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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,733)
by Stacey from USA
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Rumor has it MC wanted to sing WBT with whisper vocals and JD insisted on full voice vocals. Can you imagine that song as a whisper track? Perish the thought. Yikes. MC is a masterpiece. But like all of us isn't perfect. Even the greatest basketball player, Michael Jordan, said all the shots he missed made him better. I mean, the guy was cut from his high school basketball team. I'll always advocate MC keep realists on her team, people not afraid to say no to Mariah. Shoot, Celine didn't want to sing My Heart Will Go On and ultimately gave in and did it. Good decision, don't ya think?
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:23)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,726)
by Jamie from UK
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Problem with you is you want everyone to agree with what you think, but unfortunately they didn't, you lost this argument. Even the webmaster jumped in to say it.
I've seen that clip before, nobody ever wants to hear criticism but if you can accept it and learn from it then all the better. I'm not hating on her and being negative like some none fans are on twitter. I just think a bit of constructive criticism would be good at times with Mariah as I only want the best for her as do a lot of people on this forum hence why we're so passionate. If you think that your gonna come here and not hear fans give constructive criticism at times with something they choose not to like then your gonna be constantly disappointed. As a fan you're allowed to not like certain songs, it doesn't make you any less of a fan.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:50)
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by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Great post Jamie. After reading your post, I immediately thought of Sza and her ability to create these radio friendly songs that receive huge radio impressions despite Sza not having a great voice. Checkout Good Days, I Hate You, Shirt, Kill Bill and Snooze. If MC can create radio friendly songs with a nice beat without heaving belting and swooping runs, then she will do just fine with MC16. I am going to feel like a kid on Christmas day when I hit the play button on my new Mariah Carey album. At this point I don't care if I hear some vocal imperfections the new album. I just want an album that is fun and has quality music.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:16)
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by Jamie from UK
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I think she's just gonna have to go with it, I feel there's never a great time to release albums especially when you're up against all the latest trends. I think she should just release a great album and what will be will be. But we need a great promotion strategy, plenty of appearances, interviews and a lead song that's gonna grab the attention of radio. It's so much harder with the older artists to get the radio airplay that they need, but I'm hoping Mariah has a great album up her sleeve. I loved Caution, But we need some more uptempo tracks with a lighter carefree sound.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:58)
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General public or bad decisions (105,731)
by Stacey from USA
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I've visited Vancouver. It's been a hot minute though, 1990, lol. It was beautiful. We visited Vancouver Island, stayed in a town called Nanaimo. Traveled over to the Canadian Rockies, visited Lake Louise, down to Calgary, and into Montana to see Glacier National Park. My dad loved to travel. Beautiful country.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:12)
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General public or bad decisions (105,723)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I love the west coast. Vancouver's nickname is Raincover because it rains a lot, but I live side the beautiful beaches and ocean, the mountains are only 20 mins away, palm trees the whole bit. It's gorgeous. I love Guelph though, it's a beautiful city, super old downtown lots to do, and so close to Toronto so tons of Broadway shows, sporting events and concerts just 45 mins away. My brother still lives in Guelph and loves it. Thanks for asking. Where about in the USA do you live T?
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 18:25)
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I Don't (105,730)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I see now. It does sound perfect on those parts. I remember that VOL performance. I felt so bad for MC when she sang it, but she pushed through a song she wrote in such a high key and with all of those runs 30 years ago. I was mistaken about ITC. She performed it on the Fashion Rocks primetime special in 2008.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 22:59)
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I Don't (105,725)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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It's the usual playback: the most demanding parts. In "I Don't": the chorus "'Cause when you love someone, you just don't treat them bad..." and the final belting part. I mean, the parts sung perfectly well. She did a really good job on both occasions and her voice was in a really good condition at that time.
Another impressive performance was VOL at Jimmy Kimmel. By the way, I don't know which "I'm That Chick" performance you're referring to.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:11)
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YAR CD single (105,729)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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This would have been fire.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 22:23)
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YAR CD single (105,707)
by T from USA
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The single should have had three songs. The Max Martin pop mix that we got. A reimagined David Morales extended dance mix with even bigger vocals from both girls. And a reimagined So So Def urban remix with whisper vocals. This should've been planned for months before the single release, for the nostalgia.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:13)
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Similarity between Big Energy Remix and yes, and? (105,728)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Haha thank you. I was thinking like ya if they don't have a budget for a music video at least these smaller fun videos could have fed the engagements. Also just giving some context to why they did they song would be nice because a lot of people were confused why Mariah on a song like this and not something like "Positions", "POV" and TUN. So much potential especially in this era of social media where people lose focus and move on from things so fast they should have done more to highlight the song. When I saw the whole them changing profile photos together, having physical CDs ready and the short video of them together I was like wow they'll go all in. Finally something solid haha only for them to drop it like it's hot.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 22:21)
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Similarity between Big Energy Remix and yes, and? (105,715)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Mimi L, they should have hired you as head of the promo team. I like your ideas.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:27)
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by Jamie from UK
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I think she's just gonna have to go with it, I feel there's never a great time to release albums especially when you're up against all the latest trends. I think she should just release a great album and what will be will be. But we need a great promotion strategy, plenty of appearances, interviews and a lead song that's gonna grab the attention of radio. It's so much harder with the older artists to get the radio airplay that they need, but I'm hoping Mariah has a great album up her sleeve. I loved Caution, But we need some more uptempo tracks with a lighter carefree sound.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:58)
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New album (105,709)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I feel today that MC is going to wait until the Taylor and Dua release their albums first. We are probably looking at August or September now.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 14:22)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,726)
by Jamie from UK
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Problem with you is you want everyone to agree with what you think, but unfortunately they didn't, you lost this argument. Even the webmaster jumped in to say it.
I've seen that clip before, nobody ever wants to hear criticism but if you can accept it and learn from it then all the better. I'm not hating on her and being negative like some none fans are on twitter. I just think a bit of constructive criticism would be good at times with Mariah as I only want the best for her as do a lot of people on this forum hence why we're so passionate. If you think that your gonna come here and not hear fans give constructive criticism at times with something they choose not to like then your gonna be constantly disappointed. As a fan you're allowed to not like certain songs, it doesn't make you any less of a fan.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:50)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,716)
by JC from United States
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Buying a cd doesn't allow you to make demands about her voice and career, nobody forced you. You will never get it. Tell me how you feel about watching this.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:31)
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I Don't (105,725)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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It's the usual playback: the most demanding parts. In "I Don't": the chorus "'Cause when you love someone, you just don't treat them bad..." and the final belting part. I mean, the parts sung perfectly well. She did a really good job on both occasions and her voice was in a really good condition at that time.
Another impressive performance was VOL at Jimmy Kimmel. By the way, I don't know which "I'm That Chick" performance you're referring to.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:11)
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I Don't (105,678)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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No way. Not I Don't too? They both sound completely live. Can you post the last time MC performed 100% live on network TV before The Distance in 2019? I am thinking when she performed I'm That Chick on the Victoria's Secret primetime CBS special. Right?
(Friday 23 February 2024; 02:12)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,724)
by TJ from Norway
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I was afraid that I misread your message. Sorry. Peace and love.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 19:59)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,713)
by jaker20 from US
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I don't think you are understanding what I'm saying lol. I'm not disagreeing with you. Oh well. Bye I guess.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:01)
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General public or bad decisions (105,723)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I love the west coast. Vancouver's nickname is Raincover because it rains a lot, but I live side the beautiful beaches and ocean, the mountains are only 20 mins away, palm trees the whole bit. It's gorgeous. I love Guelph though, it's a beautiful city, super old downtown lots to do, and so close to Toronto so tons of Broadway shows, sporting events and concerts just 45 mins away. My brother still lives in Guelph and loves it. Thanks for asking. Where about in the USA do you live T?
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General public or bad decisions (105,708)
by T from USA
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Matty, do you prefer the west coast of Canada or do you miss Guelf? I've never seen much of Canada.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:15)
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Biggest vs. smallest tours (105,722)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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What are your thoughts about MC's top 5 biggest and smallest tours? Which ones did you attend? Which tour do you wish you had attended? Are you attending one of her The Celebration of Mimi shows in April? Do you think MC is on the same level as Beyonce and Taylor Swift in terms of being able to sell out a huge stadium tour?
The Angels Advocate Tour was only one that I attended a show in Atlanta. I wish that I had attended one of the Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour shows. I saw some great videos of MC performing songs that she had never performed live before.
Top 5 Biggest Tours 1. Charmbraclet World Tour - 69 shows 2. The Adventures of Mimi - 40 shows 3. Caution World Tour - 35 shows 4. The Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour - 31 shows 5. The Angels Advocate Tour - 23 shows
Top 5 Smallest Tours 1. The Australian Tour - 3 shows 2. Music Box Tour/Daydream World Tour - tie - 7 shows each 3. Butterfly World Tour - 11 shows 4. Rainbow World Tour - 19 shows 5. The Elusive Chanteuse Show - 20 shows
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 18:25)
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Jazz (105,721)
by Stacey from USA
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I hope so. Songs like Lullaby of Birdland and Nevertheless fit her current voice so well.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 17:55)
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Jazz (105,703)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Stacey your dream is probably coming true, one of the insider accounts posted that MC will include a jazz style song on MC16, it can be a sample or a cover. Take it with a grain of salt though since these accounts are right 50-50. They said Ariana and MC have a music video and big promo plans including live performance but we didn't get it. But I think it's a safe bet that she will have something jazz inspired otherwise she would randomly jazz it up on stage.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 04:55)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,720)
by Stacey from USA
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Brilliant response.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 17:52)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,705)
by TJ from Norway
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I do not agree with you, but then again, it's only opinions. You sit on yours, and I have mine. I have been a fan since 1990, but I don't love every project she has done, but am still here. I call that a real fan, even if you disagree.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 12:09)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,719)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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Yay.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 17:49)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,704)
by enwar00 from usa
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Yay. A friendship is born.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 06:38)
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YAR CD single (105,718)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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I really like your idea. I too wish it happened, I miss the remixes we used to get.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 17:47)
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YAR CD single (105,707)
by T from USA
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The single should have had three songs. The Max Martin pop mix that we got. A reimagined David Morales extended dance mix with even bigger vocals from both girls. And a reimagined So So Def urban remix with whisper vocals. This should've been planned for months before the single release, for the nostalgia.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:13)
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by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Yes but honestly at this rate there'll be more big name releases and then it'll be Christmas. We all know basically October to December she won't release anything new. So that doesn't even leave us much space.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 17:08)
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New album (105,709)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I feel today that MC is going to wait until the Taylor and Dua release their albums first. We are probably looking at August or September now.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 14:22)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,716)
by JC from United States
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Buying a cd doesn't allow you to make demands about her voice and career, nobody forced you. You will never get it. Tell me how you feel about watching this.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:31)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,691)
by Jamie from UK
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Did Mariah not say on numerous occasions "I owe it all to the fans"? Well that works both ways I'm afraid when you put yourself in the public domain. You have to earn people's respect and give your fans what they want. Do whatever you like in your personal life but when it comes to your fanbase they have invested a lot of time in her as an artist and only want the best from her. I wasn't negative about her latest release with Ariana, I actually praised it. But I appreciate it's not everyone's favourite, I'm not gonna sit here and type your all something else for not like it as I accept everyone has a difference in opinions. From your post you think Mariah should just do mediocre performances from now on, and everyone should just say that's ok it's Mariah she's allowed to, she doesn't care about that stuff. And again that's fine you're entitled to your opinion, but remember a lot of us have an opinion to you and that's ok too. Ps I sang this back to myself just so you know some of us can sing.
(Friday 23 February 2024; 16:50)
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Similarity between Big Energy Remix and yes, and? (105,715)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Mimi L, they should have hired you as head of the promo team. I like your ideas.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:27)
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Similarity between Big Energy Remix and yes, and? (105,686)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Honestly I was thinking the same. In both instances they were together and could have easily done a longer video or at least have a little chat talking about the collaboration and what it means to them. Ariana could have talked about how the collaboration came to be, why they decided on this song. Mariah could have talked about her love for remixes and why she decided to join Ariana on a song that casual listeners wouldn't associate with her usual music. They could have also done small videos of just them playing fun games to promote the video like "who knows who better" or pop culture quizzes (both of them are big pop culture experts). Then they could have released these videos every other day to keep engagement. It's honestly a shame. Mariah posted a small video yesterday promoting singing the chorus. But I'm shocked that Ariana's team dropped the song like it's hot. Like after the first day there was a single mention of the release not even a story. I know she's trying to sell an album but why not simultaneously put spotlight on this song to keep the engagement ?
(Friday 23 February 2024; 15:38)
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Probably. But I wonder how that would impact the Merry Christmas 30th anniversary. I wouldn't be surprised if she's got a lot lined up for that. But then, maybe she would surprise us. I actually think it works, get it swept up by her Christmas buzz.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:14)
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New album (105,709)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I feel today that MC is going to wait until the Taylor and Dua release their albums first. We are probably looking at August or September now.
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,713)
by jaker20 from US
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I don't think you are understanding what I'm saying lol. I'm not disagreeing with you. Oh well. Bye I guess.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:01)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,705)
by TJ from Norway
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I do not agree with you, but then again, it's only opinions. You sit on yours, and I have mine. I have been a fan since 1990, but I don't love every project she has done, but am still here. I call that a real fan, even if you disagree.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 12:09)
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Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,712)
by jaker20 from US
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You're framing it in a negative way, while I see it in a positive way. Slow down on being so negative. And also, the right word is "rebound", not jump up. Very different word connotation.
The song would have been out of the top 40, it was on its way down. Not a lot of songs have that kind of chart trajectory. And that is credit to Mariah's name.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 15:56)
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Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,706)
by T from USA
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The song jumped up from #31 to #12 this coming week. Two spots away from a top ten. Mariah wont be credited. Pop Mariah is no more.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:10)
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Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,711)
by jaker20 from US
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This is all lambs' work. The song was already freefalling until Mariah stepped in. It was assured to leave the top 40 this week, and Ariana's album won't come out until after another 2 weeks. That would have been an absolute disaster for her. This proves again that Mariah still have a huge pull in the charts.
Mariah now and Mariah pre-2019, which was before AIWFCIY went to number 1, have very different commercially appeal. Caution was released in 2018 just didn't catch her Christmas spark.
Mariah should capitalize on it every year and release every January, like something, anything. She's the only one who has an annual buzz but she's wasting it with remixes. That said, she did get 5 million new listerers in a week.
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Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,710)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Ariana's team waited 4 weeks too late to release the remix. It seems like somebody on her team really didn't think the remix was good enough to release a week after the original and make a video. I hope MC is able to get her own high profile collaboration out this year. I would love a SZA and Summer Walker collaboration just like Whitney ft. Faith Evans and Kelly Price on Heartbreak Hotel. It's going to be interesting what happens with MC16 before the AIWFCIY season starts.
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Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,710)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Ariana's team waited 4 weeks too late to release the remix. It seems like somebody on her team really didn't think the remix was good enough to release a week after the original and make a video. I hope MC is able to get her own high profile collaboration out this year. I would love a SZA and Summer Walker collaboration just like Whitney ft. Faith Evans and Kelly Price on Heartbreak Hotel. It's going to be interesting what happens with MC16 before the AIWFCIY season starts.
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Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,706)
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The song jumped up from #31 to #12 this coming week. Two spots away from a top ten. Mariah wont be credited. Pop Mariah is no more.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:10)
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I feel today that MC is going to wait until the Taylor and Dua release their albums first. We are probably looking at August or September now.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 14:22)
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JWho apparently spent 20 million of her own money to create a visual album. Now I haven't seen the visuals neither have I heard the album so I don't know much about it. I hear it's average but that's a really ambitious project. It didn't do great sales wise but like I said still ambitious. The way Mariah writes her songs sometimes you can envision them (like BGK, Babydoll, Crybaby etc) so I would really love a visual album from Mariah. Where she hires creative people to help her out with strong visuals. I wish she'd be willing to take that ambitious project on. Also I was hoping MC releases her album sooner that later, the more she'll delay the lesser attention it'll get. I still think she's got more hits in her just need to have the right collaborations whether it's other writers or other artists.
(Thursday 22 February 2024; 17:36)
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