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Something's going on behind the scenes (103,499)
by Edward from USA
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I also noticed that. She sounds and looks a little odd, but it is what it is, probably she was medicated.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 20:12)
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Something's going on behind the scenes (103,498)
by Brandon from USA
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While I'm enjoying this moment of MB30, I hate to be a negative Nancy, but did MC seem a bit "medicated" in those videos? She looked beautiful but something seemed a little bit off to me. I can't put my finger on it. I'm a very long time fan and can notice when she's a little different and there was something interesting going on here. Plus she's pretty much been MIA for a while. Maybe it's just me. Let me know what you guys think.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 17:52)
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Something's going on behind the scenes (103,498)
by Brandon from USA
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While I'm enjoying this moment of MB30, I hate to be a negative Nancy, but did MC seem a bit "medicated" in those videos? She looked beautiful but something seemed a little bit off to me. I can't put my finger on it. I'm a very long time fan and can notice when she's a little different and there was something interesting going on here. Plus she's pretty much been MIA for a while. Maybe it's just me. Let me know what you guys think.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 17:52)
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All I Live For differences Rarities/Extended (103,497)
by Andrew from the UK
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This video is perfect, thank you.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 12:55)
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All I Live For differences Rarities/Extended (103,494)
by 123 from USA
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Here is a video that points out the differences between the two versions. My theory is she found the Rarities version first and put that on Rarities. She found the extended version later and put that on MB30. A second theory is she found both but put the simpler version on Rarities and saved the extended for MB30 so she she had more to give us and help make the repurchase of an old album worth it. Not sure why some fans are complaining on why we got both and should have just got the extended. Honey was said to have 100 different vocal takes Puffy had to chose from. I wouldn't mind getting different Honey vocal takes on B30. I like both versions for different reasons. I prefer the verses from Rarities as she sings them much simpler and sticks to the melody more but I like the climax on the extended better. My version would be a blend of both. Th Rarities verses and the ending vocal climax of the extended.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 02:01)
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Why is Mariah's not releasing more albums? (103,496)
by Lady B from USA
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Lol those artists are combined 40+ years older than her. She's got time.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 04:44)
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Why is Mariah's not releasing more albums? (103,488)
by jaker20 from US
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Mariah's albums: 15 studio albums, 2 soundtrack albums, 8 compilation albums, 4 extended plays, and 1 remix album. Total 30 albums.
Madonna's albums: 15 studio albums, 3 soundtrack albums, 6 live albums, 7 compilation albums, and 39 other limited releases. Total 70 albums.
Barbra Streisand albums: 36 studio albums, 11 compilations, 11 live albums, and 15 soundtracks. Total 73 albums.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 20:21)
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A story (103,495)
by Andrew from the UK
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I once waited outside the Dorchester at around 3am with a friend and about 10 Mariah fans. Mariah had been filming and recording and someone we had met whilst following her in London knew she was due back. Eventually we would see her car pull up in the street and the dirty yellow light in the back illuminate a sleeping Mariah.
The car was stopped not 10 meters away, facing us head on, and Mariah's people calmly took about 20 minutes to wake her and fix her hair and makeup in the car. And then she got out and walked straight over to us alone, in the middle of the road.
I had simply thought she would go into the hotel to go to sleep. It was the middle of the night in December in London. It was very dark and very, very cold. But no. Mariah Carey slowly walked straight up to us and was standing right in front of me. I could have reached out and touched her - but it wasn't that kind of moment. It was far from it.
Soon after we walked straight to Oxford Street to join the overnight queue to get wristbands in the morning - wristbands that would grant us entry to the queue later in the day to have CD's signed by Mariah, herself. After several hours I couldn't stand and had to give up and go home in the drizzle and grey morning light. I don't remember how I got home.
I had actually felt quite unwell for a couple of days and had begun to rapidly decline. Exhausted, freezing and unwell I had passed out on my bed and woke up late in the evening. I was instantly screaming in pain as the slightest touch to or movement of my head felt like it was being hit with a brick. Since sleep made the pain go away, I wanted very desperately to go back to sleep and had pills to do so, but my flatmate frantically protested and called for an ambulance.
Later on the Doctors told me that - were I to have gone back to sleep - I would never have woken up again, for the lumbar puncture revealed I had meningitis.
But that private, quiet encounter with Mariah in the deep of the night will always stay with me. I was silently in another world as I watched her wake, walk and talk. It was not like all the times I had seen her in person before, whether on stage, in a studio, or outside a hotel. She was as if any other human being on Earth and, incredulously, not the one human being on Earth who had, from a great distance and long ago, filled my heart little heart with so much wonder, made me feel a little less shit about the horror around me and convinced me that I would always be able to find just a little more fight left within me.
I really had tried my best to make the signing that cold December 4th in 2005. I tried my best to stay in that line, leaning against the side of the HMV building off Oxford Street, other fans insisting it was crazy for me to give up and miss the opportunity. I was so close to a brief one-on-one that I had dreamt about as a little boy. But something was wrong, I had pushed it too far and it just was not meant to be.
It is somewhat ironic that trying to talk to Mariah almost killed me. Because I really wanted to use those few moments at that signing to tell her what I wished I had told her in the deep of the night only a few hours before: "Thank you so much for saving my life."
There is no Music Box without Hero and Anytime You Need A Friend. There is no me without Hero and Anytime You Need A Friend. And so there is no me without Music Box. And I shall love it the most, until the very end.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 02:46)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,486)
by Jamie from UK
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Hahaha [you're] too kind Andrew, I was literally shaking after though could barely sign the disclaimer lol.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 18:28)
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All I Live For differences Rarities/Extended (103,494)
by 123 from USA
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Here is a video that points out the differences between the two versions. My theory is she found the Rarities version first and put that on Rarities. She found the extended version later and put that on MB30. A second theory is she found both but put the simpler version on Rarities and saved the extended for MB30 so she she had more to give us and help make the repurchase of an old album worth it. Not sure why some fans are complaining on why we got both and should have just got the extended. Honey was said to have 100 different vocal takes Puffy had to chose from. I wouldn't mind getting different Honey vocal takes on B30. I like both versions for different reasons. I prefer the verses from Rarities as she sings them much simpler and sticks to the melody more but I like the climax on the extended better. My version would be a blend of both. Th Rarities verses and the ending vocal climax of the extended.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 02:01)
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All I Live For (103,485)
by Andrew from the UK
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I am convinced it's different recording takes mixed differently to make two different songs. Note All I Live For is "Extended Version" and AYNAF is "Extended Mix". I think Mariah created two different songs from sessions where no song was ever finalised.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 16:56)
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Why is Mariah's not releasing more albums? (103,493)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm not really sure, but that's what it says on her discography. Probably Glitter, and the All I Want for Christmas Is You animated film because Mariah wrote and produced half of that soundtrack.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 01:47)
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Why is Mariah's not releasing more albums? (103,491)
by Andrew from the UK
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Two soundtrack albums? Name one.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 00:16)
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Why is Mariah's not releasing more albums? (103,492)
by Edward from USA
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I think she's referring to Glitter and Tennessee which would've contained "Help Me Make It" and "Andy's Theme" had it been released.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 01:16)
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Why is Mariah's not releasing more albums? (103,491)
by Andrew from the UK
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Two soundtrack albums? Name one.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 00:16)
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Why is Mariah's not releasing more albums? (103,491)
by Andrew from the UK
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Two soundtrack albums? Name one.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 00:16)
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Why is Mariah's not releasing more albums? (103,488)
by jaker20 from US
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Mariah's albums: 15 studio albums, 2 soundtrack albums, 8 compilation albums, 4 extended plays, and 1 remix album. Total 30 albums.
Madonna's albums: 15 studio albums, 3 soundtrack albums, 6 live albums, 7 compilation albums, and 39 other limited releases. Total 70 albums.
Barbra Streisand albums: 36 studio albums, 11 compilations, 11 live albums, and 15 soundtracks. Total 73 albums.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 20:21)
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All I Live For (103,490)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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I think it's just a selection of the best different recordings put together, as she usually does to make the final perfect version (I would do too). Take a listen. The first chorus is exactly the same on both except that the 2020 version has one out of every two sentences cut off. The cutting can be heard if you listen closely. Have a try.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 23:54)
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All I Live For (103,487)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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The first chorus is different. Mariah sings the whole first chorus in the Extended Version. In The Rarities, basically the background singers do the whole first chorus. Also I noticed that in Extended Version, Mariah's voice is less nasal especially in "nobody's gonna steal my heart away".
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 18:34)
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AYNAF extended version (103,489)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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The finale of the song had been on YouTube long ago. I remember listening to it. And a more polished version a month ago.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 23:48)
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Why is Mariah's not releasing more albums? (103,488)
by jaker20 from US
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Mariah's albums: 15 studio albums, 2 soundtrack albums, 8 compilation albums, 4 extended plays, and 1 remix album. Total 30 albums.
Madonna's albums: 15 studio albums, 3 soundtrack albums, 6 live albums, 7 compilation albums, and 39 other limited releases. Total 70 albums.
Barbra Streisand albums: 36 studio albums, 11 compilations, 11 live albums, and 15 soundtracks. Total 73 albums.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 20:21)
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All I Live For (103,487)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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The first chorus is different. Mariah sings the whole first chorus in the Extended Version. In The Rarities, basically the background singers do the whole first chorus. Also I noticed that in Extended Version, Mariah's voice is less nasal especially in "nobody's gonna steal my heart away".
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 18:34)
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All I Live For (103,474)
by Andrew from the UK
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Apologies if this has already been discussed and deliberated but it's driving me a little insane: "No I would never play around" in the extended version sounds like The Rarities vocal with the word "around" different as if Mariah has taken the Rarities version and spliced it at that point. The extended version goes up on the word around and it doesn't flow like a phrase. I'm very confused: did Mariah condense the extended version to make a short version for The Rarities or - I'm a bit lost as to what I am hearing and what the differences are. Has anyone got this?
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 06:17)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,486)
by Jamie from UK
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Hahaha [you're] too kind Andrew, I was literally shaking after though could barely sign the disclaimer lol.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 18:28)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,484)
by Andrew from the UK
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Part 4. He's the handsome sweet bloke that genuinely - genuinely - looks like that moment meant the world to him. And to be fair he handles himself far better than I have in front of her - especially given that he had Justin and Alan to contend with. "Oh, smurf off, Jamie" and "Come on down, the water's lovely" was very quickfire comedy and it was probably the funniest part of the show. To have dealt with that and still hold your own in front of that crowd and Mariah herself was impressive. To, further, seize the day and try to get down onto the set is nothing short of gobsmacking. It's a great part of the show.
Enough of me giving compliments - they hurt my head. I'm not used to it.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 16:54)
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All I Live For (103,485)
by Andrew from the UK
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I am convinced it's different recording takes mixed differently to make two different songs. Note All I Live For is "Extended Version" and AYNAF is "Extended Mix". I think Mariah created two different songs from sessions where no song was ever finalised.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 16:56)
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All I Live For (103,481)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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Sounds like two different recording takes.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 13:42)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,484)
by Andrew from the UK
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Part 4. He's the handsome sweet bloke that genuinely - genuinely - looks like that moment meant the world to him. And to be fair he handles himself far better than I have in front of her - especially given that he had Justin and Alan to contend with. "Oh, smurf off, Jamie" and "Come on down, the water's lovely" was very quickfire comedy and it was probably the funniest part of the show. To have dealt with that and still hold your own in front of that crowd and Mariah herself was impressive. To, further, seize the day and try to get down onto the set is nothing short of gobsmacking. It's a great part of the show.
Enough of me giving compliments - they hurt my head. I'm not used to it.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 16:54)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,480)
by Bobby A from United States
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Which part can I see Jamie in? There are like 5 parts on YouTube.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 12:50)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,483)
by Jamie from UK
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It's the ask me anything section, part 4 maybe, I can't remember.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 16:10)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,480)
by Bobby A from United States
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Which part can I see Jamie in? There are like 5 parts on YouTube.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 12:50)
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All I Live For (103,482)
by Edward from USA
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That's what I think. That whistle at the end of the short version seems to have been recorded for the Rarities.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 13:59)
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All I Live For (103,474)
by Andrew from the UK
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Apologies if this has already been discussed and deliberated but it's driving me a little insane: "No I would never play around" in the extended version sounds like The Rarities vocal with the word "around" different as if Mariah has taken the Rarities version and spliced it at that point. The extended version goes up on the word around and it doesn't flow like a phrase. I'm very confused: did Mariah condense the extended version to make a short version for The Rarities or - I'm a bit lost as to what I am hearing and what the differences are. Has anyone got this?
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 06:17)
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All I Live For (103,481)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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Sounds like two different recording takes.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 13:42)
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All I Live For (103,474)
by Andrew from the UK
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Apologies if this has already been discussed and deliberated but it's driving me a little insane: "No I would never play around" in the extended version sounds like The Rarities vocal with the word "around" different as if Mariah has taken the Rarities version and spliced it at that point. The extended version goes up on the word around and it doesn't flow like a phrase. I'm very confused: did Mariah condense the extended version to make a short version for The Rarities or - I'm a bit lost as to what I am hearing and what the differences are. Has anyone got this?
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 06:17)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,480)
by Bobby A from United States
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Which part can I see Jamie in? There are like 5 parts on YouTube.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 12:50)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,473)
by Andrew from the UK
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E=MC2 is a much better record than The Emancipation of Mimi. It's one of Mariah's best. You should also check out The Friday Night Project on YouTube. Mariah looks amazing. So does Jamie, actually.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 06:02)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,479)
by Jamie from UK
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Hahaha. That was such a fun day and Mariah looked amazing. Literally shook when she said my name. I love E=MC2 more than Emancipation such a great album.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 10:48)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,473)
by Andrew from the UK
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E=MC2 is a much better record than The Emancipation of Mimi. It's one of Mariah's best. You should also check out The Friday Night Project on YouTube. Mariah looks amazing. So does Jamie, actually.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 06:02)
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MB30 - reflections (103,478)
by Bill from the UK
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Now some time has passed, here are my thoughts.
Disc 1: I've always loved the album, and never understood the group of fans that dismissed it. It's beautifully sung, expertly recorded, it showed more nuances to her voice than before, and her "pen game" as you kids call it these days for some reason, was superb. A 23 year-old writing Anytime You Need a Friend, Never Forget You, Hero, Dreamlover, Everything Fades Away? Wow. Speaking of Everything Fades Away, it was pleasing Mariah included this on the 'original' album. I know over the years each side of the pond has stated their case for the better finish to the album. Perhaps we can agree that All I've Ever Wanted is a gorgeous finale and send off, whereas Everything Fades Away is the hauntingly beautiful epilogue? Looking at this site's discography, more versions of the album included it than didn't, and it seems like Mariah herself views it as the true ending to the album.
Disc 2: Okay wow. It's strange how on The Rarities, All I Live For was just, there. It was a pleasant little bop, but I was like "yeah, I get why it was left off." How is the extended version like a thousand times better? Honestly it elevates the song to a whole new level, and her vocals are astonishing. Great to see Luther added, as I always viewed Endless Love as part of the Music Box era, and was surprised the album never got re-issued to include it after it did so well. Workin' Hard and My Prayer I can't keep away from. I adore them. I am so sad they were locked up in the vault for 30 years, but look at them now having their day in the sun. The TOTP performances and remixes I am happy with, especially as the two full-length 10-minute epic and iconic club mixes were included. The only small hang up I have is with Hero (2009 Version). Firstly, it was recorded in 2008, so let's get that out the way. Second, I think I would have preferred the Spanish version to be included as it was 'of the time', whereas this was a good stretch afterwards, so it feels somewhat out of place. Everything else is from the period (save the two new mixes). I detested the re-recording when it came out to promote The Ballads, but as I have mellowed I see it was what it was. It's fine now, I'm at peace with it, but yeh. It's the only point where I pause briefly.
Disc 3: We all love Proctor's Theatre don't we. What a concert. For many of us, the first one we saw. I also had two worn out VHS in my time, and then switched to the DVD when that was issued. It is my go-to 'comfort' concert. Whenever I've had a bad day and I need lifting up, or I'm perturbed by the world and all what's going on, I watch it. It takes me back to childhood, the wonder that was early Mariah, the nostalgia I wallow in, the happy memories it invokes. Like a few of you, every move, hand gesture, giggle, is committed to memory. Having it on audio is so, so good.
General: Again, I never had an issue with the original cover. It was a bit botched on the cassette version as she was half a head, but the CD always looked beautiful. It gave a Marilyn Monroe vibe, and had a certain simplicity to it. The uncropped version is equally as nice though. If anyone's gone into panic mode over the physical release having a big border around the original cover, this is a slip case that will reveal the uncropped cover beneath it.
But thank you Mariah, for everything. 10/10.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 10:08)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,477)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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No. TEOM was a hit, but Daydream was huge. Just think of Fantasy, One Sweet Day and ABMB alone. The years 95 to 96 were on another level than 2005.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 09:53)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,471)
by Bobby A from United States
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Isn't it really TEOM? WBT skyrocketed album sales to 5 million. WBT will always be her biggest radio airplay hit.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 00:28)
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Since we're wondering (103,476)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes, the physical formats are not due until February 2024. I suppose they will take the pre-orders and then ascertain how many to manufacture. If anyone ordered through MC's store, you can cancel and re-order through Amazon where you get free shipping if you have Prime.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 09:53)
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Since we're wondering (103,470)
by Brad from USA
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Has anyone decoded the "coat of arms" on the windows Mariah shows in her latest ""Dreamlover" tribute post where she is wearing the black and white flannel shirt? I think this is all very intentional on her part. It's a clue as to where she is (obviously) and what she is up to. I know September 15th will lend some insight too at MSG. I think it's a clue just like pointing to that poster of "I'm gonna need a bigger boat" from back around her birthday. Also, do we have to wait until 2024 for the physical forms of MB30 to be available, I read that somewhere. Thanks.
(Wednesday 13 September 2023; 22:54)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,475)
by Stacey from USA
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I always felt like TEOM was Daydream, part 2. She went back to those formulas that worked so well on Daydream and used them again on TEOM. She wrote crossover hits that could be played on Pop/Adult Contemporary stations as well as hip/hop R&B stations. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love TEOM because it reminded me of Daydream. After CB, I thought the light airy whisper was her new direction and I was a bit sad. I miss that strong middle of the road full voice vocal. She went back to what made her so successful in the 1990s, the voice. Remember the theme to TEOM? The return of the voice. Daydream oozes perfection.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 07:43)
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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,471)
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Isn't it really TEOM? WBT skyrocketed album sales to 5 million. WBT will always be her biggest radio airplay hit.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 00:28)
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The webmaster has the right to refuse any message he doesn't like.
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