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Gay icon status (76,243) by Andrew from UK I donated to Elton John's AIDS foundation. Am I a gay icon? It seems basically some of the more needy and emotional homos in here desperately need Mariah to be thought of as a gay icon, whereas, I would suggest that even most gay people would roll their eyes and say "I can't stand her" alongside the rest of society that does that now. Would suggest that is an axiom that Mariah is not a gay icon in that she isn't revered in the gay community. Some gays like her. But some gays like J.Lo. Is she a gay icon, too? Some gays like Michael Jackson. Is he a gay icon? Basically, if gay people like your music/have heard your music/know who you are, you're a so-called "gay icon"? Utter tripe. And Outside is no more a gay anthem than I am a gay icon, myself. It is a song about being mixed race that some have re-interpreted to fit their own situation, a song that back ended an album 20 years ago, that nobody, unless a Mariah Carey fan, has heard, or, indeed, cares about, either. Utter, utter tripe. (Monday 12 June 2017; 10:14)

Mariah's formula (76,242) by B from USA This excerpt from from All Music's review of Rainbow is what Mariah needs to hear at fhe moment since shes working on an album scheduled for release this year: "It's appropriate for any introspective album, it's a bit ballad-heavy, which makes Rainbow seem a little samey. Yet that's not the only reason the record has a weird sense of déjà vu, since this follows the same formula as its two predecessors, distinguished primarily by her newfound fondness for flashing flesh. That repetition isn't necessarily a problem, since she does formula very well, managing to appeal to both housewives as well as b-boys. Rainbow proves that she can still pull off that difficult balancing act, but it's hard not to be a little disappointed that she'd didn't shake the music up a little bit more - after all, it would have been a more effective album if the heartbreak, sorrow, and joy that bubbles underneath the music were brought to the surface. She needs to hire a stylist and she needs to shake her music up at bit more. She needs to work with Frank Ocean and his producers, Miguel and Happy Perez, and Bruno Mars and The Smeezingtons. She also has to do damage control she needs a vocal coach, a throat vocal specialist and she also needs to quiet drinking and smoking. She so needs to rest her voice and the twins are old enough to read. No matter what I'll allows support her. I know what she's capable of." (Monday 12 June 2017; 04:16)

Re: Celebrity game night hosted by Pixar (76,231) (76,241) by RibbonB from USA That does look like a cool event. She was there with an interesting bunch of celebrities and Crustella too. (Monday 12 June 2017; 04:08)

Re: Gay anthem? Gay icon (76,224) (76,240) by 123 from USA She's a gay icon because the gay community made her one, you know the traditional way all female entertainers used to become one. Not for publically supporting the gay movement for good press and record sales. When men in drag dress like her and lip synch to her music on a Friday night, it doesn't matter what anyone says, her gay icon status has been cemented, whether you like it or not. I legendary one at that. (Monday 12 June 2017; 04:02)

Re: You're Mine (Eternal) (76,222) (76,239) by RibbonB from USA B, the radio is not gonna be friendly to our more seasoned divas. It just seems to be that way these days. Things are cyclical and perhaps big voiced divas will come into favor again in the next decade. It's only a few years away, so she is good. Her latest attempts to be on trend have been a trap for her, no pun intended. (Monday 12 June 2017; 03:53)

Lionel tour (76,238) by RibbonB from USA Looks like Mariah and Lionel will sing a duet when on tour. Not sure why he was being coy when she and Luther had a big hit together with his song Endless Love. I hope all goes off without a hitch. (Monday 12 June 2017; 03:34)

Just an older fan (76,237) by Haiji Toro from USA We are indeed, the best reflection of her fan base. We were there from the beginning of her career and we're still here as it may possibly end. We stuck with her through her good and her bad. We come from a time that all we had was her music and this messageboard. If it weren't for this site, we'd have to subject ourselves to those so-called fans that know nothing about the true roots of her music and her life. Those "yass bitch", "the queen can do no wrong" type of fans that we see on social media. If it weren't for people like Mimi L, Andrew, Adam, B, Ribbon, Licia, Special K, Edward and of course Eric, to mention just a few, we wouldn't be informed with actual truth and information about what's really going on. Yeah, some are a little more blunt than others, but why is it OK for us as regular people to give each other tough love but we must walk on eggshells and praise these celebrities as if they were gods? MC isn't in any way or form checking for us and our opinions, obviously. Otherwise, we'd have actual music to discuss rather than what she finds more important, her antics, finances, t.ts and a$$, her men and a whole lotta nonsense. Everything nowadays seem to be gimmicks. I'm patiently waiting for the day she adds champagne scented toilet paper to her long list of pointless things to promote, instead of new music. I myself, am getting tired of defending her. How hard is it to just scroll through and simply ignore the comments you don't care for? Stella must be managing you as well if you find it that hard to think for yourselves. (Monday 12 June 2017; 02:22)

Sorry (76,236) by Lee TS from USA For my negative message. It wasn't necessary but I just felt things were so dire. I won't leave her like some fans have announced on this board. I just hope she's happy and continue on making great music. She needs to just keep it real and not be distracted by all this Hollywoood nonsense. (Monday 12 June 2017; 02:08)

Lemonade (76,235) by B from USA Rainbow was certified Platinum by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI), denoting shipments of one million copies. Lemonade was certified double platinum by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI), denoting shipments of two million copies. (Monday 12 June 2017; 01:35)

Re: Curves (76,223) (76,234) by B from USA Mariah is never going to have her 2008 Touch My Body again. Giving birth changed her body. She knows [she] has hips. She was athletic and lean before she got pregnant now she had child bearing hips and a booty. She'd look amazing if she got a breast reduction and stopped having fillers injected in her face. She started getting fillers injected not long after Stella became her manager. (Monday 12 June 2017; 01:19)

Re: Re: Gay anthem? Gay icon (76,194) (76,218) (76,233) by B from USA She's donated to Elton and Elizabeth Taylor's AIDS charities and sported the red ribbon to raise awareness. Unlike other artist who use their charitable acts to gain support or sympathy. This a list of charities Mariah's has made donations to: Aid Still Required American Foundation for AIDS Research American Heart Association American Stroke Association Andre Agassi Foundation for Education BID 2 BEAT AIDS Clothes Off Our Back Elevate Hope Foundation Elton John AIDS Foundation Feeding America Fresh Air Fund Grammy Foundation Hale House Center Human Rights Campaign Kids Wish Network Live 8 Make-A-Wish Foundation MusiCares Music Rising Operation Smile Red Cross Save The Music Foundation Stand Up To Cancer TJ Martell Foundation United Negro College Fund United Service Organization World Hunger Relief Needless to say Mariah Carey is a gay icon who wrote the ultimate gay anthem Outside. You're welcome. Before you make statements make sure you can back them up with facts. (Monday 12 June 2017; 01:14)

Re: You're Mine (Eternal) (76,222) (76,232) by B from USA Correction had it. My phone is cracked and my auto correct is ignorant. (Monday 12 June 2017; 01:04)

Re: Celebrity game night hosted by Pixar (76,226) (76,231) by Lila from United States I saw that. I thought it was really nice. It would be great for Mariah to do more things like this. It's fun and charitable. (Monday 12 June 2017; 00:54)

Re: IG pic: Limited collection pride (76,228) (76,230) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter It will probably be apparel and there is a rumor that it might be a perfume. (Monday 12 June 2017; 00:32)

Re: (76,225) (76,229) by Edward from USA The older fans at MCArchives appreciate your diss. Thanks for being one of us. And I don't know where in Alaska you live, but this website is a true reflection of her fans. Yes, the fans that actually buy her music, no those click-fans that flood Mariah's social media accounts by the millions but never purchase shit she releases. In my opinion, you are bleak to come here and complain on a platform you so vividly abhor. Besitos. (Monday 12 June 2017; 00:12)

IG pic: Limited collection pride (76,228) by MusicfanJ from Germany Does anybody know what's going on with the latest Instagram pic? A collection to celebrate pride? I have a feeling it has nothing to do with music. (Sunday 11 June 2017; 21:44)

Mariah and Nick (76,227) by ezio_a_da_f from Belgium I loved them as a couple. She was doing so great when they were together. I loved the way she looked back then. I found a site with some lovely pictures of them both. She looked so happy and very natural. Enjoy it. (Sunday 11 June 2017; 17:46)

Celebrity game night hosted by Pixar (76,226) by Malcolm from Asia This is cute. Finally a gesture that somewhat relatable lol. Please do this on Fallon. (Sunday 11 June 2017; 17:37)

Re: (76,217) (76,225) by Tyler from USA This board is beyond bleak (sorry webmaster). I only come on here for the news since the people who talk the most crap have the latest information. This board is just older fans who followed MC in the 90's and in my opinion not a true reflection of her fan base. No one searches websites anymore and the majority of her fans interact through social media. I've learned to get my news from this site and move along as it's depressing. It seems likes it's a competition of who can make the best diss in order to get the most likes. Who can be the most creative with putting her down. (Sunday 11 June 2017; 16:42)

Re: Gay anthem? Gay icon (76,221) (76,224) by MC1989 from Spain It's very easy to use our flags and our colors, like many companies and some political parties do nowadays, stealing our identities and apropriating our codes to do what is called pinkwashing. Mariah is gay-friendly, and she can be considered as a music icon who's loved - and hated - by many gay people, but I don't see her as a gay icon like Cher or Madonna, who had been supporting the LGTBI community long time before it was a trendy cause to fight for. In my opinion, Mariah's apoliticism conflicts with the idea of a gay icon. By the way, many of these called divas had been making profits from gay people for decades, and it's a shame that when they are asked, or when it comes to deffend the LGTBI cause, they are only able to make vague speeches full of clichés. P.S: Madonna and Cher should perform for free at the World Pride this year after all this time making profits from gay people. (Sunday 11 June 2017; 16:33)

Re: Curves (76,220) (76,223) by Butterfly from I wouldn't call her fat but out of shape and living a unhealthy lifestyle. And her drinking isn't helping her. Alcohol makes you bloat and gain weight. (Sunday 11 June 2017; 14:18)

Re: You're Mine (Eternal) (76,187) (76,222) by B from USA I love You're Mine (Eternal). However, it paid been produced by a new producer, a current producer it would have been huge. Imagine if it was produced by Happy Perez, who produced #Beautiful, he would have seamlessly updated her signature sound and made it more radio friendly. I imagine it sounding Motownish like #Beautiful. (Sunday 11 June 2017; 04:59)

Re: Gay anthem? Gay icon (76,204) (76,221) by B from USA Mariah's a gay icon because she's openly supported gays and employeed them since she began in the industry. She named an album Rainbow. (Sunday 11 June 2017; 04:51)

Re: Curves (76,206) (76,220) by B from USA I don't think needs to lose weight, she needs a breast reduction and to stop using fillers. My brother says she looks hot in the I Don't video and that he loved the song and doesn't understand why it's not playing on the radio. I told him ageism and sexism and no support from her label. Mariah doesn't need Sony, Sony needs Mariah. Mariah bought the masters to her Columbia/Sony catalogue in 2005. They only really profit when she's on their label and they're releasing her albums. She was even able to include her #1's during her tenor at IDJ on the updated release of #1 To Infinity. She's still a force to be reckoned with in the industry based on friends and her back catalogue. However, she needs a new manager that is well connected in the industry and she needs to rehire (by begging) Cindi Berger and Nash (if he was apart of Stella's mass firing of Mariah's former team). Stella and her family are bad for business and if Mariah's all about money she can find a manager that can make her a lot more money that Stella. Stella isn't trying to help Mariah she's using Mariah and it's plain as day. Everyone notices but Mariah it seems. Someone needs to tweet Nick his opinion on Mariah's new team and how they were able to get Mariah [censored] Carey do to a reality show. (Sunday 11 June 2017; 04:49)

Re: Mariah - gay icon (76,209) (76,219) by B from USA I remember Mariah talking about her guncles in the early 90's. During interviews during the debut era. She said she left most at home at their house as a child. (Sunday 11 June 2017; 04:37)

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