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"Emotions" album appreciation (102,592) by BFF from United States Yes to all of this. And Trey Lorenz, Patrick McMillan, and the other guys backing her up during live performances were phenomenal. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 03:03) this is a reply to message 102,586

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,586) by Jamie from UK Emotions album is one of my favourites, it oozes soul, her voice is so warm and the ballads are perfect. Till the End of Time is a masterpiece, it's beautiful. And one of my all time favourite songs is Can't Let Go. The video portrays a classy Mariah, something about her in that video is different she shows so much passion. Her image was so refined during this album wholesome, relatable and appealing. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 21:19)

Anytime You Need a Friend - Extended (102,591) by BFF from United States What crazy person decided to leave out the extended fadeout on this song? The vocals at the end are absolutely sublime and should have been included on the final studio version. Mariah totally goes off, and I'm here for it. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 02:39)

No new album in 2023 (102,590) by Bobby A from United States Really? What is going on with Mimi? She can't even do her studio magic anymore. Her voice will never be the same. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 00:20) this is a reply to message 102,589

No new album in 2023 (102,589) by T from USA It's been all but confirmed by some Mariah insiders on Twitter that she does not have the rumored projects coming this year that everyone thought. Not even the Butterfly Lounge. That leaves us waiting until next year, however seeing how 2024 is the 30th Anniversary of "Merry Christmas" I'm sure that will be the priority next year. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 00:02)

No new album in 2023 (102,589) by T from USA It's been all but confirmed by some Mariah insiders on Twitter that she does not have the rumored projects coming this year that everyone thought. Not even the Butterfly Lounge. That leaves us waiting until next year, however seeing how 2024 is the 30th Anniversary of "Merry Christmas" I'm sure that will be the priority next year. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 00:02)

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,588) by MusicfanJ from Germany The video of "Can't let go" is pure art. The black and white, so classy. She looks like a Hollywood star, I mean that positive. (Old classy Hollywood.) So sensual indeed just like the song. A masterpiece. I love it too and always will. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 22:53) this is a reply to message 102,586

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,586) by Jamie from UK Emotions album is one of my favourites, it oozes soul, her voice is so warm and the ballads are perfect. Till the End of Time is a masterpiece, it's beautiful. And one of my all time favourite songs is Can't Let Go. The video portrays a classy Mariah, something about her in that video is different she shows so much passion. Her image was so refined during this album wholesome, relatable and appealing. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 21:19)

Female singers (102,587) by MusicfanJ from Germany "Make music that mirror their life", yes absolutely. That's what I'm missing too. It's good to get older and wiser and the music should show it. Not trying to be 20. Mariah's 90ies albums had the best melodies and I love the lyrics. Funny the sound was more for grown-ups than on the last two albums. I would still love a Jazz album by Mariah. Or back to her "roots" classic Mariah Carey with a real band/musicians. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 22:45) this is a reply to message 102,584

Female singers (102,584) by TJ from Norway I know that show business is harder for women, but the reason I like Sting and many other male singers is the fact that they have not tried to compete with the younger generations. I love Mariah, I love Madonna and many more, but why don't they make music that mirror their life, and their age. I'm getting older too, and younger artists like Adele feels more my age. I love Mariah, specially 1990 to 1997. Drop the lazy RnB. Make melodies. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 20:05)

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,586) by Jamie from UK Emotions album is one of my favourites, it oozes soul, her voice is so warm and the ballads are perfect. Till the End of Time is a masterpiece, it's beautiful. And one of my all time favourite songs is Can't Let Go. The video portrays a classy Mariah, something about her in that video is different she shows so much passion. Her image was so refined during this album wholesome, relatable and appealing. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 21:19) this is a reply to message 102,562

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,562) by BFF from United States I find myself looking back on this album/era regretting that it hasn't been properly appreciated by fans and critics alike. I consider it Mariah's most "adult" album and my second favorite behind "Butterfly". Songs like "Can't Let Go", "If It's Over", Make It Happen", "So Blessed" and others sound and feel like they were recorded/written by someone much older than early 20s. Having C+C Music Factory alongside Walter Afanasieff really helped her strike a "just right" balance of soul, pop, gospel, and house. It was also unique in the sense that she was not yet married to Tommy but had full control over the creative direction of the album. It makes me wonder what her trajectory would have been if she hadn't decided to marry Tommy. Don't get me wrong, I love "Music Box" and "Daydream", but "Emotions" really tops both of those records in terms of writing, vocals, and production. She seemed much happier in the "Emotions" period and not very happy during the 1993-1996 period. It's such a unique moment in her catalog and career. (Sunday 16 April 2023; 02:19)

Mine (102,585) by Bobby A from United States Ditto. In order to do it, MC has to forget about aiming for a #1 hit. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 21:10) this is a reply to message 102,583

Mine (102,583) by Tevin from USA I live this new song by Kelly Clarkson. I would love it if Mariah would create a song like this. Powerful vocals yet easier to sing. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 17:06)

Female singers (102,584) by TJ from Norway I know that show business is harder for women, but the reason I like Sting and many other male singers is the fact that they have not tried to compete with the younger generations. I love Mariah, I love Madonna and many more, but why don't they make music that mirror their life, and their age. I'm getting older too, and younger artists like Adele feels more my age. I love Mariah, specially 1990 to 1997. Drop the lazy RnB. Make melodies. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 20:05) this is a reply to message 102,571

Female singers (102,571) by MusicfanJ from Germany Well, I think there's nothing harder for women than showbusiness. And I wonder if it will ever change? Look at the Stones, Elton John, Sting, Bryan Adams. Nobody cares how old they are, for women it should be the same. But it's not. Tina Turner, Gladys Knight and Cher are really the coolest who showed how wrong the media and record companies are. But they are sadly rare indeed. Music should never be about age or anything. It's so dumb. A voice, talent is the only thing that is needed. Something that is totally missed by most of today's "artists". (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 11:22)

Mine (102,583) by Tevin from USA I live this new song by Kelly Clarkson. I would love it if Mariah would create a song like this. Powerful vocals yet easier to sing. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 17:06)

Female singers (102,582) by Tevin from USA Steven, out of curiosity, why do you think Beyonce is in her version of an E=MC2 era? (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 17:04) this is a reply to message 102,570

Female singers (102,570) by Steven Berning from USA Preach. Yes, the double standard is crazy. I remember reading an article about Pink having to "fight" to get her songs played after 35. 35 is old? Mariah beat the odds with hits like "Obsessed" and "Beautiful". Mark my words, Beyonce is going through her E=MC2 phrase right now. Her fans better get ready for memeroirs and beyond. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 09:26)

Female singers (102,581) by BFF from United States I disagree that Mariah's "racial identity" was concealed during her early years by Tommy. She is on the record in one of her first TV interviews in 1990 about this. Critics like Nelson George who made Mariah's "racial identity" into a big deal were the problem, not Tommy. No other female singer of that era (or any era, really) was called upon by critics to constantly explain her "racial" background. No one made a big deal about Whitney Houston's background, Celine Dion's background, or Toni Braxton's background. Just Mariah's. And the people who constantly asked her to self-identify so were feeding into racialist and racist thinking. This is the same BS that got applied to gay/lesbian artists who would rather focus on their musical output than constantly have to discuss their sexual orientation. The implication of this never-ending discussion is that African-Americans somehow are inherently better singers than people of European descent or that skin color has anything to do with singing ability. And Mariah was called upon to pander to this nonsense. Listen to a Janet Jackson record alongside a Celine Dion record, and you'll know that this is absolute BS. Fans who continue to focus on this (and even Mariah herself) cheapen Mariah's artistry and accomplishments. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 13:38) this is a reply to message 102,580

Female singers (102,580) by Bobby A from United States One thing that I did notice from 1990-1997 is that Tommy concealed her bi-racial identity in any way that he could. Go back and watch those early 90s performances and interviews, it was hard to tell during those years that MC was bi-racial at least for me. Tommy's oppressive behavior over MC really did something to her emotionally and mentally. MC was never the same woman after 1997. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 03:10)

Female singers (102,580) by Bobby A from United States One thing that I did notice from 1990-1997 is that Tommy concealed her bi-racial identity in any way that he could. Go back and watch those early 90s performances and interviews, it was hard to tell during those years that MC was bi-racial at least for me. Tommy's oppressive behavior over MC really did something to her emotionally and mentally. MC was never the same woman after 1997. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 03:10) this is a reply to message 102,578

Female singers (102,578) by BFF from United States Oh, I totally agree that marrying Tommy undermined her credibility in the eyes of some people. I also agree that he had a positive impact on her career prior to their separation. I think Mariah also had a lot to do with her own success, but Tommy should be given the credit he is due. He was correct to steer her away from movies. I wish she had opted not to marry him and instead only interacted with him in a professional capacity or maybe tried a bit harder post-1997 to be civil and professional. I think marrying him meant she had something to prove once they separated in 1997/98 and it resulted in her making a number of poor choices in the ensuing years just to be "anti-Tommy" rather than being "pro-Mariah". Backing out of the US leg of the "Butterfly" tour for that stupid movie with Chris Tucker (ugh), rushing the "Rainbow" album out the door, watering down the original concept for "Glitter", tacking way too many rappers onto songs on "Rainbow" and "Glitter", focusing too much on her image and not on her voice, etcetera. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 01:19)

If you were a star would you.... (102,579) by Tyler from USA I'm sorry her but most successful and respected years has to be the TEOM era. No one does what she did after 15 years in the industry and being blacklisted. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 02:32) this is a reply to message 102,573

If you were a star would you.... (102,573) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Maybe not read comments and replies that often, I think that would have made me crazy. The comments are either overly positive or overly negative. I might come to this board once in a while, because we are not yes people on this board. But maybe I would have stayed away when the messages become too harsh. But I would go for the constructive criticism. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 16:38)

Female singers (102,578) by BFF from United States Oh, I totally agree that marrying Tommy undermined her credibility in the eyes of some people. I also agree that he had a positive impact on her career prior to their separation. I think Mariah also had a lot to do with her own success, but Tommy should be given the credit he is due. He was correct to steer her away from movies. I wish she had opted not to marry him and instead only interacted with him in a professional capacity or maybe tried a bit harder post-1997 to be civil and professional. I think marrying him meant she had something to prove once they separated in 1997/98 and it resulted in her making a number of poor choices in the ensuing years just to be "anti-Tommy" rather than being "pro-Mariah". Backing out of the US leg of the "Butterfly" tour for that stupid movie with Chris Tucker (ugh), rushing the "Rainbow" album out the door, watering down the original concept for "Glitter", tacking way too many rappers onto songs on "Rainbow" and "Glitter", focusing too much on her image and not on her voice, etcetera. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 01:19) this is a reply to message 102,575

Female singers (102,575) by Bill from the UK "Marrying Tommy was a massive mistake because it meant she had zero separation between her personal and professional life, a recipe for burnout. And when it became clear that Tommy was sabotaging her during the 1998-2001 period, she had to work that much harder." No one likes to say it, but the other side to this is that marrying Tommy made her lose a lot of credibility. There was a question mark over her success because she was cleverly married to the boss of the record company. If Tommy could quite easily sabotage her career, he could quite easily make her successful. Her most successful years 1993-1997. The years she was Tommy's wife? 1993-1997. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 20:19)

Female singers (102,577) by Geronimo from USA The real question is simply, "Did Tommy Mottola make you think you liked Mariah Carey, or did he make sure you had a chance to discover if you liked Mariah Carey during her vocal rather than artistic prime?" If we only describe Mariah's success in terms of record sales, then, yes, Tommy's relationship to her success remains a valid topic for conversation. But if you base your understanding of her success on the long and difficult process of transforming her raw talent and creative drive into a form that true fans have loved to experience for the 35 years, then you have to give credit where credit is due. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 00:32) this is a reply to message 102,575

Female singers (102,575) by Bill from the UK "Marrying Tommy was a massive mistake because it meant she had zero separation between her personal and professional life, a recipe for burnout. And when it became clear that Tommy was sabotaging her during the 1998-2001 period, she had to work that much harder." No one likes to say it, but the other side to this is that marrying Tommy made her lose a lot of credibility. There was a question mark over her success because she was cleverly married to the boss of the record company. If Tommy could quite easily sabotage her career, he could quite easily make her successful. Her most successful years 1993-1997. The years she was Tommy's wife? 1993-1997. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 20:19)

If you were a star would you.... (102,576) by JC from USA This is where Taylor kind of crushes it. She uses fan accounts (ie Taylor Nation) to actually drive narratives, lay Easter eggs, etc. I wouldn't look at basic headlines but I'd look at what my fans are posting and engage with them. I'd also have my team either run or work with fan sites/handles. I'd also have my team use data through social monitoring tools to identify overall sentiment and trends. And also identify top level influencers that we should engage with. ...as someone that works in marketing. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 20:59) this is a reply to message 102,573

If you were a star would you.... (102,573) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Maybe not read comments and replies that often, I think that would have made me crazy. The comments are either overly positive or overly negative. I might come to this board once in a while, because we are not yes people on this board. But maybe I would have stayed away when the messages become too harsh. But I would go for the constructive criticism. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 16:38)

Female singers (102,575) by Bill from the UK "Marrying Tommy was a massive mistake because it meant she had zero separation between her personal and professional life, a recipe for burnout. And when it became clear that Tommy was sabotaging her during the 1998-2001 period, she had to work that much harder." No one likes to say it, but the other side to this is that marrying Tommy made her lose a lot of credibility. There was a question mark over her success because she was cleverly married to the boss of the record company. If Tommy could quite easily sabotage her career, he could quite easily make her successful. Her most successful years 1993-1997. The years she was Tommy's wife? 1993-1997. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 20:19) this is a reply to message 102,572

Female singers (102,572) by BFF from United States I think each case is unique, and I don't think this is necessarily an issue of industry sexism. Britney Spears and her management chose for her to have an inappropriately sexualized image from the start of her career, and I believe that is the genesis of a lot of her issues. Britney could push herself harder on the choreography front because she didn't write/produce her own material and never sang live. I believe Mariah overworked herself due to her deep-seated insecurity around identity, the chaotic/dysfunctional nature of her childhood, and her decision to become romantically involved with her boss (Tommy). It definitely did not help when Nelson George called her a "white girl who can sing black" and when people started setting her against Whitney Houston. And let's be honest, Whitney and her fans wish that she had written and sang a song as great as "Vision of Love". Still grinds my gears that Whitney is seen as having more "credibility" when she didn't write or produce a damn word of her own material. Marrying Tommy was a massive mistake because it meant she had zero separation between her personal and professional life, a recipe for burnout. And when it became clear that Tommy was sabotaging her during the 1998-2001 period, she had to work that much harder. But really ever since 2001, Mariah has been pretty relaxed on the career front. Long periods between studio albums, some touring but nothing as strenuous as what other artists do, detours into movies. I don't think Mariah has pushed herself particularly hard since the early 2000s. The bottom line is that all people in the entertainment business opted into this for their career and can walk away at any time if it's too much for them. They all have the privilege of earning a living from something other people do as a hobby. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 16:20)

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,574) by Brad from USA It's interesting because while I know not many folks watch American Idol any longer, I did watch it last night and observed one contestant attempting to perform "Emotions", in her own way, and the judges even mentioning Mariah's name (twice) and saying they were "big shoes to fill". It's funny, more than 30 years later, the song and Mariah's performance of the song still have an influence on some aspiring singers. I personally think it is one of the most difficult songs to even attempt to sing, with whistle notes and the power and execution that Mariah demonstrated. I am not aware of a singer that has competently performed this song in the same way since Mariah. Perhaps an equally worthy testament of the sum of her staying power and effect. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 19:30) this is a reply to message 102,562

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,562) by BFF from United States I find myself looking back on this album/era regretting that it hasn't been properly appreciated by fans and critics alike. I consider it Mariah's most "adult" album and my second favorite behind "Butterfly". Songs like "Can't Let Go", "If It's Over", Make It Happen", "So Blessed" and others sound and feel like they were recorded/written by someone much older than early 20s. Having C+C Music Factory alongside Walter Afanasieff really helped her strike a "just right" balance of soul, pop, gospel, and house. It was also unique in the sense that she was not yet married to Tommy but had full control over the creative direction of the album. It makes me wonder what her trajectory would have been if she hadn't decided to marry Tommy. Don't get me wrong, I love "Music Box" and "Daydream", but "Emotions" really tops both of those records in terms of writing, vocals, and production. She seemed much happier in the "Emotions" period and not very happy during the 1993-1996 period. It's such a unique moment in her catalog and career. (Sunday 16 April 2023; 02:19)

If you were a star would you.... (102,573) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Maybe not read comments and replies that often, I think that would have made me crazy. The comments are either overly positive or overly negative. I might come to this board once in a while, because we are not yes people on this board. But maybe I would have stayed away when the messages become too harsh. But I would go for the constructive criticism. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 16:38) this is a reply to message 102,568

If you were a star would you.... (102,568) by Lady B from USA 1. Read your social media comments/replies? 2. Read your fan boards? Bonus question: 3. If you were the star that is the subject of this fan board, would you read it a second time? (Assuming you checked it once and saw the content, would you come back?) (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 06:36)

Female singers (102,572) by BFF from United States I think each case is unique, and I don't think this is necessarily an issue of industry sexism. Britney Spears and her management chose for her to have an inappropriately sexualized image from the start of her career, and I believe that is the genesis of a lot of her issues. Britney could push herself harder on the choreography front because she didn't write/produce her own material and never sang live. I believe Mariah overworked herself due to her deep-seated insecurity around identity, the chaotic/dysfunctional nature of her childhood, and her decision to become romantically involved with her boss (Tommy). It definitely did not help when Nelson George called her a "white girl who can sing black" and when people started setting her against Whitney Houston. And let's be honest, Whitney and her fans wish that she had written and sang a song as great as "Vision of Love". Still grinds my gears that Whitney is seen as having more "credibility" when she didn't write or produce a damn word of her own material. Marrying Tommy was a massive mistake because it meant she had zero separation between her personal and professional life, a recipe for burnout. And when it became clear that Tommy was sabotaging her during the 1998-2001 period, she had to work that much harder. But really ever since 2001, Mariah has been pretty relaxed on the career front. Long periods between studio albums, some touring but nothing as strenuous as what other artists do, detours into movies. I don't think Mariah has pushed herself particularly hard since the early 2000s. The bottom line is that all people in the entertainment business opted into this for their career and can walk away at any time if it's too much for them. They all have the privilege of earning a living from something other people do as a hobby. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 16:20) this is a reply to message 102,567

Female singers (102,567) by Bobby A from United States Why do female singers seemed to have various career setbacks and have a hard time telling people no more than male singers? From MC to Britney to Ariana to Adele to Toni Braxton, it has happened to them all. They just to seem to have more career problems after a fast ride to success. While male singers from Usher to Kem to Sam Smith to Ed Sherran have more of a balanced approach to their career success. Are female singers pushed harder to become successful at a faster pace than their male counterparts? Looking at Ariana's recent video post of her looking frail and not looking like she did 2 years ago prompted my post. She looks like she is just tired from recording and touring from the past 10 years. (Monday 17 April 2023; 04:35)

Female singers (102,571) by MusicfanJ from Germany Well, I think there's nothing harder for women than showbusiness. And I wonder if it will ever change? Look at the Stones, Elton John, Sting, Bryan Adams. Nobody cares how old they are, for women it should be the same. But it's not. Tina Turner, Gladys Knight and Cher are really the coolest who showed how wrong the media and record companies are. But they are sadly rare indeed. Music should never be about age or anything. It's so dumb. A voice, talent is the only thing that is needed. Something that is totally missed by most of today's "artists". (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 11:22) this is a reply to message 102,570

Female singers (102,570) by Steven Berning from USA Preach. Yes, the double standard is crazy. I remember reading an article about Pink having to "fight" to get her songs played after 35. 35 is old? Mariah beat the odds with hits like "Obsessed" and "Beautiful". Mark my words, Beyonce is going through her E=MC2 phrase right now. Her fans better get ready for memeroirs and beyond. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 09:26)

Female singers (102,570) by Steven Berning from USA Preach. Yes, the double standard is crazy. I remember reading an article about Pink having to "fight" to get her songs played after 35. 35 is old? Mariah beat the odds with hits like "Obsessed" and "Beautiful". Mark my words, Beyonce is going through her E=MC2 phrase right now. Her fans better get ready for memeroirs and beyond. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 09:26) this is a reply to message 102,567

Female singers (102,567) by Bobby A from United States Why do female singers seemed to have various career setbacks and have a hard time telling people no more than male singers? From MC to Britney to Ariana to Adele to Toni Braxton, it has happened to them all. They just to seem to have more career problems after a fast ride to success. While male singers from Usher to Kem to Sam Smith to Ed Sherran have more of a balanced approach to their career success. Are female singers pushed harder to become successful at a faster pace than their male counterparts? Looking at Ariana's recent video post of her looking frail and not looking like she did 2 years ago prompted my post. She looks like she is just tired from recording and touring from the past 10 years. (Monday 17 April 2023; 04:35)

Streams (102,569) by Terna from Nigeria Oh yeah, I noticed this on Spotify too just under a year and her followers were not even near 20 million. Only to check during the Christmas festive season and notice that massive jump. She gained about over 6 million if not more in just maybe two months. Lol. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 09:09) this is a reply to message 102,566

Streams (102,566) by Mariahsbaby from usa Mariah Carey's monthly listeners on Spotify on this day: 2023: 23.075.729! #190 2022: 18.058.770! #219 2021: 14.389.552! #283 The growth is crazy. PS: I forgot about Addie, I have seen her gorgeous picture. (Sunday 16 April 2023; 15:05)

If you were a star would you.... (102,568) by Lady B from USA 1. Read your social media comments/replies? 2. Read your fan boards? Bonus question: 3. If you were the star that is the subject of this fan board, would you read it a second time? (Assuming you checked it once and saw the content, would you come back?) (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 06:36)

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