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Andrew, what do you like about Mariah? (47,455) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End I'm curious about what you and your cosigners actually enjoy about Mariah. Please enlighten this board of any and all reasons why you are constantly being so personally offended that she is still singing and making music. You do not speak for the public anymore than I do so stop billing yourself as the spokesperson for the populus with your negativity. We all know Mariah isn't speaking of you and your ilk when she refers to her loyal lambs. That would be delusional right? You are the one who is an embarrassment with your passive aggressive jabs at Mariah on a message board dedicated entirely to her and those of us who appreciate her as an artist and human being. You ain't slick. (Thursday 16 October 2014; 6:30)

New articles / fanning the fires (47,454) by cBerr from Canada I have been biting my tongue for a while now, but I can't be quiet anymore. While I'm all for constructive discussions on the current "era", I can't help but feel a little disappointed when fansites post articles like the one posted today on this site (re: MC net worth better after divorce?). I mean could this article be anymore desperate? As if Mariah would ever need to request alimony from Nick or vice-versa for that matter. Nick is quite successful himself. Posting these articles just adds more fuel to the fire and it is akin to a spreading virus. It doesn't mean the article is credible, just more likely to appear higher within a search engine and then blogs, sites like TMZ and that gossip-whore Wendy run with it as if it were true. Am I alone in my thinking here? (Thursday 16 October 2014; 6:00)

Breadwinner article (47,453) by LC from USA Anyway, this article made me laugh out loud. Nick is the breadwinner? Really? When Mariah made $18 million for one season of Idol? Made 3 million for 8 songs at a private concert? 2 million for four songs at a wedding? Then, this tour, which is bound to gross over $25 million worldwide? And every Christmas, she makes $500,000 from royalties of AIWFCIY and sells 400,000 albums in back catalogue sales every year? Then, there are the fragrances and her cosmetics, which have grossed $150 million all over the world since 2008? And Nick is the breadwinner? Lol. (Thursday 16 October 2014; 2:01)

Andrew (47,452) by LC from USA Yes, yes we get it. Mariah is over. She will never be a superstar again. Nobody likes her except the delusional lambs of the world. Her music is trash. She is trash. MIAM is a flop that will never be successful because no one cares for her or her music anymore. Yes, you've said it all before. We get it. Try something new next time, ok? And maybe, if you are so annoyed by the "delusions" of others, you should ignore them and move along. I want new songs from Mariah and I want her to get success again, so if there is a rerelease, which if you paid attention was all speculation and fun, I will be very excited and happy and you, of course, won't. I am still hopeful. Abraham is still hopeful. You... well, you're hopeless. Have a nice life, hon. (Thursday 16 October 2014; 1:57)

Mariah media slander-palooza plus MIAM rebirth (47,451) by M from UK One of the most talented, respected and accomplished artists of all time's reputation is now in the hands of sweaty bored and lonely bloggers, jealous merit-less haters and 14 year old millennials who have no idea of why she is in fact Mariah Carey. Mariah and we are way too tough to let it effect us. The (yet to be confirmed by Mariah or Def Jam) MIAM re-release plus DJ Clue produced single seems to be a pretty strong idea. And if anything quite solid seeing that Mariah usually has an amazing Christmas surprise for us. With adequate promo, a strong and confident video would allow for MC to travel to Europe and the US with the tour, push more albums out of the door since the majority of the public seem to claim to not even know that she has a new album out. .A campaign to debut at #1 instead of #3 with a larger first week sales number is very possible. So is the idea of us being able to generally enjoy this era instead of constantly acting a Mariah's career strategist which tends to just ruin the whole experience. The other thing I would love to see anytime now is for Mariah to break her silence. Artists these days are praised for standing up for themselves and can usually be seen to be a quick media fix plus stops all speculation in its tracks before it becomes too damaging. Mariah has successfully done this in the past, and we all know how strong minded she is. So let's hope that is the first thing to come out of this era re-launch. (Thursday 16 October 2014; 1:17)

Man (47,450) by Lee from USA Hollywood Take needs do more research on Mimi's net worth. She is worth over $500 million. (Thursday 16 October 2014; 1:01)

Andrew [censored] (47,449) by Abraham from USA Were you referring to me? If so, address it directly to me. I meant that if a re release of the album happened, I'd want a whole brand new album, instead of just a few new songs. The rest of your comment makes no sense as they usually don't. I don't know what you're still doing here, wasting your time posting. No one really cares for you. You're negative and never have anything nice to say. Why don't you just beat it. (Thursday 16 October 2014; 0:15)

Got to be real (47,448) by Andrew from UK Really great topic in how someone would prefer a track listing on an album. It's weird to not imagine one song following another (you hear the next song before the current ones finished, right?). Interesting topic though and I like the Butterfly reshuffle. Me I Am woul profit from a massive permanent reshuffle. On that note. Re-release? This is some crazy deluded idea of people who can't admit failure. It's bombed. Neither that type of music, or Mariah as an artist, is what the populous want. So if "it's for the fans" let it be. If "Mariah doesn't care about sales" let it be. The public don't want it. Would be another embarrassment. As for the tour supporting sales a la Beyoncé-castle. Her tour wasn't a worldwide negative media trouncing. If it *is* going to come back, if the record vocals *were* real, let her disappear have a rethink and write songs people want to hear on the radio and that she can produce within the range she can hit. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 23:09)

Mariah (47,447) by B from USA This is from a review of Charmbracelet back in 2002: Whenever she sings, there's a raspy whistle behind her thin voice and she strains to make notes throughout the record. Her voice is damaged, and there's not a moment where it sounds strong or inviting. Mariah's voice recovered and sounded amazing after The Charmbracelet World Tour. I think she going to release a new album next year. People need to stop debating the state of Mariah's voice. Move on. New topic, please. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 22:16)

Butterfly re-shuffled (47,446) by Bill from the UK With Butterfly's anniversary only passing recently, I wanted to share something I occasionally do with albums I like. I play them on Shuffle, and see what the new track listing order is, and see how it works. Being born in the early 80s, even now I still divide every album into "sides". Here is what Mariah's album looked like, it was quite a different experience. You all should try it. My all Fly away Honey Fourth of July Babydoll Whenever you call The beautiful ones Butterfly Breakdown The roof Outside Close my eyes Close My Eyes made quite a good closing number, and for me having The Roof towards the back end of the album just seemed to make it shine all the more. Mariah's albums don't usually open with a ballad so being drawn in with the silky My All was great. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 18:41)

Don't Explain in South Korea (47,445) by Geronimo from USA People have focused so much on a couple bad shows that I almost missed something impressive. Mariah's rendition of Don't Explain in South Korea is mesmerizing. Check it out. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 18:13)

Abraham / Mariah's age (47,444) by LC from USA Thanks, Abraham. That's really nice of you to say. I really hope we get to hear all of those songs someday. As for Mariah's age, I think she was born in 1970. Even her own mother has said she was born then, when she and Mariah were on Oprah to talk about racism. Here's the video where she says it. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 15:57)

Def Jam CEO Steve Bartels (47,443) by Lee TS from USA I spoke with Billboard: What do you think happened with Carey's latest album, which spent just eight weeks on the Billboard 100, her shortest stay for a studio LP? Listen, sometimes an artist - and in the case of Mariah, an artist I've worked with for 10 years - makes an amazing album that just doesn't connect with the audience. Of course that is very disappointing, but it would be impossible to pinpoint that down to just one thing. I've enjoyed incredible success with Mariah and many of those hit songs and albums have made Billboard history. But this latest effort just didn't go all the way. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 15:54)

The age thing (47,442) by Isabelle from USA Have you people ever thought that Mariah doesn't like talking about her actual age so people would discourage her music and stuff. Ageism and sexism in the music are big impact for women in music. You never hear male artist trying to avoid are being discussed about their age because it doesn't have a major influence on them trying to sell music. When Mariah tries to do a type of music that is on radio, people start bring the age thing. And when somebody like Jay Z, who is the same age as Mariah, people don't say anything or mention anything about his age, like they do to women. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 12:51)

Mariah is 17, now stop it (47,441) by Lee TS from USA MC will never admit her age and she is uber sensitive about it. I remember watching a clip of her on Rosie's show and she couldn't even accept being 27, like really? She always get uncomfortable when it's brought up and automatically goes to being eternally 12. The only time I remember her somewhat acknowledging it was when being interviewed for being American Idol and saying she's lived her dream for more than half her life. I can imagine when Monroe blossoms into a young beautiful teen and refers to MC as her sister. Mariah would be the Amy Poehler in Meangirls, kidding. It also brought up my initial thought of MC being inducted into Rock and Roll hall of fame, I think she would reject the idea until a lot later on. And Ms. Wendy Williams is forever picking on Mariah about it. On the topic of age, just for fun, how would you all feel if MC goes the Madonna/JLo route and dates a 25 year old boytoy? (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 12:08)

Abraham and LC, MimiLamb? (47,440) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA Abraham. Thank you. I completely agree with you and LC. I think a rerelease with promotion is what Mariah really needs. I was researching a Mariah post and something caught my interest. As stated and from what we know Beyonce's music career was declining before Beyonce decided to begin her Mrs. Carter world tour in fall of 2013. While touring Beyonce then released her record setting album Beyonce in December of 2013. The editor of the article was comparing Beyonce's tour hype and how that impacted her sales success. The editor thinks Mariah realized the only way to promote her music is by touring. I don't think it's the only way but it seems most realistic for her at this time. It's a smart sales tactic. A re release makes perfect sense. I made a mistake on mispelling a name earlier on this post. I said mimilanb, I meant MimiL. Sorry. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 10:37)

MC cameo (47,439) by Billy from Greece (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 10:15)

Roc and Roe (47,438) by Bill from the UK That video Mariah posted of her children was lovely. What an adorable pair. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 9:49)

Mariah's age (47,437) by Bill from the UK The "extra year" all came about after a journalist for People magazine I believe, said Mariah's drivers license had her birth date as 27 March 1969. In Tina Arena's autobiography, she wrote that when Tommy Motolla met her, he said to her "you're 22 now" when she was actually 27 at the time. She didn't go with it, but maybe it was good marketing at the time to have her be 20 and born "in the seventies"? This could explain why Mariah is forever dodging the question about her age (anniversaries, eternally 12 etc.) and hasn't admitted what her age is since divorcing Tommy. Maybe she doesn't like lying so just avoids it altogether. The one thing to say all this is nonsense though is Mariah's mother naming her Mariah after the song "They Call the Wind Mariah", which was out in 1970. Unless of course that was an elaborate hoax to explain her great stage name, and she was really called Maria or something, but that is far fetched and something one of my friends theorises about. I'm sure she was born in 1970, named after the song, and is 44. [Webmaster: See also the How old is Mariah? article from 2007 and the How old is Mariah Carey? 40 or 41? article from 2010.] (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 9:39)

Travon / LC (47,436) by Abraham from USA Hi friend, I'm sorry I skipped your post, I sometimes do that, I don't always read every post on here, but I appreciate your kind words. I hope you keep posting because I like what you bring to the messageboard, LC you're right, I also recall Mariah mentioning the song "Kick rocks". There was also another rumored tracklist that had songs named "Mesmerized" and "Illusions". I hope if a re release does take place, Mariah releases "I'll still be around" or "Save the day" if they were actual songs. Now that Mariah's lost weight, and more and likely will lose more, by December or next year, she will feel comfortable enough to shoot a video. I'd definitely like a brand new 14 album tracklist with some cool collaborations and ballads. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 4:16)

Mariah is age 44 (47,435) by Dan from US Why are articles online saying she is 45? I don't understand why it's not 44. (Wednesday 15 October 2014; 3:15)

Mimi L. (47,434) by LC from USA I mean, I know that this conversation is kinda long overdue lol since the album was released in May, but I do remember an interview (maybe The Breakfast Club?) where Mariah mentioned that there was a song on her album called "Kick Rocks". She sounded so excited when she said that, so when the track listing was released and it was not there, I was confused and I knew something was up. Then, there was that little snippet she sang on the Barbra Walters special. Obviously she loved the song, otherwise she would've never given us that bit. And those videos I mentioned in the background. What if Mariah will promote the album with new songs in December? Ugh, I really don't want to be disappointed, but it's so exciting. (Tuesday 14 October 2014; 22:41)

Mimi L from nowhere (47,433) by Lee from UK Mimi L, sweetie, let me allay any fears you may have that I misread or did not comprehend your post by providing you with a direct quote from it with its original context. "DM just posted horrible pictures of Mariah from the most unflattering angles, and with her undergarments showing. MC will be pissed when she sees these." Having re-read your post and provided you with a direct quote, I believe my point still stands. Your point (in addition to the unflattering angles) was about Mariah's knickers being photographed (otherwise why even mention it?). You then mention how Mariah will be "pissed" about this. Now, if it's simply a case of bad grammar/argument construction on your behalf, so be it. As I stated in my previous reply to you, If Mariah was concerned about having her knickers photographed then she should either 1) cover them up or 2) not wear any. However, I suspect option two is not an option any of us would relish. So to reinforce my original point; with a stage so high and a skirt so short... you do the maths. I'm pretty sure Mariah already did. (Tuesday 14 October 2014; 20:27)

Katie who (47,432) by Ken from USA The fact this Z list "celebrity" is commenting on Mariah is a big reminder of how nobody will ever be on Mariah's level. All these people who achieve fame on controversial comments or whatever come and go, they will never be remembered. The whole world will always remember Mariah. I confess, I do forget how accomplished Mariah is. Often imitated never duplicated. I love her so much haha. (Tuesday 14 October 2014; 17:40)

William (47,431) by Will from England I think it's something more to do with the fact that there seems to be some disfigurement on her hand. If you take a look at the aquarium photos, with Mariah pointing up next to Monroe, you can see that between the thumb and index finger, there is a "gap" (for lack of a better word), where there should be some muscle. Whilst I do believe there still could be some residual nerve damage there (I mean, who knows at this point), Mariah may just be wanting to cover that up. (Tuesday 14 October 2014; 16:47)

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