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Observation (102,435) by Mariahsbaby from usa You would think a "fan" would (and should) know that Mariah celebrities her anniversaries and not birthdays. God bless you Lady B. [censored] Mariah Careys legacy and accomplishments will never be diminished by the words from a mouth lmfao. This board and get really dark sometimes, I wish I saw just a glimpse of the love Mariah pour on us every time on this message-board. PS: I don't know why people are so impatient over new music when she is clearly working on it and has said numerous times that the tv series is her priority. Even though I want a Netflix documentary first. We need to remind the masses and the lambs of the [censored] she really is. (Sunday 2 April 2023; 02:00) this is a reply to message 102,432

Observation (102,432) by Sasha from Nomansland Mariah doesn't acknowledge her own birthday so why should we? (Saturday 1 April 2023; 22:19)

Observation (102,434) by Randy from USA As tired as you are of us picking Mariah apart, we are tired of being told that we are not fans and we are evil people. Nobody's mad because MC doesn't have the same voice as 1990. Hell, she didn't even have the same voice in 1998. The real issue is the deception and the excuses. How did she go from saying publicly, :I would never lip sync" in the 90s to lip syncing most of her climaxes in 99 and beyond? And then not telling us what happened? I didn't want to do this on this board but a few years ago, I put together all of MCs excuses. In her own words. I don't ever argue without receipts. Oh and I still love MC. You can view the video here. (Sunday 2 April 2023; 01:02) this is a reply to message 102,431

Observation (102,431) by Lady B from USA So much so that folks can't bring themselves to wish her Happy Anniversary? Come on now. Also, assuming what you say is true, do Michael Jordan fans constant bemoan him because he cannot jump the same way he did when he was 23? (Saturday 1 April 2023; 21:38)

Observation (102,433) by Bill from the UK Michael Jordan doesn't use studio trickery and smoke and mirrors to pretend he still can jump though. (Sunday 2 April 2023; 00:46) this is a reply to message 102,431

Observation (102,431) by Lady B from USA So much so that folks can't bring themselves to wish her Happy Anniversary? Come on now. Also, assuming what you say is true, do Michael Jordan fans constant bemoan him because he cannot jump the same way he did when he was 23? (Saturday 1 April 2023; 21:38)

Observation (102,432) by Sasha from Nomansland Mariah doesn't acknowledge her own birthday so why should we? (Saturday 1 April 2023; 22:19) this is a reply to message 102,428

Observation (102,428) by MC85 from Canada I agree with you Lady B. This is partly why I rarely post and haven't been visiting the board as much these days. Life has been especially hard lately for so many people, including me, and the world often seems like it's on the brink. Mariah and her music have always been and always will be a beacon of light in my life and I've been needing that more than ever lately. I consider myself extremely lucky and am beyond grateful that Mariah continues to provide me with utter joy, the sense of peace, and the much needed reminder that I'm not truly alone thanks to her music. I just don't see the point in picking someone apart, criticizing them and constantly expressing disappointment towards them when they have given me so much life. That's just me though. I dunno (Saturday 1 April 2023; 07:09)

Observation (102,431) by Lady B from USA So much so that folks can't bring themselves to wish her Happy Anniversary? Come on now. Also, assuming what you say is true, do Michael Jordan fans constant bemoan him because he cannot jump the same way he did when he was 23? (Saturday 1 April 2023; 21:38) this is a reply to message 102,430

Observation (102,430) by Bobby A from United States I think that we are all frustrated that MC16 has not been released and she seems to have lost her beautiful gift. Listening to the introduction of Fantasy kind of brought tears to my eyes knowing that MC can't sing acapella anymore. (Saturday 1 April 2023; 17:56)

Observation (102,430) by Bobby A from United States I think that we are all frustrated that MC16 has not been released and she seems to have lost her beautiful gift. Listening to the introduction of Fantasy kind of brought tears to my eyes knowing that MC can't sing acapella anymore. (Saturday 1 April 2023; 17:56) this is a reply to message 102,428

Observation (102,428) by MC85 from Canada I agree with you Lady B. This is partly why I rarely post and haven't been visiting the board as much these days. Life has been especially hard lately for so many people, including me, and the world often seems like it's on the brink. Mariah and her music have always been and always will be a beacon of light in my life and I've been needing that more than ever lately. I consider myself extremely lucky and am beyond grateful that Mariah continues to provide me with utter joy, the sense of peace, and the much needed reminder that I'm not truly alone thanks to her music. I just don't see the point in picking someone apart, criticizing them and constantly expressing disappointment towards them when they have given me so much life. That's just me though. I dunno (Saturday 1 April 2023; 07:09)

For The Record (102,429) by Bobby A from United States It's the same for 4Real 4Real for me sung in my Mariah voice. By the way, didn't MC say in interviews that she and BMC recorded a total of 4 songs during their Capri sessions? (Saturday 1 April 2023; 12:50) this is a reply to message 102,426

For The Record (102,426) by Brad from USA Whenever I hear this phrase used around me, "For the record", I always sing it back to the person and add "you oughta know". This is such a personal point of reference for me. No one understands what I am doing when I do that, but at this point in life I feel I have earned the right to do that. Needless to say, I have always loved this song. (Thursday 30 March 2023; 21:51)

Observation (102,428) by MC85 from Canada I agree with you Lady B. This is partly why I rarely post and haven't been visiting the board as much these days. Life has been especially hard lately for so many people, including me, and the world often seems like it's on the brink. Mariah and her music have always been and always will be a beacon of light in my life and I've been needing that more than ever lately. I consider myself extremely lucky and am beyond grateful that Mariah continues to provide me with utter joy, the sense of peace, and the much needed reminder that I'm not truly alone thanks to her music. I just don't see the point in picking someone apart, criticizing them and constantly expressing disappointment towards them when they have given me so much life. That's just me though. I dunno (Saturday 1 April 2023; 07:09) this is a reply to message 102,419

Observation (102,419) by Lady B from USA Many people on this board who post negative things about Mariah like to hid behind they "care" and are "fans", but are being "honest" and sometimes that means tough love. I'm on record as saying I think that's largely malarky, and they snidely deride me when I say that, But for a "fan board" very few folks wished her Happy Anniversary, and none of the regular critics. Indeed, plenty of posts before and after, but very few on the day of. Compare that to other fan boards of other artists, which have a higher percentage of posters who are actual, well fans. (Wednesday 29 March 2023; 16:09)

Mariah (102,427) by Mariahsbaby from usa Mariah Carey is MC, just say you fell in love with Sony's manufactured imaginary doll and move on. Mariah Carey greatest assets will always be her songwriting, Leona Lewis and the rest of the girls that can really sing is the testimony to that. Another prophecy of mine is the girl who sang the tribute for Mariah on the Songwriters Hall of Fame who can hit every imaginable note but if she doesn't pick up the pen and aims to exceed on that will never have any real success. PS: I love Mariah's vocally challenging songs but somehow they are the least streamed and the least talked about songs. Nobody really cares for all that, 7/10 songs of her #1s are the easiest songs in her catalogue. Mariah is a true musician and she will forever be that girl. (Friday 31 March 2023; 03:16)

For The Record (102,426) by Brad from USA Whenever I hear this phrase used around me, "For the record", I always sing it back to the person and add "you oughta know". This is such a personal point of reference for me. No one understands what I am doing when I do that, but at this point in life I feel I have earned the right to do that. Needless to say, I have always loved this song. (Thursday 30 March 2023; 21:51) this is a reply to message 102,420

For The Record (102,420) by Bobby A from United States I had forgotten how good this song was to the ear. It doesn't sound like a BMC production. (Wednesday 29 March 2023; 18:27)

Album delay (102,425) by Bobby A from United States We will know at the Lovers and Friends and L.A. Pride Fest performances if we are going to get a new album this year. If she sings Fantasy/Big Energy Remix and ABMB and no new songs, then we are not getting a new album this year. MC must be heartbroken about the deterioration of her voice. (Thursday 30 March 2023; 19:21) this is a reply to message 102,423

Album delay (102,423) by T from USA Does anyone else get the feeling that all these projects in the works that never see the light of day is really because she's stalling? I wonder if her voice is too far gone? Back in the 90's Mariah could bang out an album every year. Or could it be that she is scared of the commercial performance which is freezing her from putting anything out? She's been talking about the same three projects now for three years since 2020, and it's obvious nothing is coming this year. So that means it will be four years since we first heard about SUD or TBL. And next year will be six years since her last studio album. I personally don't mind if Caution is her last album, as it is that good, knowing full well that her next real studio album will probably be her last. (Thursday 30 March 2023; 13:54)

Will the real MC please stand up (102,424) by T from USA I think both Mariah and MC are the real Ms. Carey. Obviously she was more focused at the beginning of her career but she also had something to prove. She was also handled in a certain way. I remember at the beginning she was only allowed to go on talk shows to sing, not talk. Because I think the machine was hiding the fact that she has anxiety but also were scared of her immature qualities to shine through. Her eternally 12 self. Now it's all her all the time. She lost the sweet innocent quality but that will happen after being jaded for 33 years now. Prisoner and Up Out My Face are not that different. The co-producer certainly has an impact on each song. Also, with the changes in her voice she had to compensate, it was also around the time that popular music was Britney, Christina, Spice Girls and Madonna. So a change was needed. She briefly returned to the old Mariah with Charmbracelet in 2002 but didn't have the voice on the record to back it up. The writing was top notch however. After the emancipation there was no going back. I think there are many sides to Mariah and all of them are real for her. (Thursday 30 March 2023; 14:04)

Album delay (102,423) by T from USA Does anyone else get the feeling that all these projects in the works that never see the light of day is really because she's stalling? I wonder if her voice is too far gone? Back in the 90's Mariah could bang out an album every year. Or could it be that she is scared of the commercial performance which is freezing her from putting anything out? She's been talking about the same three projects now for three years since 2020, and it's obvious nothing is coming this year. So that means it will be four years since we first heard about SUD or TBL. And next year will be six years since her last studio album. I personally don't mind if Caution is her last album, as it is that good, knowing full well that her next real studio album will probably be her last. (Thursday 30 March 2023; 13:54)

For The Record (102,422) by Lainsky from Philippines Yap, ditto. I totally agree that it's very Mariah but sounds new at the same time. I wish it was released and went to No. 1 too. It's too beautiful to be an album filler. A gem lost in mishandling the E=MC2 singles. (Thursday 30 March 2023; 04:21) this is a reply to message 102,421

For The Record (102,421) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, it's so good. How I love this song from the beginning. It has the typical Mariah sound but also something new. In my fantasy it's a number one. (Wednesday 29 March 2023; 20:17)

For The Record (102,421) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, it's so good. How I love this song from the beginning. It has the typical Mariah sound but also something new. In my fantasy it's a number one. (Wednesday 29 March 2023; 20:17) this is a reply to message 102,420

For The Record (102,420) by Bobby A from United States I had forgotten how good this song was to the ear. It doesn't sound like a BMC production. (Wednesday 29 March 2023; 18:27)

For The Record (102,420) by Bobby A from United States I had forgotten how good this song was to the ear. It doesn't sound like a BMC production. (Wednesday 29 March 2023; 18:27)

Observation (102,419) by Lady B from USA Many people on this board who post negative things about Mariah like to hid behind they "care" and are "fans", but are being "honest" and sometimes that means tough love. I'm on record as saying I think that's largely malarky, and they snidely deride me when I say that, But for a "fan board" very few folks wished her Happy Anniversary, and none of the regular critics. Indeed, plenty of posts before and after, but very few on the day of. Compare that to other fan boards of other artists, which have a higher percentage of posters who are actual, well fans. (Wednesday 29 March 2023; 16:09)

Mariah vs MC (102,418) by MusicfanJ from Germany Great post and thoughts of you Jamie. I often think who is the real Mariah? For me it's the one during the early years too. A smart, sweet woman with an outstanding charisma, a little shy with a good sense of humour. That was her, no matter if she liked the clothes or not, she was natural. Even the first little diva antics were lovable. Later especially after 2001 the "diva thing" seemed more like a masquerade to protect herself. Of course everyone can act sometimes, some more, some less. But the sparkle on the eyes, a real smile says so much more. That's real. (Wednesday 29 March 2023; 14:21) this is a reply to message 102,399

Mariah vs MC (102,399) by Jamie from UK Ok as a 90's fan of Mariah and a continued fan to this day, I've always struggled with Mariah and MC. Whilst I like them both I'm more swayed towards Mariah. I've always wondered what she thinks, as Mariah did she always want to break away and be MC, or now does she long to be Mariah again? I say this because she always says how controlled she was, yet now every opportunity she gets she shows pics etc of her earlier career. Watching her earlier videos she is so natural and composed something I don't think can be forced or mimicked. So I often wonder who is the the real Mariah/MC? Don't get me wrong I love both, but I often wonder what happened that made the drastic change, I don't believe it was all Tommy as he could have dressed her in all he liked, but like I said you can't mimic those natural early performances. I get people change, I've changed myself, but not so drastically like she has. I always wonder who the happiest one was. To me she looks more happy in the early Mariah days when she was more wholesome, but would love to hear your spin on things. This all came from watching ATYNAF from Proctors Theatre, which to me is one of her best performances. I'm not looking to be judgmental I'm honestly just looking for peoples spin on things as it genuinely interests me. (Sunday 26 March 2023; 01:52)

Vision Of Love unused 1989 vocals (102,417) by Edward from USA Wow, I was just about to post about that. We need it like yesterday. (Wednesday 29 March 2023; 02:38) this is a reply to message 102,416

Vision Of Love unused 1989 vocals (102,416) by TJ from Norway I just want the other version of All in Your Mind. She should give it to us. (Tuesday 28 March 2023; 20:23)

Vision Of Love unused 1989 vocals (102,416) by TJ from Norway I just want the other version of All in Your Mind. She should give it to us. (Tuesday 28 March 2023; 20:23) this is a reply to message 102,415

Vision Of Love unused 1989 vocals (102,415) by Edward from USA The Rarities 2 should have new previously unreleased material. These peformances are good and all, but that's about it. Mariah released a few gems on The Rarities she had kept hidden from us, we need more of recordings from the Daydream and the Music Box eras. (Tuesday 28 March 2023; 17:20)

Vision Of Love unused 1989 vocals (102,415) by Edward from USA The Rarities 2 should have new previously unreleased material. These peformances are good and all, but that's about it. Mariah released a few gems on The Rarities she had kept hidden from us, we need more of recordings from the Daydream and the Music Box eras. (Tuesday 28 March 2023; 17:20) this is a reply to message 102,414

Vision Of Love unused 1989 vocals (102,414) by MC1989 from Spain This is beyond [amazing]. I hope Mariah puts [the demo tape] out someday, with all these fantastic rarities. What a voice. That [epic] ending. (Tuesday 28 March 2023; 10:39)

Vision Of Love unused 1989 vocals (102,414) by MC1989 from Spain This is beyond [amazing]. I hope Mariah puts [the demo tape] out someday, with all these fantastic rarities. What a voice. That [epic] ending. (Tuesday 28 March 2023; 10:39)

Vanishing live in Sydney (Butterfly Tour) (102,413) by MC1989 from Spain I meant "we" need this on The Rarities 2. (Tuesday 28 March 2023; 09:33) this is a reply to message 102,412

Vanishing live in Sydney (Butterfly Tour) (102,412) by MC1989 from Spain I cried listening to this. Here's the one and only Mariah Carey. Se need this on The Rarities 2. Happy Anniversary. (Tuesday 28 March 2023; 01:52)

Vanishing live in Sydney (Butterfly Tour) (102,412) by MC1989 from Spain I cried listening to this. Here's the one and only Mariah Carey. Se need this on The Rarities 2. Happy Anniversary. (Tuesday 28 March 2023; 01:52)

"My All" (Sydney 1998) (102,411) by MC1989 from Spain Literally amazing. Her tone is unmatchable. (Tuesday 28 March 2023; 01:49) this is a reply to message 102,407

"My All" (Sydney 1998) (102,407) by Billy from Greece Here's the whole performance. So gorgeous, so mesmerizing, so captivating. (Monday 27 March 2023; 19:50)

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