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Re: Firecracker vs. Cameo version (96,398) (96,399) by Stacey from USA Well said. Discussion over, lol. (Thursday 22 October 2020; 05:05)

Firecracker vs. Cameo version (96,398) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Personally I feel like both versions of Loverboy. The original Firecracker version would have worked in the movie as well as on the soundtrack to fit the pop 80's feel. The Cameo was a genius move after all the controversy. The final product was also a great song, and fit like a glove on urban radio. Pay homage to 80's R&B. In my opinion both versions serve a great purpose. Also kudos to MC for being a masterful creative genius for being able to make two great versions of a great song. I can appreciate both versions for what they are because they both fit the project very well. However the Firecracker version is fun pop side of MC. The Cameo is the hip-pop side of MC. I would say listen to the version that you like the best. (Thursday 22 October 2020; 00:16)

Re: Firecracker vs. Cameo Loverboy (96,395) (96,397) by Anonymous from USA I like both versions of the song but I prefer the Cameo version. It has been one of my favorite singles from Mariah since 2001. The Firecracker version is good too because it’s very catchy but I like it less than than Cameo version, sounds a little disjointed, sorry about it. Overall Glitter is some of her best work and where she had lots of creative freedom, even the songs that were straight out of the 80s she found a way to make them her own. All My Life and If We are my favorites along with Loverboy. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 23:48)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,393) (96,396) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Me too Stacey. Yes maybe her vocals sound stronger on the Firecracker one, and I do like that it is playful. However for me it also sounds very busy musically. Gasp. I guess we are sinners. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 23:33)

Re: Firecracker vs. Cameo Loverboy (96,379) (96,395) by Stacey from USA Not always true, lol. I prefer her pop stuff on most days, but love the Cameo version much more than the Firecracker one. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 22:47)

Re: Loverboy versus (96,386) (96,394) by Stacey from USA I prefer the Cameo version, but you're right; it amazes me how after she learned of J-Lo swiping the sample, she can come up a redo that many love as well in such a quick amount of time. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 22:45)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,384) (96,393) by Stacey from USA I prefer the Cameo version. Not because of nostalgia like some have suggested. To me the Firecracker sample sounds out of place. The sample is in one key and the vocals, music arrangement in another. It doesn't fit. But, that's just my opinion. If people like it, I'm happy for them. I prefer the heavier base arrangement from Candy. Listen to whatever version makes you happy. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 22:43)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,389) (96,392) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Oh Eddie. Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. I was quoting some lines to Toddlicious that he has himself sung before. But I won't sell him out and post the links. I shall simply say this: he is one of our most talented colonists. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 22:08)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,388) (96,391) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Oh, of course she said she preferred the Cameo version lmao she's Mariah Carey: she will say whatever is advantageous to her at the time. How many examples can you think of? Let us take a recent one. STD starts to tank and Mariah quickly films a video of her posing, lying down, listening to it, commenting that of all her songs she's never listened to one of them as much as VD. Right. Her career is a constructed act. And whomsoever doesn't know and accept that by now frankly doesn't know Mariah at all. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 22:05)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,388) (96,390) by RibbonB from USA You do know tastes, attitudes or mindsets can change over time. I love some songs or even artists now, that I didn't appreciate when I was younger, or for various other reasons. I even hated Hero years ago, but enjoy listening to it occasionally now. Sure Mimi ommitted lots of stuff, there's only so many pages, but I think she was truthful about all that she said, she is careful and rightly so after all the attacks, lawsuits etc, that she has been hit with in her life and career. From recent Stella settlement, to her assistant lawsuit which is still pending, to her own lawsuit of James for wasting her time, or ruining her stunt. That "error" is a book unto itself. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 20:32)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,375) (96,389) by Edward from USA Your lips can't be sealed when you're drooling over someone, that's gay-101, you should know better, B told me so and Robert-Anthony confirmed it. Nothing wrong with being a gay Mariah fan, even if you aren't, people think we're all are by default. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 19:25)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,384) (96,388) by Edward from USA I guess she'll say that because that's the version she ended up releasing. I don't think she was going to be giving props to a song nobody had ever heard, given the circumstances. Just like she hated "Hero" and then all of a sudden she found out how much she loves it. I think she just can't stand "Hero" but she also knows that people identify that song with her, almost as her signature song. After her memoirs, I take everything she says with a grain of salt. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 18:26)

Re: Mariah's legacy (96,385) (96,387) by Aliya from Canada Love your outlook and I'm on the same page. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 17:15)

Loverboy versus (96,386) by Terna from Nigeria Seriously? We're comparing the two versions now? Lol. Anyways I like both and can appreciate the absolute [musical] genius Mariah is for coming up with the [Candy] version and making it work. I can appreciate the [Firecracker] version, but it kinda digressed after a few spins for me and sometimes sounds "noisy", too loud, with too much going on at some points to make sense musically. Vocally Mariah sounds healthier on the Firecracker version but the Candy version has a better vocal performance (she uses her voice more) by far than the Firecracker one. It's playtime is also longer giving it room for more adlibs and let's not forget the shade by [Da Brat] sing rapping to the melody of the stolen sample "Hate on me much as you want to." Lol. Epic. These reasons are why I prefer the Candy version over the [Firecracker] one. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 17:12)

Mariah's legacy (96,385) by Anonymous from USA First things first, I deleted my account on this board a few years ago but now I'm back. I've not posted in a while because of all the negativity on this board but I've learned to simply ignore and skip those messages from those people when I see their avatars. Mariah Carey is a living legend. Her music has inspired many people and will continue to do so after we are no longer here. Of course her voice has changed a lot but her passion for writing, recording and producing music she loves has not. We may not love some songs that she has released but they are still far superior than anything else being recorded out there by other artists. I personally am very excited about the new book, The Rarities and anything else coming our way this Christmas. I will always support her no matter what anyone here or anywhere says about her because she is a true living legend and there's no one that compares or even comes close to her creative genius. And simply because I am a grown man and no one tells me what to do, think or feel about anything. Period. Much love to all the true fans out there. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 14:51)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,383) (96,384) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada In a recent WWHL aftershow interview Mariah said even though the situation with the Firecracker sample really upset her at the time, today she actually prefers the Cameo version. Clearly an unpopular opinion here. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 14:47)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,375) (96,383) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia Oh good Lord. You know too much. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 11:34)

Re: Firecracker vs. Cameo Loverboy (96,379) (96,382) by Will from Australia There are elements of the Firecracker sample I like, especially the spoken loverboy parts but I'd narrowly give the Cameo version the win, it had a better flow and is more upbeat, finessed. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 11:05)

Ariana, Jennifer, and Mariah's new Christmas song (96,381) by Nikki from usa This is exciting news. Three ladies on one track. What kind of song do you think it will be? A ballad? Dance track? Pure Pop or an R&B slant? I'm also excited Mariah's Magical Christmas Special is going to be set up like a story. It's been awhile since we heard from Bard Mariah. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 08:08)

Not connecting with The Rarities (96,380) by amends from Germany I've been listening to the LP a lot and I really want to love it but somehow I am not connecting with the album. I feel like I should love Loverboy (Firecracker) and other songs on the album but somehow it's just not doing much inside of me. Obviously I love EFA, Slipping Away and DYTOM. I've been blasting those songs for a long time though, so nothing new there. The memoir on the other hand I appreciated very much. Coming from Arab parents and being gay, growing up in Germany and always feeling like an imposter in some way - I for one understand the hair obsession Mariah had as a child and the damage something simple like this can leave behind. The book is her truth and sometimes it's easier to lie to yourself so much that it becomes your reality. Not saying I'm making any excuses for MC - she has her issues and she is dealing (or not) with them in her own way. If writing that book helped her emotionally, I am happy for her. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 08:08)

Re: Firecracker vs. Cameo Loverboy (96,364) (96,379) by Nikki from usa The Firecracker sample is more pop which most of this board leans toward. The people who like the original, remake, Cameo version are more likely R&B/hip-hop fans. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 07:54)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix (96,370) (96,378) by Nikki from usa I don't know which version Mariah prefers, but I believe she was referring to getting a 48 million payday and out of her contract with Virgin Records. 20 million for Glitter and a 28 million buy out. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 07:50)

Re: Solid Mariah (96,372) (96,377) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines My bad. Yeah, Invincible was Michael's last proper studio album. I remember loving that album then, especially tracks such as You Rock My World and the trifecta of Break of Dawn, Heaven Can Wait, and Butterflies, but I also remember how much Janet was on fire then and how All For You was just a much more interesting, varied listen. Michael was the much bigger seller, star, and better performer, but Janet was the wiser artist in terms of production choices, image management and taking full advantage of her limited voice. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 05:43)

Re: Let's get back to being fans (96,326) (96,376) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Listen, Big Willy. I let the rather cheeky rebuttal of my very pertinent and astute points go. I even let the Celine Dion clown pants thing go (clearly the world is not ready for circus-chic, yet - but A New Day will come). So you get your bum back here and post some stuff about a spreadsheet of all the Mariah spreadsheets you have made, or something. Seriously, are you okay? I would hope that you are okay and well. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 02:30)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,373) (96,375) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Eddie thinks I am gay for you but you don't need romance, you just wanna dance. Right? Don't worry. Unlike Eddie after a few cocktails and a free cab ride, my lips are sealed. (Wednesday 21 October 2020; 02:00)

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