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Stacey (37,088)
by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
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Happy New Year. I totally agree, and get your points. Being married to Tommy means she'll be eternally linked to him. That's just the way it is.
(Saturday 12 January 2013; 17:01)
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I am not worried about TM hogging the credit (37,087)
by Lee from USA
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TM could say whatever he wants to say. But people are learning the truth about him now. He is vastly overrated and his post-Mimi failures speak louder than his book ever will. Anyways, did you all see the Fashion Police tonight? Well, if I was Mimi, I would be mad as hell enough to retaliate against these morons like Lady Gaga did.
(Saturday 12 January 2013; 5:41)
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Gear shift (37,086)
by RibbonB from USA
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Roc is so adorable even on the stool. I love the pic, Roc might not in several years. LMAO. His hair color is so much like Mariah's when she was younger.
(Saturday 12 January 2013; 3:30)
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Clive and Berry (37,085)
by RibbonB from USA
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These exec's have truly affected the musical landscape and both are deservedly in the Rock and Roll music hall of fame for many years now. The greater point is, while these music moguls have launched many great artists, they are recognized for their contributions to music and the artists they ushered in are recognized for their contributions to music, without this drivel of they were made by said execs. Where as Tommy on the other hand tried to dim the light on Mariah and the media generally played along with that narrative. I'm glad Mariah stood her ground and many fans have always given her credit. Celine, who's been with her manager since a teen, isn't even burdended with that same drama, people who love her just recognize her voice. There are tons of artists who have every advantage especially with these contest shows, but even with that, there are no new Mariah's or Aretha's or Whitney's. that's God given: the voice, charisma and appeal dont come everyday, married to an exec or not and that should never be diminished.
(Saturday 12 January 2013; 3:28)
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You're missing the point (37,084)
by RibbonB from USA
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Uhm, everyone here knows they were married and that will always be mentioned. We just didn't state the obvious, because that wasn't the point. Stephen got the point exactly. The end.
(Saturday 12 January 2013; 3:16)
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Stephen (37,082)
by Stacey from USA
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You are totally right. MC is never given credit for anything, lol. It blows my mind she still has to mention she writes all her songs. I'm wasn't arguing against that or really involved in that discussion. Some here have asked why MC is linked to TM more than other artists to their mentors. So, I just added the marriage aspect. It defintely changes the dynamic of the relationship when you marry that person. Anyway, Happy New Year to you.
(Saturday 12 January 2013; 0:11)
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It doesn't matter (37,081)
by Stacey from USA
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It doesn't matter if we are talking about MC's career or her personal life. TM is linked to both because he was married to her. He was her boss and husband. During those years, her personal and professional lives were one in the same. No matter how long ago the divorce happened, when you marry someone, all aspects are forever linked. It's a part of your past. And so when folks talk about MC's career, TM is always going to be a part of that discussion because of their personal connection. I highly doubt he would be mentioned as much if they had never married.
(Saturday 12 January 2013; 0:02)
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Stacey (37,080)
by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
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Good point. I don't mind Mariah being linked to Tommy. They were incredibly successful and really helped each others careers. They were also husband and wife at one point, an undeniable fact. My problem is the fact that Mariah is rarely given credit for what she did for Sony and Tommy. It was a two way thing. Mariah is such a talented songwriter, she could deliver whatever was needed. Nobody really gives her credit for this.
(Friday 11 January 2013; 23:38)
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Mariah's behaviour management technique (37,079)
by Lee from UK
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The other thing I loved about the conference was Mariah's ability to control the audience. She was like a teacher in class when everybody was hooting and yelling while she was trying to speak: "I already told you I have bronchitis, so I'm just going to wait." She puts her head down and it goes silent, then she starts to talk. She is the boss.
(Friday 11 January 2013; 20:07)
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Lee (37,078)
by RibbonB from USA
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Yeah, she has just come off of a very busy period, with holidays, Australia concert and travel and then immediately to Idol promo. And yes, cute toddlers keep her very busy too, but she's always been a bit of a rambler in interviews. Lol.
(Friday 11 January 2013; 18:04)
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Snippet (37,077)
by Ryan from the Philippines
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I love the second snippet they featured on ABC News with Barbara Walters. It it has a jazz/soul feel if I'm not mistaken.
(Friday 11 January 2013; 11:26)
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RibbonB (37,076)
by Lee from UK
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Yes, maybe you're right about that one. There are however, plenty of other examples were it seems like she is about to say something hilarious but it doesn't quite come to her quick enough so she just completes her sentence with "whatever". She is looking exhausted recently, I guess that's the toll of having two children under 3 though.
(Friday 11 January 2013; 10:26)
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The issue (37,075)
by RibbonB from USA
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The issue is not TM being linked to her life, the discussion is on him being linked to her career and success. A lot of that was perpetuated by him and fueled by a patronizing media and fan base. He also continued to manipulate her image after the breakup. And that is not something a good exec would do.
(Friday 11 January 2013; 1:34)
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Don't overlook the fact (37,073)
by Stacey from USA
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The media doesn't tie Whitney to Clive or Alicia the same way they do MC to TM because Clive Davis didn't marry either singer. I doubt MC would be constantly linked to TM if she didn't marry the guy. That is an important detail not to be overlooked. No matter how long ago the divorce happened, when you marry someone, you are forever linked to them. It's a part of your past.
(Thursday 10 January 2013; 22:37)
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Lee (37,072)
by RibbonB from USA
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Maybe she didn't want to say hell. Lol.
(Thursday 10 January 2013; 21:35)
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Is it just me? (37,071)
by Lee from UK
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Is it just me, or is Mariah failing to complete a lot her own sentences lately. Each interview I have seen she begins a phrase or metaphor and then gives up. "If we ever see another Bob Marely again, It'll be a cold in... wherever."
(Thursday 10 January 2013; 21:17)
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Idol Live Stream (37,070)
by Lee from UK
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Watching the Idol Live Stream, I thought Mariah did quite well considering her "bronchitis". She looked uncomfortable though, but that could've been due to her illness. I hope she is a bit more lively and spontaneous during the live shows. I thought we would be getting a few more "Mariahisms". I loved the Mariah fans in the audience trying to out shout the Nicki fans.
(Thursday 10 January 2013; 21:14)
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I missed it, Mariah and Barbara (37,069)
by Gilbert from USA
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Does anyone know how long this interview was? I've been looking everywhere to find it and all I've seen are scraps of clips. I would love to watch the interview so I can see what happened. I did get to see the crack about Nicki, not knowing she sang and thinking she just rapped. So when I heard that I thought it was funny, because a friend who loves her kept insisting she was a singer and I was not convinced. I've never heard her sing nor do I care to.
(Thursday 10 January 2013; 1:56)
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RibbonB from USA (37,068)
by Carol from Spain
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Your toughts on TM? I love it and I sign underneath. If his influence on Mariah made her a success, then her success also allowed him to grow as an executive. Two edged sword.
(Thursday 10 January 2013; 0:59)
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New album is been a long time coming (37,067)
by Carol from Spain
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For the next album, I got great expectations. I'm not looking for another Daydream or Music Box style, but I hope she brings back something outside the box that blows anyone away. Honestly? Any album is better then no album at all. The world's been without her music for so long that I need my MC collection to grow an inch this year. Mariah always delivers something different. This can be her success or her downfall, but she always stays triumphant.
(Wednesday 9 January 2013; 21:58)
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TJ (37,066)
by Carol from Spain
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Regarding the movie, I've honestly seen worse. I liked the story, liked the image and the 80's feeling the movie carries troughout. However, I think she didn't chose the best director for the movie. When I referred to Glitter, I meant the album. Tommy stole her collaboration with Ja Rule and gave the concept to J Lo, because she was high at the time. The album, for me, is her best, after Daydream. She dared, she was doing something beyond her time and people just didn't get it. Also the events of that week didn't help. Tommy was responsible for the failure of Glitter the album.
(Wednesday 9 January 2013; 21:54)
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Nikki (37,065)
by RibbonB from USA
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Lol. I definitely agree that Clive is not tied to Whitney or Alicia for that matter the way many including the media tie TM to Mariah. The media and many others have been very patronizing to Mariah with regard to her success. The thing I love, is she endured and overcame it all and in the face of all kinds of backlash and venom being thrown her way. The real gag is now he's releasing his book on the day before her new idol debut, I'm sure is for maximum exposure for himself. If anything good came of his little "tell-all" is he shows himself for what he truly is - delusional and a lot full of himself. People can play a role in your life, or even in your success, but it doesn't make them responsible for it. Even TM gives Brenda K Starr credit for handing him the tape, but that doesn't make her "responsible" for MC's success, she did do a good deed, what a good friend would do. TM did what a good exec should do with a great talent. Mariah did what only of of the greatest singers and songwriters could do and she is responsible for her success, with the help of God.
(Wednesday 9 January 2013; 21:35)
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It's 2013 (37,064)
by TJ from Norway
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It's 2013, and her new album is not that far away anymore. I really, really hope for something big. Something like her first album, Music Box, Daydream or TEOM in success. If I was in charge, I would not go for "RnB", but pop music. I hope she makes some new ways and takes some risks, because it's been a while since Fantasy. 
(Wednesday 9 January 2013; 21:15)
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Carla (37,063)
by TJ from Norway
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I don't think anyone can blame Tommy for Glitter, the movie. It's just something people have to realise. It's not that good (I'm beeing nice). 
(Wednesday 9 January 2013; 21:07)
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Pearls before swine (37,062)
by nikki from usa
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Back in the 90's, I always thought it was weird that whenever Mariah was mentioned, so was Tommy for "finding" her. She showed up in front of him with the hits in her hand - how hard did he look? But, Clive wasn't mentioned everytime Whitney did something, why isn't Mottola after Celine for signing and promoting her? This doesn't happen to anyone else, just Mariah. Now, Mottola isn't mentioned anymore. Mariah showed up at the right time when Sony was near bankruptcy. They hadn't had a hit in years. He needed her and she saved his ass. She could've gone to Warner and been just fine - they also thought she'd be the next big thing. He even admits Mariah went against him in '95 and on, so he had nothing to do with those hits. After Mariah leaves Sony, she continues to sell millions and get #1's. Tommy spent millions trying to get Thalia to crossover including a magazine called Thalia! that went nowhere. Now, he's using Mariah's name for sales. Tommy's career is gone and forgottoe about while Mariah Carey's on.
(Wednesday 9 January 2013; 6:45)
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