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Macy's performance (101,679) by Bobby A from United States
We all would like to know what really ruined MC's voice. It just seems like after Glitter, her voice started deteriorating with every album especially TEOM. I think it was all heavy belting during her tours from 1993-1996. MC wanting to be a perfectionist and the need to prove herself to others caused major damage to her voice. Then during the recording of the Butterfly album, we got the breathiness singing that we never got before. Her voice was beyond repair as evident on Memoirs and MIAM. It is going to be interested how much she uses a backing track and lip syncs during the Merry Christmas To All concert dates. Maybe MC will prove us all wrong starting December 13th.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 21:34)
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Macy's performance (101,678) by BFF from United States
Bill, she's on "vocal rest" in preparation for the pre-recording of tracks to lip sync to for her "Merry Christmas to All" shows. You're being so unfair.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 21:25)
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Macy's performance (101,677) by Bill from the UK
I know, I am truly so grateful I saw her during her indisputable best. It was one of the best nights of my life. Mariah was at her peak, as were her vocals, her music, her looks, her confidence, and my love for her.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 20:15)
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Macy's performance (101,676) by MusicfanJ from Germany
"Thank God I saw her in 1996 on the Daydream tour when she was actually a competent and capable singer." That time was simlpy magic on stage. Almost unreal. There's a reason 95 and 96 was Mariah mania around the world. I remember she had one concert in Germany, it was immediately sold out. If I had a time machine, I would choose that date to be part of the audience. You are really lucky to have witnessed her live during her Daydream tour.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 19:03)
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Macy's parade (101,675) by Brad from USA
To me, the really weird thing was the CBS coverage. They showed no performers, not even Mariah who is to have a special on their station next month. Also, not for nothing, when Gloria Estefan had her number, the music and lyrics were going and she wasn't even freaking moving her mouth at all in any way, shape or form. I'm not sure I would have been moving around too much in such a dress on a moving platform. Just saying. I thought the exuberance in her face was nice to see. Everyone knows these things are lip synced. For all performers. And no, she wasn't making millions at this performance. Nope.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 17:07)
Macy's performance (101,674) by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago
So what you're basically saying is, for just 4 minutes out of a 3 hour production, they need to get a sound engineer and mixer, have a live band (because a pre-recorded musical track just would add legitimacy) and all the other logistics that goes into a truly live performance. Especially when every other single performance is lip-sync, even the Macy's choir? I'm not saying she would have killed it if it were live, but at least be fair and just when throwing out all of these statements.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 15:58)
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Macy's performance (101,673) by Bill from the UK
Who'd have thought MC would lip sync. Colour me stunned. You're looking at $150-200 for one ticket to the Christmas concert. Plus travel and hotel if you're not based in New York. If you want to pay that much to watch her lip sync, get her hair and make up fixed on stage, bemoan the lighting, stick a finger in her ear, ramble on about her ensemble, drink champagne, and bark out an off key "EH" every so often, that's your prerogative.

Thank God I saw her in 1996 on the Daydream tour when she was actually a competent and capable singer.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 15:19)
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Macy's performance (101,672) by BFF from United States
Randy, I have no idea what you're talking about. Mariah lip syncs? That absolutely never happens. She's just performing the "album version" like she did with "We Belong Together" on NYE 2016. I thought everyone loved the album version? Why would you ever expect Mariah to sing live any way? The cold outdoor air hurts her vocal cords and she can't hear herself with the crowds. As a medical expert in the field of vocal chord trauma, I recommend that Mariah complete all performances from home via Zoom call in a room full of humidifiers with a full team of sound engineers. We must also allow for 30 minute breaks every two songs for tea, makeup and wardrobe changes.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 13:57)
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Angry elfs (101,671) by Knoellexo from United States
For sure.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 13:38)
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Macy's performance (101,670) by Mariahsbaby from usa
1. Nobody sang live on the parade.
2. Patti is 78 years old, why should we care for the other written lies.
3. Yes, many of us will attend the Christmas "outsold" shows and per usual you can hate from outside the club.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 12:07)
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Macy's performance (101,669) by Randy from USA
Can I just say this. Janet Jackson, Britney Spears, Ciara, JLo, Paula Abdul can lip sync without criticism. Mariah Carey who is considered one of the best vocalist of all time cannot. Patti Labelle is 99 years old. She woulda sang. I know. I know. It was outdoors, her ear monitors weren't working, it was air conditioning outside, she has nodules, her humidifiers weren't working in her sleep chamber, her background singers were too loud. The funny thing is... her lip syncing wasn't a surprise to me. The mic is a prop at this point. But y'all really excited about her Christmas concerts? It will be the best cut and paste lip sync performance in history. Kinda like the 1996 Grammys.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 04:21)
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QOC (101,668) by Mariahsbaby from usa
Thank you so much for that beautifully written post Nikki, it was due to Lotion LLC's failure to respond to the objection in time, she is still undeniably The Queen of Christmas. Source.
(Friday 25 November 2022; 00:37)
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Macy's performance (101,667) by Bobby A from United States
I thought it was a great performance. MC looked glamorous. Kristofer did her make-up so beautifully. She doesn't always need to sing live during an outside performance. My sister said the ending note was live though. Roc and Roe have really grown up. Happy Thanksgiving MCA family.
(Thursday 24 November 2022; 20:38)
QOC (101,666) by Bill from the UK
As always, state your sources.
(Thursday 24 November 2022; 14:36)
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Chart question (101,665) by Nikki from usa
What's interesting about that is all 3 hit the top for very different reasons. Fantasy hit because of a radio leak. Mariah mania was in full swing and people were crazy for new music from her. The leak was legit because they had to rush everything. The album is the same pic in black and white, sepia, and a close up crop of her face for the cover. They had to rush the music video and release. The song also covered multiple formats making it a shoo in.

OSD was massively promoted by the label because Boyz 2 Men had just switched to them and it was their first single with the label. A lot of tragedy had happened that year with a freak storm and a terrorist attack that killed a lot of people. The nation was in mourning and then Selena was murdered.

Mariah created buzz for Honey. She released the music video to late night MTV a month before officially debuting it. When she did, it made it to the top of the video charts before she released it to radio. By then, they were greedy for the song that caused such a commotion on music channels.
(Thursday 24 November 2022; 06:11)
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QOC (101,664) by Nikki from usa
It would be nice if people who talked actually had a clue what they were talking about. Trademarks are for products and goods, not censorship. Literally, nothing would change on how anyone used the phrase. None of these women's lives would've changed. Everything would continue as it always has. Mariah didn't "lose" anything, in fact, she generously stepped aside. The objection wasn't qualifying. All Mariah had to do was respond and the trademark was hers. She chose to remain quiet. After the 3 month period lapsed the case is closed. Mariah literally gave up a name for a merch line for no other reason than someone had a problem with it and she's painted as a villain while her quote unquote fans talk about checking her morals.

A trademark isn't a copyright. Some folks deserve some humble pie themselves. I find it interesting how many hear MC get dissed by ignorant haters and immediately take their side without question. Trademarks are for products only. It doesn't give her a "monopoly" on the holiday season. It's a product line. It doesn't change how anyone uses the expression. It only prevents others from selling other products under the phrase. It's not that deep or encompassing.

There is no current trademark on any of these things which gives Carey the right to use it. All she had to do was respond. She actually stepped aside and let the 3 month time limit lapse. She didn't "lose", there was no "battle", and she was denied for simply not bothering to respond. She let it go and she didn't have to. She's literally been called, "the Queen of Christmas" by every publication and it's uncle for the past decade. These ignorant stories do make her look bad and many of you pile on top. MC did something kind and you helped paint her as a villain.
(Thursday 24 November 2022; 05:27)
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Debut album (101,663) by Terna from Nigeria
I would rather prefer the other recordings that did not make the cut, we as fans are aware of ("Weakness of the Body", "Into The Light" etc. recall that tracklist that floated around in 2015?) in addition to a remastered version of the debut album. Her first album still remains one of her best and easily a top three personal favorite of mine.
(Wednesday 23 November 2022; 11:14)
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Angry elfs (101,662) by Lady B from USA
Want to meet up before?
(Wednesday 23 November 2022; 05:38)
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ABMB crossing 300m YT views (101,661) by jaker20 from US
Another certified classic smash for Miss Carey.
(Wednesday 23 November 2022; 03:30)
Angry elfs (101,660) by Knoellexo from United States
I will be at the show on the 16th.
(Tuesday 22 November 2022; 21:29)
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Angry elfs (101,659) by Bobby A from United States
This reminds me of how you feel Lady B. MC said we have so called haters and we give this positivity. Where is Cindi Berger now? She was really good at speaking for MC.
(Tuesday 22 November 2022; 13:45)
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Angry elfs (101,658) by Lady B from USA
Some of you are angry elves. Me? I'll be at the Macy Parade and her MSG show on the 16th watching her prosper and enjoying being a fan. Anyone want to meet up and keep it positive?
(Tuesday 22 November 2022; 04:57)
QOC (101,657) by Knoellexo from United States
And that's on period.
(Tuesday 22 November 2022; 03:46)
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QOC (101,656) by Chicago Lamb from USA
This is the business of showbiz. If you love Mariah then you want her to make an impact with every release, promo, merchandise, every opportunity. She signed up for it, and we signed up for it. So let's not start checking Mariah's "morals" in the name of entertainment. Here's to another #1 and a sold-out Christmas tour.
(Monday 21 November 2022; 14:27)
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QOC (101,655) by "MariahHater" from Hell
Making Christmas as a money hog. I get but please review thy morals. Everybody needs money but not to the extent of monetizing the season. Is AIWFCIY not enough earning for her? It's so sad that she keeps on running her mouth that she embodies the true spirit of Christmas but I guess it's a different spirit after all.
(Monday 21 November 2022; 07:52)
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