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Re: Change of topic (83,221) (83,239) by Dennis from Miami, FL "Oh, my, that was one time." © (Monday 23 July 2018; 22:26)

Since we're sharing fun videos (83,238) by Chicago Lamb from USA I think these are great collage of moments. (Monday 23 July 2018; 22:08)

Re: A message for B (83,224) (83,237) by Bill from the UK Thanks for the reply Randy and for taking the time to list those performances for me. I'll certainly re-watch them all. I do have a question mark over big televised performances though as they are often subject to overdubbing the imperfections. But perhaps that's not fair of me to say that. (Monday 23 July 2018; 20:18)

Pink taking the p out of Mariah (83,236) by ldyer from England So hilarious. Adele was right, Mariah's a bit biblical lol. (Monday 23 July 2018; 17:17)

Re: "Lullaby" Can't Go For That remix? (83,180) (83,235) by R&B Junkie from Poland I'd be pleased too. r-n-b.junkie@hotmail.com (Monday 23 July 2018; 16:51)

Can't nobody, can't nobody tell me nuttin' (83,234) by Andrew from UK I don't know if this had been posted before but I just came across it and I think I'm going to use it for two reasons. First, to prove my point and to pitch that, as the years go by in the video, I would bet your anxiety levels steadily increase. But primarily: I am not sure I have ever heard Mariah sing anything from Cruise Control before. This. Is. Gold. (Monday 23 July 2018; 15:55)

Re: A message for B (83,223) (83,233) by Andrew from UK Lordy me. For you to call someone a liar is one of the most ridiculous things ever. To question the integrity of someone who has always been, at once, both polite and fair, when your posts are complete misrepresentations of the truth, drowning in conjecture, suffocating from lack of proper analysis and mired in feeling over fact, well, it's hilarious. It is one thing to be positive and empasise the good, it is another thing to deny or twist the negative. I remember being like you from about 1999 to 2008. Then I accepted reality and yet still spend my life listening to and talking about Mariah. See, you may be a different character to me, but denying the truth doesn't mean "hate". In fact, emphasising the truth and still remaining a fan surely means the complete opposite. To quote your favourite book: "The truth shall set you free." (Monday 23 July 2018; 15:44)

William and Randy (83,232) by Andrew from UK I suppose what William means is that post 1996 there was a definite shift in quality and it quickly became a reality that each performance was nerve-wracking to watch - you did not have faith that it was going to sound okay, not be lipped or not leave you embarrassed. You don't turn on a post 96 Mariah performance and think "watch this, people", instead you reach for a cushion to hide behind and think "oh shite, here we go". So Randy may be correct that there were some very good performances, but William is correct that that doesn't necessarily mean they were enjoyable. But I have, and will always, extol the virtues of A Home for the Holidays. Something about that performance, that era, that look, that personality. Magic. Except for when one choir is called "elite" and the other one wasn't. Luckily the post 96 cushion was within reach. (Monday 23 July 2018; 15:33)

Re: A message for B (83,226) (83,231) by Randy from USA E-mail address. (Monday 23 July 2018; 13:38)

Re: Lambily treat (83,222) (83,230) by Edouard from France Oh Terna. Totally agree with you. How good it is to finally have you back on the board. Thank you for your positivity. Refreshing. Peace. (Monday 23 July 2018; 12:11)

Re: Random thought about "Where are You Christmas?" (83,225) (83,229) by Edouard from France Hey. I believe Mariah posted something a year or two ago, saying how great it was to have AIWFC and WAYC at number 1 and 2 on iTunes or something like that. She's claimed that song, in terms of the writing credits at least. Plus I've always thought that you can hear Mariah all over WAYC. It's a if Faith Hill sung on top of a Mariah demo of the song. I mean, the way she sings it is very Mariah-esque don't you think? Peace. (Monday 23 July 2018; 12:09)

Do you think (83,228) by Todd from Sydney, Australia That Mariah lets her kids listen to current pop songs? I have nieces and nephews their age, and they are obsessed with Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Demi Lovato, Ed Sheeran and the likes. So I wonder if her kids are all "Mummy (or Mommy), put on 'No Tears Left To Cry' again." (Monday 23 July 2018; 09:52)

Vision of Love 7/10/18 (83,227) by 123 from USA I don't know why I'm even posting this on this board as it doesn't seem to fit the current narrative, but for anyone that might actually like it like it did. Here you go. (Monday 23 July 2018; 09:19)

Re: A message for B (83,223) (83,226) by Bill from the UK Please send me the 100% live performances post 1996 that you enjoy. As I said originally I am genuinely interested in these, because I've yet to come across one. (Monday 23 July 2018; 06:44)

Random thought about "Where are You Christmas?" (83,225) by CDC from CA Does anyone know if Mariah has ever acknowledged that song? Also do we know what exactly her contribution to the song was? I don't have a copy of the soundtrack so I can't check the writing credits but is it safe to say that she wrote additional lyrics for the longer, pop version that Faith Hill ultimately recorded, while Will Jennings wrote the lyrics to the shorter, film version sung by Cindy Lou? (Monday 23 July 2018; 06:36)

Re: A message for B (83,220) (83,224) by Randy from USA Bill you know I am the most disgusted fan as far as MC lipping on stage but I have to disagree with you on no good performances since 96 without lipping but the fact that I can count them down shows that in 22 years it's been mostly a farce. 1997 singing My All on Rosie was decent. 1997 SNL performance was decent. 1998 Divas Live My All was really good and then her voice fell apart. 1998 My All at the Blockbuster awards and the Pavorotti and friends were decent. 1998 Oprah performances were decent but I think Whitney won that match up. However at the 1998 Billboard Awards she was much more composed than Whitney and did a decent performance of I Still Believe. The 1998 Rosie O'Donnell performance of I Still Believe was decent. Then Whitney murdered her at the 1999 Oscars. She lip synced every damn climax through the Rainbow promotional run as well as the tour. She then had her breakdown and got some rest and sounded amazing at the A Home For The Holidays special where she sang Reflections and Never Too Far/Hero. And I would bet money those were 100% live. Same at the Radio Music Hall performance of Never Too Far. Every climax from Charmbracelet promotional run and tour was lip synced. Then we get to TEOM whereas she lip synced the climax to It's Like That but sounded beautiful and sang all of With You I'm Born Again. Then she lipsynced the climax to We Belong Together a million times. This is when she started creating raspy tracks to match her current voice so it wouldn't be so stark. I was done with MC live after that. Until surprise, surprise that Jimmy Fallon impromptu performance for the fans. She had so much control and was actually playing with a song which she never does. She normally just sticks to the record and does little improvisation. But that was almost ten years ago. She has been a complete climax lip syncing mess since. So my point: I agree that she has been disastrous and lip syncing for a long time but everytime I count her out, she surprises me. After Rainbow, I was done and she came with those Glitter performances. After Charmbracelet and TEOM, I was done and she came with Jimmy Fallon. So maybe just maybe one day we will get something and can say slay. (Monday 23 July 2018; 01:46)

Re: A message for B (83,220) (83,223) by Terna from Nigeria As Aretha Franklin would say "Lies, stacked upon more lies." Also please do speak for only yourself when you say "I've not seen her deliver a decent 100% live performance since 1996. None of us have." Well I have, countless times and that right there is a blatant fat lie. Honestly, you old fans need to quit disrespecting this woman. (Monday 23 July 2018; 00:19)

Lambily treat (83,222) by Terna from Nigeria For the greater part of this decade, Mariah has been silent recording music wise. There has been no album this decade so far except the "Chanteuse" record and even that she did not promote. The Christmas album and Number One to Infinity don't really count as core Mariah Carey records. But over the years, what has been constant is that she's been writing, collaborating. (Remember that Diane Warren ballad? And who knows a Walter Afanasieff new record.) And recording a lot (all caps). Now the recent studio pics we've been seeing she's all dressed up, since when does Mariah dress up for recording especially when writing from scratch. If my instincts are right (and they usually are) and the rumours are true about her releasing new stuff this year, I feel Mariah has long recorded all the stuff she's lined up and at this point is just mastering the records in addition to any new bops and is about to drop a Major bomb that's gonna shut naysayers down for good and at the same time make up for all the lost time because lets face it so far this decade has kinda been a waste. She hasn't had any real album rollout. It's just been a song here and there. Maybe I'm just dreaming though. (Sunday 22 July 2018; 23:46)

Re: Change of topic (83,216) (83,221) by Hector from Mexico She worked with Stargate, they are Norwegian, (Sunday 22 July 2018; 20:02)

Re: A message for B (83,214) (83,220) by Bill from the UK I have watched the Beacon Theatre performances and, like all her live performances of the last 10 years, there is more lipping than actual singing. The Fallon performance was okay, but it wasn't exactly If It's Over at the Grammy's or Hero at London on the Daydream tour. I don't believe she has stage fright. She mentioned she suffered from nerves when she started out, which is understandable. But come on, she's done more performances on stage than I've had hot dinners. I wouldn't say she slayed Can't Let Go either. She got through it, with a backing track kicking in at the end. I've not seen her deliver a decent 100% live performance since 1996. None of us have. She needs to simply stop deceiving all of her fans and either admit the truth of the matter, or sing, write and record within the one octave she has now. The ruination of her voice was all her own doing so she needs to show us the respect and love we show her and be honest with us all. (Sunday 22 July 2018; 19:22)

Re: A message for B (83,214) (83,219) by Andrew from UK Mariah is not "slaying" CLG. Like everything, half the thing is lipsync. On "just cast aside" she doesn't even remember to move her mouth to the "side" syllable as she gets ready for the playback to kick in. The "no, no" for the "I just can't get you out of my mind" climax is strained and tuneless after an inexplicable remarkable range and power of singing. Change the topic if you like as long as there is an openness that the topic is not her "current voice" but the significant degradation that has not been heard in this way before. This alarms me. I am not sure why it does not alarm others. Also, posting that Mariah should work with The Smeezingtons, Bruno Mars, The Weeknd etc is hardly changing the topic since you bring it up every couple of months. (Sunday 22 July 2018; 18:45)

I asked B.Scott (83,218) by John john from UK Not sure if anyone knows B.Scott but her and Mariah are close and have been for some time now. Lately I've noticed she never posts about Mariah (like nearly a year) but she post lots on J.Lo and almost daily about Beyoncé. Beyoncé blinked yesterday twice in 2 seconds and she posted it. Lol. Well I instagram messaged her and asked if they were all ok? And why she hadn't posted anything. She replied almost immediately. She said that they talk all for time and are and always be the greatest of friends. She said she hadn't had time to post much (mmmmm) as she was concentrating on a brand she'd been working on. Anyway a day later, she post on Instagram and it's a post about Mariah. I'd like to think I helped with that one. (Yes Andrew even this is a story about me and how truly amazing I can be.) (Sunday 22 July 2018; 18:31)

Change of Ttpic (83,217) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) B, while your list of hopeful collaborators would be interesting except for Miguel and Happy Perez as we have seen their work together but I would not mind another round. I think that we will be surprised with the other people who Mariah has decided to work with besides the usual suspects for the new LP I think that is what we are more intrigued about. (Sunday 22 July 2018; 17:52)

Re: Change of topic (83,215) (83,216) by Dennis from Miami, FL Regarding Max Martin. I don't remember Mariah working with any producers from overseas. The bulk of her work is with the US producers. I doubt she will work with him because she doesn't want to be associated with pop music. (Sunday 22 July 2018; 15:23)

Change of topic (83,215) by B from USA Can we please move on from discussing the current state of Mariah's voice. How about a list, lol. Here's my list of the people I want her to work with on her new album: Bruno Mars and The Smeezingtons Miguel and Happy Perez Frank Ocean Ryan Tedder The Weeknd Shea Taylor Benny Blanco Cashmere Cat Diplo Frank Max Martin  (Sunday 22 July 2018; 03:56)

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