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Get off the cross, we need the wood (103,792) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia Y'all need to get yourself a grip up there in the Northern Hemisphere. I would give my left nut to see MC doing a Christmas show. You lot bitching and moaning about aspects of the Christmas concerts - spare a thought for those of us in the ass-end of the world that never get factored into Christmas concerts. And on top of that, we have to wake up to 40C and blazing sun on Christmas Day and listen to songs about how cold and snowy it is while we sweat into our speedos. (Wednesday 18 October 2023; 05:51)

Tis the season for something... (103,791) by Brandon from USA With all due respect, MC is not that girl when it comes to fashion. She's had a few good fashion moments here and there throughout the years, but fashion and designing clothes is not her thing. Her personal style is not good. (Wednesday 18 October 2023; 04:59) this is a reply to message 103,789

Tis the season for something... (103,789) by SM from Citizen of the World Mariah can't do a thing without getting criticism. I mean you're really gonna judge her dress in a photo with her children? That's just pretty low. Most of these comments on this board are low, it's sad. (Wednesday 18 October 2023; 00:48)

Tis the season for something... (103,790) by Bobby A from United States The ensemble dahling always overshadows the wait for a big announcement. I wish that she just teases us that an announcement is coming soon. I need time to save my coins. I bet James Poyser knows. He always posts daily on X about things. (Wednesday 18 October 2023; 03:28) this is a reply to message 103,789

Tis the season for something... (103,789) by SM from Citizen of the World Mariah can't do a thing without getting criticism. I mean you're really gonna judge her dress in a photo with her children? That's just pretty low. Most of these comments on this board are low, it's sad. (Wednesday 18 October 2023; 00:48)

Tis the season for something... (103,789) by SM from Citizen of the World Mariah can't do a thing without getting criticism. I mean you're really gonna judge her dress in a photo with her children? That's just pretty low. Most of these comments on this board are low, it's sad. (Wednesday 18 October 2023; 00:48) this is a reply to message 103,785

Tis the season for something... (103,785) by Jamie from UK I hope this is true and not just that awful dress she's flogging. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 22:11)

Torn (103,788) by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States What’s your point? (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 23:14) this is a reply to message 103,778

Torn (103,778) by Lady B from USA LA Christmas show sold out in minutes and they added another date. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 07:06)

Tis the season for something... (103,787) by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States I was wondering if only people in LA got the invite? (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 23:13) this is a reply to message 103,780

Tis the season for something... (103,780) by Shezz from Pk Mariah has a Spotify taping with fans in LA in early November. She is also rumored to make a big announcement before her Christmas tour starts and have a big collaboration coming up. Could the fabled "Themed Album" be another Christmas album? Whereas a third Christmas album would be crazy even for Mariah, it also could be her safest album venture. Mariah is smart and knows her albums don't sell anymore but she also knows that she holds special magical powers during the holiday season. It's a long shot but maybe she's recorded another holiday album with a lot of collaborations? Either way - something is a'brewing. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 15:25)

Einstein is a No No (103,786) by Bobby A from United States E=MC2 is a clever album title and her most unique. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 23:03) this is a reply to message 103,784

Einstein is a No No (103,784) by Bill from the UK Especially as Einstein is more keystrokes that E=MC2. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 18:40)

Tis the season for something... (103,785) by Jamie from UK I hope this is true and not just that awful dress she's flogging. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 22:11) this is a reply to message 103,780

Tis the season for something... (103,780) by Shezz from Pk Mariah has a Spotify taping with fans in LA in early November. She is also rumored to make a big announcement before her Christmas tour starts and have a big collaboration coming up. Could the fabled "Themed Album" be another Christmas album? Whereas a third Christmas album would be crazy even for Mariah, it also could be her safest album venture. Mariah is smart and knows her albums don't sell anymore but she also knows that she holds special magical powers during the holiday season. It's a long shot but maybe she's recorded another holiday album with a lot of collaborations? Either way - something is a'brewing. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 15:25)

Einstein is a No No (103,784) by Bill from the UK Especially as Einstein is more keystrokes that E=MC2. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 18:40) this is a reply to message 103,783

Einstein is a No No (103,783) by Edward from USA Sorry, but no. E=MC2 is fine. It's weird and confusing referring to E=MC2 as Einstein. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 18:28)

Einstein is a No No (103,783) by Edward from USA Sorry, but no. E=MC2 is fine. It's weird and confusing referring to E=MC2 as Einstein. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 18:28) this is a reply to message 103,782

Einstein is a No No (103,782) by "MariahHater" from Hell C'mon you guys. It's just a nickname for the album. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 17:58)

Einstein is a No No (103,782) by "MariahHater" from Hell C'mon you guys. It's just a nickname for the album. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 17:58) this is a reply to message 103,779

Einstein is a No No (103,779) by MusicfanJ from Germany I just read the word "Einstein" and thought it was a new hot producer in America. Lol. So funny. But indeed the name of the album E=MC2 fits perfect. To call it Einstein is really a no no. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 11:03)

Tis the season for something... (103,781) by Bobby A from United States I knew something was up with the new Instagram picture with twins yesterday. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 17:53) this is a reply to message 103,780

Tis the season for something... (103,780) by Shezz from Pk Mariah has a Spotify taping with fans in LA in early November. She is also rumored to make a big announcement before her Christmas tour starts and have a big collaboration coming up. Could the fabled "Themed Album" be another Christmas album? Whereas a third Christmas album would be crazy even for Mariah, it also could be her safest album venture. Mariah is smart and knows her albums don't sell anymore but she also knows that she holds special magical powers during the holiday season. It's a long shot but maybe she's recorded another holiday album with a lot of collaborations? Either way - something is a'brewing. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 15:25)

Tis the season for something... (103,780) by Shezz from Pk Mariah has a Spotify taping with fans in LA in early November. She is also rumored to make a big announcement before her Christmas tour starts and have a big collaboration coming up. Could the fabled "Themed Album" be another Christmas album? Whereas a third Christmas album would be crazy even for Mariah, it also could be her safest album venture. Mariah is smart and knows her albums don't sell anymore but she also knows that she holds special magical powers during the holiday season. It's a long shot but maybe she's recorded another holiday album with a lot of collaborations? Either way - something is a'brewing. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 15:25)

Einstein is a No No (103,779) by MusicfanJ from Germany I just read the word "Einstein" and thought it was a new hot producer in America. Lol. So funny. But indeed the name of the album E=MC2 fits perfect. To call it Einstein is really a no no. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 11:03) this is a reply to message 103,774

Einstein is a No No (103,774) by Edward from USA Same sentiment here. E=MC2 is just fine. (Monday 16 October 2023; 18:19)

Torn (103,778) by Lady B from USA LA Christmas show sold out in minutes and they added another date. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 07:06) this is a reply to message 103,776

Torn (103,776) by enwar00 from usa I am torn as well. I've seen Mariah every time she's come to Chicago, from Music Box through Caution, and part of me wants to keep the streak going. But I already saw her Christmas show at the Beacon Theater during its second year in 2015, which may have been the best year for it voice wise. Also, ticket prices have become ridiculous post-COVID, so that turns me off and makes me tired of playing that game. Lastly, based on the most recent videos, I'm not sure if it's even worth it. With that said, I was pleasantly surprised and impressed with the Christmas special that aired last year, so maybe she'll pull some miracle and it'll sound good. So, yes, I'm also torn. Perhaps I'll watch last year's show off my DVR early December and decide then. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 01:06)

What is wrong with Mariah? (103,777) by Lady B from USA Her legacy is cemented. Nothing she does now will take away her 19 #1s and place in music and writing history. That isn't a "yass queen" take, that's just reality. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 07:03) this is a reply to message 103,775

What is wrong with Mariah? (103,775) by Bobby A from United States Libra, we all are truly concerned about MC's career. Retirement will save her legacy. If she continues down this path of poor performances, YouTube viewers and music critics are not going to be nice anymore. She should stop performing live until her vocal issues are resolved. I would rather have The Rarities release #2-5 for the next 5 years than for MC to continue performing live and sounding a hot mess. I just wish Kuk Harrell or Mervyn Warren or Donald Lawrence were around in the 90s as her vocal coach producing her vocals. They would have told her no to the way she sung in that breathiness tone from 1995-1999 and to stop the whistle notes. If only Tommy made MC have a vocal coach during those early years, we might not be cringing in our seats now with every live performance. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 01:04)

Torn (103,776) by enwar00 from usa I am torn as well. I've seen Mariah every time she's come to Chicago, from Music Box through Caution, and part of me wants to keep the streak going. But I already saw her Christmas show at the Beacon Theater during its second year in 2015, which may have been the best year for it voice wise. Also, ticket prices have become ridiculous post-COVID, so that turns me off and makes me tired of playing that game. Lastly, based on the most recent videos, I'm not sure if it's even worth it. With that said, I was pleasantly surprised and impressed with the Christmas special that aired last year, so maybe she'll pull some miracle and it'll sound good. So, yes, I'm also torn. Perhaps I'll watch last year's show off my DVR early December and decide then. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 01:06) this is a reply to message 103,764

Torn (103,764) by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States Wow, I haven't posted here in years. I see some familiar faces still live here. Is anyone else torn on whether or not to go see Mariah in this upcoming run of shows? On the one hand, I want to see her because I've been a lamb for 25 years. With so many stars dying, there is always a scary thought of what if this is your last chance in the back on my head. On the other hand, her performances are just awful and maddening these days. Those shows last year had me so upset and sad for her. I also hate how she waits until October to publicize the shows. Why not tell us in July or August so that people can get their coins and travel set ahead of time? It's inconsiderate considering that the shows are in the midst of 2 holidays. I had to ask myself could I justify paying up to $1,000 for a front row seat (I'm too old of a lamb to sit in the back) just to hear her sing flat, and lipsynch the same old songs in the same old arrangement? Yet... a part of me still longs to go just for the merch and the chance to be seen by her. (Monday 16 October 2023; 05:18)

What is wrong with Mariah? (103,775) by Bobby A from United States Libra, we all are truly concerned about MC's career. Retirement will save her legacy. If she continues down this path of poor performances, YouTube viewers and music critics are not going to be nice anymore. She should stop performing live until her vocal issues are resolved. I would rather have The Rarities release #2-5 for the next 5 years than for MC to continue performing live and sounding a hot mess. I just wish Kuk Harrell or Mervyn Warren or Donald Lawrence were around in the 90s as her vocal coach producing her vocals. They would have told her no to the way she sung in that breathiness tone from 1995-1999 and to stop the whistle notes. If only Tommy made MC have a vocal coach during those early years, we might not be cringing in our seats now with every live performance. (Tuesday 17 October 2023; 01:04) this is a reply to message 103,769

What is wrong with Mariah? (103,769) by Anonymous from USA Negativity is contagious as heck. And for all those saying MC should retire, maybe you should take your own advice and retire from here and from MC and go live your happy lives, because you come across bitter and annoying. (Monday 16 October 2023; 16:16)

Einstein is a No No (103,774) by Edward from USA Same sentiment here. E=MC2 is just fine. (Monday 16 October 2023; 18:19) this is a reply to message 103,771

Einstein is a No No (103,771) by Andrew from the UK I beg you all, stop calling that fantastic record "Einstein". It's neither cute nor funny. E=MC2 was, and is, a great title for a record. Mariah Carey's Einstein? No. Parlez vous francais? I said no. Lemme translate it: I said no. I can say it en español: no. Portuguese? Boy, you know. Japanese? Boy, you know. I said it: I said no. I said it: I said no. (Monday 16 October 2023; 16:27)

Torn (103,773) by Andrew from the UK Respect, but I disagree. I can forgive Mariah's lipsyncing and awkward transitions from live to pre-record and the flat notes - if it's a normal show. The Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour was the most fun I've ever had at a concert. But in the Christmas show in London's O2, the smoke and mirrors was very apparent because the show was so slow and the songs not fan-favourites, per se. You're right: watching Mariah in an arena is the Mariah Carey show - once you're there you sing, you dance, you laugh, you cry, for your favourite Mariah songs are so indelibly loud and everyone is partying. The Christmas shows are ballad heavy and all the mirrors and smoke in the Universe can't hide certain truths. Sweet Sweet Fantasy was amazing. Best night ever. (Monday 16 October 2023; 17:14) this is a reply to message 103,768

Torn (103,768) by Chicago Lamb from USA Just go and enjoy the show, however you don't need to spend $1000 for front row. The seats up and off to the side offer better views with less expense. Once you're there, you'll barely care about the whatever she may or may not mime. It's the "Mariah Carey" show so have a great time. (Monday 16 October 2023; 12:44)

Torn (103,772) by Andrew from the UK It's great your posting after such a long time: but, bro, if you spend $1000 on a front row seat to the greatest shit show on Earth, you need your head examined. It baffles me that Mariah knows she cannot sing in tune, or produce a decent vocal right now and she's taking people's money. 'Tis rather audacious. Given that she was possibly the first person to put "YouTube" into a lyric, she must actually watch the videos on it, right? $1000? Go on vacation, see the world, enjoy the fruits of the Earth, feel as alive as when you were young and the world was anew. Do not waste it watching someone be delusional. Besides, if it's delusion you need, you can come here for free and read Terna's posts. And I invite you into his head with me. Rent's free, and it's very spacious, indeed. I'm thinking of installing a water feature. (Monday 16 October 2023; 16:42) this is a reply to message 103,764

Torn (103,764) by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States Wow, I haven't posted here in years. I see some familiar faces still live here. Is anyone else torn on whether or not to go see Mariah in this upcoming run of shows? On the one hand, I want to see her because I've been a lamb for 25 years. With so many stars dying, there is always a scary thought of what if this is your last chance in the back on my head. On the other hand, her performances are just awful and maddening these days. Those shows last year had me so upset and sad for her. I also hate how she waits until October to publicize the shows. Why not tell us in July or August so that people can get their coins and travel set ahead of time? It's inconsiderate considering that the shows are in the midst of 2 holidays. I had to ask myself could I justify paying up to $1,000 for a front row seat (I'm too old of a lamb to sit in the back) just to hear her sing flat, and lipsynch the same old songs in the same old arrangement? Yet... a part of me still longs to go just for the merch and the chance to be seen by her. (Monday 16 October 2023; 05:18)

Einstein is a No No (103,771) by Andrew from the UK I beg you all, stop calling that fantastic record "Einstein". It's neither cute nor funny. E=MC2 was, and is, a great title for a record. Mariah Carey's Einstein? No. Parlez vous francais? I said no. Lemme translate it: I said no. I can say it en español: no. Portuguese? Boy, you know. Japanese? Boy, you know. I said it: I said no. I said it: I said no. (Monday 16 October 2023; 16:27)

The Art of Letting Go (103,770) by Tevin from USA Bill, you're hired. We have to inform Mariah about the management change. (Monday 16 October 2023; 16:19) this is a reply to message 103,758

The Art of Letting Go (103,758) by Bill from the UK I'm sure I'm not alone in having an impending sense of dread, rather than excitement, about the upcoming Christmas concerts. At this point we know the drill. 95% lipped performances with the occasional "eh" barked out, peppered with a couple of verses being "spoken melodically" for good measure. The focus will be on the hair, make up, breasts, and shimmering gown or, heaven forbid, a return to those hideous leotards. YouTube will be littered with comments from the delusionals saying it's live, she has a cold, she has nothing to prove, she's preserving her voice etc. That last one always gets me lol. What on earth is she preserving her voice for, if not when performing live in concert? I mean, she's been preserving her voice since 1997. It's preserved for heaven's sake. My advice as Mariah's manager? Cancel the concerts, retire gracefully, and focus on re-releasing back catalogue specials. Start with The Rarities II You (I Lose Control, We're Not Making Love Anymore, There for Me, and Randy's Theme all should have been represented on the original), find and release your infamous demo tape so we can experience what Tommy did in the limo that fateful night, HD the crap out of the Music Box, Daydream (especially London, which I attended), Butterfly, Rainbow and Charmbracelet Tour footage, and please, seek permission from the estate of Prince to release your Glitter-era duet. Stagger that out over the next few years with "30" releases of the studio albums as their anniversaries hit and everyone will forget about the dreadful performances of the last 10-15 years which are now greatly outweighing the good. (Sunday 15 October 2023; 10:01)

What is wrong with Mariah? (103,769) by Anonymous from USA Negativity is contagious as heck. And for all those saying MC should retire, maybe you should take your own advice and retire from here and from MC and go live your happy lives, because you come across bitter and annoying. (Monday 16 October 2023; 16:16) this is a reply to message 103,751

What is wrong with Mariah? (103,751) by Bobby A from United States Andy, since you have been back something has come over me. Reading your posts have really gotten me think more like you. It's been like honey for my intellect thinking more like you. We should Zoom one Saturday at 7pm your time 3pm my time. I would love to meet you. I hope my deep southern U.S. accent doesn't scare you away. Lol. (Saturday 14 October 2023; 23:27)

Torn (103,768) by Chicago Lamb from USA Just go and enjoy the show, however you don't need to spend $1000 for front row. The seats up and off to the side offer better views with less expense. Once you're there, you'll barely care about the whatever she may or may not mime. It's the "Mariah Carey" show so have a great time. (Monday 16 October 2023; 12:44) this is a reply to message 103,764

Torn (103,764) by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States Wow, I haven't posted here in years. I see some familiar faces still live here. Is anyone else torn on whether or not to go see Mariah in this upcoming run of shows? On the one hand, I want to see her because I've been a lamb for 25 years. With so many stars dying, there is always a scary thought of what if this is your last chance in the back on my head. On the other hand, her performances are just awful and maddening these days. Those shows last year had me so upset and sad for her. I also hate how she waits until October to publicize the shows. Why not tell us in July or August so that people can get their coins and travel set ahead of time? It's inconsiderate considering that the shows are in the midst of 2 holidays. I had to ask myself could I justify paying up to $1,000 for a front row seat (I'm too old of a lamb to sit in the back) just to hear her sing flat, and lipsynch the same old songs in the same old arrangement? Yet... a part of me still longs to go just for the merch and the chance to be seen by her. (Monday 16 October 2023; 05:18)

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