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"Mariah's un-shadiest moment" (72,701) by Billy from Greece This is for those who lately seem to reiterate the popular opinion that MC is a mean bitch, who is so insecure that she'll shade people for no reason. Girlfriend is just keeping it real. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 13:51)

Re: Grammys (72,683) (72,700) by Terna from Nigeria Exactly my point. You get it. Alanis today is irrelevant and is only remembered for Jagged Little Pill and moreso only the song Ironic. Mariah is so much more than just one era or one song. She has the most distinctive, successful eras, with classics from each one of those eras that will last forever. One fell by the way side, and the other soldiered on into greatness and royalty. There's no comparing. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 13:50)

Re: Grammys (72,681) (72,699) by MusicfanJ from Germany Nothing against Alanis, but I will never understand how an album with songs like Fantasy, One Sweet Day, Always be my baby, Underneath The Stars and Open Arms didn't win one award. Like Gee on this board said the jury of the Grammy's never liked Mariah and ignored her many times. MC has collected enough awards anyway. The Millennium Award inclusive. But no matter how many awards she's got, I can imagine she doesn't like the Grammy's because of the "debacle" of 96. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 13:49)

Re: Grammys (72,675) (72,698) by Terna from Nigeria "At that point she made one h*ll of an album." So did Mariah: "Daydream". An even bigger hit than "Jagged little pill" which only had Ironic the song that carried most of the album. Mariah 3 monster hits "Fantasy", "Always be my baby" and "One Sweet Day". The latter of which still holds a staggering record up until today. Plus the other two with their own equally impressive record breaking firsts (Fantasy's debut at No.1). So anyway you wanna spin it, Daydream was the bigger and better album. And no Mariah doesn't need an acoustic version of Daydream. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 13:30)

Re: 26 million viewers Grammy's missed opportunity (72,680) (72,697) by Shezz from Pk That was the Grammy nomination Christmas themed concert where she got zero nominations for E=MC2 and hasn't returned since as far as I remember. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 11:15)

Re: Valentie's Day treat (72,693) (72,696) by Lila from United States As always, these days, she could've kept every single one of those photos. I honestly thought, first time around, the V-Day pics she took were cute. It looked like she was just having fun. She was wearing a bra encrusted with those nasty tasting candy hearts lol and the bathroom she took them in was so cute, there was lots of glitter and balloons, so there was more of a cuteness to than anything. The Hershey kisses on this new bra pic make it look like she's trying to be an Austin Powers FemBot and at any moment she's going to shoot us all down. Also, I'm really trying not to be mean when I say this. I genuinely need the fans and public who buy into this Tonka Toy mess to get their brain checked. Nothing going on there, not even the rent that Tonka Toy doesn't pay. They're smiling but it's not reaching their eyes. Plus, judging by the emojis, the 13 year old took the picture. This is just the V-Day to end all V-Days, though. What woman doesn't want to slip on a swimsuit, hop into a bath tub, and drink, all the while a 13 year old snaps pics. I guess after dropping 100K on the house, she didn't feel like faking another "date" at Nobu that she'd have to foot the bill for. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 10:59)

Re: Beyoncé's isolated vocals on Grammys (72,689) (72,695) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Who is to say Stella isn't bringing in the drama herself for the "viral moments"? She seems to think anything that gets attention is good. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 10:10)

Re: Current era (72,684) (72,694) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I hope it's not because she actually didn't pick L.A.'s calls, like it was reported. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 10:08)

Valentie's Day treat (72,693) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter So obviously I was expecting some bath tub moments this V-Day since she already said she'll post some, so here's bath tub moment 1, here's bath tub moment 2 and here is Tanaka hot tub moment. Again, the only good thing I can say about these is Mariah's face, hair and makeup is on point. She looks gorgeous, I could do without the fishnets in the tub, I could also do without the nudity but it's Mariah's World. I hope this time when asked, she doesn't put the blame on Mishka saying "I was in the tub at 4 am and one of my employee's kids came in and took the pictures and posted it" and just admits it that she put it up there. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 8:40)

Lambs attack (72,692) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Lambs are going in on Stella on instagram and honestly I can't say I feel bad or sorry for her because she brought it on herself. What's sad is her kids are being called ugly names and are being dragged, which I don't support but Stella is to blame for this. She kept pushing Mishka in the spotlight and then had her brat moment out for public consumption on MW, and then constantly talking about how Mishka is the perfect employee for Mariah, when she could have kept all this low key and people wouldn't know. She knew lambs were not happy about a 13 year old handling Mariah's social media so then Mishka tried to provoke people more with posting the scandalous picture on her own account reinforcing that the pictures are taken by her. This girl, who is very pretty is now being called ugly and being called fat, all of which will ultimately have a bad effect on her. But I guess fame is everything to these people. Unfortunately they will never be the next Kardashians. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 8:34)

History isn't unmade (72,691) by Nikki from usa Music today is fast paced. If you're not coming up with new music than you're not on the radar. If Mariah retired years ago, she wouldn't even be remember now. The music industry is and has always been for a young audience of teens and early 20 somethings. Mariah's made history, her legacy is sealed, her accomplishments can't be undone. Mariah's not respected in the industry as far as the top echelon goes. She broke down barriers and contributed to the rap genres up-rise. That's part of the reason she was snubbed at the Grammys. It wasn't just Alanis, MC was up for 8 awards and didn't win a single one. Even the 2005 Grammys, MC wasn't allowed to accept her awards on stage, she had to grab them after the show and have pictures taken. She's had her time on top. Nearly 20 years of it. Why does everything she put out have to be the next thing to put her on the map? You guys claim she doesn't have to. You guys claim you just want good music. You even gave praise to MIAM, but when it didn't do well commercially you guys proved you're really not okay when the public isn't on board. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 7:54)

Re: John (72,690) by Nikki from usa Loverboy wasn't a fake #2 hit. It was the best selling song of the year and what Mottola paid to be omitted from papers is that it was the most expensive single of the year. Her maxi cost $13 a pop. The #1 song was Bootylicious which went on sale the same day Mariah's Loverboy did for the same 99 cent deal. Loverboy was the most requested song of the year on radio which is why she received the award for such by Radio Music Hall. Just because the music directors were bribed not to play it couldn't hide the sheer number of requests coming in for it. What happened in 2001 was proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the public perception can be controlled and if you say something enough, the people will believe it. The reality is that Loverboy was the biggest selling and most requested song of 2001. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 7:31)

Beyoncé's isolated vocals on Grammys (72,689) by Malcolm from Asia I quite sure Beyoncé's team did this to boost her credibility as a vocalist. Given the fact that Mariah's career is now into gimmicks and leaking stories and photos whatsoever, might as well do that too to help Mariah at least gain a little bit respect from the general public again. Leak an isolated vocals from Mariah's Vegas show or any concert that her vocals is on point, preferably Vision of Love because that's the only song that she's doing straight up live. Send it to TMZ or Daily Mail, we know Stella is so good at it. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 7:27)

Re: Grammys (72,675) (72,688) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Agreed. Jagged Little Pill was just as big a contender as Daydream was. While Daydream did contain a slew of (mega) hit singles, I can't say it's as relevant as JLP to this day, and by relevant I don't mean influence, but actual popularity. It's still the go-to post-breakup listening therapy for a lot of the younger audiences these days, whereas Daydream isn't even mentioned much, even though its songs do get some airplay. As a Mariah fan, a part of me will still be bitter about Grammys '96, but not because JLP won, but because Mariah didn't get squat. Not. Even. Just. One. Even if JLP was basically a lot of angst mostly expressed through yelping, it still holds up strongly to this day, just like Daydream does. It was the only album out of the nominees that I wouldn't mind Daydream losing to. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 7:21)

Should fans retire? (72,687) by Nikki from usa Why badger some else to live up to your expectations? Why would you think what an artist has done 20 years ago is something they want to recapture? A singer will always be a singer. Aretha and Patti are beyond their prime years, but that doesn't stop them from working. The very reason Mariah's had the success she has is due to her passion and drive for music. That's not something that fizzles out one day because you are no longer the public's darling. If that were the case she never would've come back from Glitter. That is career ending for most and the entire industry counted her out. If she didn't have the music in her or the drive to follow through 2001 would've been the last year you heard from her. Where she is isn't where everyone else is. I think some should face the fact that if they're looking for Mariah to retire than maybe your fandom already did. I still believe MC did retire in 1998. #1's was her send off of her commercialized career at that point where she came full circle right down to her collab with Whitney. From that point on she wouldn't have the full backing of Sony and she was going to do the type of music she liked for better or for worse. Which has been hit or miss for a lot of you ever since. Maybe it's time to face the music. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 7:13)

Re: Along the lines of #89 (72,668) (72,686) by Malcolm from Asia Besides the marriage thing, I think Mariah and her team became too comfortable with the massive success of TEOM that they believed any song that Mariah will release that time will be a hit. I just wish that the album was well-thought-out and not took it easy because there's so many potential hits there. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 6:56)

Re: Sad to say (72,651) (72,685) by Malcolm from Asia I agree. Imagine if she does all of that and just have the residency in Vegas, some occasional tours, few guestings on TV and appearances in those major award shows, her legacy and music will be much more appreciated. Look at Celine, I think that's the perfect example of a career fit for a legend. And if the situation was like that, who knows maybe she can release another album and it will be straight up to #1 as long as the main goal is to celebrate her success and the legacy and not to compete with the current pop stars and leotard bullsh*t. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 6:21)

Current era (72,684) by Manny from U.S. I've noticed LA Reid has been posting on IG promoting DJ Kahled's and Jay Z new single. I even saw a post of him with JLo a few weeks ago. He never posted anything on "I Don't". I wonder what is going on there. I know he mentioned something of her not selling. I'm paraphrasing. Is Mariah just releasing to get out of her contract? I wonder how her label really felt about this single and video. I don't like the song or video. I was hoping for more. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 5:20)

Re: Grammys (72,675) (72,683) by B from USA Alanis was deserving but to say Mariah wasn't during her peak for any award that is/was supposedly awarded to the best female vocalist is insane. She may not have deserved album or song of the year but she definitely deserved the awards for vocals in 1995. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 4:35)

Re: Sad to say (72,676) (72,682) by B from USA As long as she toured sporadically and if she was actually in charge of her social media accounts and interacted with her fans and occasionally performed and/or presented at events and acted in prestige films like Precious and The Butler I'd probably be fine with her semi retiring but I'd also always crave new music from her and I doubt she'll ever stop recording. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 4:32)

Re: Grammys (72,675) (72,681) by Edward from USA Great point T.J. We shouldn't judge an album based on whether the artist is popular today or not, but in terms of its content and quality. Mariah happened to be going against an excellent album. I love Daydream, but Jagged Little Pill was as great. Alanis didn't snatch those Grammys from Mariah, the people who didn't vote for her did. And Alanis still today is an excellent lyricist. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 4:00)

Re: 26 million viewers Grammy's missed opportunity (72,661) (72,680) by Tevin from USA She performed at the Grammys during the E=MC2 era. In fact I remember that performance because Mariah looked like she stepped into a time machine and brought her 1996 self there to perform, she looked amazing. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 2:50)

Anthony / Beyonce (72,679) by RibbonB from USA Congrats to Anthony Burrell. I hear he choreographed Beyonce's triumphant Grammy performance. The chair thing was scary, but it was all very effective, especially with her being pregnant. He is making good use of his time I see. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 1:59)

Re: The problem with Stella (72,671) (72,678) by Gigi from USA I'm going to respectfully disagree with you. Stella is an enabler, the Howard K. Stern of managers. She doesn't care one bit about Mariah's image or legacy. She creates bad situations for Mariah, so she can feel empowered to "save the day". As suggested on this board, I wouldn't be surprised if Stella is laughing behind the scenes along with the rest of the general public. As I was standing in line for my Meet & Greet photo opportunity last year I witnessed first hand how Stella walked into the photo room (during the middle of the M&G) to inform Mariah of some kind of bad news. I couldn't hear exactly what she was saying to Mariah, but I noticed it made her tear up. And of course Stella ended the conversation with, "I'll take care of it." Thank goodness my picture with Mariah still turned out great, but I always thought it was so strange that Stella felt the need to tell her bad news at that moment in time. She could have waited until the M&G was over so MC could enjoy her fans who paid to meet her without any distractions. I think Stella lies to Mariah to make situations seem better than they are, but in turn manipulates her into thinking things are only good because she made it that way. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 1:50)

Grammys (72,677) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I see that the Grammys have been a hot topic here since yesterday while MC could have attended the show why would she? She was not asked to participate in any tributes or present anything so I didn't see the point. On another note the Grammys have never really respected MC even during her peak and with her on the outside looking in at the popular crowd nowadays I didn't see her purpose being there. Was it a missed opportunity? Not really because award shows like these are all about politics. (Wednesday 15 February 2017; 1:33)

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