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Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,349) (86,370) by Andrew from UK Did Mariah really want to move away from the Diva Balladeer after 97? She did a mediocre job of doing so were she really have desired as such. She not only wrote many ballads after that year she still insists on singing said ballads, draped in a sparkly gown, on stage night after night ("Ima be here night after night to feel your lovin arms around me baby baby baby, you make it alright" - no relevance I just hear it everytime someone says "night after night" lol). I do sometimes think the lambily willingly uses strawman arguments in order to deflect critical analysis. Most people, I would postulate, buy into Mariah's journey that she emerged from the crissalis after the divorce and that everything pre 97 was fake in some way. Yet, before Mariah took her clothes off she acted like a normal person. Everything became a little different after the divorce and now, especially at times over the last decade, she does not. Everything now is measured, images airbrushed, utterances tempered, smiles faked and so on. Occasionally Mariah is forced to let this contrived image go and you see the real her. This happened at the NYE debacle. When I saw her look to the sky and realise that it had failed I saw a woman grounded and without pretence. So with regards to well-tempered people like Special K, et al., I understand the sentiment that Mariah was creatively restricted pre-97. But to say that Mariah of recent years is a relatable person without contrivance and fictitious persona is disingenuous at best and, at worst, ignorant. Even Martyn said she had a "personality transplant", something with which I agreed and have, thus, reiterated (probably regurgitated, admittedly) since. To question when Mariah let the glitter overpower the artist is perfectly fair. To say it's people merely living in the nineties who don't know who Mariah is, who should move on, is ad absurdum. And these arguments are only ever posted here by people who love her, but love her in different ways to others, who do not see "negativity" but "honesty". I do submit, however, that Mariah's interviews have been relaxed and without much of the contrivance or plain faced boring bullshit of recent years and they're a buzz to watch. And the audience footage of With You was equally so. I just wish half of the album wasn't dull as dishwater. But, hey - this is my truth, tell me yours. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 16:49)

Re: A No No remix (86,360) (86,369) by Bobby A from United States This is going to be Epic. Yes. Yes. I bet JD is just smiling saying I got this one. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 15:48)

Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,346) (86,368) by Edward from USA B, if you write another post with the words "signature sound" in it, I'll scratch your face. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 15:46)

Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,335) (86,367) by Tevin from USA Dang Special K. Great points, I totally agree. I keep forgetting the general public thought Mariah was a white girl with a big voice, when she first broke into the industry. I think I remember that scene in Glitter where the director was talking about the "mystery " of her race. Also everyone can remember the Fresh Prince of Bel Air line, "He's the one that found out Mariah Cary was black." My suggestion for those stuck in the past is to get some surround sound, a 3d video 4k ultra HD projector, some 3d glasses, then watch all the pre 97 performances to your blue in the face. That's the closest thing to a time machine you're going to get. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 15:35)

Re: A No No remix (86,360) (86,366) by Chicago Lamb from USA This is going to be huge. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 15:29)

Re: Suss One interview (86,348) (86,365) by Licia from USA I too got the the sense that he does like her as more than a friend. There was a moment in the video where he just gave her that look of adoration. I saw it. Lol. Anyway I hope they do make that Cardi and Kim remix happen. That might help nudge me into liking A No No. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 15:27)

Re: A No No feat. Cardi B and Li'l Kim (86,342) (86,364) by B from USA A modern day Not Tonight. Might as well add Da Brat, Angie, and Missy, (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 15:09)

Re: A No No feat. Cardi B and Li'l Kim (86,343) (86,363) by B from USA I'm here for adding Camila. I liked her and her music but after seeing the video of her giving Mariah a standing ovation at the AMA's I love her. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 15:07)

The promo tour (WWHL, Fallon, GMA) (86,362) by Randy from USA Vocals aside, I think she's doing a fantastic job in her interviews. I wish she didn't have to parade her songwriting ability around because we already know. The public already knows. Aliens on Mars already knows that she writes her own songs. But she looks flawless, not slutty, and she's articulate and has her big words back. I don't love the album but I'm seeing glimpses of why I fell in love with her. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 15:06)

Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,336) (86,361) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Great post Special K. Many great points. I am one who will always follow Mariah's career and find something to enjoy. There is no one who sounds like her and her music in some way shape or form has been the soundtrack of my life and will continue to be even when she's not making music. I am going to continue to enjoy her even if/when I don't resonate with every song. That's just how I roll I suppose. Mariah's fanbase will likely always be divided unfortunately. There will always be fans who. prefer earlier years. That's Ok. If there really nothing that works for some of her audience on Caution, there's not much to say really is there? People don't have to like it. But, you are absolutely right. Mariah chooses to market herself to a younger audience overall She's not an adult contemporary artist. She's also not in her 20's anymore which impacts how her music is distributed and who will play it. Trying to blend in with the Cardi B'd and other music being played currently and still do your own thing, is just part of what any artist does. Like it or not, the slang she is using in her lyrics right now is part of the market that is buying the music she wants to make Just go on YouTube and listen to people reviewing music. It's there. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 14:47)

A No No remix (86,360) by Shezz from Pk Mimi L. I don't want to jinx it yet but it seems like your christmas wish might just come true this year as per Lil Kim's manager's post. Let's hope they're not just playing with us. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 14:25)

Mariah and Lil Kim and Cardi B (86,359) by ksquarred from paris Sounds like the remix for A No No is coming. They need to do a video, it would be huge. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 14:16)

Thank you Mariah for Caution (86,358) by Sheila from United States I can put on the album and listen from start to finish. So grateful Mariah changed her mind and released new material. Thank you darling. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 13:44)

Lengthy mediation on the album / Special K (86,357) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Spot on just what the doctor ordered. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 13:37)

Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,335) (86,356) by Bill from the UK You're very right about that post coming across as their own insecurities Special K. Exactly my thoughts. No one here knows Mariah personally, the "real me" she sung about in Looking In is more than likely the woman presented before us in 2018. And hell, is it really a big stretch of the imagination to think Mariah wanted to throw her hair back and have some fun on a record, given all that she's been through? She's always said she finds solace in her music. Is it inconceivable that after her divorce, bipolar announcement, Stella etc., that she'd just want to have a good time in the studio? This album is consistent, current, and very, very enjoyable. I think she's done a great job and wish her all the best with it. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 12:48)

Re: Suss One interview (86,348) (86,355) by RibbonB from USA He was around during the early Stella days when all of them, Binaka included were enabling, drinking, party fools. Her interviews with DJ Clue used to be too familiar at times as well. Probably a guy thing. Haven't heard from him in a moment. I would love to see/ hear a new Angie Martinez Mariah interview this era. Sometime friendships help interviews, some times not. Angie's interviews with Mariah always seem warm and familiar but more importantly, professional. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 11:18)

Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,337) (86,354) by RibbonB from USA Thanks. I get frustrated, but it's unrealistic to think a musical talent, genius even, is going to remain the same, same. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 10:39)

Proceed with caution: Be nice or leave (86,353) by Ethan from United States I've been waiting to let everything sink in so here are my two cents. 1. The sequence of this album is great. From the chant in A No No to The Distance creates a cohesive body of work. Again, there's a disconnect between critics and some fans. Caution has generated positive reviews from Billboard to Rolling Stone, which has been very critical to Mariah and to see that RS gave Caution 4/5 stars is amazing. 2. 2nd single: The Distance (unless A No No remix is happening soon). The performance on Jimmy Fallon was on fire. Please get Joseph Kahn to direct the MV. Production, production, and production. 3. 3rd single: Giving Me Life. Please get Paul Hunter or Diane Martel to direct the MV. Yes, I left Brett Ratner our for a reason. He's tied with Stella and #MeToo movement and Mariah doesn't need any of that right now. Plus, he doesn't have the swag to direct GML anyway. It needs an urban vibe like The Roof. I have a vision to not have Mariah starred in the music video but to pull a George Michael and have Naomi Campbell in the MV. 4. 4th single: 8th Grade. Just in time for summer/fall to reminisce about school and the transition to 9th grade. Mariah goes back to directing. 5. 5th single: A No No or The Distance. Why not release 5 singles? It doesn't hurt anyway. Cue Joseph Kahn for the MV. 6. It's a shame that there wasn't more time for Mariah to perform one more song on GMA, aka Portrait since it was brought up. Unlike Michael Buble, Mariah tends to be a very private person and doesn't share much about her personal life. This was a moment for her to connect her bipolar II disorder to the Glitter period. In fact, she hasn't discussed about it live on TV - it primarily talked about through press - People magazine. Such a missed opportunity. When that news came out, some of my friends even said it was for PR. I do believe her and I don't think Mariah is the type of person that does it for publicity. 7. I hope Mariah promotes Caution like the way Adele promoted 25. Because of its body of work, it'd be great to hear a different song each time she's at an event or on a show. Unlike 25, Caution doesn't have that one massive hit like Hello but I still think it's a good idea to do it. 8. I love her recent interviews. Besides a bit of shade here and there from the Genius interview, the way she casually dropped names: Tommy and Walter (she even mentioned his name - exclamation mark). I found that quite rare. It doesn't seem she has any animosity towards Walter. 9. I need some production for the Caution tour. Get the curtains/dancers, video montages, props, etc. Get rid of long gowns during uptempo songs. More short ensembles like the pink dress. I better see some hands/legs movement during A No No and The Distance. 10. If you want the 90s Mariah (ballads alone), then go listen to Celine Dion (and be a part of the 1 million fans now out of the 20 millions fans in the 90s). Mariah is musicality and versatility. Her style has been changing yet still has that signature Mariah's buttery tone and velvety texture. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 08:11)

Article: Mariah reveals the story behind her legendary jeans (86,352) by george from Karnataka Hey. I recently met your blog, and I only want to say that since now I'm following you, you're fantastic, so trend. And this idea is fabulous. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 08:00)

Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,307) (86,351) by Steven Berning from USA Is it all that, though? Why you mad though? lol. It is that deep? The answers are endless, has Mariah changed, has the industry changed, is she trying to stay relevant, at what cost, does she still care, why didn't she throw us ballad-loving fans a bone? Not even one bone? And, Portrait is not a bone lol, etc. That said, reviewers do not agree with you. Even Roger. By the way, you and Roger should go and commiserate. If she wants to be something she is not, who are we to control her to tailor to our needs? She is still human. She goes through life changes that we know nothing about. We only think we do. If she were our employer, we are at-will employees. Go to Dion's camp. You may decrease your blood pressure. We are not her employers. We think we are because we buy her music, revere her, and keep her in business, but we are not her employer. My point, we can take this pretty high level. As you so eloquently did. However, she has a right to do what she wants. She pandered to her audience with her last album and it still didn't sell well. Why not indulge yourself even if others do not perceive that as the "real" you. Especially, people who have never met you and are not your inner circle. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 07:37)

Re: Why torture yourself? (86,326) (86,350) by Will from Australia Nailed it Todd. That cracked me up. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 06:20)

Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,306) (86,349) by jaker20 from US Complaining about Mariah being fake for 20 years is kind of tragic. Maybe she wrote Portrait for people like you, sorry can't help it. But how are you not able to move on? You don't like most of her output after 1997 cause she's no longer the diva balladeer. That's the same person she wanted to get away from. Its a great era, but that's the past. If anything, she's truer to herself now. This is the first album where she embraces the current state of her voice and she's more urban than ever, somewhere in the middle and just the right combo imo, and career-wise, as somsone who's achieved everything, she has to decide if she will evolve. Besides we don't really know her, everything around her now influence her. She's getting great reviews, and that's great encouragement to someone who already achieved everything to keep going. She produced some great music here. This album proves she can adapt and her best is yet to come. Those not changing their style isn't integrity, its that they're just not capable of doing it. Ability to change is a strength not a weakness. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:56)

Suss One interview (86,348) by 123 from USA She's really everywhere. She's done so many radio interviews. This one is more relaxed. I loved the convo between the both of them. Why do I feel like Suss has feelings for her? I wonder if they dated in the past. The car/police story is old. They told it during the MIAM era. Which shows that Mariah has hung around and been emersed in her urban/black/her own culture more often than not since her divorce and witnessesed racial profiling. I love the remix talk and actually getting back in the studio for a session. Looks like Suss is going to make some calls to make the Cardi/Kim remix happen. I love all of their private stories and Mariah's microwave anology to today's music. (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:37)

TRL Elevator (86,347) by 123 from USA This looks like so much fun. All the lambs looked so excited. MC looks like she is so much fun to hang out with. They got to sing along with her and stand next to her without security keeping them at bay. It feels like we got the old Mariah back. The one that pushed her product with interviews on radio and tv, good tv performances, cd signings, and cool fan interaction moments. In recent years she seemed reclusive and untouchable. Didn't one of the lambs on this board say he was in the elevator with her. Care to reveal who you are? It looked like a good time (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:30)

Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,313) (86,346) by B from USA Mariah makes an album that updates her signature sound seamlessly by collaborating with the best producers in the industry while remaining true to herself and yet somehow she's not being herself? (Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:24)

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