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Mariah Carey is about a decade behind (72,591)
by T from USA
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There was a time in Mariah's career that she was all about the music. In a way it could've been perceived as boring, but that's who she was. Part in part because of Tommy but also that's what her peers like Celine Dion and Whitney Houston were also doing. But something started to change in the industry. Madonna was becoming more and more in your face, the Spice Girls up'ed the music marketing game and Britney Spears made being sexy the thing to do. At the turn of the new century Paris Hilton and Britney were the most talked about "celebrities" but not because of their voices in music but because of their antics. And I remember a picture of Mariah at a party with Paris Hilton and it looked like Mariah wanted to fit in so badly. Here we are now in the year 2017 and something has happened. The industry has switched back to being about talent and voices. Just look at Adele and Beyonce at the Grammys. This alone should mean Mariah can shine again, but unfortunately she still stuck in the idea that you have to be overly sexualized and controversial to sell records. In a way Mariah was the one who brought it back to being about the talent with TEOM. But in recent years she's regressed to that early 2000's/Glitter thing where she seems so unfocused about the music and more focused about being a celebrity. The only thing I can think of is her voice really is gone and she has no other choice.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 14:18)
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Re: Grammy's (72,585) (72,590)
by Malcolm from Asia
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Another thing is that people still mentions and pokes fun at Mariah whenever there's a technical issues on the show, like on what happened to Adele, a lot of people said things like "Do you see that Mariah Carey? That's how you handle messing up on stage." I still believe that Mariah could've been handle the situation better but give her a break, first of all it was New Year's Eve, you can't just re-start like that, New Year will not start at 12:05. They mentioned her again during Beyonce's performance, they said that a pregnant Beyonce looks like a normal Mariah, how rude these people are. Because of that Stella's unprofessional management and wrong career decisions for Mariah, look what she did, Mariah just earned more hate. A new management is just the only hope for Mariah from all of this. It's heartbreaking.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 14:09)
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Re: Major events (72,572) (72,589)
by Lila from United States
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I agree. If nothing else, in my opinion, attending award shows and other events can be a good and easy way of keeping in the public eye, attached to music/entertainment and most likely make for good networking opportunities also. She should go to these events.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 14:04)
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Re: Mariah doing George Michael tribute / Grammys (72,586) (72,588)
by Licia from USA
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The difference in the Glitter era and now is that the Glitter team didn't accuse a major network and company of trying to sabotage her career. Yeah there was a rumor that everyone thought Tommy was doing it, but he's one man compared to a huge company. I agree with Eric. There's a chance she just simply wasn't invited. We really don't want to believe that, but it's a huge possibility. It would have been a nice surprise for her to be a part of both Prince and George's tributes, but I knew not to expect it.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 13:34)
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Re: Major events (72,572) (72,587)
by Malcolm from Asia
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But Benny seems very happy with JLo and really have a friendship beyond work and I think JLo's record sales don't matter to Benny anymore because she has other major side projects, and successful ventures at that. On a side note, seeing JLo on the Grammy's earlier seems weird to me, I don't know if this is the effect of the JLo vs. Mariah lol but whenever the spotlight is on her, she acts so gullible and I can feel the vibe that she wants the spotlight so much that she acts so extra. There's this one skit where James Corden invites JLo and other "real" singers to join him in a carpool karaoke, and I can't remember who it was but there's someone that giving the mic to Ms. Lopez for her to sing along but she refused and just do some poses and act beautiful instead.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 13:14)
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Re: Mariah doing George Michael tribute / Grammys (72,579) (72,586)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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They definitely won't be willing to take her but if they were persuasive enough or maybe pay up a little they could have accomplished that. Didn't her previous team get her to sing the National Anthem at the SuperBowl when her career was at an all time low during "Glitter" era? Now her team got her a little spot on Jimmy Kimmel, which is not even popular anymore, what with Fallon and Corden blowing up.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 13:04)
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Re: Grammy's (72,577) (72,585)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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We usually separate a Mariah performance from a Beyonce one because Beyonce is an all out performer while Mariah's sole selling point is her voice. But this Grammy performance is a perfect example of all the things Mariah should have tried and didn't. Beyonce basically did what Mariah usually does (minus the self touching) which is barely move yet she compensated with top class production and amazing choreography and visuals. Like who would have thought? She just walked around and yet seemed so powerful and extraordinary. While for Mariah it's always the shirtless dudes doing the usual moves and a little "pick me up, twirl me around" moment with zero vision really.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 13:02)
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Re: Major events (72,576) (72,584)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Haha I'm actually scared of the day Mariah will fire Stella because Stella won't take it easy. Her contour will become extra muddy with rage and her mess of a smokey eye will give out real smoke. You are right about the points though, every day I'm surprised at all the missed opportunities. Even some of her lambs have much stronger ideas and plans to get Mariah on track. Yet she employs this wannabe thug.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 12:58)
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Article: Sigala set to collaborate with Mariah Carey (72,583)
by Martyn from England, UK
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I'm actually quite surprised Mariah is interested in working with him, as his sound is very EDM, but I'm glad. He's current and I really enjoyed his sample of Always Be My Baby.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 12:58)
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Re: Grammy's (72,574) (72,582)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Mariah's team does take notes, but not the type you want, they are busy collecting green notes (i.e. money) wherever and whenever they can get it. Because Stella needs her 10% or 20% or whatever she charges Mariah.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 12:55)
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Re: Major events (72,576) (72,581)
by Gigi from USA
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Ugh, I'd rather see her and Da Brat together if that's the case. At least Da Brat is real, plus Mariah always seems so happy when she's around.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 12:30)
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Re: Grammy's (72,566) (72,580)
by Malcolm from Asia
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What if Stella wants to but Mariah is the one who declined? But I agree, even just her presence there and seeing her socializing with other artists will do her image good. I can say that the passion on her is still there but it's not like as it was back in the day and apparently it's not enough to make her go to these awards shows anymore, like literally she has her own world. Even Celine is there and it's nice how they introduces her for an event like this, it really fits for a legend like she is, but on the other hand, seeing Mariah's peers on those award shows makes me sad for her because she should've been treated like that, she should've been celebrated like that but nope, Mariah chooses the other direction. She's just so out of touch from the music industry, it's disappointing.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 12:28)
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Re: Mariah doing George Michael tribute / Grammys (72,575) (72,579)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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I find it strange that fans assume that if Mariah wants to perform at some awards show or tribute that the organisers are willing to invite her. After NYE I think many organisers would say "No, thanks." So maybe Mariah wanted to perform at the Grammys, but the organisers preferred Adele and Beyonce.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 12:24)
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Re: Major events (72,572) (72,578)
by Gigi from USA
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Exactly, Mimi L. I had a feeling Mariah wasn't going to be performing at the Grammys after I saw pictures of her at that party Saturday night bowling and drinking instead of resting her voice. I was still hopeful, though.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 12:20)
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Re: Grammy's (72,574) (72,577)
by Gigi from USA
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I'm also hoping Mariah watched the Grammys and decides to make some changes within her team. She deserves better.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 12:13)
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Re: Major events (72,572) (72,576)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Yup, Benny may be all of those, but unfortunately, there's a couple things he can't provide that Stella can in spades: 5. A creepy family with no respect for boundaries whatsoever. 4. A complete disregard for class and proper decorum. 3. Top-notch kiss-ass-ery. 2. Misled attempts at "female-empowerment". 1. Sweet lady kisses at night. (I really wouldn't be surprised if Marella are endgame, even if the relationship is actually one-sided - yeah, Stella, better find another.)
(Monday 13 February 2017; 12:07)
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Mariah doing George Michael tribute / Grammys (72,575)
by Sheila from United States
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Since Mariah's team is unprofessional and stupid, of course they would not use music's biggest night to prove Mariah can sing and get her some industry respect. Mariah is worst than Whitney before she passed. All time career low and Stella could care less.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 11:54)
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Grammy's (72,574)
by darrian liu from taiwan
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First of all, Adele is a very, very gracious person. Her acceptance speech for her Album of The Year award is so genuine and passionate. I agree with her that Lemonade should have won that award, but I don't mind that she won those big awards at all, because she's talented and she deserves those awards (although I was rooting for Beyonce, she was definitely snubbed). Also, can we talk about that beautiful Beyonce performance? That performance is so poignant. So graceful. From her restrained yet powerful vocals to the stunning visual effects to the delicate choreography, it was flawless. Adele's tribute to George Michael was also so, so beautiful. Mariah's team, take notes.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 11:50)
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Re: To Andrew (72,519) (72,573)
by Jamie from UK
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Amen.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 11:40)
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Major events (72,572)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I miss Mariah walking the red carpet at major events like award shows and all. I wish she'd just show up sometime and let her presence be known and maybe even get some inspiration from the performers. I feel like her being away from music related events is not really a good move. Can we get Benny Medina back? He gets JLo into every relevant show and everything (even when she has nothing to promote), and before you all bring up the "well did it help JLo's sales? Because Mariah sold more with MIAM than JLo's AKA", I am well aware of that but think about it, both Benny and Mariah have something and lack something. Mariah has the talent, the skills and the voice to make a big impact but she lacks the support team to push her work and to fix her image and to basically reinforce that she is a legend and a superstar (not a reality star). On the other hand, Benny has the skills, the connections, the drive and the ability to make to do exactly that but his client, that is Miss Lopez, lacks the skills, the talent and the voice. So simple solution really, give Stella to JLo and get Benny for Mariah. Because Benny plus Mariah is unstoppable. He can use his drive and connections and most importantly his management skills to really push Mariah's work and get her in all relevant places and make her presence known while Mariah can work on her end and provide the good songs and vocals.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 11:15)
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Re: Adele (72,564) (72,571)
by Gigi from USA
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No, I've read nothing but praise from everyone on Adele's George Michael tribute. To them - she continued singing and that was the most important thing. I love Adele, but I wish Mariah would've performed instead or at least made an appearance at the Grammys. It would've been a good opportunity to promote "I Don't" and the upcoming tour while on the red carpet.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 10:27)
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Re: Memoirs era interview (72,562) (72,570)
by Martyn from England, UK
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I was in the audience for that show. She was so much fun, and there were so many funny bits that didn't make it to the final edit. She also sang I Want To Know What Love Is live and she did it in one take which surprised me. I still have one of the golden butterflies that they shot out on the key change in my memories box.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 10:25)
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Re: New radio call in (72,556) (72,569)
by Luke from United Kingdom
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I agree with what you say that stars should be prepared for the cons of fame and celebrity but that doesn't make what goes on and what is said right. People go through things and hard times in their lives even them. I think it's unfair for us to expect Mariah to have her shit together 24/7. We only see the tip of what is going on in her life. I don't care what Mariah is wearing as long as she isn't hurting anyone, why on Earth should that give anyone the right to say things like that? Until she wears a sign on her head saying comment on my tits please, I won't agree with it. On one hand you say women shouldn't be subjected to remarks like that. But because Mariah is famous she should just sit back and let blokes say things about her like that or degrade her? I think we should be in a place where people like Mariah can still amaze people with her voice/talent, yet still be able to dress and live her life the way she wants to. It's not surprising some of these stars lose their minds when so many of us treat them like robots or animals, and that's just us. I can't imagine what it's like dealing with the twats that run that industry.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 9:32)
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Beyonce at the Grammys (72,568)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Wow, what a performance. Loser Tanaka take note. The woman barely moved yet she had one of the most powerful performance with stunning visuals and production. Beyonce actually has a team with a creative vision, same can't be said about the team surrounding Mariah. The same old lame old stuff are basically recycled in her case. Whether it's performances, or videos or promo plan. It really sucks.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 8:29)
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59th Grammys (72,567)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Adele is such a humble winner. 25 is a great album, but she's right - Lemonade is the real Album of the Year. You know something is wrong when even the winner herself cannot accept her own award. Beyoncé's time will come. Hopefully by then the Academy has finally learned how to choose truly deserving winners. And I'm not just saying this because they robbed Mariah of at least ten Grammys over the entire course of her career.
(Monday 13 February 2017; 7:59)
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