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Legacy (102,608) by Jamie from UK I think we take Mariah's legacy for granted. Yes AIWFCIY is one of her huge songs, but it also belongs to a main focal season each year. People still love her classic songs, Hero, Without You, Always Be My Baby, Vision of Love, Emotions, I'll Be There, We Belong Together, need I go on. The problem now is she isn't relevant in mainstream culture but that doesn't mean people don't like her or remember what great songs she has. There was a time when she was at number 1 in albums, singles and home video all at the same time. And like every singer their mainstream time comes and goes, it's just the way of the music world, one thing I can guarantee we would be having this conversation about other singers. Even Whitney wasn't mainstream anymore but everyone remembers how great she was and all her great songs. God forbid Mariah would die tomorrow she would be celebrated for the quality music she brought more so to the 90's and also into 20's. A singer can continue making music for their fan base but they will never reach the heights of their "mainstream" time. (Saturday 22 April 2023; 13:51) this is a reply to message 102,605

Legacy (102,605) by Randy from USA One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts? (Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)

Legacy (102,607) by Bill from the UK I even question how good the whistle register is these days. She hasn't done a live whistle in maybe, what, 10 years? The worst thing is how it birthed a bunch of awful "singers" on YouTube who think by screeching and sticking a finger in their ear that they are able to effectively use that register. The finger-in-the-ear gimmick is just that, a gimmick. In live performances from 1990-1992, she only occasionally did it, and it was usually when she was pitchy (which makes sense). But then she started to dub and lip sync her performances from 1996ish, so now it's all theatrics to mask the fact she's obviously lip syncing them. The yaas queens also make those stupid videos on YouTube with a heading like "Mariah Carey Can't Sing" and then try to disprove it by showcasing lipped performances as apparently live, or flashing up a "G5" for a nano-second as she barks out a note. When Mariah retires/is no longer with us, those videos will be overshadowing performances like "If It's Over" and her perfect 1990-1995 run. As much as I think AIWFCIY is the best thing she's ever done, I also agree that she's more than just that. Will she become another Bing Crosby? I can't even think of a single song he's done other than "White Christmas", though he's probably released about 30 albums. I heard "Vision of Love" on the radio when I was driving the other day and almost mounted the curb in my state of disbelief. Firstly because the only song other than AIWFCIY to get played on UK mainstream radio is "Hero" and maybe "I'll Be There". But it was incredible to hear it live on the radio. It sounded beautiful as the radio adds that certain brightness and magic to songs. I don't think I've even answered your question, but there we go. (Saturday 22 April 2023; 13:29) this is a reply to message 102,605

Legacy (102,605) by Randy from USA One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts? (Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)

Legacy (102,606) by Bobby A from United States Preach Randy. I don't think about AIWFCIY until Mimi says it's time after Halloween. (Saturday 22 April 2023; 11:16) this is a reply to message 102,605

Legacy (102,605) by Randy from USA One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts? (Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)

Legacy (102,605) by Randy from USA One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts? (Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,604) by Edward from USA I disagree. Marian has had a dwindling fanbase for a long time now. Disappearing for huge periods of time at this stage in her career isn't doing her any service. When I say "disappearing", I mean going many years without releasing any new music. (Friday 21 April 2023; 21:49) this is a reply to message 102,603

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,603) by Jamie from UK I disagree, if you're a fan you always have existing albums to listen to, Mariah disappearing for a while isn't gonna change her commercial success at this stage of her career. She's never gonna reach the highs of her earlier career at this point, I'd rather her take her time and do something quality than rush something out. For all we know she might be getting advice to take a new direction in her career, she might be trying to get herself in better shape mentally and physically to appeal to more of a wider audience now she's older. Maybe she's realised she's been erratic at times and has lost touch with the general public. Or maybe she's in a deep depression over her voice not working the way it once did. We will never know what's truly going on with her, and she's in a position where she can do as she pleases, she has nothing to prove anymore. Rest assured though people like Mariah will never just disappear, she has her legacy already she's done extremely well to continue to be in the public eye at this point. Cut the girl some slack she's already given us more than some artists do in their entire career. God bless Mariah and hope all is well with her. (Friday 21 April 2023; 20:16)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,603) by Jamie from UK I disagree, if you're a fan you always have existing albums to listen to, Mariah disappearing for a while isn't gonna change her commercial success at this stage of her career. She's never gonna reach the highs of her earlier career at this point, I'd rather her take her time and do something quality than rush something out. For all we know she might be getting advice to take a new direction in her career, she might be trying to get herself in better shape mentally and physically to appeal to more of a wider audience now she's older. Maybe she's realised she's been erratic at times and has lost touch with the general public. Or maybe she's in a deep depression over her voice not working the way it once did. We will never know what's truly going on with her, and she's in a position where she can do as she pleases, she has nothing to prove anymore. Rest assured though people like Mariah will never just disappear, she has her legacy already she's done extremely well to continue to be in the public eye at this point. Cut the girl some slack she's already given us more than some artists do in their entire career. God bless Mariah and hope all is well with her. (Friday 21 April 2023; 20:16) this is a reply to message 102,598

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,598) by Edward from USA Things are not as difficult as they used to be. Technology has made it possible to have so many tools at our disposal, we can create great music and videos without having to drain our pockets dry. There are movies filmed with cellphones that you would believe were filmed with the best equipment. Physical CD's are almost a thing of past, so Mariah can go independent, release her music online, and bundled her albums with the price of concert tickets like many artists do nowadays. What she doesn't realize is that with people having the attention span of a goldfish, disappearing for long periods of time without any new music to keep her hardcore fan base entertained is not good. Why no release The Rarities 2 and then a new album next year? (Friday 21 April 2023; 03:49)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,602) by Bobby A from United States Not that I am giving up on MC and will always be a fan, but I have been thinking what other artist can I build up a huge music collection. I just haven't found one definitive artist yet. I thought it was going to be Dua Lipa, but she is too pop for me. I guess I'm leaning more towards Kelky Clarkson [sic] since I have everything that she has released. There is something about the realness in her voice that makes me get into every song on her album. I love her new songs Mine and Me. To conclude, MC will always be my #1 artist, but I am missing new music and being able to open up the insert and read the credits and lyrics. What a treat it was see if her name was before or after the main producer or to see who she collaborated with or who did the background vocals. Maybe she will surprise us in 2024. Half of 24 is 12 and 12 is her lucky number. Lol. Bye bye. (Friday 21 April 2023; 20:13) this is a reply to message 102,601

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,601) by Edward from USA Remember that record labels as we knew them don't exist anymore. Recording an album might be more expensive than the revenue they would get from it, especially from a legacy artist like Mariah. I think she should go independent at this point. (Friday 21 April 2023; 16:58)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,601) by Edward from USA Remember that record labels as we knew them don't exist anymore. Recording an album might be more expensive than the revenue they would get from it, especially from a legacy artist like Mariah. I think she should go independent at this point. (Friday 21 April 2023; 16:58) this is a reply to message 102,596

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,596) by Bobby A from United States Apparently, record labels don't think so either. Who would have thought that Mariah Carey would be without record label? Something ain't right with that picture. Where did MC go wrong from 2015- 2019? I don't think that she ever makes the Hot 100 top 10 ever again. (Friday 21 April 2023; 02:05)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,600) by Zachariah from Croatia She has [a top] 10 song every year, even a number one. All I want for Christmas is you. Hello? (Friday 21 April 2023; 15:52) this is a reply to message 102,596

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,596) by Bobby A from United States Apparently, record labels don't think so either. Who would have thought that Mariah Carey would be without record label? Something ain't right with that picture. Where did MC go wrong from 2015- 2019? I don't think that she ever makes the Hot 100 top 10 ever again. (Friday 21 April 2023; 02:05)

Mariah's Twitter (102,599) by "MariahHater" from Hell Uhmmm. Unverified and some cryptic tweets. Check it y'all. (Friday 21 April 2023; 05:28)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,598) by Edward from USA Things are not as difficult as they used to be. Technology has made it possible to have so many tools at our disposal, we can create great music and videos without having to drain our pockets dry. There are movies filmed with cellphones that you would believe were filmed with the best equipment. Physical CD's are almost a thing of past, so Mariah can go independent, release her music online, and bundled her albums with the price of concert tickets like many artists do nowadays. What she doesn't realize is that with people having the attention span of a goldfish, disappearing for long periods of time without any new music to keep her hardcore fan base entertained is not good. Why no release The Rarities 2 and then a new album next year? (Friday 21 April 2023; 03:49) this is a reply to message 102,595

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,595) by Randy from USA I do agree that MC is going to lose fans if she doesn't release an album soon, however, I don't know if releasing a studio album is profitable for her anymore. I'm noticing that Cardi B hasn't released her second album. Many other acts wait a long time between albums. We got spoiled by the 90s. Maybe MC could give as an EP or a maxi-single with different versions like I Still Believe or My All/Stay Awhile. It would have to be a killer single though not an Infinity or I Don't. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 23:43)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,597) by T from USA I think at one point Mariah questioned if she should release these niche projects (like the duets, inspirational Butterfly Lounge) or if she should start working on an actual new commercial studio album. Maybe she changed gears and is starting to write MC16. Or maybe like many speculate she has lost her voice and is not doing anything music wise anymore. I actually wouldn't mind if she ended on the high that was Caution. Too bad more people didn't buy/stream it. Then again, if they didn't buy her in 2018 what makes us think the would in 2023? If Caution is the last full album at least I'm grateful that it was quality. (Friday 21 April 2023; 02:48) this is a reply to message 102,595

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,595) by Randy from USA I do agree that MC is going to lose fans if she doesn't release an album soon, however, I don't know if releasing a studio album is profitable for her anymore. I'm noticing that Cardi B hasn't released her second album. Many other acts wait a long time between albums. We got spoiled by the 90s. Maybe MC could give as an EP or a maxi-single with different versions like I Still Believe or My All/Stay Awhile. It would have to be a killer single though not an Infinity or I Don't. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 23:43)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,596) by Bobby A from United States Apparently, record labels don't think so either. Who would have thought that Mariah Carey would be without record label? Something ain't right with that picture. Where did MC go wrong from 2015- 2019? I don't think that she ever makes the Hot 100 top 10 ever again. (Friday 21 April 2023; 02:05) this is a reply to message 102,595

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,595) by Randy from USA I do agree that MC is going to lose fans if she doesn't release an album soon, however, I don't know if releasing a studio album is profitable for her anymore. I'm noticing that Cardi B hasn't released her second album. Many other acts wait a long time between albums. We got spoiled by the 90s. Maybe MC could give as an EP or a maxi-single with different versions like I Still Believe or My All/Stay Awhile. It would have to be a killer single though not an Infinity or I Don't. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 23:43)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,595) by Randy from USA I do agree that MC is going to lose fans if she doesn't release an album soon, however, I don't know if releasing a studio album is profitable for her anymore. I'm noticing that Cardi B hasn't released her second album. Many other acts wait a long time between albums. We got spoiled by the 90s. Maybe MC could give as an EP or a maxi-single with different versions like I Still Believe or My All/Stay Awhile. It would have to be a killer single though not an Infinity or I Don't. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 23:43)

No new album in 2023 (102,594) by Edward from USA How dare you? Mariah is at home breastfeeding, bonding with her little twins and frolicking with Tanaka. She can release her next project in 2026 when the twins are ready to enter kindergarden. Believe me when I tell you that we, her three remaining fans, will be here waiting. I'll purchase two copies. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 18:22) this is a reply to message 102,593

No new album in 2023 (102,593) by Libra Lamb from USA Just perfect. Now she's alienating the last few people who follow her faithfully that are hoping for a solid project or album. I may not move on, but I'm losing my excitement for MC. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 06:04)

No new album in 2023 (102,593) by Libra Lamb from USA Just perfect. Now she's alienating the last few people who follow her faithfully that are hoping for a solid project or album. I may not move on, but I'm losing my excitement for MC. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 06:04) this is a reply to message 102,589

No new album in 2023 (102,589) by T from USA It's been all but confirmed by some Mariah insiders on Twitter that she does not have the rumored projects coming this year that everyone thought. Not even the Butterfly Lounge. That leaves us waiting until next year, however seeing how 2024 is the 30th Anniversary of "Merry Christmas" I'm sure that will be the priority next year. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 00:02)

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,592) by BFF from United States Yes to all of this. And Trey Lorenz, Patrick McMillan, and the other guys backing her up during live performances were phenomenal. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 03:03) this is a reply to message 102,586

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,586) by Jamie from UK Emotions album is one of my favourites, it oozes soul, her voice is so warm and the ballads are perfect. Till the End of Time is a masterpiece, it's beautiful. And one of my all time favourite songs is Can't Let Go. The video portrays a classy Mariah, something about her in that video is different she shows so much passion. Her image was so refined during this album wholesome, relatable and appealing. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 21:19)

Anytime You Need a Friend - Extended (102,591) by BFF from United States What crazy person decided to leave out the extended fadeout on this song? The vocals at the end are absolutely sublime and should have been included on the final studio version. Mariah totally goes off, and I'm here for it. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 02:39)

No new album in 2023 (102,590) by Bobby A from United States Really? What is going on with Mimi? She can't even do her studio magic anymore. Her voice will never be the same. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 00:20) this is a reply to message 102,589

No new album in 2023 (102,589) by T from USA It's been all but confirmed by some Mariah insiders on Twitter that she does not have the rumored projects coming this year that everyone thought. Not even the Butterfly Lounge. That leaves us waiting until next year, however seeing how 2024 is the 30th Anniversary of "Merry Christmas" I'm sure that will be the priority next year. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 00:02)

No new album in 2023 (102,589) by T from USA It's been all but confirmed by some Mariah insiders on Twitter that she does not have the rumored projects coming this year that everyone thought. Not even the Butterfly Lounge. That leaves us waiting until next year, however seeing how 2024 is the 30th Anniversary of "Merry Christmas" I'm sure that will be the priority next year. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 00:02)

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,588) by MusicfanJ from Germany The video of "Can't let go" is pure art. The black and white, so classy. She looks like a Hollywood star, I mean that positive. (Old classy Hollywood.) So sensual indeed just like the song. A masterpiece. I love it too and always will. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 22:53) this is a reply to message 102,586

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,586) by Jamie from UK Emotions album is one of my favourites, it oozes soul, her voice is so warm and the ballads are perfect. Till the End of Time is a masterpiece, it's beautiful. And one of my all time favourite songs is Can't Let Go. The video portrays a classy Mariah, something about her in that video is different she shows so much passion. Her image was so refined during this album wholesome, relatable and appealing. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 21:19)

Female singers (102,587) by MusicfanJ from Germany "Make music that mirror their life", yes absolutely. That's what I'm missing too. It's good to get older and wiser and the music should show it. Not trying to be 20. Mariah's 90ies albums had the best melodies and I love the lyrics. Funny the sound was more for grown-ups than on the last two albums. I would still love a Jazz album by Mariah. Or back to her "roots" classic Mariah Carey with a real band/musicians. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 22:45) this is a reply to message 102,584

Female singers (102,584) by TJ from Norway I know that show business is harder for women, but the reason I like Sting and many other male singers is the fact that they have not tried to compete with the younger generations. I love Mariah, I love Madonna and many more, but why don't they make music that mirror their life, and their age. I'm getting older too, and younger artists like Adele feels more my age. I love Mariah, specially 1990 to 1997. Drop the lazy RnB. Make melodies. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 20:05)

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,586) by Jamie from UK Emotions album is one of my favourites, it oozes soul, her voice is so warm and the ballads are perfect. Till the End of Time is a masterpiece, it's beautiful. And one of my all time favourite songs is Can't Let Go. The video portrays a classy Mariah, something about her in that video is different she shows so much passion. Her image was so refined during this album wholesome, relatable and appealing. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 21:19) this is a reply to message 102,562

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,562) by BFF from United States I find myself looking back on this album/era regretting that it hasn't been properly appreciated by fans and critics alike. I consider it Mariah's most "adult" album and my second favorite behind "Butterfly". Songs like "Can't Let Go", "If It's Over", Make It Happen", "So Blessed" and others sound and feel like they were recorded/written by someone much older than early 20s. Having C+C Music Factory alongside Walter Afanasieff really helped her strike a "just right" balance of soul, pop, gospel, and house. It was also unique in the sense that she was not yet married to Tommy but had full control over the creative direction of the album. It makes me wonder what her trajectory would have been if she hadn't decided to marry Tommy. Don't get me wrong, I love "Music Box" and "Daydream", but "Emotions" really tops both of those records in terms of writing, vocals, and production. She seemed much happier in the "Emotions" period and not very happy during the 1993-1996 period. It's such a unique moment in her catalog and career. (Sunday 16 April 2023; 02:19)

Mine (102,585) by Bobby A from United States Ditto. In order to do it, MC has to forget about aiming for a #1 hit. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 21:10) this is a reply to message 102,583

Mine (102,583) by Tevin from USA I live this new song by Kelly Clarkson. I would love it if Mariah would create a song like this. Powerful vocals yet easier to sing. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 17:06)

Female singers (102,584) by TJ from Norway I know that show business is harder for women, but the reason I like Sting and many other male singers is the fact that they have not tried to compete with the younger generations. I love Mariah, I love Madonna and many more, but why don't they make music that mirror their life, and their age. I'm getting older too, and younger artists like Adele feels more my age. I love Mariah, specially 1990 to 1997. Drop the lazy RnB. Make melodies. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 20:05) this is a reply to message 102,571

Female singers (102,571) by MusicfanJ from Germany Well, I think there's nothing harder for women than showbusiness. And I wonder if it will ever change? Look at the Stones, Elton John, Sting, Bryan Adams. Nobody cares how old they are, for women it should be the same. But it's not. Tina Turner, Gladys Knight and Cher are really the coolest who showed how wrong the media and record companies are. But they are sadly rare indeed. Music should never be about age or anything. It's so dumb. A voice, talent is the only thing that is needed. Something that is totally missed by most of today's "artists". (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 11:22)

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