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Dreamlover (93,060)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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Check the credits, it was produced by Dave Jam Hall.
I stand corrected. They all 3 share producer credit. I have to say the hip pop balance in the production works very well. Big Daddy Kane was major in the late 80's/early 90's in hip hop, the sample of his song ain't no half stepping was definitely Mariah and Dave while Walter brought the more pop feel and sound.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 22:59)
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Re: Daydream anniversary (93,050) (93,059)
by cBerr from Canada
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Bill that is most definitely a "go big or go home" line-up. I do like how you went all out with the remixes. Also, I can't believe I completely overlooked the MSG concert in HD. I'm sure they have the masters to "Make It Happen".
You could actually call it Daydream (Deluxe "[censored] the Grammys" Edition) lol.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 22:52)
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Re: Dreamlover (93,054) (93,058)
by cBerr from Canada
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Yes, I've also heard that the Bam Jam Soul was the original concept for Dreamlover but the "powers that be" tapped Walter to give it a pop makeover. I'd like to be mad about it, but both versions have their merits - and I'm only about 75% confident that during the early 90's the Bam Jam Soul (or original version) would have been a #1 hit.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 22:45)
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Re: Slipping Away on IG (93,045) (93,057)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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I have a list; all the times I have seen Mariah Carey in person:
Rainbow Tour, London 2000 Dorchester Hotel, Glitter/Greatest Hits era G-A-Y, London 2002 (think that's when it was) So Graham Norton Show, London 2003 Charmbracelet Tour, London 2003 Dorchester Hotel, TEOM era* Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour, London 2016 All I Want For Christmas Is You Tour, 2017
*Fun fact. I felt really unwell waiting for her that night. And we had to go to queue up through the night for entry into HMV the next afternoon to meet Mariah and have CD's signed. It was dark and rainy and the line was massive but nothing was going to stop me meeting her one-on-one. So I waited, for hours in the dark... and felt increasingly unwell. And I almost made it. I really did. Until around 8am someone called an ambulance and I was carted off to hospital and diagnosed with meningitis and told I was a couple of hours away from death.
So there's a fun story. Either you're thinking "Wow, he really does love Mariah." Or you're thinking, "If only that guy hadn't called that ambulance..."
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 20:38)
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Re: Daydream anniversary (93,050) (93,056)
by TJ from Norway
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Love the dvds.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 20:07)
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Re: Slipping Away on IG (93,045) (93,055)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Only someone on this board would have a list of the best days of their life.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 20:04)
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Re: Dreamlover (93,053) (93,054)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes but Walter produced it and was specifically bought in to give it the gloss and much needed sheen the original was lacking.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 18:40)
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Dreamlover (93,053)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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Dreamlover was a collaboration with Dave Jam Hall not Walter. Dave is also the co producer of Fantasy as well as Slipping Away.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 17:51)
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Re: Random song (93,048) (93,052)
by Susana from USA
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Me too. I think it's one of those songs that gets stuck in your head. I will be humming Alone in Love in Costco, lol.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 16:25)
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Re: Slipping Away on IG (93,040) (93,051)
by Bill from the UK
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I heard the Bam Jam Soul version was from the original mixing session (along with the Club Joint Mix), and that was what Dreamlover was originally conceived as. It didn't fit with the album and was a standalone track, so Walter came in to turn it into what we know now.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 15:41)
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Re: Daydream anniversary (93,042) (93,050)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes. Although my deluxe would be overkill.
Disc one: 1-12: Original album (re-mastered)
Disc two: 1. Fantasy (Radio Mix) 2. Fantasy (Bad Boy Fantasy) 3. Fantasy (Bad Boy with ODB) 4. Fantasy (Bad Boy Mix) 5. Fantasy (Def Club Mix) 6. Fantasy (MC Mix) 7. Fantasy (Puffy's Mix) 8. Fantasy (Puffy's Club Mix) 9. Fantasy (The Boss Mix) 10. Fantasy (Sweet Dub Mix) 11. Fantasy (Def Drums Mix)
Disc three: 1. One Sweet Day (A Cappella) 2. One Sweet Day (Sweet A Cappella) 3. One Sweet Day (Chucky's Remix) 5. One Sweet Day (Live) 6. Underneath the Stars (Drifting Remix) 7. Underneath the Stars (Drifting Remix without Rap) 8. El Amor Que Sone 9. Slipping Away 10. Just Be Good to Me (Live) 11. The Crave Song 12. Looking In (Opening coos version)
Disc four: 1. Always Be My Baby (Mr. Dupri Mix) 2. Always Be My Baby (Mr. Dupri Extended Mix) 3. Always Be My Baby (Mr. Dupri No Rap Radio Mix) 4. Always Be My Baby (Reggae Soul Mix) 5. Always Be My Baby (Reggae Soul Dub) 6. Always Be My Baby (Reggae Soul A Cappella) 7. Always Be My Baby (Def Classic Radio Version) 8. Always Be My Baby (Always Club) 9. Always Be My Baby (Dub A Baby) 10. Always Be My Baby (Groove A Pella) 11. Always Be My Baby (ST Dub)
DVD one: Tokyo Dome concert in HD
DVD two: Rotterdam concert in HD
DVD three: 1. Fantasy video 2. Fantasy remix video 3. One Sweet Day video 4. Open Arms video 6. Always Be My Baby video 7. Always Be My Baby remix video 8. Forever video 9. El Amor Que Sone video 10. Underneath the Stars video
DVD four: MSG concert in HD
If you're gonna do a deluxe, go all out. That's my motto.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 15:40)
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Re: Slipping Away on IG (93,045) (93,049)
by enwar00 from usa
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I can't.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 15:14)
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Random song (93,048)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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The random song for me at the moment is Alone In Love for some reason I woke singing a few bars of this song and I have no idea why but I guess it was meant to be.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 13:52)
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Re: #Beautiful should have been the 19th (93,046) (93,047)
by Tijl from Belgium
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I quite liked the performance at the BET awards. She radiated a Marilyn Monroe-esque vibe that night. A shame it was mimed but this can be a requirement made by the production of the show.
#Beautiful needed a vintage looking video to accompany the feel of the song. She indeed looked gorgeous but those scenes on the bike are a bit too porno for my taste. Sometimes, less is a lot more.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 12:52)
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Re: #Beautiful should have been the 19th (93,043) (93,046)
by Dove from United States
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I think the video had a part in it not doing as well as it should have. I remember I posted it (the video) on Facebook when it came out and people were focusing more on how it looked like she was "trying too hard" to stay young and sexy over how good the song was. Then she had super not-good televised performances that era. Like the one where she's wearing the gorgeous gown with mirrors behind her and it's super obvious she's miming #Beautiful with the Jeezy remix intro. Then the one with the ill fitting dress on top of a piano where she's singing You're Mine (Eternal). The songs are perfect, performances and videos not as flawless.
I just watched this again and it's actually not as terrible as I remember it. The dress is actually not as ill-fitting as I remember it either. I think it would have worked better if it was just her singing live with the piano instead of them pretending over the pre-recorded backing track. Like Billie Eilish and her brother at the Grammys vibe.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 10:03)
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Re: Slipping Away on IG (93,033) (93,045)
by Bill from the UK
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Funny you should say that. I don't think I've ever mentioned it but I was at London Wembley Arena in 1996 and it was one of my top ten best days of my entire life.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 06:56)
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Re: #Beautiful should have been the 19th (93,038) (93,044)
by Bill from the UK
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I think it was the lack of a bridge or key change. It started off great but was then just the same line over and over until the end, like they have up halfway.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 06:55)
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Re: #Beautiful should have been the 19th (93,027) (93,043)
by Aliya from Canada
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I think that knowing the kind of crap they play on the radio today, #Beautiful could have been a 19th number 1 just because they don't play good music on the radios nowadays. #Beautiful is not one of Mariah's best songs, but I still think it could have been bigger. It was short and sweet, even though it was not up to the higher standard we are used to by her.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 03:42)
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Daydream anniversary (93,042)
by cBerr from Canada
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Mariah's recent #justiceforslippingaway post got me thinking about what I would like to see on a special release of Daydream (which is the direction I hope she's taking given the recent love shown for "Slipping Away").
Disc One 01. Fantasy 02. Underneath The Stars 03. One Sweet Day 04. Open Arms 05. ABMB 06. I Am Free 07. When I Saw You 08. Long Ago 09. Melt Away 10. Forever 11. Daydream Interlude 12. Looking In 13. Slipping Away 14. "The Crave Song"
Disc Two 01. Fantasy (Radio Mix) (from AUS single) 02. Fantasy (The Boss Mix) 03. ABMB (Def Classic Radio Mix) 04. ABMB (Always Club Mix) 05. ABMB (ST Dub) 06. Looking In (HaNi Remix) 07. One Sweet Day (Chucky's Remix) 08. Underneath The Stars (Drifting Remix) 09. Underneath The Stars (Drifting Remix w/o Rap)
Deluxe Packaging 01. Daydream Tour Audio - European date 02. DVD/BluRay (best quality - even if Tokyo, but ideally Rotterdam) Bonus: If an Underneath The Stars music video exists, they are obligated to include it.
If this deluxe package ever saw the light of day I would... well let's not get into it.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 03:16)
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Random songs (93,041)
by Will from Australia
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I woke up wide awake at 2am last night and Bliss started playing in my head, specifically the whistle section. The mad thing is that I've never been a fan of the song, but then maybe subconsciously I have been.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 02:55)
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Re: Slipping Away on IG (93,036) (93,040)
by cBerr from Canada
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There are also 2 versions of Dreamlover that appear on a 4-trk Promo CD (CSK 5450).
Bam Jam Soul - 4:25 Def Club Mix Edit - 4:03
Bam Jam Soul is an excellent reworking IMO.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 02:32)
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Re: Non-single favourites (93,037) (93,039)
by Edward from USA
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I thought it was only me who thought that way.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 01:54)
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Re: #Beautiful should have been the 19th (93,034) (93,038)
by Edward from USA
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Simply put, #Beautiful is too short, like there's something missing. I love the song, it had great potential, but there was something lacking.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 01:24)
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Re: Non-single favourites (93,030) (93,037)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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Whenever You Call The Brian McKnight version. It is gorgeous. Vocal and lyrical perfection.
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 01:18)
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Re: Slipping Away on IG (93,033) (93,036)
by Bobby A from United States
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I wish Slipping Away was released on the B-side of the ABMB 12inch. I would love for MC to release all of her Columbia B-sides, bonus tracks, and Do You Know Where You Are Going To on a special vinyl EP. There are only about 5 songs that I am referencing, right? 1. Everything Fades Away 2. Do You Think Of Me 3. Slipping Away 4. Do You Know Where You Are Going To 5. Dreamlover (Club Joint Remix)
(Tuesday 25 February 2020; 00:48)
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