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Nikki / why music albums leak (38,205)
by Edward from USA
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It is almost impossible for an album not to leak at least one or two weeks before its release date. By the time an album is available to the general public, it has already been physically produced and distributed at least a week before. In the middle of all the distribution process, thousands of people other than the record label executives get to lay their hands on the album, even if it is only to package them for distribution. I personally got my physical copy of TEOM two weeks before. This is going to keep happening as long as we have the internet and physical CDs. Once CDs completely disappear, then it would be a different story. That's why Mariah had complete control over when #Beautiful was released.
(Monday 10 June 2013; 3:45)
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Memoirs tricks (38,204)
by nikki from usa
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I had forgotten how Memoirs was leaked 2 weeks before its release date. That seriously impacted how her sales did, since people were downloading it for free and they were never able to plug up the leak. It was one of her most critically acclaimed albums and I think it would have done far better otherwise. Because of what happened with Memoirs, I think that's why Mariah is being so secretive about this album. She's been far more open in the past, but far more hush-hush this time around. I'm going to consider this a good thing.
(Sunday 9 June 2013; 23:23)
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The voice debate (38,203)
by Gerald from USA by the way of NYC
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This particular situation has been beat like a dead horse at this point. It is what it is. Fans and critics alike have to either accept it and move on. As for Will I Am next.
(Sunday 9 June 2013; 22:38)
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Voice and age (38,199) by TJ (38,202)
by Giselle #1 Mariah Critic from USA
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I agree. I've noticed on a lot of pics Mariah has posted on Instagram that she drinks a lot. That easter pic of her with the kids, a glass is right in front of her lol. The limo ride to Hot 97? A glass in her hand lol. I kinda think Eminem was on to something when he said she drinks a lot. All that alcohol isn't good for your voice. Notice when she was pregnant her voice was the strongest it's been in years. Mariah needs to hire a vocal coach and take better care of her voice. She doesn't get much sleep either, her crazy hours she works. Oh and the way she was laughing I'm pretty sure a splash was in that sippy cup be hide the scenes of #Beautiful. 
(Sunday 9 June 2013; 21:23)
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Will.i.am / Mariah and the artist within (38,201)
by Edward from USA
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Wil.i.am made a very unnecessary comment. He doesn't even deserve the attention. People need to be careful about comparing singers to Mariah. Mariah is not only about the voice, but about the way she uses it. Some may know how to paint, but artistry comes from within not from techniques. Mariah just happens to have them both plus a not-less-important ingredient called charisma. Leona Lewis was hailed the next Mariah according to Simon, but a great voice and hitting notes haven't quite done it for her. Mariah may not have the voice she had, but she's still a true artist in so many other ways. If she were to completely lose her voice and the money she has, she would be just fine by producing and writing. My ears haven't experienced vocal layering like Mariah does. If we pay close attention to the vocals in the background on any of her songs, we would realize how great of an artist she is.
(Sunday 9 June 2013; 18:54)
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Will.I.am / Mariah's voice (38,200)
by Joe from United Kingdom
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Yes, Mariah's voice is not the same, but when people make statements like her voice is gone/shot, it's abit ridiculous. Mariah's voice then and even now is still unmatched because of her tone alone. Nobody can touch that. If you give a 20 year old a basic note or phrase to sing, Mariah will sound a lot better singing it, because her dynamics and tone are just one of a kind. I have to agree that maybe she should stop making her songs so hard to sing live. I actually like it when notes on the studio track are left more raw and raspy. It adds more feeling to the song for me. Will. Why is Mariah ever gonna wish she sounded like anyone else when she herself practically set the standard of what is a great female vocalist. Get real please.
(Sunday 9 June 2013; 16:57)
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Voice and age (38,199)
by TJ from Norway
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How on earth do some people think that the age of 43 is old when talking about the female voice? People on this board have said things like that since the beginning (when Mariah was only in her 20's, early 30's). Let's call a spade, a spade. Her voice has changed, and it's not only because she sings a lot. George Michael has not lost his voice, Freddy Mercury had his voice untill the end, Aretha still has a strong voice (and she is at that age, where her voice has been touched by the ageing). Celine Dion has a stronger voice, and she perform a lot more than Mariah. I think Mariah should make songs that fits her current voice. Not try to recapture old moments. They are gone (at least when singing live).
(Sunday 9 June 2013; 13:52)
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RadChad / Stacey (38,198)
by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
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RadChad, I really like your last post, and how you expressed yourself. I totally agree with what you've said, with the exception of your point on her legacy. For us lambs, we can always look at her old performances, and you're right, we know that nobody can touch that voice when it was at its best, but for casual fans/listeners, they don't think so much of yesterday, but in the here and now, and quite easily slag her off. I've heard my friends, who as casual fans, have been out off by her voice in recent years. Nevertheless, you are totally spot on, just because the chick he referred to has a voice in better condition, it doesn't mean she's a better singer. She's not. Not even close. She'll be nobody in 2 months. Stacey hit the nail on the head, and she's right, I'm just gonna ignore such a comment. At the end of the day the show is flopping in the UK, so it's not hard to figure out why he's trying to draw attention to himself and his act. On a side note, I don't rate him as a producer. I think he's his own biggest fan. His music is just generic EDM crap to me.
(Sunday 9 June 2013; 13:05)
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Will.I.Am slams MC (38,197)
by Stacey from USA
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When a person slams someone with MC's resume (18 #1 hits, #1 albums, countless top 10 hits, over 200 million records sold, etc), it's simply jealousy. Pure jealousy. While artists may come close to tying MC's 18 #1 hits, no one will ever come close to selling as many records as Mariah. Chalk it up to jealousy and move on. He's not worth any more of my time.
(Sunday 9 June 2013; 3:37)
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Re: Gilbert (38,196)
by nikki from usa
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People like to obsess over MC's body parts, but tend to zoom in so much they don't notice the rest of her. Mariah gained over 30 lbs between '97 and '99. Implants make your boobs bigger, but not the rest of you. Renee Zelewegger gained the same amount of weight to play Bridget Jones and her boobs, along with the rest of her, were huge. After Renee lost the weight, she went back to her stick figure boobless self. Mariah was a stick figure when she came out, she gained a healthier weight which enhanced her assets, but because she kept covered, no one paid any mind. Mariah Carey is a C cup. For those of us who have her 2003 calendar or are familiar with the pics taken in the Philipinnes and especially those of her topless with her dog on the beach from 2008 would notice Mariah isn't all that busty. She has natural tear drop shaped breasts. She discovered push up bras and gel fillers while photographers discovered photoshop. As someone who spent years in the cleavage department, let me tell you. There are pushups you can wear with gel fillers that take up the majority of the cup. Only a quarter of the boob will actually fit in there, so the rest of your breasts are smashed to the chest creating huge swells. It looks like your cup size has doubled. The only downfall is increased chance of "nip slip" as the areolas are right on the verge of the fabric.
(Sunday 9 June 2013; 2:21)
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RadChad (38,195)
by enwar00 from usa
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I love the new picture.
(Sunday 9 June 2013; 1:15)
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Mariah's voice (38,194)
by John from USA
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When Mariah first broke through into the scene with VOL, I knew I would be a fan for for life. I used to say (okay, more like brag to others): the only limit to what Mariah can do with her voice is her imagination. While that may not be the case anymore these days, we will always have her best vocal performances during her prime.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 22:47)
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Mariah's legacy / what's his face (38,193)
by RadChad from United States
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I wouldn't say she's losing respect for her voice, because if you know who Mariah is, you can always go back down memory lane and see what she was capable of in her prime. Much like Whitney Houston is still considered arguably the best female voice of all time, despite her vocal decline. I will say people may or have taken notice the of decline though, they have ears just like us, but it just doesn't necessarily mean they don't respect or remember her legacy as one of the top vocalist. As far as the comment Will.i.am made, it was very unnecessary, he's not in any place to come for MC's current vocal condition. And that girl is okay, she's not the phenomenon Mariah was, so I doubt Mariah would want to sound like her. Just because her voice is in better condition, doesn't mean she's a better singer. Mariah would probably just want her nodules to disappear and for her voice to not be so sensitive, so she can still have her voice in top notch condition while still being able to enjoy life.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 20:10)
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Will.i.am (38,192)
by Jenny from South Africa
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I'm so disappointed in Will.i.am. I didn't expect this from him. How can he compare a 20 year old to a 43 year old who's been singing so much since she was 18. It's such a joke. Maybe he's bitter the song he produced with Mariah never made it onto The Emancipation Of Mimi. The Black Eyed Peas aren't exactly the best sounding act when they perform live. I always cringe when I see them try. They sound great on radio and that's it. And his solo career hasn't exactly been some amazing success. I had such respect for him though, before this unnecessary comment. If he really wanted to say something, he could have phrased it in a more respectful manner. Mariah has earned respect after such a long and successful career.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 19:03)
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Album cover / Loverboy (38,191)
by Bill from the UK
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If I could redo an album cover, it would be #1's. Some promo adverts had a different cover, a shot of Mariah from what seemed like the same photoshoot that produced the single cover for The Roof. It was much better in my opinion. #1's extended her ankles to make her legs look longer and it looks ridiculous. As for Loverboy, I love the video, it is one of my favourites. Every shot looks like a photograph. I love the bright colours against the cobalt blue sky and the racing cars. Just brilliant.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 16:53)
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Will wishes he was Kanye (38,190)
by Anonymous from
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Will is trying to stay relevant by courting controversy. He is always trying to knock on people who are more talented than he is. He should just go away. Fergie is the star of The Black Eyed Peas, not him. And she can't sing. He's working with Britney and Kesha and he's going to disrespect a living legend.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 15:49)
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Boob job (38,189)
by Lyric from USA
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Yeah, I don't see why this is still discussed when it's obvious she has implants, and it's been obvious since 1999. She was practically flat-chested when she debuted. Fans shouldn't be in denial, it's not like plastic surgery makes Mariah a bad person or tarnishes her image. She's not the first and she won't be the last. 
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 14:51)
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Will.i.am slams Mariah on The Voice (38,188)
by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
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Will.i.am more or less slammed Mariah on the UK version of The Voice last night. He basically said that if Mariah heard this particular contest sing, she'd be like "darn, I wish I could sing lik that". The girl he referred to has a good voice. She's no Mariah though. She has no vocal tone, and her whistles sound more like very high falsetto notes than whistles. They are ugly ones at that. The sad fact is tough, the girls voice is probably better than Mariah's in its current shape. I think the world is taking note of the state of Mariah's voice, and that she's seriously losing some respect for her voice. These comments wouldn't have been made a few years ago. Despite this, I still think Will had some cheek to say that about Mariah on live TV. Has anyone heard Fergie from BEP try to bust a note live? She sounds like she's giving birth. I'm just saying.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 12:15)
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Gilbert / Mariah's boobs (38,187)
by Edward from USA
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Gilbert, I used to defend Mariah and her naive theory of push-up bras, but looking closely at some pictures with less than a year apart that I was just in plain denial. By the time Rainbow came out, Mariah had grew new boobies, good for her. My sister had made a comment about her implants and I told her about the the push-up bras theory, and she told me sarcastically that when Mariah discloses where to find those bras and the name, she would get a few of them. My sister is a fan. I don't see anything wrong with women getting a good pair of boobs, if it lifts their self esteem, good for them. I don't defend Mariah about her boobies anymore, I just enjoy them, that's why she got them. Besides, most artists even younger than her have had some tweaking here and there.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 3:24)
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That's what I call promotion (38,186)
by Anonymous from
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Carey, Island Def Jam and B96.5 and BET. 
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 2:52)
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Gilbert (38,185)
by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
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Mariah's best friend is her airbrush. I'd assume any difference in size is likely to be attributed to that and some padding. I'm not sure where this topic has come from, but whilst it's your prerogative to bring up any topic you want on this board, I find it a tad redundant to bring up something that has been discussed a million times over since like 1999. Mariah's been defending her body image for a long time, and quite frankly, I hate seeing topics like this on a fan message board. It's not healthy for Mariah, her fans, or women in general.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 2:38)
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Redo album cover (38,184)
by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
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For me, the MOAIA album cover has to be her worst. It looks cheap and amateurish. It also seems to lack any direction. Mariah should have stuck to the white colour scheme, but kept it simpler, with a more poignant pose, and a nicer outfit. I'm sure she'll do much better with this album cover. She and her new team seem to be getting more right since the release of #Beautiful.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 2:26)
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Mariah (38,183)
by Gilbert from USA
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Okay, just based on fans opinions, did Mariah get a boob job? I always had her back with people who liked to twist my arm about that, because I remember when I've met her I don't recall seen them look so big as we see on pictures. Do you think they are enhanced? Or she really did have work done? Also thank you to those who answered the album question. I've always just be curious if anyone else could change an album cover what it would be.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 2:17)
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Loverboy / Obsessed / Stacey (38,182)
by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
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I'm not a huge fan of the Loverboy song. I like it, but I don't love it. I think the lack of a coherent chorus is what annoys me. However, as a visual, I love the video. It's fun. If you're going to do a fun, summer video, with no choreography, then that's how you should do it. Re Obsessed, I love the song and video lol. I totally agree with you regarding the formula Stacey. It worked before, and I think if the music is on point, then it will work again.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 2:17)
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Blake (38,181)
by Gilbert from USA
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That response gave me a laugh. thank you. That cover was all wrong. Bad shadows and bad Photoshop. Her chee chee's grow 3 different sizes with each pose. If she had a pic with just a relaxed look and her eyes closed, that would've been perfect. Because that album can put you to sleep.
(Saturday 8 June 2013; 2:13)
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