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I agree with a lot of you (47,334) by Lee from USA You shouldn't believe everything some critic says. Michael Bay doesn't and his movies make billions. It should matter what the fans say. I would like to see footage of fans walking out instead of reading about it. For all we know, the critics could have walked out by themselves and said that fans walked out. On another topic, I saw the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees, and thought WTF? How the hell that MC is not for induction but artists who haven't had a hit in decades are ushered in? Easy-E, a dope dealer, could get in as a part of NWA. I'm sorry but I think that an artist that scored more #1s than Elvis and spent more weeks at #1 than the Beatles should be considered at least. People may refer to Mariah's antics but compared to other inductees that used (and sold) drugs, made porn, slept with teenagers, worshipped Satan, and mutilated animals, the woman is pretty much a nun. (Friday 10 October 2014; 15:07)

Oprah (47,333) by Dan from US I'm gonna take a wild guess that after she's done touring by the new year she's gonna have a sit down interview with Oprah or somebody else and is gonna have all the answers to everything going on in her life the past year. (Friday 10 October 2014; 14:43)

Nodules (47,332) by Scott from USA Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe she did have surgery on her nodules and that's why her voice is now the way it is? Perhaps similarly to Julie Andrews the surgery didn't work and caused irreparable damage. Otherwise, why wouldn't she have the procedure now? Because apparently the nodules helps her to hit the high notes? I would prefer tobe, quality of voice and mid/belting register over those high notes. For me, her tone and belt was what set her apart from the rest. You'd think these qualities of her voice would be more important to her also. So perhaps the surgery's already happened and that's what she's now left with. Just a theory. (Friday 10 October 2014; 13:00)

ADAM (47,331) by May from Denmark Do you really believe she doesn't know what is happening to her or how she is sounding? She obviously knows, then again wouldn't it be worst to just turn around and go back home instead of finishing the tour? I think that one thing is calling her out in a polite way and another very different is humiliating her like some people have been doing. The problem is that most of those who call her out are tabloids, and tabloids are a magnet for disgusting comments with their awful dramatic yellow titles. (Friday 10 October 2014; 11:18)

Not gonna read more reviews (47,330) by May from Denmark K-zee I want to say before I go on that your comment, I quote "older couples, probably trying to beat the crowd to the crowd to the subway" made me laugh so much. Imagining an old person with a cane poking the young ones saying "out of my way" in a cartoony way. It's nice you tell us this because I also read some bad reviews, thus not even know if they should be trusted. Most come from this site that supposedly translates stuff and such. Other sites that are doing reviews on the latest show are taking the negatives from there. I'm done with bothering at reading any reviews. It's clear Mariah is having a hard time, no one needs dog ears to realize this. I do think that her performance despite this has improved but it is understandable that people want to just listen to her. I will keep enjoying the videos people upload and keep being supportive with the idea that she will get better from the whole ordeal. It will be interesting to see what's going to happen after the tour. (Friday 10 October 2014; 11:10)

Re: ADAM from USA (47,329) by MimiLamb from Germany I agree with that, the problem is that you can't go to anybody's concert because 90% of the artists today do just that. I have been to my fair share of concerts the last couple of years were the artist or even bands lipsynced and played their instruments of a track. It’s sad but let's not pretend it's only Mariah doing that. If you go to a Britney concert that is all you are getting, lip syncing. The excuse people give her is that she dances and then it's okay, I disagree there, she is a singer so I go there to not only see her dance and stuff. It’s just an example and I know Britney is not Mariah but at the end of the day she like Mariah is a singer. If I want to see dancing I will go to a dance show or whatever. But you are right, you go to a concert to hear the artist sing live. (Friday 10 October 2014; 11:01)

Got it (47,328) by May from Denmark Ok baby, didn't know that part. Might explain why she never really mentions exactly the issue. Next time I would much rather tho have you telling me that I'm wrong and should verify again than saying I make up things. Thanks for the info. (Friday 10 October 2014; 10:58)

Adam, Marcus, Mariah Carey? (47,327) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA Wow I never thought I would see the day of very opiniated people. Just kidding. I will drink to that. It amazes me that people expect an artist of 24 years with an extensive catalouge to sing what fans didn't ask for during that specific show. It's called Mariah knows that she can't please everyone so she asks the fans to request songs you may not like. Marcus if you thoroughly checked her facebook or her Asia twitter page you might have understood that she performed songs via fan request. It bothers me also that we are clearly not on the Asia continent and we are speculating without proof. I have seen like every website review released of her tour and it seems that Adam is quoting a lot of what they are saying. Nothing wrong with that if you were at the concert to verify. Relying on footage of 1 or 2 bad songs out of the bunch is a bit overeacting. Relying on news sources that edit with make belief to make a buck with no reliable sources is disturbing as fan. Some people, fan or not, are hurting Mariah's career with these lies that cant be verified. The newer generation believes anything. I have never seen so many people complaining in my life about 1 person especially when the facts are tainted. (Friday 10 October 2014; 9:43)

About Seoul (47,326) by K-zee from Korea The only people that left were when she said "ok goodnight" after We Belong Together. It was just a few older couples, probably trying to beat the crowd to the crowd to the subway, I see this at most concerts. The majority, like 99% of people stayed right until the end. And, after All I Want For Christmas, the whole crowd was chanting "encore, encore". But then the lights came on and people started leaving. I think it is just a bad press bandwagon now, although I do understand people being frustrated at the ratio of mimed songs, she really did perform very well. A bad review for Seoul is not being fair. (Friday 10 October 2014; 5:08)

The attack of Mariah game (47,325) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Being a lamb is not for the faint of heart. You have to be constantly on your A game, there is no relax mode because somebody is always coming for her sideways. Even the ones who were the closest to her at some point literally turn on a dime. It's no wonder she and MJ bonded. Well, I'm not going to be made to fell like a villain for looking forward to seeing her in concert, something I have never had the opportunity to do before, when she comes to Europe. Concerts are also a chance for fans to show their appreciation and love for the performer. There is always gonna be someone who isn't happy in the audience for whatever reason. But I refuse to let them be the barometer for what I personally enjoy about Mariah's concerts. I like the unpredictable adlibs and impromptu anecdotes. Where are there are so many reasons why I love Mariah, her voice is really only one aspect of the equation, a very lovely and magnificent part. But I think she is hilariously funny too, and intelligent, kind, generous, loyal, inspirational and Mariah has so much integrity, a quality I am most in awe of whenever it presents itself because of the rarity. (Friday 10 October 2014; 4:30)

Mariah and the elusive surgery (47,324) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End May, Julie Andrews settled with the hospital responsible for the surgery so I'm not surprised that she has been gagged from speaking in depth about what exactly happened to her. But before the settlement she did speak of having "one nodule". In the Oprah interview she sorta skirted the issue by saying she never had cancer, "nodules" or anything. Notice the use of plurals and the omission of qualifying what she did have. So technically Julie was telling the truth and honouring any nondisclosure clauses all at the same time. There are a lot of people who are salivating at the mere thought of Mariah not being able to sing that would rejoice in her misery if what happened to Julie happened to her too. My point is, Mariah doesn't need to be pressured into risking her "saving grace". Even if it comes from a good place, we as fans have to be careful what we put out there. Mariah is just as susceptible to manipulation as anyone of us. We should choose to support her when she's down and not jump down her throat at every missed note. (Friday 10 October 2014; 3:40)

What is happening? (47,323) by Marcus from Brazil I don't mean to be negative, but is it just me? Are my ears messed up? What is happening with Mariah? She's removed some of the most difficult songs from the set-list, she's lipping some songs, but she's still not delivering. She's forgotten the lyrics to WBT in two venues now, also the lyrics for DE in Korea, disrupting the mood of the song switching to a mumbling out of place improvisation. There are rumors of people walking out of the concert in Korea. What is all this? When she was singing AIWFCIY and she was placing that decorative while snake on her neck, she pushed the microphone away it was evident she was lipping because her voice stayed the same. Not only fans but the GP are noticing these problems. God, please don't let her go down like that. (Friday 10 October 2014; 3:37)

Mariah lip-syncing on tour (47,322) by ADAM from USA I think it's unacceptable for Mariah to lip sync so many songs during her tour. She is a singer and if someone is paying for a ticket she has an obligation to actually sing her songs and songs press play from the same CDs we all have at home. It's fraudulent and if so should be noted before purchasing. It makes me upset because fans pay money to see her and she serves her fans back a subpar product. Some of you may say well her presence is enough, but I disagree. When you're doing a free show, fine you get what you pay for just be happy. But when you put on a false show and take advantage of fans devotion to your old catalog of hits that's wrong. Lastly, my feelings about her lip syncing songs were not that much of a problem in the past when it was done on just high notes or a song or two but now the amount of none singing she is doing is just wrong. She needs to continue to be called publicly and hopefully forced to confront why she is doing this practice. (Friday 10 October 2014; 0:54)

Meteorite sample (47,321) by Justin from USA - Los Angeles This sounds so good especially around the halfway point of the video. Watch the entire video patiently, you won't be disappointed. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 18:09)

Nikki / talk shows, etc. (47,320) by May from Denmark It's like you can read me telepathically lol. I thought exactly that before. I wondered how she might end up after this tour, in which condition overall, it seems that the breaks are little. She is either stuffed with humidifiers or she will take an incredible well deserved rest after this. I can't help but think that she might be taking this tour as a "therapy" moment, to just shake off all the drama that she was going in the US previously touring. If there is indeed a tour in the UK and those are truly the possible dates, it would explain why it's months apart. Might give her enough of a break to rest good. I also completely agree that now at days there are too many trash talks. Perez Hilton was possibly his number one "basher" years ago, when he started talking good about her I thought that he either got paid for that or that he truly changed from being a bully. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 17:46)

Just to clarify Baby (47,318) by May from Denmark The source is Julia Andrews herself in an interview from 2010 she had with Oprah and another guest where she said that she did a surgery to correct tissues problems, she said she did not have nodules (along with a list of other things that in the 90s was rumored). It has never been truly clear what she actually had, as she doesn't really talk about that specific thing, only about the surgery and how it didn't turn as she was promised. In fact, in that same Barbara Walter's interview you mentioned, she said that she didn't want people to know about the whole deal, it only went public because her husband at the time made it so. In all honesty, I don't think she likes to talk about it at all, despite answering politely the exact same thing every time she gets asked that, you can see her sadness and frustration. I think there was a bit of miscommunication but I definitely don't make up any facts, I don't have the need to lie, if I'm mistaken or I put the foot in my mouth I admit it and come forward with an apology. I most often check anything if I'm in doubt before saying it out loud, though other times I go with my memory which might fail me some days haha. Edward, yes, I posted in that same comment previously that she might lose a whole range or some notes and could be the reason why she chose not to. I do enjoy very much her whistle register, "Bliss" got to be the sexiest song in her repertoire. Moving on. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 17:33)

Don't Explain in Seoul (47,317) by Simon Bitton from Sderot Hen 18\3 Netanya, Israel You can see Mariah singing Don't Explain here. She dodged the belts. Those scats were interesting though. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 17:25)

Re: K-zee (47,316) by nikki from usa How was the concert? All the reports are slamming her and claim most people were walking out. Is that true? I have yet to find any good reviews and she's on her third show. There's always critics, but usually there's a few highlights in there. What's most shocking is all these reviews are slamming her, but not one of them actually discussed anything that actually happened during the concert. When she came out with Charmbracelet we at least knew there was a circus theme. I only found one review that said her performance was better than Japan's, but still slammed it for not being up to par. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 16:04)

Again, about Seoul (47,315) by K-zee from Korea I think a show every 2 days is an awful lot. But, she paced herself well through the show that I saw and there were breaks between some sections so I think she will be fine. I noticed she is much more confident and comfortable when really singing, and she doesn't seem to enjoy the largely mimed songs. She seems quite nervous during them. It makes me think that the miming parts are simply so her voice can be preserved and paced, rather than some sort of laziness or lack of care that the media portrays. I'm happy for it, as giving her voice a break this way means that she is really able to belt on the next song, while still keeping the show going. She was very aware of the lambs in the audience, but was also aware of the big casual crowd there to hear the hits. Someday I hope to see her just in a small theatre (dream) with only the lambs, as she seems much more relaxed and happy addressing us. Perhaps she doesn't feel so much judgement as from a more casual crowd. A funny moment was after My All (I think, memory is a bit hazy), she said "I hope that was ok for you". and we all clapped, but it made me think perhaps she was aware of the criticisms from Tokyo but also aware that she just kicked My All's ass. Her voice is so beautiful, I feel so happy and fulfilled. It's really a dream come true for me. Two 70 year old (!) fans got the park keeper to give me a giant concert flag, it's now my curtains. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 12:24)

AIWFCIY (47,314) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Wow that video just made me smile with my teeth out like an idiot. I really got very happy after this. This is exactly what I wanted from Mariah. This is something I wrote about a while back on this board. That we all know along with Mariah herself that she is no dancer, but still even slight movements make the song come alive. What Mariah did in this video was perfect. She just went ahead and did whatever she wants and didn't bother with choreography. Everything looked natural and fun. I also loved how she hugged the mic and ran across the stage interacting with the backup dancers. She wasn't trying to be sexy she just looked like she was having fun and flirting around. Keep it up Mariah. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 11:36)

Lip syncing to a live track (47,313) by Lee from UK I just have to correct a misconception some of you have about lip syncing. I think B from USA said it in his/her last post. Mariah doesn't have to lip sync to the studio version of a song. In fact, she tends to do what I believe Beyoncé got in trouble for some years ago. She pre-records a live track and then lip syncs along to that. To me it's naughty and deceiving but it clearly fools other people. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 10:01)

Edward / tour (47,312) by Stacey from USA I couldn't agree with you more in regards to your post to Andrew. You have to keep the name-calling out of it. And yet I'll also say, many here just need to chill and not take disagreements so dang personally. Folks need to lighten up. The drama is so unnecessary. I am glad to see MC doing better as her tour progresses. I was shocked watching videos of the opening night. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 6:35)

Petals (47,311) by HerLoverboy from New Zealand Yes, she sung Petals in Japan. There are Instagram videos of it. Sounds like a mime though. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 6:08)

Chile (47,310) by Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan from USA For whatever reason she sounds like she does on this tour or for whatever reason she is lipsynching, it's beyond my care at the moment. I'd like to request a set list of rarities. If she isn't gonna sing live at least "perform" the songs I want to hear like I Don't Wanny Cry, Sweetheart, Do You Think Of Me, I Still Believe, etc. I'd throw a few coins her way to see her drag queen Mariah Carey imitation. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 5:22)

Re: May (47,309) by nikki from usa I have to say I was shocked when I saw MC was only giving herself 2 days between shows. During her Daydream tour she only sang one concert per week. If she's not feeling well as it is, this will slow the healing process down a bit and she'll need a few more so-so performances and lipsync vocal breaks before she's back to vocal form. Mark my words, once she is up to par, the press will immediately stop talking about her and just re run all the "bad" vocal performances. One of the major differences which most people overlook between the 90's and today is the promotion. Back in the 90's there were only so many major magazines, talk shows, and dj's. You could reach major audiences with every appearance and still have plenty of time for vocal rest in between. There was only VH1, MTV, and then BET for pure music. Now, we have the internet with 20,000 trash talking websites. Everyone and their brother has a talk show, so on and so forth. She doesn't have the vocal rest time she once had and I think she's over reaching. Only 2 days of vocal rest while she's also traveling from country to country during that time isn't sufficient rest for her instrument. If she needed a week in between when she was 26, I don't see 2 days at 44 doing her justice. (Thursday 9 October 2014; 5:17)

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