates evolution, personal growth and Newness artists strive for and not paining the same paining over and over again. Otherwise one becomes stagnate in the same ol' same ol'-or elements of past success, re-arranged and re-packaged as a new product, again. There is a science, a proven formula to long term success and she has the basic elements at her fantastic core but the marketing, and product design and quality are failing. Remember, this is a business, and yes she has proven herself but her entry and durability in this market has been #1, her voice, #2 songs on par with the present market trends and target audience. That is until "Fantasy" when she turned pop and r&b music upside down by merging the two. That became a number one hit and set a new trend rolling singlehandedly. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 23:33)

clueey23, we'll agree to disagree (41,517) by Andrew from Australia Point taken, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. But if you are out there promoting yourself, your music, your album, it is akin to a job interview. It's all about convincing people to invest in your work. Anyway, best wishes to MC and may she be happy if this is what she wants to show the public. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 23:09)

Lee (41,516) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Honey pickles, I suppose my post was confusing to you and others perhaps (I'm glad some understood where I was coming from ). So allow me to make myself more clear. What I suggested (in my post) was in no way implying that MC should completely change who she is as a person (which was what my issue was with what others were implying). The point I was making in my post was "this is how Mariah can revamp and/or better herself without being fake and abandoning who she truly is as a person. And yes I do find it annoying when people want Mariah to be something she's not. Certain things we just have to accept about her: she's a glamour girly girl, she's wants to be sexy, she has a personality and likes to have fun. As for the word "festive", I never felt like she abused it, when ever I've heard her use the word, it was always appropriate timing. How ridiculous is it of us to try to control what little words she uses anyway? Like I say it's very petty. As in your little pet peeve about post over "7 sentences". When I pressed the submit button, I didn't even get the "your post is too long" memo this time. Not that it actually matters anyway (I love reading long post on here ). So again these type of things are what we call "personal problems", which mean it's not my problem. It's yours. Btw the way this isn't a war of words, just a friendly debate amongst lambs/fans/whatever you consider yourself as far as I'm concerned. No hard feelings. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 23:08)

90's Mariah vs 2000's Mariah (41,515) by Licia from USA I thought I was the only person who really didn't care for Mariah's personality in the beginning of her career. I've loved her music from day one, but I didn't like robot Mariah. I could not relate to her back then. I love late 90's to now Mariah because she's showing personality and is some what free to be herself. Basically I like fun drunk Mariah. I'll agree that she should dial it down in certain situations, but I can tolerate it. The only thing about her now that I can't stand is the insecurity issues. I can understand her being insecure about the state of her voice, but not her looks. Although I can relate to being insecure about looks, I don't understand why she's so bad about it because there's nothing wrong with her. This whole only looking good from a certain side started with TM and his people and I hate that she still believes that bs. 90's Mariah rocked in confidence. 2000 Mariah sucks in that department. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 22:19)

You're Mine (Eternal) (41,513) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I love the song. The hook has been eternally (pun intended) in my head since I played it the first time. Lol. Whether it does or doesn't chart well, I think it's a fantastic song that clearly delivers what general music lovers who enjoy music - have come to expect from Mariah's brand. It is simple, yet still delivers the vocals only she can give. The opening part of the track makes me think of sparkles musically, so it's fitting she's covered in glitter in the video. I like the video for this one, I can understand why some feel it's boring and maybe want something other than beauty shots. It's understandable, I just thought it was simple. Mariah likes to feel sexy and feminine - it's her "thing". Sometimes she does stuff for videos that I personally would never be comfortable doing. But, hey, she's not me. Who am I to judge her? If I judge her I'm only comparing her to how I would judge myself. As for the interviews, the "diva" thing for me has always been Mariah's celebrity stage persona. There's so much more to her than that, I always take that stuff as her way of being goofy and not taking life so seriously. Much of the content they ask for on radio interviews or on MTV is pretty superficial in nature as it is. A big part of it too is that I think Mariah's at a point in her life she's choosing to find the joy in everything she's achieved so much and had a work ethic that wouldn't be healthy for anybody. Really, what's left at this point? If fun means showing up with chocolates, candy, and splash, or going on the Today Show in a robe, that's what it means for her. I've got no desire to change her. True, I might not like everything all the time, but she's got to be who she is. We all do. Wishing people would change is just a recipe to cause yourself frustration. I'd rather focus on what makes me happy. We're all evolving beings, so wherever she's at now in her life is where she's choosing to be. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 22:11)

Will the real MC please stand up (41,512) by Me. I am Carly from USA I hear what some are saying about Mariah being herself, but I think Mariah imitates things almost as escapism from just being herself and she is very insecure. So I don't find it attractive, because I don't think it is coming from a place of fun, but a place of insecurity and frustration at her image and how people view her. I think it is her way of being rebellious and saying I can act however I want whenever I want. Of course she can but is is in my opinion not flattering or fun, to me it just seems like she needs to look inside herself more and be more real, real. Btw I totally think she is a diva but with a huge heart and major sensitivity to others. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 21:42)

Revised - finally posted (41,511) by Blake from USA Mariah Carey's "You're Mine (Eternal)", the first single from her new album due May 6, enters the Hot 100 at No. 88. Opening sales of 32,000 account for 62% of its chart points. The ballad is Carey's 46th Hot 100 hit, as well as her first non-collaboration/non-cover/non-holiday entry since "Obsessed" became her 27th and most recent top 10 (reaching No. 7) in 2009. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 21:21)

Paul and Billboard Chart (Bubbling Under and Hot 100) (41,510) by Blake from USA Billboard doesn't update the weekly chart until Thursday but they already announced the top 10 for tomorrow's chart. It looks as if Mariah missed the Hot 100 debut and possibly the Bubbling Under the Hot 100 chart, based on her downloads. If she would have debuted, they would have mentioned how many times an entry of hers has appeared even in the top 100. I hope this helps answer your question. Hopefully her promotion kicks in with doing the TV talk shows with live performances. Here's hoping. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 20:34)

Video boring? (41,509) by Will from England I saw this comment on another website, that the video was "boring", and it lead me to think about all her other videos (specifically her early videos), and wondering about how they would be received today. VOL could be classified as boring at first, because all she is doing is standing around/sitting on a windowsill and singing. Nothing much going on there. LTT, all she's doing is wandering up and down and beach in a swimsuit. IDWC, sitting around in an abandoned house. Emotions, singing amongst friends and posing in a car sums that video up. CLG, beautifully shot, but nothing going on. OSD, singing in a studio. TGIFY, singing to an audience (same goes for ISB) etc. etc. My point is, is that YME is not the first Mariah music video that has no storyline, nor do I doubt it being the last. Yes, it would have been nice to have a storyline and to have seen more of the rainforest (as someone pointed out below), however, it's not like as if it's Mariah's first non-storylined video. It's beautifully shot and tastefully done. That's my two cents anyway. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 20:05)

Holiday singer / teen market (41,508) by Lyric from USA I think promoting the song alongside Valentine's day and giving it a Valentine's theme was a bad idea. Of course the song would be forgotten after that holiday, hell the single cover has candy hearts on it. Mariah is starting to seem like a holiday act and I don't want that to happen. She's already heavily associated with Christmas. I'm starting to think Easter is next. Expecting a song to sell based on a holiday is not a good strategy because what's supposed to happen afterwards? I've also been wondering how Mariah can somehow become relevant to teens again. We all want commercial success (even those who deny it) and teens are the largest group of music buyers. Her age is a factor but the ball gowns and diva antics don't make her relatable to teens or people in their early 20s. I'm just wondering what her demographic appeal is and what she can do to make it wider. Anyone have any ideas? (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 19:57)

My 2 cents on everything (41,507) by JBfly from USA First off it's been a long time since I posted on here but I frequently visit this site everyday. Nice to see new faces and of course the older ones too (no pun intended to the "old" fans like myself). Loving the song. Video could've been better in the same league of My All and Butterfly but it still watchable. As for interviews. I believe Mariah knows when to be serious and when to be a diva. Just look at Oprah, Barbara Walters or Larry King interviews versus MTV, Leno, Letterman, Fallon, Kimmel, and radio stations interview. I think it's all about the setting of the interview. And I've come to accept most of Mariahs antics (not all). Do I wish that she could be more serious when it comes to interviews? Yes. But as a human being I think she's allowed to loosen up once in awhile. I can't. Wait for the new album and hope the general public will embrace it. For the time being. We need to continue buying (if you haven't already done it), request on radios and stream both video versions and both audio versions on YouTube because they all count as airplays. Keep it up lambily. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 19:40)

Darryle / Marilyn Monroe (41,506) by Mara from United States Look up the video for I Still Believe and you can see how glamorous M is. The imitation of MM is all through the video. Mariah looks amazing in that video too by the way. I love her hair like that. Her earrings and the dress. What an amazing video. I would love to see her in that hair color once more. You can also see a reenactment of a Marilyn Monroe movie scene in the Don't Forget About Us video. The pool scene is inspired by a movie scene in "Something's Gotta Give". (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 19:28)

Lamb_O_Chop (41,505) by Isaac Ortiz from USA I agree with you. It would be nice to see Mariah in a nice blouse and jeans. But her appearance and dresses have looked fine to me. All I care about is the music. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 18:19)

Critiques (41,504) by G.G. from USA I've been a Lamb since the 90's. Just because you critique or don't like everything someone does or says does not mean you don't love them and support them. I agree that Mariah needs to rein it in a little bit. Her MTV interview was hard to watch. I was so disappointed. That was her moment to show the world (non lambs) why she is the legend she is. Instead it was an incoherent mess. I cringed watching it. She needs to stop the British accent, (dahhling), and stop the diva antics. Enough. You want people to take you seriously as a songwriter and producer, calm down the incoherent silly interviews. You can be yourself and still keep it together. I love MC and want her to b successful. To do that she needs to win over some of the younger consumers. The interviews she's done is not going to do that, IMO. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 18:17)

The album will have revelations (41,503) by Me. I am Carly from USA I kinna think once the Mariah album comes out, we will start to have a much better understanding of how Mariah feels and where she is at. I expect, as Nick has revealed, that we will see a woman, trying to process a lot of change in her life, and dealing with neediness and terrible fear and insecurity as well as unconditional love and joy. That is the journey she has been through. The interviews and all that will hopefully get better when she has songs to sing and can talk about them more throughly. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 18:16)

Lamb_O_Chop (41,502) by Lee from UK Without wishing to start a war of words, honey, it wasn't just your emoticons that were off in your penultimate post. You went from expressing your annoyance of people recommending how Mariah should change to recommending how you would like Mariah to change yourself (in no more than about 7 sentences). I myself have no problems with the words she uses (just the attitude that goes with them) but you must be on another bloody planet if you feel she doesn't use the word "festive" very often. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 18:11)

Andrew / thoughts (41,501) by clueey23 from USA I think MCs actions would annoy me if she wasn't just being herself. This isn't a job interview so cut that comparison. When you're being interviewed and one of the people interviewing you is asking about your sex life and another is saying they "didn't know you had ass". How can you even ask for MC to be serious. How could you not love how relaxed she was during the MTV interview with Sway. As long as MC is alive I just wanna appreciate her contributions to music. I don't care about all the stuff that people seem to be stressing out over. It seems she will never be able to satisfy a select type of her "fans". People on here are like, "MC should've brought Tupac from the dead instead of doing the song with Trey Songz." We all know the best are the most unusual. As long as MC isn't changing her face with plastic surgery and covering her kids with blankets, she's alright in my book. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 18:01)

Album title (41,500) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I would like a simple, one word title if possible. Obviously, it's Mariah's artistic freedom to do as she pleases. However, something strong would be good, you know to cement her legacy, like Undisputed. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 17:50)

Rjj12 (41,499) by Me. I am Carly from USA I agree that Journey may be her idea. I like My Journey or The Journey better than just Journey which just makes me think of the band ha. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 17:26)

Face time matters (41,498) by Me. I am Carly from USA The reality is that Mariah is doing the interviews because she needs to. She needs to promote the song with her personality that is why she is there that is why they don't play the record, like it or not her persona is a factor. And I love Mariah so I am not going to pretend to enjoy this faux attitude and as it was brilliantly put 24/7 Loreal commercial. Come on Mariah, drop (a lot) of the act and show us you sincerity. I should add many people will and have always hated her but for the undecided and the people that are devoted to her she ought to know better. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 17:19)

Kenny from Canada (41,497) by David from Spain Mariah isn't the same, Mariah shouldn't do music for teens because she is nearly 44 years old. Her problem is that the beginning of her career was wrong because it's not what she wanted. I don't say that You're Mine is a flop but iTunes and charts say otherwise. Sorry but I'm realistic. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 17:12)

Name the album (41,496) by Me. I am Carly from USA I think it would be pretty sweet if Mariah let the fans name the album. Not that I would expect her to give up that creativity but still would be pretty cool. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 16:38)

Corrections (41,495) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Some of my emoctions were off. I didn't meant to use this I meant to use and instead of using this I meant to use . Oh I also meant to add in my critique she should lay off on the "splashes" a bit. Carry on. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 16:33)

Critical moment (41,494) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia The notion that MC needs or has to change everything about herself just to sell albums or be more "likeable" to the public annoys the hell out of me. She didn't even use the word "festive" that often for anyone to be annoyed by it , besides it's an actual respectable word. And I agree with clueey23 the word "dahling" doesn't bother me whatsoever. You guys actually think her not using those two words anymore will affect her career in anyway? If so that's petty as hell, and just sounds like a personal issue and not MC's issue. In the words of the late great Whitney Houston, I give a hardy "hell to the no" to the pixie cut and mom jeans recommendations. That won't help her sell albums either, it'll just make her look like Joan Rivers stunt double for no good reason at all. Mariah will always be a glamorous woman with long beautiful hair, you'll just have to deal "darlings". If I had to critique Mariah I would say she should hire a new stylish to take her look to another level, not cut all the gorgeous hair off, but just change the color or style it differently, maybe rock the designer pants and blouse looks from time to time (still keeping it very glamorous and feminine), make great music, give great live performances, and just have a more serious balance to her interviews and she'd be just fine. Beening a fake robotic Stepford wife would only make her a bore. Besides that I say eff the world and do you Mimi. Can we say nothing left to prove? (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 15:56)

David from Spain (41,493) by Kenny from Canada Your trolling is a flop. If you don't have anything intelligent to add to the conversation, just keep your juvenile remarks to yourself. (Wednesday 19 February 2014; 15:35)

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