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Re: How are singles chosen? (89,099) (89,102) by Edward from USA Bye Bye was meant to be the next One Sweet Day with its universal theme. E=MC2's blessing and curse was the fact that mostly anything on it could've been a single. The critics hailed it as an album that played as if it was a greatest hits. I guess they had so many options that they ended up picking what they thought would connect with the audience, but following an old tired formula instead of what the people were feeling at the moment. Coming from the high of TEOM, E=MC2 showed a Mariah singing with confidence, without straining or anything to prove, she was actually feeling herself in the studio, like literally, lol. I loved I Stay In Love from the first listen, but it was definitely the first attempt a recreating We Belong Together. Weirdly enough was the fact that everybody talked about most of the songs on the album, but they never mentioned I Stay In Love, not even Mariah's people. I didn't surprise me though that it was released as a single. (Thursday 11 April 2019; 14:02)

Re: Caution 93k (89,096) (89,101) by TJ from Norway Do you really think that Caution will sell 15,000 each month the next 5 years? It's not the way it works. For each day that goes, the sales will drop. I do like the album, and I do like a good joke. Thank you. (Thursday 11 April 2019; 13:48)

Re: How are singles chosen? (89,099) (89,100) by MusicfanJ from Germany I think the same. "Migrate", "For the record" and even "Side effects" would have been way better as single choices. I wonder why a management isn't able to hear what songs are radio friendly and have a chance of being a hit. (Thursday 11 April 2019; 11:48)

Re: How are singles chosen? (89,086) (89,099) by IheartMC from USA I love the idea of Migrate having been the second single, however, if they were going with the usual formula why select "Bye bye"? They had a song such as "For the record" that was begging to be a single and a huge hit in my opinion. That song has an infectious hook, beat and bassline. She also sang in a very great tone. That song had all ingredients of a hit that we could even sing along to. What do you guys think? "I stay in love" was good but it was generic. "Last kiss", "Love story" and "Bye bye" were all filler ballads. This album was about the more upbeat side of Mariah. I even think if she wanted to go deep she could have chosen "Side effects" and joined it with an amazing descriptive video. That would have been epic and unexpected. (Thursday 11 April 2019; 03:28)

Re: Memoirs (89,080) (89,098) by B from USA Agreed. She's already talked openly about how 2014-2017 were the hardest couple of years she's been through so she might as reveal everything so that she can control of the narrative not Stella and company. (Thursday 11 April 2019; 03:22)

Re: Caution 93k (89,094) (89,097) by Edward from USA Eric, please don't be sarcastic, last time you did that, B took a 3-hour break from the board. We almost die thinking he would be gone for a whole day. On a serious note: Caution is a great album, I actually can listen to it from beginning to end without skipping a track, a thing I can't say about TEOM, which is is far superior, but with some fillers. I just wish she had pushed herself vocally at least on a couple of tracks. I hope she doesn't wait another 4 years for another album. (Thursday 11 April 2019; 01:30)

Re: Caution 93k (89,094) (89,096) by B from USA What exactly don't you get? Caution in five months has basically sold what MIAM has sold in almost five years. In 22 years, Butterfly has sold 3,807,000 copies in the USA (according to Wikipedia). That's only 14,420 copies per month. Caution has sold 18,600 copies per month. So Caution is doing way better than Butterfly. What does Butterfly's sales have to do with my original message? I'm a glass-half-full person, an optimist. I will always look for the positive in every situation. I'm been called delusional and bat shit crazy because of my optimism and guess what I don't care what anyone thinks of me. (Thursday 11 April 2019; 01:03)

Re: Lil Kim/Cardi (89,091) (89,095) by Dove from United States Yep. Over it too. The more I think about it, Cardi/Kim remix probably would have been super raunchy. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 23:46)

Re: Caution 93k (89,093) (89,094) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands "In four years MIAM has sold 127,000 copies in the US while in just five months Caution has 93,000 copies in the US." In 22 years, Butterfly has sold 3,807,000 copies in the USA (according to Wikipedia). That's only 14,420 copies per month. Caution has sold 18,600 copies per month. So Caution is doing way better than Butterfly. B, I love your attempts in trying to look for reasons why Caution is not the flop everybody else knows it is. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 23:32)

Re: Caution 93k (89,076) (89,093) by B from USA In four years MIAM has sold 127,000 copies in the US while in just five months Caution has 93,000 copies in the US. It may not be on the Billboard 200 but it's remained on the R&B Album Sales chart since its release and has spent five nonconsecutive weeks at #1 on the chart. It's done well considering unlike MIAM it didn't have a Top 20 hit on the Billboard Hot 100. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 23:17)

Re: Lil Kim/Cardi (89,091) (89,092) by B from USA I'm over it. I honestly would have preferred a remix featuring just Kim but the Shawni remix is growing on me. Was Cardi ever even contacted about doing the remix? Maybe Cardi's a Jennifer loyalist/sympathizer like Demi Lovato. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 23:09)

Lil Kim/Cardi (89,091) by Mirage_Nunez from America I've been over the idea of Cardi being on the remix. Cardi Cosby is doing a stripper movie with JLo now, so who knows why she really didn't committed to the remix. Maybe she's team JLo *shrugs* who cares kind of over her now anyway. I never really cared whether Kim was on it or not, just thought it would be fair since it's a sample of her song. Anyway I actually love the version with Shawni (she's adorable across the board). If it got a fair chance of airplay, I believe she would be an instant star. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 19:27)

Singles choices (89,090) by Nikki from usa Yes, Mariah did want Migrate as the second single. She said it twice and was featured on a social media site in '08 talking with a fan where she stated, "It wasn't a 'Mariah Carey' record." The label wanted Mariah the Ballad Queen. Singles are and will forever be chosen by the label. They're not going to pay to create an album and promote it with the singers doing as they please. The general rule of thumb is the first single has to be a hit and the label will give the singer more say in it's follow up. That's only if the first single does well. The final say for single choices will always be the label. It doesn't matter who you are as long as the label is funding you. Mariah is no longer with a label willing to promote her. It doesn't matter if she makes the greatest music in the world if nobody knows about it. The Caution era has been nothing but MC promoting herself. When was the last commercial, ad, billboard, magazine cover, or radio shout out you've seen for Caution? How about internet ads? There is no promo, Mariah is the promo. "With You" was only released to A/C and adult R&B stations while "A No No" seems to be going to hip-hop and general R&B stations. She's not going to chart like that. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 19:19)

Re: Caution 93k (89,085) (89,089) by RibbonB from USA Chartdata reported the US numbers via Twitter. Perhaps they have WW numbers available. Wikipedia is not up to date at all. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 19:10)

Caution worldwide sales (89,088) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Good day/evening to the entire Archives family. For anyone who is curious about how much Caution has sold worldwide since its release the total stands at 210K currently. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 17:28)

Re: How are singles chosen? (89,086) (89,087) by Edward from USA Mariah definitely wanted Migrate released, that's not in question, but once Touch My Body was released, she and the label wanted to continue with the usual formula and it just didn't work, she never wanted Migrate as the second single, that's my point. I remember Migrate actually charted on the Hot 100 purely on sales, along with some other songs from the album just like Betcha Gon Know from Memoirs also charted. What kind of irks me here is the fact that some people keep saying Mariah wanted Migrate released right after TMB was released, when in reality she had her usual formula in mind: an up-tempo then a ballad. They thought Bye Bye would be a universal hit, but it just didn't connect with people like that. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 13:46)

Re: How are singles chosen? (89,081) (89,086) by Special K from USA I have heard rumors that Mariah actually wanted Migrate as the first single however the decision was made to go with TMB. Mariah performed Migrate on SNL and on her BET special "The Relativity of Mariah". There was a huge buzz about Migrate that surpassed TMB. Also keep in mind that T Pain was huge at that time. When E=MC2 was released the digital sales of Migrate surpassed TMB and the song even charted on the Billboard charts at number 92. Mariah said on a Radio 1 interview that she wanted Migrate released as a single. Speaking of T Pain he even said during an interview that he was shocked the record company went with Bye Bye and he hoped they gave Migrate a shot. Mariah said what she said on the Perez Hilton interview because she took what he said personally about Migrate making it sound like her career was going to bomb again if Migrate was the second single. Now regarding LA Reid. He actually wanted Say Something as the first single to be released from TEOM but Benny Medina convinced him to go with It's Like That. Bottom line Migrate should have been the second single released period. There was a huge buzz about that song. The timing was right. What a missed opportunity. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 13:06)

Re: Caution 93k (89,068) (89,085) by Gilles from Malta Does anyone know how much copies she sold world wide? (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 08:57)

Re: Memoirs (89,080) (89,084) by RibbonB from USA She should finish this last lawsuit with Lianne, before releasing anything else for them to try to pull evidence from. I doubt they will get her records. All these clowns acted like they had emails and evidence on their own and claimed Mimi wasn't taking meds and various other accusations. I don't think they're on good footing to make Mariah prove it for them, with her own private medical records. These people are bullies and blackmailers. Mariah would likely avoid all off this in her memoirs, especially if there are pending lawsuits. There's still Stella suing her own cousin the lawyer that Mimi hired. More beasts to contend with. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 02:55)

Lil Kim/Cardi (89,083) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) This all started with MC saying that she would love to work with them there was never an official confirmation in place and JD tried to hype fans because his ego was obviously bruised because none of this production was featured on Caution he only received associate producer credit on ANN as Shea Taylor is actual producer JD was hoping to produce a remix so that he can get acknowledgement and credit for something. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 02:15)

The Dream (89,082) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) He has his lane but honestly his sound gets stale very quickly. Which in my opinion kills Memoirs in my humble opinion the same production. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 01:52)

Re: How are singles chosen? (89,064) (89,081) by Edward from USA Back in 2008, Perez Hilton interviewed Mariah briefly, and he asked her if Migrate would the second single, to what she replied: "No darling, we've been doing this for years, I know what I'm doing." She answered that way because Perez kind of made it sound that Migrate wouldn't be a good choice as a second single. Saying Mariah wanted Migrate before Bye Bye to make Mariah looks good is insane to me. As you said, Mariah followed the same formula, and it just didn't work. Then she basically abandoned the project which I understand because of what was going on in her personal life. This notion that every time a single flops is because it was the label's pick is ridiculous. Mariah stopped being a puppet a long time ago. She's very much involved and in control of what she puts out, in too much control actually. E=MC2 is a great album full of potential hits, but the timing just wasn't right. L.A. Read was also the one who sent Mariah back in the studio to record We Belong Together and Shake If Off because he thought there was something missing. Some fans can't give credit to anybody other than Mariah these days. (Wednesday 10 April 2019; 01:49)

Memoirs (89,080) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Yes, she should publish her memoirs before possible legal action with her medical information exposed. Keep ahead of time, tell them your story, then nothing will bring you down. (Tuesday 9 April 2019; 22:26)

Re: Caution 93k (89,073) (89,079) by Hector from Mexico Actually I thought Caution would sell better. (Tuesday 9 April 2019; 19:57)

Re: Caution 93k (89,076) (89,078) by Musti from UK I did expect it to perform better than it did but I'm still not sure that the label intended for it to go far in the first place. It seemed to me like they were simply trying to milk AIWFCIY's popularity to sell as many Caution copies as they can to "reintroduce" her as a likeable legend. I'm beginning to think that the Cardi/Kim remix was nothing but a rumor to keep people interested in the album post Christmas for the tour. On that note, it might be interesting if she combines the upcoming memoirs with a corresponding album release. Maybe it's the next project that they want to pour the money into, though it kinda seems unlikely at this point. (Tuesday 9 April 2019; 19:15)

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