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Re: Mimi from the block (83,011) (83,012) by RibbonB from USA The red was cute too. Her waist was snatched. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 23:36)

Re: Mimi from the block (83,009) (83,011) by Licia from USA The feather outfit is my second favorite. You know I love her in red. With the right style and fit she slays red. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 22:20)

Re: Lip sync fail (83,007) (83,010) by Lee from UK The part that made me laugh was when Mariah had the kids on stage singing Always Be My Baby and she was chatting to them between the odd bit of singing. Then when the backing track kicked in for the climax and Monroe was trying to talk to her, Mariah was like "no no not now, what have I told you about talking to me when the key change starts". (Saturday 7 July 2018; 21:36)

Re: Mimi from the block (83,006) (83,009) by RibbonB from USA Let's hope it's not a race to see if he pops his patella again or she cracks her coccyx. The former is preferable though. But that white feather dress is cute AF girl. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 17:01)

Re: Yes (83,004) (83,008) by Andrew from UK Comment ca-veut dire "fruitloop" en francais? Going with "loop de fruits". (Saturday 7 July 2018; 16:58)

Re: Lip sync fail (83,002) (83,007) by Andrew from UK Fantasy could be a slow orchestral movement sung as a melancholy whisper. Or with Mariah and a guitarist on stage doing it a bit simplified country. There is so much Mariah could do. I'd be happy to manage her. But she just goes through the motions and falls flat on her face - literally and figuratively. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 16:53)

Re: Mimi from the block (82,994) (83,006) by Licia from USA I know Banaka got put on restriction after that almost fall. You had one job man. Lol. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 15:55)

Re: Something is in the works (82,993) (83,005) by Edouard from France Hey Will. You know what ? I believe it's live as well. I think this show is less pressuring for Mariah since she doesn't have to sing all the number ones like on the CD. She's more free, can take her time with the songs and save her voice for the big moments. A show like Vegas is all about pacing yourself and Mariah knows how to do that. She's a true professional. Sometimes we should remember ourselves that she only missed one show since starting this extensive touring back in 2014. It's quite incredible I believe. Peace. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 14:24)

Yes (83,004) by Edouard from France 1#s to Infinity was a very difficult show to perform. All those number ones, so embedded in everyone's collective memories. I realized Mariah felt the need to perform them as close to the original as possible. When you think about it it clearly is the most challenging show she has ever performed. With The Butterfly Returns she gets to play with the songs more. She sings album cuts and is as pressured to sing them exactly as on the album. It allows her to take her time with the songs and save her voice for the songs that she wants to sing exactly the way they are meant to be sung (Hero, Vision of Love, etc.). Hence she's more relaxed, more at ease, more creative also. Ronnie said it feels more like the Rainbow tour. I totally agree. This tour wasn't her best vocally, but her spirit shined through compared to her previous tours. She gives less here and there, but she also gives more when not expected. The way she sang MIT happen last night is a great example. She played it safe but got creative and sounded healthy. I loved it. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 14:14)

Gone girl (83,003) by 90sMariah from SG It's really hard to watch her struggle to sing her songs, the voice I fell in love with is truly gone. The once velvety, multi-layered, agile, beautifully round, elastic, free-willing, explosive and resonant voice is now replaced with thin, dry, achy, nasal, limited, staccato. It's sad really. She looks great though. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 13:01)

Lip sync fail (83,002) by Lee from UK Even though this was exposed to her falling off a box, we all know she mimes most of the lines in Fantasy. I really wish she would stop using backing tracks and just sing the songs in a comfortable key or change them up to fit her current voice. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 11:37)

Mariah tickets (83,001) by Anonymous from Hi Lambs. Really struggling to shift my two Mariah tickets for Blackpool August 24th. I've now dropped the price to £100, originally £150 was spent. I'm having an op so gonna be out of action hence why I can't go. If anyone would like to take them off my hands I'm willing to drop the price further. Message me cvjade07@aol.com. Thanks. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 10:27)

Mimi L (83,000) by Anonymous from Hey hun, are you married yet? If so how did it go? (Saturday 7 July 2018; 10:24)

Lovely seeing so many Mariah fans (82,999) by Anonymous from Shout out to the fans using self portraits as profile pics. Lovely seeing all these gorgeous lambs faces. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 10:24)

Mariah's voice (82,998) by Anonymous from I agree Andrew, really not feeling Mariah's tone nor the strain. I would rather her sing the bare minimum at a concert with ease and tone instead of the belt and shout method. Props to Mariah though for singing in lower keys, obviously she knows her limits however these tones are not what I feel in love with. So glad Mariah's back catalogue is extensive. I'm no vocal expert but I do wonder what her voice would be like if she took at least a year's break with the best of the best vocal coaches. I notice even more so in her performances that our dear Mariah struggles with her breathing. If someone could explain this I'd be most grateful. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 10:22)

Re: Something is in the works (82,993) (82,997) by Bill from the UK It was lipped. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 08:22)

Article: Mariah Carey looks stunning and in shape on stage (82,996) by Lainsky from Philippines She looks perfect in this dress. Love it. I think she has a thing for feathers. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 05:45)

Re: Something is in the works (82,993) (82,995) by Ronnie from California With the better footage surfacing, I have a better understanding of how much of it was lip synced. WBT climax is lipped. Also wanted to correct myself, Fantasy still has heavy lipping and she was actually caught, she tried to compensate by doing those adlibs I mentioned. I'm staying completely objective here, so it is up to you lambs to decide whether or not it was adequate. I'm so excited for this album. I want some tea to be spilled. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 02:36)

Mimi from the block (82,994) by RibbonB from USA Well thank God she didn't sprain, bruise or break a hip tumbling off that big block last night. At least she's not being hoisted and shuttled around on sofas this time around, but I hope they drop that move upon reflection. Mimi likes a little danger. The white dress is a stunner and keeper and I don't mind the black number. (Saturday 7 July 2018; 00:17)

Re: Something is in the works (82,992) (82,993) by Will from England Just a note about the WBT climax. I honestly don't think that was lipped. She usually tries for something a bit more polished for those moments, but last night included a voice crack, and it seems very out of character. Let's see what happens the next night. (Friday 6 July 2018; 23:41)

Something is in the works (82,992) by Ronnie from California Mariah played it relatively safe for the opening night of The Butterfly Rerurn. But I'm so glad that she is genuinely belting now and the entire approach has been redirected. Instead of hoping that big vocal moments would compensate for her lack of control, she now is making more thoughtful decisions. She also kept the lipping to a minimal. I am gonna point out some things I noticed that should be recognized: Mariah made a grand/upbeat entrance with the first section of the concert. Fly Away - a great choice for an opening interlude, it was smart and a move straight for the Daydream Tour Honey - safe with some exciting, new vocal runs Shake It Off - I thought it was more tasteful approach to her diva antics that some people do pay to see. The whole morror skit wasn't cringey and it did make sense for SIO. A tasteful rendition of SIO. Make It Happen - the safest she played out of all of them, her upper belting register was a little shaky and raspy so she used it sparingly *costume change* This seems to be the dark 90-95 section. She even changed into a black dress. Fantasy - it had so many ad libs and maybe new prerecorded vocals, although if it was live, she killed it. She really wanted everyone to know she was singing live. Icannot confirm it until I find a better recording but it all seems to be mostly live. The beat even sounded off because she was a little behind most of the time. Always Be My Baby - she needs to stop bringing Roc and Roe out for this one Vision of Love - her runs were so fast you notice that her voice is going faster than her head. She would do the run and follow it with awkward and misplaced "sustained" notes. I'm glad she has gotten back into the groove of knowing how difficult VOL should be (especially musicality - wise) Emotions - she went harder for the intro this time. She did a modified 12" club mix intro. I guess it was to attract attention with the momentum from Drake's Emotionless. It was a smart PR move because she gave it her all. Not perfect but no one in the game could do it as close as she did. After that it was a standard Emotions performance. *costume change* The Bridge Beautiful - this was a smart move. They changed the "walking through the audience" song from ABMB to Heartbreaker to now Beautiful. This was a great choice since she went through the audience during Miguel's verse instead of standing there awkwardly waiting for the first half of the song to finish I'll Be There - it felt out of place One Sweet Day - eh, I think she had some great vocal moments but I can never tell with all the egos on stage Can't Let Go - it was apparently the showstopper of the night. She performed the hell out of it and rearranged the instrumental beautifully. This rendition was also smart. If we all recall, In 91/92 MC has performed the climax in its original length and a shorted-halved version. Last night it seemed like she sings the first half attempts the whistle and if it doesn't happen (which it didn't) the band improvises and she sings the second half of the climax with a second chance to whistle (or play a prerecorded one). Pretty smart imo. But either way MC attempted a whistle live which is more than I was hoping for. Can't Take That Away - she was shaky but it was so nice to hear her sing this song again. Straight from Rainbow with less lipping. In fact this entire tour is being approached like Rainbow. My All - surprisingly, not her best, but again she gave up bigger vocals moments in order to be more skillful. My All was always a moment because she would include many vocal dramatics. *costume change* The Climax It's Like That - a pretty solid version yet again Love Hangover/Heartbreaker - holy crap Love Hangover sounded unbelievably great and sexy. Heartbreaker felt a little out of place though Touch My Body - always a crowd pleaser when she gets to do her whole campy bed-segment We Belong Together - her tone sounded amazing the entire song, despite having very little lipping, she still used a pre recorded climax Overall, she played it safe because she cut the lipping down to a substantial degree. At the same time she can do difficult vocal acrobatics (like emotions intro) but she is sparing them. I don't think she should "go ham" every concert like she has been trying since 2014. Instead it seems like she is saving her voice for promo, like back in the 90's. I enjoy many of the choices she made. I am intrugued by whatever her next moves are. This is the MC I have stood beside this entire time. (Friday 6 July 2018; 21:29)

Re: The Butterfly Returns was festive (82,984) (82,991) by B from USA She didn't perfom Butterfly? Maybe she will at a later date. I assumed she would perform all of the singles from the album since she titled the show The Butterfly Returns. Maybe she played it safe since Butterfly is a vocally demanding song. (Friday 6 July 2018; 19:03)

Re: Vegas (82,985) (82,990) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I'm happy she's doing Can't Let Go. She does not do Can't Take That Away, Make It Happen #Beautiful or Lovehangover/Heartbreaker all that often anymore either. She's got to do some #1 hits that the general public want to hear or people in the audience who aren't fans would likely be pissed. Lol. It seems like a summerish setlist to me. Shake It Off, Honey, Fantasy, We Belong Together, My All, Beautiful, Heartbreaker all have summer vibes to me. (Friday 6 July 2018; 19:01)

Vegas (82,989) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) The confidence was definitely there and you can tell that she is a better place in her life. As for the set list you have to expect mostly hits are going to appear with some fan favorites because the Vegas audience is made of all demographics and for the casual listeners they would prefer the hits to fan favorites. I thought her attire was beautiful especially the red dress, and last outfit even though the bottom half looks very heavy. Overall a great showing for opening night and I know that she will get even stronger as the shows continue on. (Friday 6 July 2018; 18:56)

The Butterfly Returns (82,988) by Andrew from UK The set list is as dull as the actual set. What is up with those two stilettoes-cum-Nike-swooshes? But the elephant in the room here is Mariah's voice. Unfortunately it is restricted to metred outbursts of shouting interspersed with flat notes, suffering from missed phrasing due to shortness of breath. There is also severe restriction in her range. She needs to have a big rethink as to what she is doing. The set simplicity and design suggests the voice is placed centre stage and that it what you are paying for, not a visual spectacle but an aural one. But the voice is as stressful to listen to as it probably is to produce. She needs bigger productions, ie. distractions from the failings. Tanaka's crew and the cheap set pieces do not cut it. And she may want to consider moving around the stage. (Friday 6 July 2018; 18:19)

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