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Re: It's not just Glitter (90,772) (90,777)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I enjoyed Glitter back then. I saw it two times in cinema in 2001. It was fun and I have the DVD and I like to watch it because of the phenomenal soundtrack and the setting of the 80ies. But the movie is not like "Chicago" or "The Artist" for example. I think Mariah was pretty good in "Wise Girls". I also like the role in "Tennessee". But it's clear that MC's true talent is music and not acting. And that's fine.
(Tuesday 10 September 2019; 14:23)
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Glitter / cruel (90,776)
by Lafa from Sweden
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Glitter flopped. But we're so cruel about it. Just because the expectations are set so high.
(Tuesday 10 September 2019; 13:39)
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New favourite (90,775)
by Todd from Melbourne, Australia
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I think “Everything Fades Away” has just overtaken “Art of Letting Go” as my favourite MC song. For this week.
(Tuesday 10 September 2019; 12:30)
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Re: Let’s all watch it again to piss a goatee off (90,770) (90,774)
by Licia from USA
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Wrote 20 paragraphs full of nothing and the fact still remains that the Glitter movie was terrible and I actually paid to go see that mess. Lol. On a happier note that soundtrack is a masterpiece. I agree that was the highlight of the whole era. If it wasn't for that album I'd file Glitter under my list of things I don't talk about. Lol.
(Tuesday 10 September 2019; 03:07)
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Re: Glitter (90,773)
by Nikki from usa
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I loved Glitter - I have the movie. Janet Jackson liked the movie too. It was a small budget film and Mariah had the cast be newbies as she was. The director was known for one movie and only the villain was a seasoned actor. Nobody else acted before. I do sometimes feel like I'm watching an emperor without clothes when it comes to diva movies. Whitney, MC, and Gaga are no Meryl Streep. But, that doesn't mean they didn't do a good job. I don't see much of a difference between any of these movies. Whitney and Gaga had the most simplistic storylines. Whitney's was well produced with seasoned actors. Mostly, so was Gaga's. Except, I didn't think Gaga's romance made much sense. There was no development. They were singing and then married. There wasn't enough time to get emotionally attached before the death. MC's storyline was fine, but executed choppy and muddy. It pays to have a script written before you shoot.
Whitney injured her leading man, MC had hers killed, and Gaga had hers kill himself. My kid saw Gaga's movie before I did and she said it reminded her of Glitter and The Bodyguard. I have to agree. Yet, no one can compete against the atrocity of Gigli. It was hounded worse than Glitter, but there was no terrorist attack to keep the comics going to divert attention. Gobble, gobble.
(Tuesday 10 September 2019; 01:22)
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It's not just Glitter (90,772)
by Will from Australia
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Mariah is not a very good actress, not just in Glitter, but in everything I've seen her in - and yes I'm talking about Precious too and I know she got nominated for blah blah blah. I don't think she can act at all very well. But why should she, she's a singer with an amazing gift and for that she is in a league of her own. And that's just my opinions and opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one. Is it Christmas yet?
(Tuesday 10 September 2019; 00:29)
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Re: Let’s all watch it again to piss a goatee off (90,770) (90,771)
by We are Lambily from USA
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Well that's your opinion Bill, and most people who hate the movie haven't even seen it, but they do because a critic said so, the movie needed a lot of work but it's still precious in so many people's eyes. I have a cousin like that, if the movie doesn't have a high score on IMDB she doesn't watch it. I find that truly sad.
Honestly I enjoyed that movie more than half of Netflix/Amazon/Hulu originals this year and GOT last horrible season. But that's just my opinion.
The lead was a horrible actor, not good looking, he didn't bring anything to the movie except for giving Billie the heartbreak enough to write which is a better song than every damn Academy Award winning song that decade. Mariah should've never have allowed a budget under 50$ million for her first movie, even the cameras weren't right. Yes Mariah's acting wasn't Angela Bassett level but do you guys ever think about how much of a, impact the producers and directors have, imagine you killing at your profession for a whole decade and being a bit nervous for your first movie gig and not getting the support you need, which is why Mariah shined so hard, because believed in her, I still haven't heard the director mentioning the movie in years, the only one is Padma "if I spelled her name right and as usual to people to have meet Mariah, she was a sweetheart and a blessing and she also spoke about the feeling when Mariah when sings next you, she used the world Olympic for her voice".
Mariah has said their was a lot of problems with the movie, clearly we all saw them but top 10 of those problems aren't linked to Mariah. How many mediocre women and men in the industry have had movies flop on the box office and still gets hired and get multi million dollars deals still. But when a cute idea of a project that wasn't finished but got released by "Mariah", everyone raced to burn her first.
Also this mentality that if a movie doesn't sell or if a album doesn't sell, it ain't good is the one I hate the most. Let's not forget that movies flop sometimes because of politics and reasons people don't wanna believe, for whatever biased reason it may be.
(Tuesday 10 September 2019; 00:04)
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Re: Let’s all watch it again to piss a goatee off (90,769) (90,770)
by Bill from the UK
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We are all fans of Mariah and we don't like it when she missteps but, come on. Glitter wasn't a good film by any stretch of the imagination. Mariah's talent is in singing and songwriting, hence why the only salvageable relic from that project is the brilliant soundtrack that accompanied it. Let's be realistic, accept it for what it was, and move on.
(Monday 9 September 2019; 22:24)
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Let’s all watch it again to piss a goatee off (90,769)
by We are Lambily from USA
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Are we done? Honestly I can't take another minute of hearing anyone complain about Glitter the movie let alone lambs. It's a fact that the world treated her unfairly for that movie, at least half of the movies in theaters "this year alone" were worse. Yes the 80s revival was a bit to early, let's not ever forget 9/11 and its impact towards the movie, the script could've been better and she should have gotten a lead of her magnitude. Mariah had just slayed the entire industry for a decade and won the artist of the decade and sold over 100 millions etc. "I'm not gonna list all of her accomplishments." That budget was honestly just disrespectful. And it was released on select theaters.
The industry wanted to cancel Mariah so bad because she had just slayed them a whole decade. Mariah has in a weird way always been treated harshly because deep down they know Mariah got more talent than The Beatles, Elvis and every other legend "in white America", she had everything else and now she wanna be a movie star too, cancel.
My opinions on the movie. I have seen it like 4 times, honestly I felt that movie, such a cute cute cute movie, can't wait to watch it with my "future" daughters one day, the singing was amazing, the soundtrack was one of the best soundtracks I have ever heard. I'm so glad Mariah keeps on acting, cause I like it no matter what. I have seen at least 10,000 movies ish, "my math is a bit off" and 50% of them were so much worse period.
The positives: people said she is over but had forgotten that she is first and foremost a singer, songwriter and producer, her hit single Loverboy was #1 selling single of that year, and soundtrack sold over 2 millions.
Our girl always have a win in the midst of her falls, honestly she is the second greatest artist of all time, and MJ is only ahead of her because of his impact not talent and the fact that there is a "clone" of him in every city. Lol.
Don't belittle Jesus like that, doesn't matter if you are religious or not, his life is well documented and he truly was one of the good guys.
4 things could've made it better. 1. As I agree with my fellow lamb on this board, a stronger male lead was needed, the guy is not hot, I still don't know his name and I have never seen another movie with him "remind me of a good one if I have". Ugh worst possible pick ever. 2. Bigger budget, more promo and definitely more theaters should've been arranged, 3. Should've been released at a different time anyone who complains about Glitter and doesn't mention 9/11 is a straight up hater. 4. Ugh I hate that damn lead so much, yes brad Pitt would've been amazing and he was so much hotter back then,
All these combined would make the movie gross at least 89 millions with a 50 million budget.
(Monday 9 September 2019; 21:05)
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Re: Brad Pitt should've been the male lead in Glitter (90,764) (90,768)
by 90sMariah from SG
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Not even Jesus could've saved Glitter.
(Monday 9 September 2019; 19:03)
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Re: Underneath The Stars video found (90,765) (90,767)
by Bill from the UK
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Where have you seen this and please send the link.
(Monday 9 September 2019; 14:17)
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Re: Brad Pitt should've been the male lead in Glitter (90,764) (90,766)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
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Wasn't Glitter some kind of indie movie? Casting somebody like Brad Pitt would had inflated the budget. Glitter is what it is. One of Mariah's "beautiful mistakes".
(Monday 9 September 2019; 13:41)
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Underneath The Stars video found (90,765)
by Myles from CT, USA
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Is this for real? I’m wondering why it hasn’t been mentioned here.
(Monday 9 September 2019; 04:37)
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Brad Pitt should've been the male lead in Glitter (90,764)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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I always wonder to myself why on earth those powers that be picked UK actor, Max Beesley, who was somewhat unknown in US market, to be the male lead in Mariah's debut movie. I would say if they picked Brad Pitt or other A list actors or even B list actors such as Dean Cain, the movie would have fared better.
(Monday 9 September 2019; 01:42)
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Re: Glitter aka another disaster movie (90,762) (90,763)
by Dennis from The Netherlands
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Just to be clear, I never assumed Mariah changed the script. I might remember wrong, but I think she mentioned it a couple of times that the script had to be changed. If you say it was rejected by Sony you know what I meant to say. I am just like move on, we are talking about an 18 year old movie and why put more salt on obvious wounds? It was not only a terrible time for the world, but also for Mariah. She deserves more respect in my opinion.
(Sunday 8 September 2019; 22:32)
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Re: Glitter aka another disaster movie (90,761) (90,762)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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All due respect, I simply want to clarify some facts here. Mariah didn't "change" the script. Cheryl L. West and Kate Lanier ultimately wrote the story and screenplay after previous submissions had been rejected by Columbia pictures (who called the shots). It was reported that the script was being finished during the movie shoot. Yes, the director Vondie Curtis Hall's job is to competently run the show and morally support everything and everyone attached to the project. He should have been hung out to dry for this hot mess. $22mil was spent on Glitter compared to a worldwide gross of 5.2mil. Tommy Mottola was not on set, although it was reported he had access to the rushes/etc as Columbia is a subsidiary of Sony Music Corp. Mariah's 80's revival was a good idea, she was just too early and in retrospect not a prudent business move to star in her own film. 9/11 is and always will be an unfortunate time in our history, but let's call it like it is. The movie could have been so much better, it just wasn't. Perhaps Mariah shot for the stars here but never made it off her feet.
(Saturday 7 September 2019; 22:42)
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Re: Glitter aka another disaster movie (90,759) (90,761)
by Dennis from The Netherlands
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Isn't it well known she had to change the entire script to this movie while filming? And that the director told Mariah it would be ok? That Tommy was on set? You don't mention the director once? Don't you think the 80's revival might have "happened" later because of 9.11? 9.11 is a reverence to something that happened in 2001. There were some circumstances.
(Saturday 7 September 2019; 19:10)
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Underneath the Stars (Stripped Mix) (90,760)
by Licia from USA
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I absolutely love this mix. It's so beautiful to me. I've always loved UTS, but this mix gives it new life. No background vocals, just her.
(Saturday 7 September 2019; 09:14)
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Glitter aka another disaster movie (90,759)
by Tijl from Belgium
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I just rewached "Glitter" last night and well... it is still a bad movie. Not the atrocity the press made it seem to be at the time yet a missed opportunity. 1. Mariah wasn't ready to be a lead actress and to carry (pun unintended) an entire film. 2. The script is full of mistakes and is geared towards teenagers. 3. There is absolutely no chemistry between MC and Max Beesley. 4. The '80s revival started over a decade later hence the nostalgia had little to no relevance at the time. 5. The production values were of inferior quality. The soundrack however still rocks.
(Friday 6 September 2019; 15:13)
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Re: Mariah and Ellen (90,757) (90,758)
by Bill from the UK
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She's popular because she ticks every box imaginable.
(Thursday 5 September 2019; 15:36)
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Re: Mariah and Ellen (90,756) (90,757)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I don't know if Ellen has a "problem" with Mariah. Maybe yes, maybe no. She's definitely tired of her when MC doesn't want to answer. But as someone mentioned it's Mariah Carey. On the other side, I never understood why Ellen is so popular in the US on TV.
(Thursday 5 September 2019; 11:01)
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Re: Mariah and Ellen (90,751) (90,756)
by 90sMariah from SG
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Just to play devil's advocate, maybe Ellen isn't really feeling Mariah because of how Mariah almost always never answers questions? I guess after several visits, Ellen's totally over it. I'm not defending Ellen, if I'm being honest I only watch her when Mariah's on; too much screaming women every few seconds hurt my ears. Also, Ellen is not funny. Never has.
(Thursday 5 September 2019; 09:20)
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Article: Mariah Carey shuts down Instagram in glitter bikini (90,755)
by Travis from USA
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Mariah does, indeed, look fantastic. There's no photoshop used here. 
(Wednesday 4 September 2019; 20:06)
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Mariah bikini pic / in the mix (90,754)
by 123 from USA
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She looks really good in this pic. We haven’t gotten a new bikini shot in years. Looks like a mixture of dieting and maybe some cool sculpting. This looks like a good balanced body. Not too thin, kind of reminds me of her 2007 body where they caught her in the beach topless. Maybe she is preparing to film a video for in the mix. When does the new song premiere?
(Wednesday 4 September 2019; 19:47)
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Re: Mariah and Ellen (90,751) (90,753)
by TJ from Norway
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Is this for real? Rewatch that interview, it might be that you change your opinion. I guess it's the Christmas interview in 2016 you're taking about? If so, I don't see what you're seeing. Anyway, I do agree that it was from an area that wasn't good for Mariah.
(Wednesday 4 September 2019; 19:21)
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