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Bob (36,745)
by Neri from USA
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Not giving approval of people hating Tommy and I completely wish people would relegate him to the past, but at the same time your downplaying how Mariah felt when she was married to the man by brushing it off as her being young is completely out of line. "Adios Johnny Bravo"? From what Mariah has said she would've stayed if he went to marriage counseling and stopped breathing down her neck, but he didn't so she left. Don't make it seem as though she used him and then threw him to the wayside, as you have no proof of any such thing. And I'm not trying to insinuate that there's anything wrong with Thalia and Tommy's marriage, but the truth about all people is that we don't know a thing about what happens behind anyone's door once it closes. Their marriage could be absolutely fine or he could be controlling to her and she chooses to stay, or today or tomorrow they could divorce and she too could publicly state that their marriage was terrible and that he was controlling or she could not. You never know.
(Thursday 15 November 2012; 23:26)
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Hello lambs (36,744)
by Anthony from London, UK
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Just thought I'd introduce myself, I have been coming to this site for many years to keep updated on Mariah as I have been a fan right from the start. I really enjoy reading all the post on here and thought it was about time I joined so that I can post and share my thoughts on Mimi with you all. Thats all for now lambs, I look forward to posting soon, have a good day.
(Thursday 15 November 2012; 21:53)
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Tommy, If I hear that name one more time... (36,743)
by Anonymous from
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Is it me or does it seem many fans and lambs are still hung up on talking about Tommy Mottola? Even Mariah still tends to either write or talk about her time with him and it's always negative (and for the most part meaningless). The '90's ended long ago and whatever went on back then has no bearing on 2012. So many people hate the guy and I could never understand why. He was "controlling". What? Most young people who marry older people say that. It's not controlling so much as it is maturity. Mariah was 23, and everytime Tommy said "no" to her, it was for a reason, yet in her young mind that was probably considered "controlling". I bet she looks back now and truly understands most of what he did and why. Whether fans or lambs like it or not, he was the one who held the ladder while Mariah climbed it. Once she got there, it was "Adios Johnny Bravo". Now I'm not saying the guy was a saint. No one's perfect. All I'm saying is he thought with his whatzit, not his brain. He married too young of a girl, that's all. So in conclusion, please relegate Tommy to Mariah's and our past, where he belongs. The guy's been married to Thalia for years and she never said he was controlling. That's because she was already older when they married and she understood what maturity was all about. So to does Mariah... now. Let's look forward to what Mariah has in store as there is no future in the past. Enjoy the day everyone.
(Thursday 15 November 2012; 6:36)
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No Mottola? What a fun game (36,742)
by nikki from usa
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You're a record producer. A young goddess walks up to you with a voice that touches the angels yet can go low enough to make the devil cream himself. Exactly how hard is that to promote? If it weren't for Mottola, Everything Fades Away and Slipping Away would be on an album and be singles. I don't know if they'd reach #1, but I think they're top 10's. If Mariah had more creative control and wasn't put into a "love song only or bust" box, I'd really like to hear what she'd put out. I love the grittiness of songs like Prisoner and You Need Me, There's Got To Be A Way - I think she was far more well rounded in the beginning before she was put into a 1 dimensional box. If TM wasn't there telling her she had a big forehead and only half her face was good, how would she have been received differently by the media? I don't think she'd have as many #1's here, but I think she'd have more worldwide. It doesn't matter what label put out VOL or Someday, those would've done what they were gonna do. Being the Christmas queen she is, I think AIWFCIY would still have come to being. Honestly, if Mottola weren't in the picture and she'd signed to Warner Bros. as intended, I think she'd still be successful (perhaps not quite to this degree), but be a more versatile artist, and more respected by the public at large.
(Thursday 15 November 2012; 5:56)
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Mariah's new project (36,741)
by Nick from Canada
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I like Triumphant's message, but I'm hoping it isn't a sign of things to come. I am mostly hoping Mariah turns introspective on this album. With marriage, a difficult pregnancy and the birth of beautiful twins, she has more than enough inspiration to write some beautiful songs about love, triumph through adversity, and motherhood. Trying to cater to a younger crowd should not be her objective anymore.
(Thursday 15 November 2012; 4:50)
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Will, I couldn't agree with you more (36,740)
by Edward from USA
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There’s a huge engine behind an artist success and Mariah is not the exception here. Mariah is not being successful these days because she's not being played on the radio. Tommy made sure her music got played, just the same way he sabotaged the Glitter album by allowing JLo use that sample when he clearly knew Mariah was already using it, and using his connections to make sure her music wasn’t played. Record labels and management companies with their guidance, programming and strategies are responsible for a great part of an artist success. For TEOM there was heavy promotion and a sense of wanting to make things work. LA Read had meetings with important stations, DJ’s and Mariah to make sure she had a chance. If LA hadn’t told Mariah to go back and work with JD more, the standout tracks on TEOM wouldn’t have been there, so his guidance was important. I don’t like Tommy, but I don’t underestimate what he and Sony did for Mariah. Thanks to them, her music was available to us, and her voice was well taken care of. It's true Mariah had a great voice and talent, but it's not less true that Tommy made sure that talent was heard. Look at Obama crying with gratitude while addressing his campaign team. Like when Cindy Burger snatched the microphone off Mariah's hand when she had the breakdown and was talking senselessly, there's a lot going on behind an artist pretty face and talent.
(Thursday 15 November 2012; 4:18)
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Here's the thing (36,739)
by RibbonB from USA
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Many people achieved their greatest successes working with or for Mariah, but none of them have achieved that with other acts. Mariah is a force unto herself. And I believe she achieved it despite some of these characters, TM especially. She keeps shining, despite the fact that many of her so called supporters, helpers etc want to claim credit for this and that. Many were just along for the ride and some were dragging on her coat tails. It is what it is and it aint what it aint and she is still standing.
(Thursday 15 November 2012; 2:12)
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Geraldine (36,738)
by Will from England
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No, I don't think she would have made it with another company. Tommy ran the show during the 90s, Tommy was the one who invested in her, Tommy was the one who made sure her first album was a smash. So she does owe her success to Tommy and Sony, despite what went on behind the scenes and all that. If Mariah wanted to go down the thick RnB route that she really wanted, I doubt she would be the legend she is today, and known all over for her voice.
(Wednesday 14 November 2012; 23:00)
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Mariah's success belongs to Mariah (36,737)
by RibbonB from USA
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Everybody else is a footnote to her success, lol. Every artist has a moment, or apex of their career. Mariah's just happened to be in the beginning of hers. Her voice and talent started in an era where the timing was right, her age was right etc etc. TEOM was another milestone, but every career has peaks and valleys, otherwise it's just one plateau. Mariah is blessed and is a legend no matter what else she does. The great thing about her is she is not trying to replicate anything, she keeps moving forward. Bring it on home.
(Wednesday 14 November 2012; 21:29)
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Re: Paul/BIOH (36,736)
by Joanna from Poland
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Paul I totally respect your opinion, but I have to disagree with you when it comes to BIOH. I've been listening to this song for the last couple of days, and I really enjoy it. It makes me feel good and the vocal is great.
(Wednesday 14 November 2012; 21:01)
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Paul (36,735)
by Sasha from Nomansland
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As you said, Mariah had the recipe for the success, but I think it's mainly because she had at the time one of the most powerful music company working for her and was married as well with a powerful business man who focused all his attention on her and her success and knew exactly what to do to put her at the top of the charts. Of course she's talented, but without the "right" crew at her sides she can't make miracles. It seems now that she's working only with friends and people she trusts, which I can understand after what she went through with TM. There are a lot of talented poeple on earth who will never be known or famous and other so-called artists who make a lot of money only because they are around smart people. I'm not saying that she owns her success in the 90s to TM and Sony Music, but I wonder if she would have had the same career if she had signed a deal with another record company. What do you think?
(Wednesday 14 November 2012; 17:59)
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Diamonds/Nicki Minaj (36,734)
by Jamie from UK
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Yeah, Chase and Jay understand what I meant. I know videos didn't make Mariah famous, but I just feel she could make more of an effort in that area, that's all. Creative videos make an artist more interesting IMO. In response to your first question Paul, YouTube of course. Music videos get millions of views from an international audience. Nikki, Nicki Minaj actually raps "I win gold like Gabby" not "cold like Carey" lol. As for Idol, we'll just have to wait and see what made Nicki react the way she did. Even if Mariah started it, I bet most will still be on her side. 
(Wednesday 14 November 2012; 17:09)
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Paul / videos / BIOH / producers / Adventure of Mimi / old Mariah (36,733)
by Chase from USA
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First of all, even with MTV, VH1, and BET barely playing videos, YouTube has become the place people go for music videos. Just look at the hundreds of millions of views some videos have on YouTube. I agree, Bring It On Home was nothing spectacular, but I appreciate the vocals and message and think it is a major improvement after Triumphant. It's not a single, anyway. I also agree Mariah should collaborate with new producers or even reconnect with old ones. It is good to hear she might work with Stevie J again. I have to disagree with your criticism of The Adventures of Mimi, which was well-received by reporters and fans all over North America. Were the vocals what they used to be? No, but I don't think many people are debating that. She sounds very good to me, and the performances exuded a confidence and comfort you won't find on MTV Unplugged or Fantasy at Madison Square Garden. I did not care for the two piece with the cape, however. That was unnecessary. Do fans miss the old Mariah so much? Most of the time, I'm playing an album from the '90s, and I do tend to reminisce. However, I'm glad Mariah continued to grow and transform into the 21st century. The Emancipation Of Mimi wouldn't have been possible otherwise. That said, I am disappointed with most of her post-Emancipation material, like many fans and the public. I imagine she can see that her sales figures reflect that.
(Wednesday 14 November 2012; 16:13)
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Videos, Mariah needs to step up her game (36,732)
by Paul from Usa
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I only ask my next question because everyone is comparing Mariah to Rihana. Do people watch videos anymore? I mean, MTV, VH1 and BET are just filled with silly game shows/documentaries etc. Why bother creating them anymore? I do understand the difference of talent, and drive between the two, but I don't think it could hurt Mariah to sing a song such as "Only girl in the world" or "Don't stop the music" and get the direction she needs from a producer to tell her how to sing the song etc. I think it would help her get the attention of others. I mean, it's no different than Mimi covering a song and making it a hit, like "Open Arms" etc. I think one of Mariah's biggest mistakes is that she works with the same producers over and over again, and that she produces herself. Even we get people to proof read an assignment before we turn it in. Mariah used to have this recipe for success back in the day, where is it now? Most people admit, they like the older Mariah better. Has she not realized this is what her fans are asking for? This is what we want? Does she not hear? Or does she ignore? I really do not think her heart is in the music anymore. Even live performances are dull nowadays. "The adventures of Mimi" was a disaster. What is your opinion?
(Wednesday 14 November 2012; 10:11)
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Bring it on home (36,731)
by Paul from Usa
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I don't find it creative at all, quite generic if you ask me. Mariah, where did your writing skills go? I don't find it inspiring whatsoever. "We gon bring it home"? Its weird, because like most of the track, and I do feel/hear the Daydream-ish parts of it, but, the song isn't motivating, to me, it sounds a bit dreary and depressing. I can only hope for better material on the next album. BIOH and Triumphant are garbage.
(Wednesday 14 November 2012; 9:54)
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What is this? (36,730)
by nikki from usa
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Interestingly, Nicki's side of the story doesn't actually say anything about the "feud", she's only mad that Barb didn't call her. Nicki keeps saying Mariah phoned Barb when on The View, while Barb stated clearly that she called MC after hearing rumors. Mariah had told her the only reason she took the threats seriously is because Idol producers told her they overheard Nicki too. You're not that bright if you're allowing the producers play one off the other. Nicki has had opportunities to say her piece, instead she's constantly talking about why more people aren't talking to her about it. And c'mon, you were happy that day? You're caught on tape cussing Mariah out, so everyone was sent home early. You have a rap on Alicia's new song Girl on Fire - "not cold like Carey". You're on twitter claiming MC's jealous of you being the best judge since Simon Cowell. Now, you love Mariah and don't want a rift? You wanna sing with her again? Nicki, are you bipolar?
(Tuesday 13 November 2012; 6:09)
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Videos / Rihanna (36,729)
by Chase from USA
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Yes, Mariah is on a much higher level than Rihanna, certainly in terms of talent and contribution to pop culture. That said, Mariah has to step up the quality of relevant things, like music videos, in order to be competitive in this musical environment. I haven't watched Rihanna's video, and I wouldn't want Mariah to imitate Rihanna's style. However, there really is no excuse for the lack of quality in many of Mariah's recent videos. I think a lot of us are just asking for her to give us high quality Mariah Carey videos.
(Monday 12 November 2012; 23:13)
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Mariah/Rihanna (36,728)
by Jay from USA
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I do believe people are getting the wrong idea of comparing Mariah to Rihanna. I think it's more of comparison of the video quality. I don't think they mean to have Mariah copy Rihanna's style. We are just asking for better quality videos. And I personally don't like Nick's style of directing, but that's just my opinion.
(Monday 12 November 2012; 19:15)
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Geezy (36,727)
by Stella from Greece
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I completely agree. Mariah is on a completely other level. Being compared to Rihanna, of all people? Please.
(Monday 12 November 2012; 8:42)
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Videos (36,726)
by Ryan from the Philippines
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I agree, and I don't want to see Mariah smoking methamphetamine in her videos. It is not right to compare her videos to other singers. I love Rihanna, but she is of a different level.
(Monday 12 November 2012; 4:24)
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To Be Around You (36,725)
by enwar00 from usa
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The song To Be Around You just popped in my head. I think I'll listen to the Emotions album tomorrow.
(Monday 12 November 2012; 3:23)
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Can we please... (36,724)
by Geezy from USA by way of NYC
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Can we please stop comparing our queen Mariah to all these pop tarts of today. All the Rihanna, Gaga, Katy comparsions are very weak because all three of these artists are a total different breed from Mimi and come from a different cloth as far as artistry,videos, promotion ect. Let's respect these artists for who they are and what they represent to the music culture and let's respect our queen for what she has brought and is still bringing to the music culture whether we agree with it or not. In the words of our beloved queen, be nice or leave.
(Sunday 11 November 2012; 23:46)
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Videos (36,723)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Mariah's not Rihanna and Rihanna's definitely not Mariah. One's an artist with raw talent who got to where she is today based on that undeniable talent, the other's just a commercial artist with no artistic direction designed to sell records and notch in as many number 1's as possible. Having "artistic" videos as you put it is part of the equation to move units. PS: There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Triumphant video.
(Sunday 11 November 2012; 16:47)
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Good and bad videos (36,722)
by Carol from Spain
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I think people should stop wishing what Mariah should do and accept what she does. I strongly believe Mariah earned the right to be respected and she shouldn't follow any other artist. If Mariah made videos like Rhianna or anyone else's, it wouldn't be Mariah. Stop wishing what Mariah should do and be grateful for what she does. I'm lucky to live in a time where a genious like her and Michael Jackson live (or lived).
(Sunday 11 November 2012; 14:51)
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Videos (36,721)
by Randy from USA
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I keep saying over and over, with the music industry being what it is, no label is spending on videos what they were spending at the millenium. Albums don't sell digitally or physically due to internet sharing. MTV and VH1 maybe play 12 videos a day. There's no money for it. MC is not a video artist, she is a singer.
(Sunday 11 November 2012; 14:04)
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