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Re: WBT Valentine's mix (97,399) (97,406) by HoneyLamb from Germany When you listen to the stems of her songs you can hear that her vocals are stitched together from different sessions. In the studio she can record a short sequence where she is belting without issues. This is then stitched together with another recorded belting from another session. I'd say she never sings a single verse or chorus in one breath in the studio anymore. Not speaking about that it's almost impossible for her to do it live (all these Corona Home Studio Sessions sounded really painful). A very good (or bad) example is One More Try. The whole song sounds horrible to me because it's one short recorded snippet after another. This makes it sound very incoherent. An early example is Through The Rain where you can clearly hear the pieces that were glued together (a very unclean processing, many glitches where words start very rough). I don't want to ruin the party, just want to let you know how it has been since at least Charmbracelet. It sometimes comes across as the emperor's (empress') new clothes how people praise her voice and performances in the last 10 years, like her recent WBT performance or release. It's again just another pre-recorded, auto-tuned car crash. I feel like Caution and especially Rarities have been very good closing chapters of my life long fandom starting in 1994. I will always enjoy her recordings, please don't get me wrong, I love most of her catalogue, Daydream will always have a special place in my heart, but I was not able to enjoy any pseudo-live performance since E=MC2 and grew tired of her overly-processed vocals. Here's the link to the dry lead vocals of OMT, where you can hear all these different parts from different sessions glued and mixed together. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 19:58)

Re: WBT Valentine's mix (97,398) (97,405) by Edward from USA Andrew, only those lacking Qtips in their homes could debate that. I have made my peace with it. I actually thought the pandemic had restored her voice to some above decent state, but it's evident the damage is beyond vocal coaches and humidifiers. At this point, it is what it is. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 16:25)

Re: Last Night a DJ Saved My Life - songs about Derek (97,397) (97,404) by RibbonB from USA But "Damizzrsble" thinks those songs are about him. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 16:21)

Re: WBT Valentine's mix (97,399) (97,403) by Shezz from Pk To be honest I still want to believe the following: she feels more comfortable and is under no stress or pressure in the studio of being watched and heard by everybody and can loosen up a bit and go for it. And, if she fails, she can try again and again until she gets it right. In a live performance, she is too damn scared to not nail it on the one shot she has to go for it, so instead of being ballsy and going for it and risking utter humiliation of sounding like a screeching cat, she plays safe and goes for the backing track. Try as she may, she is not confident about what's going to come out of her throat. Yes she can't do the vocal acrobatics anymore in the studio and her voice is no longer the same but she can still sing a bit. Just my theory - I could be wrong and she could totally be using a Stephen Hawking like voice device but I think that's less likely. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 16:20)

Re: Songs Mariah never lip synchs (97,401) (97,402) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Hmm... as a fan, I'm embarrased I have never seen that rendition. But give me this, Andrew, she rearly lips Hero. The parts that are lipped in that clip I belieive she has lowered in later renditions. But what about when Mariah joins other superstars on Stevie Wonder's "Signed, Cealed, Delivered" the same night, Andrew, when she hits that high note that leaves Beyoncé baffled, is that also lipped? Please say no, Andrew, because that note has given me pleasure for over a decade. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 15:35)

Re: Songs Mariah never lip synchs (97,400) (97,401) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Er, Mariah lip-syncs the climax of Hero all the time now. This is a good example - watch the "Lord knows... hold on... the way..." parts. It uses backing track that can be heard identically on other renditions. But before that's even needed it's completely obvious that the sounds aren't coming out of her mouth. Sorry, boo. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 15:16)

Songs Mariah never lip synchs (97,400) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway There are two songs Mariah never lip synchs, Vision of Love and Hero. She can sing those songs without lip synching and they still sound nice, and the performances are usually pretty emotional and the audience usually respond very positivley. Why can't Mariah arrange her other songs in that way that she can actually sing them live? It's much more satisfactory to hear Mariah sing a song completly live. A partly lip synched song always seems a little fake. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 14:49)

Re: WBT Valentine's mix (97,398) (97,399) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I completly agree with you, Andrew. But it's not just the case with WBT, she hasn't belted the high notes live since 1998. Has anybody here heard Heartbreaker hight notes live ever? What about TTR? All the high notes of the Charmbracelet songs where lipped during the Charmbracelet World Tour. I actually can't remember a live performance after 1999 where the hight notes aren't lip synched. Strangley, during the E=MC era, she actually sang the high notes on TMB and IBLYLT live on several occasions, and that was during a time her voice almost sounded damaged. How come Mariah is capable of reaching the high notes in the studio? Can somebody please explain this to me? (Thursday 18 February 2021; 14:31)

Re: WBT Valentine's mix (97,389) (97,398) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Is it fair to say - will everybody agree - that Mariah can no longer sing live well without the use of smoke and mirrors? She is more often than not out of tune, has breathing difficulty, has extremely restricted range, cannot transition well, requires lip sync for anything not of ease to the average singer and sounds bad sometimes. If everyone just accepts this as axiomatic then I won't have to rage against stupidity/lies, we get to defcon 2 and my doctor is in Aruba sipping sangria. I agree, and have always argued, that she should record songs she can actually reproduce live lest anybody be cheated. The reworking of WBT could have avoided the high screech octave jump in favour of a normal singing pattern with resonance and depth. But nope. WBT has never ever been reproduced live in its entirety. Even to this day. Yet I still liked it because she looked amazing. I'm so shallow. Like there could be 100 people in a room and 99 of them don't believe in you and, oh you know how it ends. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 04:28)

Re: Last Night a DJ Saved My Life - songs about Derek (97,382) (97,397) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia We Belong Together, Mine Again, I Wish You Knew, Circles, Don't Forget About Us are all about Derek Jeter. In the video of We Belong Together, the male actor Wentworth Miller was chosen due to him being biracial just like Derek. He even looks like Derek. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 01:53)

Re: Last Night a DJ Saved My Life - songs about Derek (97,394) (97,396) by Matt from Australia Of course. I think we should also add I Only Wanted to round out the trilogy with My All and After Tonight. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 01:13)

WBT Mimi's Late Night Valentine's Mix extended (97,395) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa Wow. To take a masterpiece and expand on it is bold. But to do it and have it sound like it should actually be the original is almost unheard of (from my listening experiences at least). It's as if the song has a new meaning to her now and she translated it into a brand new piece. I love it so so much. The last 2.5 minutes are absolutely incredible and it tells a whole story with just sounds and adlibs. The piano is so powerful. The final minute in is just stunningly mesmerizing. I felt like I was listening to her in a jazz bar. I am so here for an album of her favorite MC tracks reimagined. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 00:57)

Re: Last Night a DJ Saved My Life - songs about Derek (97,382) (97,394) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa I think Giving Me Life is the 3rd installment of The Roof/ Lullaby/ GML trilogy. I'm going to make this playlist, thank you. (Thursday 18 February 2021; 00:09)

Re: You're Mine late Night Valentine Mix (97,385) (97,393) by John john from UK Love both versions, cannot believe it's available on iTunes. Very happy lamb today. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 19:59)

Mimi's Valentines Day mix (extended) (97,392) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I mentioned that I enjoyed the performance on Kelly, and Ryan. This extended mix is just an extra treat for me. Thank you Mariah once again for all the great musical gifts that you have been blessing us with I am truly grateful. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 19:42)

MC Tunecore distribution (97,391) by The Real Deal from USA I noticed that WBT Late Night Mix is distributed through Tunecore. Does this mean that she is an independent artist now, releasing music on her own, going forward? Sony does not use Tunecore to distribute their music. Tunecore is an independent artist distribution site. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 19:35)

Re: WBT Mimi's Late Night Valentine's Mix (extended) (97,387) (97,390) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I just appreciate her creative direction with it. After being served so many no-mixes in the last decade I have pretty much accepted that she no longer has it in her to make a decent remix. This time though, she actually managed to bring something interesting to an overly familiar track. A little on the indulgent side with the length, and it does threaten to overstay its welcome a few times, but these extended mixes from her are rarely slow, so I guess that adds to the appeal. As for her voice, the cutting and pasting of different takes seems to really become more obvious as she ages, no? She still sounds fine, but the razor sharp edge her voice has acquired with time is more worrying than pleasant. I can see how her flitting in, out and between different registers is more jarring than usual, but it seems like this is yet another installment in her vocal evolution. Droplet singles since 2014 have shown this happening. Caution cemented it. She seems to be doing the best with what she currently has. Now if only she can do them live. Her musical instincts, especially when it comes to her melodic choices and improvisations, are stil very much intact, even if her instrument isn't as up for the challenges as it was even a decade ago. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 19:18)

WBT Valentine's mix (97,389) by Lee from UK I enjoyed the new arrangement but you can't convince me any of that was performed live. You can even hear the auto tune in several places. My wish for Mariah's next album is that she would record songs she can sing live. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 18:41)

Re: Raindream? (97,359) (97,388) by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago Does anyone maybe think the dark hair, the all black, covered up and clunky black shoes with metal studs seems like it's a rock and roll vibe? Maybe the Ugly Daughter era ironically - because she looks anything but. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 17:47)

Re: WBT Mimi's Late Night Valentine's Mix (extended) (97,381) (97,387) by Andrew from the United Kingdom It’s okay. I find it quite unsettling. The music lends itself to lounge relaxation but her voice jumping from low scratch to belt to soft head to high whistle every other line puts me on edge. But I can see why the extended mix is liked. In other news, Mariah has musicians with her? I may be wrong but until recently she did not. If this is a new turn of events they are likely with her to record new material, one would think. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 14:33)

Re: Last Night a DJ Saved My Life - songs about Derek (97,382) (97,386) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Derek Jeter being the DJ in Last Night a DJ Saved My Life is brilliant fan theory haha. Maybe that's why she chose it. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 14:20)

You’re Mine late Night Valentine Mix (97,385) by T from USA You're Mine Eternal would sound amazing with a mini late night Valentine mix. Wasn't there an extended version originally? That song would sound so groovy and fresh in this this atmosphere. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 14:03)

Mimi's mix WBT (97,384) by Brad from USA The 7 minute version is life. Thanks for this delectable treat, MC. It's wondrous. Everyone be safe and well. Wear 2 masks. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 07:24)

Re: WBT Mimi's Late Night Valentine's Mix (extended) (97,381) (97,383) by Bobby A from United States I just heard it. The improvising is amazing. Mimi reminds [me] of Phyllis Hyman in 1987. (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 02:41)

Last Night a DJ Saved My Life - songs about Derek (97,382) by Matt from Australia The definitive collection: 1. Honey 2. My All 3. The Roof (Back in Time) 4. Fourth of July 5. Breakdown 6. Babydoll 7. The Beautiful Ones (cover) 8. Heartbreaker 9. After Tonight 10. Vulnerability (interlude) 11. Crybaby 12. Did I Do That? 13. Last Night a DJ Saved My Life (cover) 14. Lullaby 15. Subtle Invitation What did I miss or am dead wrong about? (Wednesday 17 February 2021; 02:29)

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