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Madge's Ray Of Light is 20 years old (81,085) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Not a Mariah post, but whatever. Happy 20th year of greatness to one of the finest albums of the 90s, Ray Of Light. All electronica tracks that came after this has borrowed a thing or two or more from it. This cemented Madonna's status as the Queen of Reinvention. I still listen to Drowned World, Frozen, The Power of Good-bye and especially the title track to this day. So good. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 16:52)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,077) (81,084) by Edward from USA Had Mariah not lipped the National Anthem, it would've been great. It was going well until she "mis-lipped" that part at the end and it was so evident. The recording was great and she looked lovely, but I wish she had done it live like most people before her. But talking about dubbing, since they couldn't actually dub a live performance, she did lip to the best of her ability at that time, and deserves credit for that. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 16:51)

Mariah and Luis Miguel (81,083) by MusicfanJ from Germany I watched some interviews during the Rainbow era and to see how Mariah was smiling when she was talking about Luis was almost heartbreaking. I really do believe her heart got broken many times. What I like about Luis is that he never said anything "childish" or bad to the press and media. Imagine Mariah writes a lovesong about Bryan, maybe we get some love tunes on the next album. MIAMTEC hasn't got ones. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 16:45)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,077) (81,082) by Andrew from UK Bill the smoke and mirrors is the problem of the century. Mariah was so desperate to sound perfect that she created the illusion she was flawless. When her voice got worn she needed to keep up the pretence resorting to more and more desperare measures. I gotta empathise with her a bit because to be known for greatness then to feel that greatness leaving you outwith your control must be really heartbreaking. But people don't want studio engineered vocals lipped on stage, they really just want to hear her sing what she can because she has that special unique tone. I wonder: who are the smoke and mirrors for? They're not for us; we don't want them. It must be for her. When the album title The Art of Letting Go was revealed, I really wondered if it meant she was acceoting of certain realities. I think it would have gone down as the bravest move and be heralded as one of the greatest moment in musical history. Sad that it turned out to be about kitchen windows. Oh well. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 16:28)

Re: Our minds work differently (81,076) (81,081) by Andrew from UK That sounds a lot like the "bullying" you claim to despise lol brilliant. Another hypocrithere are far more worthy opponents on here (and who keep the conversation flowing even in periods of Mariah-droughts and don't just pop up to criticise those that do). I'm bored of you now. Back to Mariah. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 16:22)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,078) (81,080) by Bill from the UK Haha. Dysfunctional fan base, so true. Essentially any vocal flaws or imperfections are re-recorded after the event and pasted over the original to make the original sound perfect. This example of I'll Be There from Unplugged is a good example. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 16:03)

Mariah and Rosie O'Donnell / My All (81,079) by MusicfanJ from Germany I've read a few times a lot of people don't like Rosie. But I enjoy every interview with Mariah and Rosie. They are all great and fun. This one really made my day. Mariah is the only person I could watch talking for hours. I love her speaking voice. And she looked like an angel/goddess during Butterfly. As I said many times, her natural beauty is just stunning. Still is. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 15:26)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,077) (81,078) by Licia from USA Bill can you explain what dubbing is? I had never heard about dubbing until I started hanging out around this dysfunctional fanbase (lol). I believe someone tried to explain it before, but I didn't get it. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 14:33)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,072) (81,077) by Bill from the UK Dennis you are right. The smoke and mirrors were there really since the beginning. Even the televised performances were dubbed as videos have emerged of the differences. As much as no one will want to hear it, Mariah was marketed and directed/manufactured to be a competitor to Whitney due to her enormous success. She of course always had one up on her around songwriting and producing and her range as well, but her early voice was always very light and airy, with a range, but it was beefed up to be as big as Whitney's with lots of studio engineering and support to bolster them up (Kelly Price's comments, please refer). Performing like that live clearly impacted. You read about Adele taking time off and cancelling tours etc. due to her voice potentially being damaged. Mariah soldiered on and we hear people like P Diddy (or whatever his latest name is) saying she recorded over 50 different takes of Honey so he could use whatever he wanted. I'm sure she did the same for many other songs and remixes. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 12:58)

Re: Our minds work differently (81,075) (81,076) by tadatorao from japan No one assumes you are gay or straight [because] no one really cares. But we do assume you think using 50 cent words make ones sound smarter and tilting heads by 45 degree makes one looks better. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 11:52)

Re: Our minds work differently (81,053) (81,075) by Andrew from UK Make as many as you like haha. I assume that you assume that I am gay and would be offended. But doing so would show that you are a hypocrite. You seem to miss the point a lot so you are wise to avoid debating me. "Blondie"? Since we are labelling hair colour as a perjorative is my response to be "blackie"? Much love. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 11:13)

New album (81,074) by Will from Australia When do we think the new album will drop? She's been in the studio lots over the past year but seems to be back concentrating on enjoying her lifestyle which makes me wonder what's doing with it? (For the record she can enjoy herself as much as she wants lol.) (Thursday 22 February 2018; 07:05)

Mariah Carey gives Fergie sound advice (81,073) by B from USA Love this. The public's perception of Mariah is so skewered that they think she hates all female singers because of her feuds with Madonna, J.Lo, and Nikki. and because she supposedly shaded Ariana, who deserves to be shaded epically by Mimi lyrically on her next studio album. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 01:59)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,061) (81,072) by Dennis from Miami, FL I believe all the corporate heads in Sony knew the truth all the way. Mariah first went on tour in 1993 and her fist "full concert" was 1992 MTV Unplugged. Isn't that strange? It's true that her voice had changed after 1996, at least at concerts and on the records. But could it be that there was no actual change? She always complained that she was told what to wear, how to sing, what to sing, etc. Could it be that there was "smoke and mirrors" back then? All of her concert home videos were dubbed, even MTV Unplugged. Tommy, even after NYE disaster, never commented on her voice, only on "her career". And she has lost her voice before fame once, due to smoking, as far as I remember her interviews. (Thursday 22 February 2018; 01:40)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,070) (81,071) by Hilton from USA True. (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 23:46)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,069) (81,070) by Edward from USA He answered other questions though, friends talk all the time, they share whatever they want. Friends do. (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 23:30)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,068) (81,069) by Hilton from USA He didn't answer the question did he? Check mate. (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 22:12)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,067) (81,068) by Edward from USA It's rude if a complete stranger asked them, but coming from a close friend, that's different. There's nothing wrong with asking what happened to Mariah's voice, my friend didn't ask the question disrespectfully or Trey would've checked him. People talk shit among friends they don't talk to strangers. Had you asked the question, it would've been rude because you don't know Trey. My friends have been his drinking buddies and know his ass, so you can't tell friends what they can talk about or not. I'm not Trey's friend so I wouldn't ask that question. You know what's rude? Asking Trey why Mariah is using smoke and mirror and pretending to sing live when she's obviously lipping, that's rude. But asking what happened to Mariah's voice, something the whole world has talked about and know about, give me a fat effing break. (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 21:49)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,066) (81,067) by Hilton from USA The voice is an instrument that when used and abused has wear and tear on it. Everyone's is different. I think it's a rather rude question to ask, to be honest. Why would trey answer a question like that? Come on, seriously? Mariah knows her voice is temperamental as she has even said this in numerous interviews before. Her instrument is sacred to her and I'm sure deep down inside she knows it's given her lots of trouble. Not to stray too far from my initial thoughts though. It's super rude and disrespectful and really it's like the line has to be drawn somewhere. I would never dare ask Mariah a question like that. Also, she probably has had many of discussions with close ones behind closed doors about her voice. Super rude and disrespectful in my opinion. (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 21:12)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,061) (81,066) by Edward from USA I'm not implying anything. He was just been evasive. He wouldn't say anything as I wouldn't have talked either had I been in his place. I just thought he would confide a little bit of information to closed friends, but he kept his lips tight. He rolled his eyes, and what my friend got from that was that it was evident that he knew or had his own opinion of what happened, but he wouldn't put his food in jeopardy by talking about it. If we know something happened to her voice and we don't know her like that, Trey is not deaf not to know when he sings back up for her regularly. (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 20:55)

Re: Reuben just has a lot of feeling (81,062) (81,065) by Reuben Walton from United States Yes Mean Girls is a modern classic in its own right, on par with older movies like The Breakfast Club, Pretty in Pink and Can't Hardly Wait. (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 20:26)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,058) (81,064) by Lila from United States Oh no, choking on the two step? Just stay seated then. (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 17:42)

Re: Welcome Reuben (81,044) (81,063) by B from USA Favorite songs right now from each album. Mariah Carey: Love Takes Time Emotions: You're So Cold MTV Unplugged: If It's Over Music Box: I've Been Thinking About You Merry Christmas: Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) Daydream: Long Ago Butterfly: Breakdown #1's: Sweetheart Rainbow: After Tonight Glitter: If We Charmbracelet: I Only Wanted The Emancipation of Mimi: Mine Again E=MC2: Side Effects Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel: Candy Bling Merry Christmas II You: Christmas Time Is in the Air Again Almost Home from "Oz the Great and Powerful Me. I Am Mariah...The Elusive Chanteuse: Dedicated featuring Nas. Infinity I Don't Unforgettable remix (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 15:25)

Re: Reuben just has a lot of feeling (81,050) (81,062) by B from USA It's from Mean Girls. You seriously haven't watched the movie Mean Girls? (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 15:07)

Re: Mariah Carey: Just Be Good To Me (from Japan) (81,056) (81,061) by B from USA What exactly are you implying? That he was she, implying when he rolled his eyes and dodged the question about what happened to Mariah's voice? Just wondering what you think his reaction and response implied. (Wednesday 21 February 2018; 15:05)

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