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Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,902) (92,911) by B from USA
The people I referred to aren't members of this board. as for the self-professed lambs, that's a dig at posers who claim to be lambs but have complained about everything Mariah's done since 2013.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 22:46)
Re: To Webmaster: link is not working (92,895) (92,910) by Terna from Nigeria
Thanks for the link. She sounds better than she did on the Caution tour actually. It was a safe performance because we've all seen her tear up this song live many times. The best part was the end when they improvised with each other's names.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 22:15)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,908) (92,909) by Will from Australia
Honestly I reckon Mariah over sang during the Daydream tour and strained her vocals beyond repair. I'll never forget my first listen of the Butterfly album and how sad I felt at listening to her tone, especially Butterfly. Even Whenever You Call which floored me had me giving side eyes to parts of her phrasing etc. I still thought she was in a league of her own but something had changed and drastically. Then when she sang Butterly live in promotions, oh dear. Comparing that to Hero at the Tokyo Dome only 12 months or so prior, just sad.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 22:02)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,905) (92,908) by Bill from the UK
Great message, you spoke the truth, and it was brave to post. I believe only a real fan could write something like that, so I for one would never question your intentions or sincerity.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 20:32)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,905) (92,907) by Bobby A from United States
I have to admit she did struggle on a lot of the songs to sing the notes. Now, I am really starting to believe that most of the Christmas show performances were lipped. Maybe MC should focus on her acting career for awhile. Her live performances are getting painful to watch, her struggle with so many of her songs that she use to be able sing with such ease and agility. Kuk Harrell should be hired to her bring her voice back to where it was post-Charmbraclet era. March is really going to be interesting to see if she post pics of her in the studio or vacationing in the Bahamas.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 20:29)
Mariah's memoir co writer (92,906) by RibbonB from USA
So I've heard she as a talented trustworthy co writer for her memoir. I wonder if it might be Karen Hunter. She's a New York Times bestselling author of several hip hop related biographies for LL, Latifah, Superhead and Wendy Williams. I mean if she's going to put a book out, I hope it's a good one.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 18:52)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,886) (92,905) by John from USA
I saw an interview from when Mariah was just starting about how her voice and music lifted her from a life of poverty (I'm paraphrasing, of course), and how much she considers it a gift and respects it. I was afraid to say this, for fear of getting scolded or my being a fan questioned, but I think Mariah has lost all care and respect for that very gift. She is touring for money's sake, and all that unhealthy shouty singing is not going to help her voice recover. Honestly even at its current state, there are still many voice coaches that say she can still recover a lot of her voice quality - maybe not the full range - if she decides to take care of her voice.

Mariah was a natural singer - emphasis on the "was" because she no longer is. Not to minimize the vocal training she got from her mother, but I think she, like other natural singers (and dancers for that matter), just knew how to sing from the get go. As her voice got worse, compensatory bad habits arose, and she "forgot" how to sing properly. She needs to go see her voice doctor (an ENT likely), go seek a good vocal coach, relearn how to sing with proper technique. Needless to say, if she really still treasured and respected this gift, she would stop the alcohol, the smoking, and get enough sleep.

She has amassed this massive fortune. Instead of relying on touring to maintain her extravagant lifestyle, she should invest her hard-earned money on businesses and stocks instead of shouting her voice to oblivion.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 18:24)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,903) (92,904) by Bobby A from United States
While she is resting her voice, she should go ahead and release the box set for the Def Jam and Epic years. I am sure it would sell at least 500,000 copies if we got all of the left over tracks and remixes from 2002-2018. I would love to hear the songs that didn't make CB, TEOM, EMC2, MOIA, MIAM, and Caution. Nicely packaged as a Target Exclusive would hold us over until 2022. Save the Columbia years until after she retires from the music industry.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 17:03)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,896) (92,903) by Bill from the UK
I have my suspicions about the Daydream tour though. There are some clear playback parts in Tokyo and when listening to the (awful) recordings of the European dates, some notes and ad libs are exactly the same every single night. So I do question whether she truly flat out sang 15 of her songs back to back in one evening with zero support. I think it's just her voice was on par with the playback back then so it was hard to detect. Whereas now we get a barked one note in speaking range "eh" followed by a multi octave run of "it's a chance I've got to taa-ee-yaa-aaaaa-eee-aaaaa-aaaa-eeee-yaaaaakeee" where it's clearly lipped.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 16:17)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,897) (92,902) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
"Self-professed lambs"

What other type of lambs are there? Annointed ones? Lmao is there a Grand High Shepherd and some sort of ceremony? Does Mariah observe everyone having an MC written across their forehead in Tommy Mottola's blood?

"Funny how people are talking about how good she sounded"

On a few songs, yes. But the inference would be that on everything else... not so much.

Better, sometimes, to just take the win and keep a lid on it, Brandon.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 14:24)
Re: To Die For - Sam Smith (92,891) (92,901) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Chin up, mate. You'll find someone eventually. But best not to listen to songs like To Die For around St Valentine's Day. Listen to Fantasy or something like that.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 09:38)
Valentine's Day 2020 (92,900) by Dove from United States
I love the pink glittery dress the most and need a Mariah Barbie in it ASAP. With a gold mic and gold glitter earpiece accessories. It would have been better if she wore it for a slow song where she just stands in front of the mic though. Knee length would have been better for moving around.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 08:29)
Re: ASCAP (92,839) (92,899) by Nikki from usa
I wish I could remember the source, but I recall her having a 3 album deal. She's only put out 1 album of new music. A compilation of old hits doesn't constitute an "album" by label standards. She still owes them 2 more and no one really knows about the terms of the renegotiated deal or if it went through. She currently doesn't have her own label.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 05:50)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,886) (92,898) by Nikki from usa
It's not a bad idea, unfortunately until that contract is up she's legally obliged to be there. Mariah's touring/residency schedule doesn't provide her enough time to do all the things she needs to do to care for her voice. When she did the Daydream tour she only did 1 concert per week. That was at her prime and her youth. It goes to show just how much a concert takes a toll on her voice. Now, she's singing back to back shows then taking one day off before she's back again. She's supposed to have 2 days off between concerts as a minimum.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 05:41)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,886) (92,897) by B from USA
Funny how people are talking about how good she sounded and yet self-professed lambs think she sounded so bad that she should stop performing.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 03:19)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,886) (92,896) by Randy from USA
You know what scares me the most? Every artist loses their voice. Alicia Keys, Christina Aguilera, and Celine Dion have lost quite a few notes off of the top of their range. They can't ad-lib the full voice belts they used to. But they all can still sing their verses. MC struggles through verses and has been for the last decade in my opinion. And yet she recorded two albums with verses and notes she had no hope of replicating live. Why put yourself in this situation? Why not record songs in the key of Right To Dream and Help Me Make It Through The Night? What trips me out is that MC is touring to make money. No one buys records. Why can't she cut back on her lifestyle? Does she need more than one house? More than one car? A stylist, make up artist, umbrella holder, driver, nannies? She's turning 50 next month and no I don't want her out to pasture or to retire. But if she keeps going she will not be able to sing at all. Note Aretha, Gladys and Patti still perform(ed) in their 70s. They sound OK. Dionne sounds an old tired mess. I fear MC will sound worse. That's my greatest fear. And for the last time MCs voice hasn't just started to fray. I beg of you watch the 1996 concert Daydream in Tokyo. Perfection. Now watch her performances in 1997 and 1998. It went bad really fast. She started this lip syncing shit in 1999 during the promotional tour for Rainbow. Something happened. That's why we want her to address it. More than nodules and more than Tommy having her locked up in Sing-Sing.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 02:22)
To Webmaster: link is not working (92,895) by Malcolm from Asia
Hi Webmaster, I think the link is not working. Here is the right link.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 01:51)
Re: Back in Vegas (92,889) (92,894) by Susana from USA
Error with link. I too thinks she still has it.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 01:24)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,886) (92,893) by Aliya from Canada
I agree with you. People like JLo get praised for their dancing, and less for the singing. I say, I want Mariah to do more of the singing, but still incorporate some dancing and moving around. I think I wouldn't complain if she moved more.

Have any of you seen that Family Guy episode where they made fun of her for not moving? I don't want people to talk about her that way. She is the best singer of all time.
(Monday 17 February 2020; 00:58)
Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,886) (92,892) by Bobby A from United States
We probably won't get a new album this year because MC needs to rest her voice. And plus too many long overdue albums are coming this year from Sam Smith (May), Sza, Drake, Adele (September), and Rihanna that will overshadow MC's new album. Is it just me who has noticed that MC never seems relaxed when she sings in front of a Vegas crowd?
(Monday 17 February 2020; 00:39)
To Die For - Sam Smith (92,891) by Bobby A from United States
This song makes me want to cry. I am right here clinging on to every word in the song. He is singing about my life right now. I just want somebody to die for. Sam Smith did it on this song. By the way, anybody heard the rumour this weekend that Mariah will be on his new album in May?
(Monday 17 February 2020; 00:07)
Don't Forget About Us (92,890) by RibbonB from USA
Squeeeee, so I was just leaving Wal-Mart after a simple Sunday shopping spree, when I heard DFAU on the radio. It's been so long since I've heard that song or any Mimi song on the radio, so I was so excited. The radio popped on soon as I started my car and the song was midstream, so I screamed. Mimi singing one of my faves. The staccato that that is, the superb self-harmonizing that that is, the sentiment that that is. Saaaang Mimi. I just had to sing some Mariah praises this Sunday.
(Sunday 16 February 2020; 23:42)
Back in Vegas (92,889) by Malcolm from Asia
If this is not a testament that Mariah can still sing (and I'm not saying "sing" as in just like in her prime), I don't what is. With her current situation right now which is far more fine compared to 2014-2017, I'm just appreciating that she's trying and it's evident.
(Sunday 16 February 2020; 22:43)
Re: Bill (92,877) (92,888) by Geronimo from USA
Andrew, you sound like an incredulous and badly divorced man talking trash to people who still love your ex, saying, "Man, you just don't know her like I do."
(Sunday 16 February 2020; 19:16)
Endless Love (92,887) by Aliya from Canada
I agree, her performance of Endless Love was great.
(Sunday 16 February 2020; 17:34)

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