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Re: Billy (70,901) (70,905) by Edouard from France 12 minutes before midnight? Wouldn't she have been blamed even more? (Friday 6 January 2017; 14:10)

Re: MW (70,898) (70,904) by Licia from USA You all are really making me glad that I decided not to watch MW. In the beginning I felt like an unsupportive fan, but now not so much. Just reading your summaries make me cringe. It turned into the type of show I didn't want for Mariah. More about the drama and less about the artist. (Friday 6 January 2017; 14:05)

Basically (70,903) by Edouard from France Saying Tommy Mottola has a valid point, allowing ourselves to believe he has a right to say anything about Mariah, means that we absolutely have no idea what Mariah went through with that guy. I believe some of us do know, some of us actually care for Mariah, the person. I do. (Friday 6 January 2017; 13:29)

Re: Insecurity and childish nature (70,899) (70,902) by G.G. from USA This is Stella's time, what she's wanted from the very beginning. She wants to be the news story. She thinks all the interviews that she's doing will make her a famous tv personality. (Friday 6 January 2017; 13:23)

Re: Billy (70,892) (70,901) by Billy from England, UK If she was deaf she could have said "Stop I'm deaf." Was her mic working? Or just walk off, fix the problem and come back on. (Friday 6 January 2017; 13:21)

Re: Mariah's World episode 4 (70,897) (70,900) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter They spend so much time on the Molly story line and when it comes to Mariah's scenes, they are like flashes and random montages. Nothing makes sense. The show actually is what it was originally titled, and that is "Mariah's Squad". I absolutely don't get why Molly gets 40% of total screen time because she isn't even Mariah's assistant, she is' Stella's fake assistant. I was hoping for a more behind the scenes look at the tour and some official tour footage, instead we get messy scripted drama that a 5 year old wrote. (Friday 6 January 2017; 13:17)

Insecurity and childish nature (70,899) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Excerpt from an interview with Stella (why is she doing so many interviews by the way?): Bulochnikov got candid when speaking about Mariah's ex-husband and music manager Tommy Mottola, who said Mariah needed better professional help. Bulochnikov responded to the claim by saying, "Clearly Tommy Mottola is just looking for attention; maybe he and Jenny McCarthy should date. They'd make a perfect couple. I would love to know what cave Tommy Mottola climbed out of to start commenting. Tell Tommy Mottola if I wanted his opinion, I'd give it to him." Stella is firing up because she knows now her blunders has received worldwide attention and no one will really work with her after the mess she created in Mariah's career. Stella is also probably doing multiple interviews now because she probably thinks Mariah's ship is drowning (which it isn't, it'll take a lot more for that to happen) and so now she quickly needs to get her face and contour known and get exposure. Leech. Also I'm surprised when asked about if Mariah will perform at Trump's inauguration, Stella says "No body called us." Like woman you are making it sound like you would have considered it if they called. (Friday 6 January 2017; 12:43)

MW (70,898) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter The scene with Tanaka. At this point this show is not even a reality show, let alone a docu-series. It's a straight up soap opera. (Friday 6 January 2017; 12:24)

Mariah's World episode 4 (70,897) by Tiina from Finland This episode was the most boring and disappointing yet. I skipped a lot of it. They have no real material, so they just have to shove random stuff on the screen or follow the fake Molly storyline, which we could care less about. And don't even get me started on Tanaka. This guy makes Nick seem likeable. I hope that the relantionship truly is just a desperate stunt to gain views for the show. By the way, the clip of Mariah and her "superfan" was from Helsinki, not from Oslo. I finally got to see what happened after all of us were rushed away. I was cringing the whole time. I must say that all of my feelings of disappointment arose once again. It makes me upset that there were other fans who had brought gifts but were not allowed to give them to Mariah because they could not sneak them in. Nor were we allowed to stay and chat with her like that. There were strict rules: the schedule is extremely tight, so get in and get out. My picture with Mariah got botched because of it. And this guy was not the only person that Mariah's music has helped to transform. There were many fans there who would have wanted to share our stories and thank her in person. We certainly all paid to be there. The rest of us just didn't know to be calculative and opportunistic. Mariah and her team ate it all up, too, because it made good material for the show. It is what is. (Friday 6 January 2017; 12:20)

Re: Maybe we can contact Nick Cannon (70,888) (70,896) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter That's a great idea to contact Nick. He seems more hands on with his own social media, and has direct contact with MC. Definitely no to Brett Ratner. He got Mariah in the mess. Other options would be Lee Daniels, JD. I wish Oprah would sit Mariah down, or Patti. (Friday 6 January 2017; 12:20)

Re: Stella: A 360 view (70,893) (70,895) by MusicfanJ from Germany Marissa your view is excellent and 100% the way I feel about it. I wish Mariah could hear how we feel and that we are worried about her and her music legacy. (Friday 6 January 2017; 11:35)

Re: Stella: A 360 view (70,893) (70,894) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines So true. The lines are too blurred. Makes you wonder exactly how much Mariah saves as her current team is practically a multi-tasking one-stop shop - none of whom apparently have never heard of the word "boundaries" before. (Friday 6 January 2017; 10:46)

Stella: A 360 view (70,893) by Marissa from USA One of the biggest issues lambs have with Stella is that she has become Mariah's PR person, whether officially or unofficially. What happened to having a PR person that gave politically correct, professional statements to the public? Since when does a manager double as PR, especially one as crass and belligerent as Stella? This whole all-purpose job role irrespective of her weaknesses has got to go. If she just managed and that's it (no interviews, no TV roles, no obnoxious Instagram posts), I think most people would find her at least slightly tolerable. The only reason lambs immediately dragged Stella after NYE was because she's constantly shoved herself down our throats by chasing fame, so we knew exactly where to look when shit popped off. In an interview she said that she came on the scene only because she wanted to help Mariah extend her brand into different areas beyond music. Dealing with Mariah's music career was just a necessary evil, so it's not surprising that music has been neglected during this entire era. Her intention was never to boost MC's music career and she's admitted that herself, but that's the issue. She's more passionate about dragging MC into TV than she is about helping her dominate music, the reason why we became fans in the first place. Without these TV and movie projects, Stella's irrelevant and out of her league, so she has to keep MC booked with side-projects so she looks like she's indispensable. The bottom line is that MC can't do anything as well as she can sing and songwrite. No one is checking for her directing, producing or acting besides a few lambs, and if you suggest any of these things to the general public they usually just laugh. The running theme in MC's camp is people biting off more than they can chew in their roles. A TV producer managing music, a 13 year old managing social media, a dancer doubling as a boyfriend. The lines are too blurred. I do think that Stella has leadership qualities and could do someone good as their manager, just no musicians, especially not of Mariah's caliber because she doesn't know shit about music or tact. I think she'd be a good manager for a person who's only a reality star, because all of the antics she starts could easily be spun for ratings. She does know how to boost a person's relevance at all costs, but she doesn't get that that formula only truly benefits people who have nothing to lose, not legends. If someone like Kim K goes from being in a sex tape to having her own show, game, stores, etc. that's a come up because she didn't have shit to begin with. If Mariah goes from having 18 #1 hits, a flawless voice and 200+ million records sold to forcing her backup dancer to pick her up and kiss her on the beach for staged photos, that's an L. (Friday 6 January 2017; 9:41)

Re: Billy (70,892) by Nikki from usa Mariah couldn't have done that. She was deaf, not confused about her lyrics. (Friday 6 January 2017; 8:47)

Really Tommy? Stella shush, MC's recovery (70,891) by Nikki from usa That's funny coming from a guy who tried ruining her career. However, not only is he right, but it's nothing different than most of us on this board have been saying for awhile now. I appreciate MC willing to give people a shot and not firing at the first mistake, but you need to surround yourself with people qualified to do their jobs if you don't want to do their jobs for them. I thought she learned that lesson from Glitter. Everyone but one actor had ever acted before and the director only had 2 movies under his belt. I'm sure Stella came at a time when MC was down and she got used to the family moment. Even if Mariah thinks Stella might not be her best option now, I'm wondering if Stella knows to much for MC to risk letting her go. Simply because Stella loves drama. Maybe help give Stella her own reality show to keep her busy and only keep her around for anything not to do with music or management parts of career. If you want to hear what Mariah would sound like "winging it" than check out the 2014 debacle - that's Mariah singing deaf. She was off and on. That's why you can't sing as a professional singer while deaf. After that she's done over 100 great performances to redeem herself, but the gp doesn't notice. Because, Mariah's recovery has to be as grand and exposed as her fall. Mariah should open a major worldwide televised event with all the live if not acoustic bells and whistles completely by surprise when nobody knew she was even going to perform there. This was another Glitter moment, time to TEOM this s**t. (Friday 6 January 2017; 8:46)

Let's move on, make it work PR Team (70,890) by Ethan from United States The only one thing to redeem the NYE's performance is the PR team needs to get Mariah perform live (at least 75% of it) at the Grammys this year, paying tribute to Prince and/or George Michael. Good luck Stellaif you're reading this. On than that, I'll see her on tour with Lionel Richie this spring. I can't wait for the ballads and Endless Love. Anyway, either way she's getting media coverage. (Friday 6 January 2017; 8:39)

Tommy (70,889) by darrian liu from taiwan His message for Mariah is solid. Perhaps once more she should do what Tommy tells her to do, just one last time. It would serve her greatly. (Friday 6 January 2017; 6:49)

Maybe we can contact Nick Cannon (70,888) by DreamLove from USA I was thinking about how we can reach Mariah Carey to tell her how we feel about her manager/team. We know we can't say anything to her via social media because Stella has all of that on lock and probably all the fan letters too. I know Nick Cannon might not have direct access to his stuff but enough letters/messages might make its way to him and he might say something to her (maybe). Should we write Brett Ratner, Randy Jackson, Da Brat? What as fans can we do to get our message across about Stella? Any suggestions? (Friday 6 January 2017; 5:57)

Tommy vs Stella (70,887) by tadatorao from japan Mariah has claimed for years that Tommy has controlled and imprisoned her. I hope she would soon realize Stella is doing the same to her, just on a more abusive, hyprocritic and devastating level. (Friday 6 January 2017; 5:53)

Re: Mariah the psychic (70,873) (70,886) by Dennis from Miami, FL After reading Tommy's statemen I can't get Subtle Invitation out of my head. Tommy is making Mariah a subtle invitation "If she hurts you or misleads you all you need to do is call me." And part about Stella is "She's a damn fool." (Friday 6 January 2017; 3:26)

Trending (70,885) by G.G. from USA With all the backlash Stella is getting right now for her unprofessional, self serving behaviour, this is the time to make it happen. We need to get #firestella trending on Twitter and Instagram. Maybe, making a well publicized fuss about Stella at this specific time will open Mariah's eyes. (Friday 6 January 2017; 2:49)

Mariah Carey's legacy in critical condition (70,884) by Jono from USA I've allowed a few days since the debacle to process my thoughts. But basically I have this to say: not just her career, but her legacy is in critical condition. When Mariah had issues in the past, whether they be personal or professional, there was never a doubt that she couldn't sing. All it took was that one hit or performance for people to remember what she could do. But now, the very thing that made her famous is now the very thing that is destroying her. The irony is apparent. She has reached a crossroads in her life where she decides which direction to go. If anyone finds the humble girl who put her music above everything else, please let her know she is dearly missed. I just want to leave this right here, which is interesting considering where we are now with her. (Friday 6 January 2017; 0:55)

NYE performance (70,883) by Billy from England, UK Mariah should have done this. (Friday 6 January 2017; 0:16)

Stella hungry for fame article (70,882) by Shezz from Pk Haha I wonder who Page Six spoke to. Danielle? Anthony? Funny how it says exactly what we have been saying and speculating. She's in too deep with Stella. Ribbon I totally agree to keep Stella to manage Mariah's tv/movie projects and get someone else for music (though it seems like she wants to take a break from it for now and focus on these other projects which frankly she has been talking about pre Stella). (Thursday 5 January 2017; 23:40)

Re: Blind Gossip article (70,871) (70,881) by Lila from United States Let's dead this conversation because I have no time for lies and fallacies. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 23:31)

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