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Where will she go from here? (70,880) by Tijl from Belgium After a truly fantastic celebration of the New Year there was definite backlash upon reading what had happened across the Atlantic. Both cringeworthy and tragic, the NYE incident is exactly what needed to happen to Mariah, especially since she didn't take a lesson from the Rockefeller performance two years earlier. I honestly adore and love this woman but over the last year my admiration has cooled down considerably as her attributions have been focused merely on sideprojects than on music, the latest tour as an exception. The reactions in the media are blown out of proportion as I do believe there have been technical mishaps on stage that night. However her reputation is now completely covered with - glittery - mud if not shot to hell. My thoughts are with her and I pray she will make some much needed and intelligent decisions to save and redeem her career. Mariah, I beg you: - Get rid of the Russian general as she is not considering your career but merely hers. - Take some time off and step away from endorsements, don't do interviews or anything. Get under the radar and build up some mystery and prepare for a truly amazing comeback. - Get back to your inner soul and do what you do best: writing inspirational music that you sing from from the heart. - Become the butterfly you are and understand how beautiful you are. No need to give up the ensembles but dahling you would blow everybody away in some proper couture. I enjoy ya, appreciate ya and luv ya but Mimi, it's time for a real emancipation. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 23:29)

Wow - this article (70,879) by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago I don't think I've ever read an article as fair or as on point as this. I hope it finds its way to her. I just tweeted it, but we know how that goes. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 23:08)

I want to know (70,878) by Dennis from Miami, FL Dear webmaster, just for fun, I ask you to confirm or deny only. Do the Stella defenders have US IPs? It's getting more and more bizarre how they kiss each other's behinds. [Webmaster: I know their ip-numbers, but I don't know where they come from. I was thinking the same. Maybe I should have a new emoticon of kissing asses.] (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:58)

Re: Stella's backlash (70,840) (70,877) by yiorgos from Germany , Berlin But she could be even worse to keep her plus she definetely has a confidentially agreement. And also she already has gotten what she wanted. We all know her now. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:56)

Re: Tommy Mottola (70,866) (70,876) by yiorgos from Germany , Berlin You are so right, Stella yes defends her but with such a bad manner that sometimes would be better not to. Mariah in the past was always keeping it classy as well her reps. Now Stella goes out all furious or upset talking in a way that ends up being embarassing and definetely not respectable. She talks more like an desperate housewife with low class than then manager of one of the greatest and most succesful artists, a living legend, that she should. But Mariah seems to trust her blindly. Hopefully she will realize soon. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:47)

Re: Tommy has a point (70,867) (70,875) by MusicfanJ from Germany I was watching a TV-special about the 90ies. Mariah was praised for that period. The last comment was that now she's only known for being a diva and that James Packer "debacle". Mariah is too precious as a "brand" and too talented for that horrible management she has now. Like Bill on this board said, just watch the Daydream tour, listen to her best songs, the remixes, her whole music catalogue and then take a look at the reality show created by Stella. It's unbelievable, like a nightmare. I have never seen a person less professional. (The vulgar comments from her.) I was shocked. If that is Mariah's goal: bravo. Mariah's career is too big and unique to get to this level. I wish Mariah would think about the comment from Tommy. What must happen that she is realizing something has to change? We love Mariah and that's the reason we all care and want the best things to happen. I'm so fed up with the latest "headlines". And with the circus MC is surrounded with. I have to calm down but Mr. Mottola hit the nerve. To quote MC: I still believe that every after storm a rainbow appears. Well it's a big storm. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:45)

Re: Tommy has a point (70,867) (70,874) by yiorgos from Germany , Berlin Never liked Tommy and sure Mariah had suffered next to him, but apart from their personal relationship he knows the bussines inside out and sure he admires Mariah. I don't think that at this point he likes seeing her suffer through that mess and in his message he is actually supporting her and defending her he is just stating the obvious. This could happen to anyone but an artist like Mariah should have a team that would minimize the chances and be able to protect her. All those months Mariah has been unprotected whenever something goes wrong she stayes exposed. Her team (Stella and co) should have made sure that the tech part is on point or even push to cut for commercial or even after to deal with the crisis and a mess in a more respectable way and not with statements against DC including the F word etc etc. But we are talking about the same team that let here be late on a concert because they didnt know the time differance. Her public image hasn't been protected and definitely her integrity has been even more damaged since Stella, because she seems either not to know how to deal with or she just belives that all those gossip and cheap publicity is good but Mariah is not Kim Kardashian or a new artist that needs that kind of exposure. She went to Sony and they made some great moves to restore her image and then Stella came to let her exposed to the media so they can cut her in peaced every second week. So yes Tommy is saying just the obvious Mariah deserves a team of professionals not a kindergarden. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:40)

Mariah the psychic (70,873) by Lara from Middle East Some of her songs' lyrics are kind of psychic. "You're so Cold" could work for Tommy , "Love story" with Nick, "Thirsty" for Stella and Tanaka, "Clown" for her actual self. Let me know if you have other suggestions. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:38)

Re: Blind Gossip article (70,871) (70,872) by Edward from USA Nick and Mariah are friends, and seem to be co-parenting very well. Only they know what happened between them, the rest is pure speculation. Mariah wasn't a damsel in distress when Nick met her, she was a grown ass woman, even older than Nick and very well seasoned. Listening to his version of the way they were when they were a couple is as interesting as listening to Mariah and her alleged diss songs. The truth is usually right in the middle. So, there's nobody to demonize here, they got into it, they were happily married for six years, and they ended it. It takes two to tango. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:37)

Re: Blind Gossip article (70,848) (70,871) by Dennis from Miami, FL Nick caught Mariah in her insecure moment and abused her. I don't say it's the universal truth. That is what my experience is telling me. I wanted to say more, but I don't want to talk about another artist. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:08)

Re: Article: Tommy Mottola says ex-wife Mariah Carey needs help (70,859) (70,870) by Edouard from France Totally agree with you Betty . (Thursday 5 January 2017; 21:26)

Bright side (70,869) by RibbonB from USA If TM helps the bulk of the fans who were Stella supporters flip to what many of us have been saying, then his public message will have done some good. The only thing that will work is if fans converge in some sort of unity around Mariah, not Stella like many have been doing. This mess has always been destined for no good, but many supported it blindly. Stella has never been right, or built to manage Mariah and Randy Jackson saw that and as Lee Daniels said sometimes geniuses need to be saved from themselves. I have never liked how Wendy Williams treated Mariah in the past, but even she has been spot on all year about this stuff. Stella has gotten her launching pad, now she will have to sink or swim. M. can make it, but she will have to cut the lifeline she has been giving to Stella and crew at some point. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 21:11)

Is Mariah having a midlife crisis? (70,868) by Cgee54 from Usa I'm afraid Mariah may be having a midlife crisis. Think about body suits, younger man (still don't buy that relationship), ageism, and vocal problems. I don't blame, her many people will go through a midlife crisis but luckily most of us won't live ours through cameras. I'm hoping she will get through this and realize her mistakes and get it together. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 21:09)

Tommy has a point (70,867) by Mirage from Unicornatopia We all know Tommy is speaking the truth. The fact that he is even commenting is telling as to a) how bad Stella is, b) the fact that he genuinely believes something is wrong, and c) the fact that he clearly thinks Mariah is damaging a career that both he and she built. Tommy very rarely comments on Mariah, and was very complimentary of her in his book. If it was not Tommy, and was LA Reid making this statement, everyone would agree with what he has said. Say what you want about Tommy, but he is brilliant at what he does. I think we as Mariah fans may need to get a petition started to get rid of Stella. She is a disgusting, trashy, thirst bucket, and is not befitting of managing a pig in a travelling circus, let alone Mariah Carey. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 20:59)

Re: Tommy Mottola (70,849) (70,866) by Bill from the UK Tommy's statement was genius of course, but then he is a genius mind. If anything it serves as a reminder to all who may have forgotten that her most successful period was under his guidance. There is probably an element of guilt associated with it too. He must look at the Mariah of today and realise he set her down that path because of his overbearing nature when they were married. The irony in Stella's response, insulting him because of his age etc., just further helped to prove his point though about the type of people MC has chosen to manage her career. Look, Stella clearly has Mariah's back and fends off who she deems to be haters and attackers and bad press, which is somewhat noble of her, but the manner in which she does it is just embarrassing and low rent. Mariah's established, revered and aspirational career is all but finished now, and that legacy she had is all but forgotten. No casual spectators know of the Daydream tour, the groundbreaking Fantasy remix, the spectacular live specials, the brilliant back catalogue of expertly crafted songs, the career defining approach to remixes. All she's known as now is a vain egocentric with an attitude who gets wheeled out every December to sing All I Want for Christmas Is You a few times, then gets hoisted back up to Mount Diva to hibernate for 11 months. That's the tragedy of this whole thing. We are literally watching the career she worked so hard to achieve slip through her hands, destroyed by her own doing. And Jesus was a cross maker. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 20:13)

Wise words (70,865) by Jamie from UK I agree with Tommy, after all that's gone on he clearly still cares about her career path. He's right she needs to step back and think about what she wants to do. Yes she has been very successful, but she's loosing credibility with these things that keep happening. The voice is still there, when she sings acapella at concerts it's clear she can still sing. I think she should do a love songs album, something where she can show off her voice again with meaningful quality songs. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 20:02)

Stella ain't leaving (70,864) by Carlos from Brazil So apparently there is a made for television movie about Mariah's life and career and (where is the drumroll) a second season for Mariah's World. The secret (so why tell it?) projects were discussed by our beloved Stella in an interview with ET. The movie seems an interesting idea but everything that comes from her current team seems tacky and destined to flop. Also the projects looks far from being related to new music. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 19:53)

Re: Like him or not (70,853) (70,863) by Special K from USA I have a feeling Mimi might be listening a little bit. Hopefully someone like Russell Simmons or even Oprah (like Ribbon mentioned) is in Mariah's ear repeating some of the same things. Patti Labelle need to come get her goddaughter quick. What Tommy wrote was powerfully positive and he did put things into perspective about Mariah's career. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 19:46)

Re: Stella's backlash (70,840) (70,862) by Special K from USA Naw she wouldn't say anything. If she did, no other artist would ever in life ever work with her in the industry. Artists fire management teams all of the time. It's the nature of the business. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 19:23)

Knock knock, having a blond moment? (70,861) by Edward from USA Those who are talking shit about Tommy and his open letter are missing the point. What some of the "super-lambs" should consider is whether the advice is something you would agree with if it hadn't come from him. Focus on the advice, and not just on the parts you don't like about it just because it's coming from Tommy. Some of you decide to bypass the part where he speaks highly of Mariah. Tommy's advice is what we've been regurgitating for long time now, Marissa even put together well-intention petition that fell in deaf ears, but now we have a way to make this message heard and all you focus is who the [censored] advice is coming from? It's ridi-[censored]-diculous. If Tommy said Mariah should keep Stella, I would be the first one to oppose it, but he's just giving her a great and free advice. Even though they didn't work as a couple, he helped Mariah developed her brand to a point where she could fly away freely on her own. Many artists were dropped from the Sony roster so they could invest in Mariah, because he saw her potential, so let's not pretend the man is not partially responsible for her success. There are many talented, beautiful, gifted vocalists and lyricists out there, but they never got the muscle behind then to build their careers. It took an incredible talent like Mariah and a visionary like Tommy to turn Mariah into a mega star. So from a business perspective do not dismiss the voice of experience and wisdom. On a side note, even though Beyoncé is nowhere near as talented as Mariah, let's not pretend Mariah is more popular and relevant than her when the woman drops an album and within a week sells a million, her brand is almost impeccable, her videos are great and well produced. Yes, exactly the way Mariah used to be. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 19:16)

Madonna biopic too? (70,860) by RibbonB from USA The tragic irony that a Madonna biopic is also in the works and produced by none other than James Packer and Ratpac. This is too rich. Mariah needs to take a break. Lol. I wish she and dem babies and hell even Nick would retreat, luxuriate in the Bahamas for a year. Clean house, clean slate, clean bill of health. Just sit out 2017. It'll never happen, but would do a body good, better than her getting that Kanye type 5150 rest. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 19:08)

Article: Tommy Mottola says ex-wife Mariah Carey needs help (70,859) by Betty from Canada I have been a lamb since 1990 and absolutely adore MC always and forever, so while Tommy's comments may be reasonable from his point of view, I will always support MC's decisions as long as she is happy. Her professional success is not more important than her own personal happiness. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 18:47)

Re: Tommy defends Mariah and gives his 2 cents (70,841) (70,858) by Mike from FL, USA I can't believe Stella is now trash talking Tommy. Calling him names when he is at least 50% responsible for Mariah's early successes is a bit flippant to say the least. I do think Stella has done some good - of course the bad does seem to outweigh most of the good - but I think it was so disrespectful calling Tommy names and attempting to put him down. The man knows what he is talking about. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 18:41)

Re: Article: Tommy Mottola says ex-wife Mariah Carey needs help (70,822) (70,857) by Shezz from Pk Isn't this what most of us have been saying all this time? This was a very thinly veiled "Ditch Stella ASAP" call but now that Tommy is saying it, it's the truth. Mariah is a brand that clearly needs to be managed and when managed well she has proven to be highly successful. So yes these last 2 years are a result of terrible management by Stella and so Mariah's fault because she hired her. Problem is that she is now living in an impenetrable Bulochnikov world so there's no way anyone is getting through to her since she never ever leaves her side probably afraid that someone might take her Russian red tinted glasses off. I understand that Mariah loves her and her family and probably feels she needs them. I'm scared there's no way out. Funny how Wendy is calling Stella out as well and saying the only decent member of her team is Kristopher. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 18:41)

Re: Article: Tommy Mottola says ex-wife Mariah Carey needs help (70,830) (70,856) by Liz Archer from Sweden You know, I hate to say this but, I totally agree some of what he is saying. To me it seems like she is dealing with very unprofessional or unqualified people (that doesn't know what they are doing). That, or she doesn't control every part of her business as an artist should do. I have often wondered why things are not promoted enough. You know, I have tons of innovated ideas that she could do to build up her fans again and creativity but I doubt she will listen. And frankly I am scared that she likes Stella too much and won't act accordingly. Stella is very unprofessional. You can't tell press or who ever you are working with to piss off. Her languish and the way she presents herself, speaks a lot of what is going wrong. To me it seems like she is good at yelling and sucking up, but not making sure to run a well oil machine. The mistakes that has been done under her watch speaks for itself. Yes, it is difficult to get good people. Sighs, just my rant. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 18:32)

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