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Re: St John the Divine (91,244) (91,253) by Bill from the UK
Nothing in Edward's message warranted such a mean spirited response as that Terna.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 18:48)
Re: St John the Divine (91,244) (91,252) by Edward from USA
I didn't argue or question anybody who liked the concert audio, it just wasn't what I was expecting in terms of quality, that's my opinion and my experience, I stated it and moved on, yet some of you couldn't move on, could you?

When there's a rule that everybody has to agree on this board, that's when I'll stop posting. But sadly for you there's not such rule, is there? My post could've been just another post, yet somebody had go on the crazy lamb attack.

PS: I know crazy when I see it, and I when I see your your face, I immediately skip your posts, yet mine seem to keep messing with your mascara, go figure whose existence is sorry.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 18:10)
Re: St John the Divine (91,250) (91,251) by Licia from USA
I agree with everything you said Deedre. I hope my response didn't come off as an attack.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 17:50)
Re: St John the Divine (91,248) (91,250) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
I had a feeling you would respond this way Licia, Edward is allowed his opinion too. It would be so nice if Mariah could release something without people lighting torches and coming for each other based on some words written on a post. I remember I didn't like I Don't at all when it came out. I said I loved the concert but don't care if others have things they don't like. I'm still going to happily love it. I loved the song Caution most people on the board described the track as generic and forgettable. Does it affect my enjoyment of the song at all? Nope. Sorry
(Monday 4 November 2019; 17:10)
Re: St John the Divine (91,248) (91,249) by B from USA
Are we really complaining that a Mariah Carey performance sounds real? I'm glad she released it as is. If I want to hear perfection, I'll listen to Merry Christmas. Nothing Mariah does (or did it seems) will ever meet their expectations.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 16:37)
Re: St John the Divine (91,240) (91,248) by Licia from USA
I haven't heard all of the songs yet. I only heard AIWFCIY. It was a bit shaky, but it still sounded good. All in all I'm happy that the people who wanted this concert in some form got it. It's a treat and I can't wait until I can finally sit and listen. If Bill likes it, then I like it.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 16:32)
Re: Rainbow at 20 (91,246) (91,247) by B from USA
Agreed. I love that the writer of this piece showed TGIFY some love. Yes, the version featuring Joe and 98 Degrees sounds dated, but when stripped of its pop veneer, it's a beautifully written love song, and that's the unvarnished truth.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 16:30)
Rainbow at 20 (91,246) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
All the odds were stacked up against Rainbow: the pressure of succeeding Mariah's magnum opus, the trend shift from R&B towards Latin, urban and teen pop, the increasingly tumultuous relationship between Mariah and her then label, her changing voice, etc. It seemed like it was bound to be doomed. But Rainbow, as tinny and inferior as it sounded especially compared to Mariah's previous releases at the time, it still performed quite well. It may be considered by most as the beginning of Mariah's decline, but anyone who really paid attention to the music released that year would know that Rainbow was actually one of the best mainstream releases that year (which wasn't as rife with modern classics as the years that came before).

In 2019, Heartbreaker and its remix still slap harder than most of today's hits, Bliss is just as ethereal and Crybaby is just as slinky as they were two decades ago, and while Can't Take That Away and Thank God I Found You are still high on the cheese factor, at least they're expensive cheese. Not bad at all for an album that's often overlooked and regarded as one of Mariah's weakest works. Happy 20, Rainbow.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 16:02)
Re: Memoirs now onto Rainbox vinyl (91,241) (91,245) by John john from UK
Did you buy it from me in the UK? If so I have more vinyls for sale coming this week
(Monday 4 November 2019; 15:43)
Re: St John the Divine (91,240) (91,244) by Terna from Nigeria
It must be a chore relating with you in real life. You are part of the trolls here even though you won't readily admit that. Must always find something to nit pick or be unsatisfied with, Why can't you just be grateful that particular performance many lambs wished for years on end, has finally seen the light of day You just have to be the negative Nancy on this message board you and your coven. And don't get me started on your wack sarcasm you seem to think is funny, I hate to break it you; it's not (all caps).

Ps: If bragging about thumbs up on your silly message is a thing to you then that just validates what RJJ said about your sorry existence in real life. Quit seeking validation online Mr.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 13:26)
Re: St John the Divine (91,230) (91,243) by Musti from UK
I agree. I really enjoyed the tracks. It felt intimate, the way she likes it. Her voice is in top shape on every song. It's always a treat to hear 90s Mariah in never-before-heard material. Sugar Plum Fairy is also great. Love the operatic moments. I'm surprised she included an acapella version. There are scratches in her whistle here and there. But it is what it is, and still sounds sweet.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 12:48)
Jesus Born On This Day (91,242) by Will from Australia
Ok can we take a minute to appreciate the extra loud kid yelling the lyrics at parts of Jesus Born On The Day. I for one am so happy they didn’t dub that down in any way, it just adds so much to the song.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 11:52)
Memoirs now onto Rainbox vinyl (91,241) by Bobby A from United States
I will have the Memoirs vinyl in my hands after Thanksgiving. I will have a DJ copy of Glitter vinyl this week in the mail. So now I am in search of the Rainbow vinyl. Is there anyone who would be willing to sell their copy or help me locate a copy? I am curious how Bliss will sound on my new Audio Technica turntable and vintage Sanyo speakers. Bliss has to be the best song Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis wrote with MC besides Yours.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 01:26)
Re: St John the Divine (91,238) (91,240) by Edward from USA
You seem to be part of a herd, I'm not. I'm an individual and have my own mother effing opinions. No matter how many times you regurgitate the same nonsense, I will keep posting my opinions, agreeing and disagreeing with whomever the f I want. You said you say things the way you see them, so do I. You conform to a group type of thinking, I don't. I like certain things, I don't like others, and will state it. I never said the concert was bad, or questioned those who loved it, it just wasn't what I was expecting, but I was as excited as the rest of us when it was announced. My post and the "thumbs -up" it has seems to have messed your nail polish, I'm not sorry. I don't have to go with the flow so you don't grow a new wrinkle.

As for the obsession you have with Andrew, you should buy yourself a blond Ken doll and play with it, and once you're done then break it apart.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 01:04)
Re: Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree Lighting (91,191) (91,239) by 123 from USA
Bill you are def not one of the three. You’re joke was not with ill intent. I thought it was funny and light hearted. We all joke within reason except the few trolls that post malicious comments wrapped up in comedy.
(Monday 4 November 2019; 00:04)
Re: St John the Divine (91,231) (91,238) by 123 from USA
I see the racist from the UK and Edward are working together again to belittle the St Johns concert audio. I'm sure the 3rd of your clique will follow predictably. Everyone except for you trolls love the audio and the fact that it wasn't dubbed to perfection gives it the live feel we all wanted but didn't expect. It's sad that you all have nothing else going on in your lives to entertain you other than posting bait for likes. I see Edwards response to the racist basically agreeing that the audio was less than amazing with all the likes proves my point.
(Sunday 3 November 2019; 23:57)
Re: St John the Divine (91,230) (91,237) by Bobby A from United States
You can tell that AIWFCIY was performed for the first time because she sounded a little nervous with the intro arrangement. We have never received that arrangement since the St. John the Divine. Overall, I think the whole 2 CD collection is a joy to have right now after 25 years.
(Sunday 3 November 2019; 23:36)
Re: St John the Divine (91,228) (91,236) by Dove from United States
I found it glorious, I love how raw it sounds. If I close my eyes it makes me feel like I'm there. I also like how the new tracks flow and feel like part of the concert. Worth my money.
(Sunday 3 November 2019; 23:25)
Re: St John the Divine (91,231) (91,235) by Salmon skin roll from Unagi
Basically what I said. Have you been posting here long?
(Sunday 3 November 2019; 20:47)
Re: Walkers commercial (91,227) (91,234) by Bill from the UK
Haha, yes this is better than what I was expecting. Mariah was brilliant, in every way. She looks a million dollars and she was great with the comedic aspect and sending herself up. I really, really hope all this publicity, the deluxe, the new video etc. help to give Mariah a new number 1 with AIWFCIY. No song has ever been more deserving, it is universally lauded and will be going strong long after we've all gone.
(Sunday 3 November 2019; 20:30)
Re: St John the Divine (91,231) (91,233) by Chicago Lamb from USA
I agree totally and was expecting re-mastered, properly mixed, dubbed versions. Had anyone known they were going to need it 25 years later, betcha they'd have produced it in line with JTTW. Here's to a 19th #1 this December, Lambs.
(Sunday 3 November 2019; 18:48)
Re: St John the Divine (91,230) (91,232) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
I agree with Bill on this one, I appreciate the concert. I enjoy hearing the adlibs and imperfections. For me the experience wouldn't be the same without them. I confide myself lucky we have this on CD at all and my physical copy arrives Monday, looking forward to the artwork and eventually the cd single. One of the reasons I can't spend the energy being upset at her for having insecurities is because I can understand how she developed them. People get upset if something sounds too edited and they get upset if it's left alone too. I'll be listening to this lots and so glad it is in her Christmas catalogue now.
(Sunday 3 November 2019; 16:54)
Re: St John the Divine (91,228) (91,231) by Edward from USA
That concert wasn't recorded with the intention of releasing it either in video or audio form, one track was and the dubbing made it perfect. It's not the same when all instruments and voice are coming together through one single channel and when the venue wasn't suited for this type of recording. I'm pretty sure people in attendance must've had, as always, a different experience, a great one.

It's obvious though that we were expecting "JTTW" type of quality, and for such anticipated release silence on the board speaks volumes. I personally won't be listening to those tracks again, I'll pretend they were not released, just like the R-Kelly and Mary J. Blige collabos. I'm not mad, I just once again set my expectations too high, but just did so because it was 90's Mariah.
(Sunday 3 November 2019; 03:00)
Re: St John the Divine (91,228) (91,230) by Bill from the UK
I will have to respectfully disagree here. The fact it isn't dubbed to within an inch of its life and is a pure and genuinely honest representation of that concert is what makes it so great. The undubbed Unplugged, MSG and others are so much better because it's not perfect. Imperfection is perfection. The new little ad libs and flourishes Mariah added were great, she was energetic and I love that Mariah put it on the deluxe as is, because no singer could do a concert like that. As was said earlier by someone, you truly do realise just how talented this woman is, and what a God given gift she has.
(Sunday 3 November 2019; 01:08)
Re: St John the Divine (91,228) (91,229) by Will from England
Scroll down a little further. Plenty of good comments on it.
(Saturday 2 November 2019; 22:46)

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