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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,891) (100,897)
by The Real Deal from USA
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I would add:
1) Fourth Of July 2) Whenever You Call 3) Bliss 4) After Tonight
(Thursday 4 August 2022; 16:20)
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Mariah / Whitney singing each other's songs (100,896)
by JC from USA
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While visiting a fellow lamb in DC, we went back and forth on this topic. As much as I respect themselves as artists, I wish Mariah and Whitney covered each other in their primes. There is no way they were not singing each other's songs when they came on the radio.
What do you wish you could hear Mariah sing of Whitney's and vice versa? I'd love to hear Mariah's rendition of Just the Lonely Talking Again. I'd also love to hear Whitney crush I Don't Wanna Cry. Who cares about Jeter? They probably hung out five times, max.
(Thursday 4 August 2022; 11:22)
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,891) (100,895)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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That's a great list. Pretty sure you're right. There may be another one or two out there hidden in plain sight. She fell for him. On another note, do you think I Only Wanted was about Luis Miguel? I thought I heard that somewhere, maybe the memoir audiobook?
(Thursday 4 August 2022; 05:57)
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,888) (100,894)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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Who do we think Mariah was singing about in Memoirs, if anyone? She was still with Nick until 2016. Memoirs deserved better. H.A.T.E.U. haunts me to this day. Candy Bling.
(Thursday 4 August 2022; 05:50)
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Re: MC hurry up (100,892) (100,893)
by jaker20 from US
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Well at least you admit that Diane is being shady. She wasn't asking a question, she wants Beyonce to get dragged because apparently her work doesnt fall into what she consider to be "innovative"? Like how does that affect her exactly that she would go out of her way to complain about it. How pretentious.
(Wednesday 3 August 2022; 22:36)
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Re: MC hurry up (100,890) (100,892)
by BFF from United States
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Oh, yes. Diane needs to catch up to artists who are "pioneering" the "innovative" practice of appropriating ideas from other song rather than coming up with their own song ideas and *gasp* actually composing on piano or other live instruments! How dare Diane upset empress Beyonce's army of sheep? True innovators outsource their songwriting to committees of 24 people.
(Wednesday 3 August 2022; 21:25)
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,888) (100,891)
by Tevin from USA
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So if I'm getting this list right (we all love lists don't we lol) these are the confirmed and unconfirmed songs Mariah wrote or choose about Derek Jeter.
1. The Roof 2. My All 3. Honey 4. Babydoll 5. Against All Odds 6. Crybaby 7. Lullaby 8. We Belong Together (maybe not the song, but the video highlights Mariah escaping for a younger guy)
Am I missing anything??
(Wednesday 3 August 2022; 21:07)
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Re: MC hurry up (100,882) (100,890)
by jaker20 from US
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Dianne Warren wasn't "simply asking", she was being shady. She is also out of touch and stuck in the past, sampling is a reality of the current musical landscape. Mariah herself samples. Maybe not to the same extent as Beyonce but she does.
(Wednesday 3 August 2022; 18:17)
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,881) (100,889)
by bliss! from Brazil
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It must have been at the P. Diddy's birthday party. She was wearing the red dress and was all over Derek, but he didn't seem to be reciprocating. She came with another guy, a model. And there are pictures of her with teary eyes, so I guess something must've happened between them.
(Wednesday 3 August 2022; 13:42)
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,878) (100,888)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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Mariah and Derek met again, after their break up, at Sean Diddy's birthday party in the end of 1998. The one where Mariah wore red dress. However, I read before that Mariah and Derek did meet again in a club in 2001 after Mariah's infamous breakdown. I guess that's where the inspiration for Lullaby came from.
"Hey boy, what's going on" "Thanks I'm doing okay" "Don't believe rumors hey" "How's your family, please say hello for me" "Guess we've both grown up a bit" "But I have to admit"
I wonder why Mariah and Derek didn't pursue their relationship again after they met. It could have been a different adventure (or emancipation) for her album in 2002/2003.
(Wednesday 3 August 2022; 01:35)
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Re: #Butterfly25 (100,880) (100,887)
by Stacey from USA
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VHS? You millennials missed out on the good ole days.
(Wednesday 3 August 2022; 00:12)
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,884) (100,886)
by Stacey from USA
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Well true. Mariah did cover the song made famous by Phil Collins. But we all know MC chooses cover songs as meticulously as her own songs she writes. Crybaby is for sure about Derek. Such a great song.
(Wednesday 3 August 2022; 00:11)
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,884) (100,885)
by Bobby A from United States
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Right. I guess I should have said that MC was singing it about Derek. Especially the lyric, "You are the only one who really knew me at all."
(Tuesday 2 August 2022; 22:49)
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,881) (100,884)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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Against all Odds is not about Derek, it’s a cover song. Crybaby was definitely about Derek.
(Tuesday 2 August 2022; 21:47)
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,881) (100,883)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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Rainbow is cute but Memoirs' lyrics and melodies are unmatched. Mariah was mad mad when she wrote and recorded Memoirs.
(Tuesday 2 August 2022; 21:45)
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Re: MC hurry up (100,869) (100,882)
by BFF from United States
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And now we have the BeyHive big mad because Diane Warren asked a simple question: "How do you have 24 writers on one song?" This question pretty much summarizes my opinion of most of Beyonce's musical output. If you have to borrow this much from other people, why not just release an album of cover songs?
(Tuesday 2 August 2022; 20:09)
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,878) (100,881)
by Bobby A from United States
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What about Rainbow? MC lost Derek. Against All Odds and Crybaby are definitely about their break-up. Also, I really think MC wrote X-Girlfriend about herself. A Derek Jeter biographer wrote that before they officially broke up, Derek and MC ended up at the same party together. The author said that MC was trying to get too close to Derek and he told MC to get away from him. He called her crazy and really hurt MC's feelings.
(Tuesday 2 August 2022; 19:30)
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Re: #Butterfly25 (100,876) (100,880)
by Edward from USA
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Hopelessly Devoted is a song I wished Mariah had covered in her prime. I do love that song so much. By the way, what is a VHS?
(Tuesday 2 August 2022; 18:04)
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My favorite MC albums (in no particular order) (100,879)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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Butterfly, Glitter, Charmbracelet, Emancipation of Mimi (Deluxe), Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel. The last one will always have a special place in my heart. It's pure genius, I don't care what some of y'all say on here about that one. I respect all opinions, except bashing my girl on here.
(Tuesday 2 August 2022; 04:00)
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Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,878)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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All these songs hit differently when you lose a loved one. This is Mariah's breakup album.
(Tuesday 2 August 2022; 03:54)
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Re:#Butterfly25 (100,870) (100,877)
by BFF from United States
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I'm definitely against any re-recordings of tracks from the "Butterfly" album. No need to mess with perfection.
Before the MC#30 campaign, I would have advocated for a "Deluxe Version" release of the album with remixes and alternate versions like Fly Away (Butterfly Reprise) (Def B' Fly Mix) or The Roof (Morales Funky Club Mix) or even including the extended "remix" versions of Honey (Bad Boy), Breakdown (Mo Thugs), and The Roof (Mobb Deep). The guest features worked well on those songs and probably should have been the "album" versions.
But releasing a "Deluxe" version would be kind of pointless now with all of the EPs available on Apple Music. I wouldn't mind a full-length concert release of one of the tour stops from the "Butterfly" Tour. But I'm not sure there's much of anything from this era that would be a big surprise if released.
(Monday 1 August 2022; 22:37)
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Re: #Butterfly25 (100,875) (100,876)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Yes, nice list. "Hopelessly Devoted to You with ONJ." How I love this song. When it was realesed (I have it on VHS) lol I watched it over and over again. They were both so sweet, and Mariah was so classy while sexy and just fun. Great duet.
(Monday 1 August 2022; 17:57)
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Re: #Butterfly25 (100,874) (100,875)
by Bill from the UK
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Nice list. I'd add Head Over Heels (Allure) as well. I'd bet the farm recorded a demo for them, as the vocal arrangements and layers are so her. I can just hear her singing it, and think it'd be a good addition to Butterfly. My only other wish is for the Butterfly tour to be DVD'd. Around The World cut half the songs in half, I'd love a full length version of Hopelessly Devoted to You with ONJ.
(Monday 1 August 2022; 15:45)
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Re: #Butterfly25 (100,858) (100,874)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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What I wish for: 1. Last Chance (I always have a feeling that this song is for Butterfly album but she gave it away to Allure) 2. Honey live at Top Of The Pop on her YouTube channel. 3. Saturday Night Live performances of Butterfly and My All on her YouTube channel. 4. Butterfly live at David Letterman on her YouTube channel. 5. My All and Close My Eyes at Rosie Show on her YouTube channel. 6. Tokyo Dome 1998 concert on her YouTube channel. 7. Unreleased Butterfly tour concert. 8. Behind the scenes of all the music videos from Butterfly album. 9. Butterfly unplugged/acoustic intimate concert. Just Mariah and a piano/guitar. 5 to 7 songs from Butterfly album. Post it on her YouTube channel. 10. My All from Wango 1998 (the Hero performance was released before but very short, so definitely My All was recorded too)
(Monday 1 August 2022; 11:23)
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Re:#Butterfly25 (100,870) (100,873)
by Stacey from USA
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You had me in your corner right up until the end, lol. But I agree, leave Butterfly alone. It's such an iconic album, era, etc. She did rerecord The Roof with Brandy as part of Master-class. Fine. But don't do anything more.
(Monday 1 August 2022; 08:10)
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