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Jon (48,620) by Dove from USA Re: post (48,591). I thumbed up your comment but since we don't know who's liking our posts: I agree a lot with everything you wrote. It's so annoying to read teenie-boppers write that their favorite is better or more popular than Mariah or that MC fans are "mean" when we're just trying to inform them of why MC is a living legend. Ariana's team are the ones putting it out there that she's the next MC. Something needs to happen to remind everyone why MC is one of a kind. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 23:08)

Wendy (48,619) by Marissa from USA I agree Shelly. As much as I wish Wendy's opinion was irrelevant, she is extremely influential. After continuously watching Wendy's bs, the only people who are going to continue to hold MC in high regard are the lambs because we know who Mariah truly is. The average person is eventually going to get worn down by Wendy's Mariah-bashing. They aren't keeping up with Mariah's good performances, so when they see Wendy Williams only highlighting bad performances and MC supposedly being an alcoholic spending all day crying over Nick, next thing you know they migrate to the comments of her videos saying "Mariah doesn't have it any more". (Thursday 18 December 2014; 22:46)

All I Want For Christmas / Billboard (48,618) by Edward from USA AIWFCIY moves ten places from #50 to #40 on Billboard Hot 100. Most likely it'll peak in the mid 20's by next week. The song is sitting pretty at #32 on the iTunes 100 songs. I can't wait for Sunday where I'll finally see Mariah again after some many years. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 22:26)

"Delusional" lambs (48,617) by nikki from usa Mariah has always had haters during all parts of her career. Perceptions and opinions are subjective and change with the tide. A singer having an off song wasn't considered "news" a decade ago. Actual news of CNN variety was considered "news". These days entertainment news and tabloids have replaced it. Those publications and shows change by the second. The positive lambs who are called "delusional" are actually reporting logic, rational, objectivity, and facts. Mariah's last #1 was this year on the dance charts, her last platinum single was last year. She hit #1 again this year as she does every year with her holiday classic. She was crucified for a single song live. Yet, she added a 6th date to her sold out Christmas shows due to public demand. Last year, she had an unannounced NBC special that still drew over 2 million viewers. That's the same amount of viewers that tuned into AI in 2012. Mariah's album was the most critically acclaimed of her career. Clearly, there's a demand for her. The facts and stats attest to this. Mariah's rough performances also have more celebs and fans coming out to defend her like never before. That's love and respect. Expecting gossipers to give respect is like expecting clean water from raw sewage. People in general will follow whatever they're told. But, as I stated previously, that changes with the tide. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 21:57)

Reviews and the media (48,615) by T from I've been a follower of the site for sometime now but never posted. I think things have gotten a little out of hand when it comes to the media and the way they are treating MC. How does someone crying during a very touching song such as Hero translated to a concert being a mess? It'd be different if she was crying during AIWFCIU. It's like they are pin pointing ever little thing that MC. I never thought I'd see the day that MC made headlines because her mic pac fell off her dress or her shoe came off? This is starting to get rediculous. It's like they are trying to push her over the edge. I don't think MC has been this talked about since TEOM. As much as I love seeing MC, I really want her to take a break after these Christmas concerts. She doesn't deserve what she is getting and she needs to be missed. I feel so bad and I hope her sprirt isn't being affected by these mean spirited jerks. I'm so glad she isn't fighting back and remaining quite. Sidenote: I saw her on Tuesday and she was amazing. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 21:47)

Baby / the super positive one (48,614) by Edward from USA TJ, a fan who's been coming here for 16 years, and who very rarely posts was the one who saw how angry your approach is. Just like him, I do also think that you come across as self-righteous and angry. You make your points as if they were facts, and most times you're condescending. I personally think there is not an iota of objectivity in your posts, you sound like a broken record regurgitating the greatness of Mariah Carey, but dismissing any opinion others might have that differ from your point of view. Picking the names of some fans that you think agree with you to elevate yourself as the righteous one, and those who don't agree are baptized by you as ducks. If you haven't noticed, many of your posts have been given the [...] treatment for God knows what. In your La-la Land bubble where Mariah is the queen, you've created your own dictatorship, where obviously criticism is not allowed. I might not always agree with some fans here, but I've never question their fanhood, calling them ducks. If there's an angry duck here, it's you. Now, on a more positive note: Merry Christmas, baby please come home. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 21:43)

Baby from Sweden (48,613) by MimiLamb from Germany I for one love your posts here. You write very well and explain the feelings that you have very clearly. People should not be attacked I read, we should value each others opinions even when we don't agree, we shouldn't take it personal. That's very true and I agree, but it's kind off funny to me that this is being said the minute certain people start a discussion or even when they give Mariah though love. But when somebody shows love or defend Mariah they get attacked just the same like I have seen happen to for instance. Baby, why is it okay then I wonder? Because at that moment nobody is posting about respecting each others opinions. The positive lambs is another thing that really gives me an off feeling, sorry, are we really going down that road again? The positive versus the real lambs or the though love lambs? I really hope not, I also see it as an assumption were I will kind of dug a hole the minute I answer, and I really don't feel like going through another discussion amongst the fans/lambs etc. They mostly don't end so well and I rather keep it about the festive holiday that is around the corner. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 19:55)

Dancing around the questions (48,612) by Marissa from USA I'm not surprised that you took all of that energy to not (caps) answer the question. You are always the "positive" lamb who acts like anyone who gives constructive criticism is a peasant that has no right to speak. Your elitist attitude isn't at all shocking. "Assumption" 1. MC isn't 100% at fault nor did I imply that, but my point was that she only has hope to turn anything around if she acknowledges something that she or her team can do differently. 2. I never said that she lost all (caps) of her respect, but if you think MC has the same respect now from the gp that she had during TEOM or even E=MC2 then, "pull down them Tom Fords and act like you see". 3. Every singer has their lows in the media, but the general consensus on these women at that age wasn't that they were has-beens, which is what the media is making MC out to be now. 4. I didn't say whether everything we hear about MC is true or false. I asked why the respect for her isn't where is should be. You got really creative with this one. 5. This "assumption" is your own paranoia. I was asking if MC's strategies are solid, why isn't she being treated like the legend that she is. I never said or implied that she couldn't handle herself or needed to be micromanaged. Nice try though. This list of non-existent assumptions was cute, but a failed attempt to distract from the fact that you can never give a logical explanation or educated guess about why MC goes through the mess that she goes through in the media. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 19:42)

Not a mom and pop (48,611) by Dove from USA It's not that Mariah can't be trusted to handle her own affairs and needs to be micromanaged down to the color of her panties. I just think she does need help. Even Oprah hires the best people to help her. If MC was an indie artist, just making music for the joy of it, then sales and likability by the general public wouldn't matter. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 19:32)

Fame / WW (48,610) by Dove from USA The reason I think Mariah is not into being famous is because people thirsty for fame want the world to know everything about them and Mariah seems like she values her privacy. The reason I brought up WW is because a lot of young people watch her and all they know about Mariah is what WW says. WW takes her hot topics from the tabloids but she adds her own commentary and opinions about it; these opinions are what viewers latch on to, and make their own, subconsciously. In a way, it's good that she talks about MC, because it keeps her name in the news, but it's also negative because the things WW is saying could stick unless MC comes out at some point and dispels the stories. In that clip I posted, WW is not hailing MC praises but she is considerably nicer than in other clips, and I just wondered why. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 19:00)

The Grammy's (48,609) by B from USA The Grammy Awards are a joke. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 17:49)

Mariah (48,608) by B from USA Mariah's career is not in that bad of shape. She just had a hit single with #Beautiful and her album sold 100,000 copies with no promotion during a year that only one album went platinum. I could understand some of these complaints if this era was as bad as Glitter or Charmbracelet but it isn't. Mariah can easily rebound from this. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 17:38)

Hate the game not the player (48,607) by Otti from Belgium It's nice to read different views from fans. I was thinking, this is not the first time that Mariah is going to a turbulence of critics. I remember so well the "Glitter" era. Everything she did was wrong, the movie is a flop, the album is a flop, radiostatioins were not playing her music, she was called insane, and blabla. But still she was strong enough to manage and give performances around the world. But this time is different, it feels so rare that even fans are complaying about everything. What Randy said. I could not say it better. Beyonce knows how to play the game, that to me it seemed all fake. She is always positive to other female artist, every other female artist is in her eyes beautiful and gorgeous, she is always kind. On the other hand, I feel for Mariah, since she saw the day of light as a singer she is compared to other singers, Whitney, Toni, Christina, Leoan, Ariana. Mariah is in my eyes really brave. Does she has a label or manager at this moment? (Thursday 18 December 2014; 16:11)

Do you still beat your wife and other designed-to-fail questions (48,606) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Weeks ago a poster popped up out of the clear blue to ask me: "Are you always that angry?" That was it, no actual reference to anything I had written or anyone else's posts. So it was obviously just their own weak attempt at projecting an unfavourable image onto me, painting me as "always angry" just by the framing of that in this open forum. It's a trick lesser journalists will use to incriminate their subject and conjure up sensationalism where there otherwise isn't. So when I saw this exchange by Marissa: "I'm with Randy. If everything is fine with MC's career and image and nothing needs to be changed, why is her name constantly being dragged through the mud and why doesn't she get the same respect that Aretha, Patti, and Barbra were getting at her age?", I had a bit of déjà vu. How do you answer a question with that much built in assumption without hanging yourself? The assumptions being: 1. Mariah is 100% at fault for any and all slander she surfers from the general public. 2. Mariah has lost all the hard earned respect she has earned for over 25 years in the business. 3. Other divas never suffer at the hands of the public and are always respected in the entertainment industry no matter age. 4. Every single piece of information we hear about Mariah is 100% true, especially if someone who doesn't know her or is "Incognito" claims it. 5. Mariah can't be trusted to handle her own affairs and needs to be micromanaged down to the color of her panties. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 15:02)

Questions for positive lambs (48,605) by Jon from Netherlands The problem when it comes to MC is that for the general public perception is reality. They can't see through the surface and most of the time can't even get a joke (and Mariah is always joking, which can come across as full of herself for those that don't get it). (Thursday 18 December 2014; 14:58)

You ask about vocal health? Okay (48,604) by Spir Ja from USA Re built my vocal and my Facebook post linked it to the correct book, I believe, as well as what I did with "isolating" registers at the piano. She [...] her middle voice [...] Any fan that is a vocalist knows she talked pretty extensively about 10 years ago about the [...] of the middle voice and Whitney had it in abundance back in the "day". MC was in awe of that aspect of Whit's vocal but, going forward, she can rebuild her vocal and I hope she figures out how. She can do it on her own or with someone she can trust, but she can do it. The middle voice is kinda like a "electronic crossover unit" on a speaker, it "blends" the lows and highs, it's called the passagio and in formal vocal training usually takes about 7-8 years. MC's/Whits' producer is my mentor of 12 years and I have a lot of the same tones as them, but no success. For whatever that's worth. I've preserved my vocal health. I hope MC does the work and saves her vocal, she can do it. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 7:52)

Discography (48,603) by Taylor from USA This message is for the webmaster; do you not update the discography section anymore? I always find the section incredibly comprehensive and I always rely on it. Please continue to update. Thank you. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 7:50)

New to the MCA board (48,602) by Warrior Butterfly from USA Hello MCA-ers. I have finally decided to join but have followed MCA since the late 1990s' I've known of Mariah since the MTV Unplugged era and became a lamb with butterfly in 1997. I just wanted to share the link to a acoustic version of "AIWFCIY". I really like the stripped down take very simple. The scatting at the end wow I think my favorite style of Mariah, hope to talk to you soon. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 7:23)

Baby AIWFCIY acoustic (48,601) by enwar00 from usa Baby thank you so much, that was literally like an awesome early Christmas present. I absolutely love it. My life is complete. Ok that last one is an exaggeration but you get what I'm saying. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 6:55)

JTTW remix (48,600) by Stacey from USA Can I get some love for this remix? This song also gets me into the Christmas spirit with a little religious reason for why I celebrate Christmas. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 5:34)

Edward / Deedre (48,599) by Stacey from USA I know. I'm glad the webmaster got rid of the thumbs down icon. I couldn't believe the number of thumbs down I got the last time I shared a MC/kid story. Geesh. You make a good point about AIWFCIY being MC's signature song. It comes around every year with new folks listening to this song, including my kids. Makes me feel old the song turned 20 this year. I was 17 when it came out. Do the math, lol. Deedre, I figured it was about time to get into the Christmas spirit. Her Christmas covers were some of my favs when I collected promo CDs. I'm glad you and I can discuss and leave as friends. Merry Christmas to all. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 5:33)

Questions for positive lambs (48,598) by Marissa from USA I'm with Randy. If everything is fine with MC's career and image and nothing needs to be changed, why is her name constantly being dragged through the mud and why doesn't she get the same respect that Aretha, Patti, and Barbra were getting at her age? Mariah is a legend, but do you feel like the world is treating her as such? Is MC just having bad luck? Positive lambs please respond. I seriously want to hear your theories. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 4:25)

Re: Jaker20 (48,597) by nikki from usa AI had very little to do with Mariah. Throughout the show Nicki forever interrupted Mariah when it was her turn to asses the contestant. Then continuously asked Mariah to explain her advice she had just given to the contestant to Nicki and why. Mariah forever brought up her resume which Nicki found "disrespectful". AI was 6 months of that. Mariah was there to judge contestants, not explain herself to Nicki Minaj. Mariah pissed off producers because she refused to be mean to the contestants and cheered them on. I've met Mariah and found her to be heartfelt and warm. I know of no other person, Mother Teresa or regular Joe, who did anything with broken bones for the sake of a fundraiser. People who believe themselves to be superior are not going to put themselves on the line for someone else. If you want to find out who someone is, look at their actions and candid moments. Mariah putting pizza dough down Josephine's pants is Mariah. Eternally 12. Having a 15 foot Christmas tree in her room is Mariah. Festive. I love that she puts butterscotch schnapps in her cocoa, jumps in a hot tub in 0 degree weather, then rolls around in the snow, and jumps back in the hot tub. There's so much to her that no one knows about. When was the last time you saw her crack a joke or play a game with her kids? No one ever really sees Mariah. A show bent on ratings that wants girls to fight doesn't show how people really are, just what they want you to see. (Thursday 18 December 2014; 3:52)

MCs signature songs (48,596) by Marissa from USA I think the songs people will always think of when they hear Mariah's name are: 1. AIWFCIY 2. Hero 3. We Belong Together 4. Emotions Debatable: 1. One Sweet Day 2. Fantasy (Thursday 18 December 2014; 3:46)

Mariah Carey - Christmas Special 2014 (full concert) in Beacon Theater December 16 2nd day live (48,595) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Thank you Lord for this amazement just uploaded. Enjoy, I know I will. I'm so excited. *squeee* (Thursday 18 December 2014; 3:13)

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