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Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,356) (96,366) by Chicago Lamb from USA It was too late to rush release and beat J.Lo to radio. J.Lo's was released without warning. I do like the Firecracker version, feeling it is much more in line with the eighties theme and sounds better on the album. (Tuesday 20 October 2020; 15:21)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,352) (96,365) by Shezz from Pk Firecracker version all the way. It is exciting, fun and infectious with that amazing intro and outro and more energetic vocals and ofcourse that infamous sample. (Tuesday 20 October 2020; 15:18)

Firecracker vs. Cameo Loverboy (96,364) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I'm not one to crap on other people's preferences or their reasons for such preferences, but I really think that many people who say they "prefer" the Cameo version over the Firecracker one just have nostalgia glasses on. I remember hearing Loverboy for the first time as a kid having difficulty to make out the words she was singing. The chorus was a little too muddled and hard to latch on to. It was the first lead single of hers that I could consciously remember listening to for the first time (I was just too young to recall anything released before Fantasy) and feeling underwhelmed by, especially since Fantasy, Honey and Heartbreaker were all so good. It was also the lead single that I recall really trying to like just because it was Mariah's. I've eventually grown to appreciate the dissonance between the melodies and the overpowering sample, Mariah's vocals (which sound like she had a cold when recording them), and the limp singing of the chorus. The Firecracker version may have an intro that is about 8 bars too long, but when the first verse kicks in, it really hits you and the bounce doesn't let up until the song ends. Its delivery is cheekier, more fun and engaging. In a way sort of reminds me of how the Bam Jam Soul Mix of Dreamlover, which was reportedly intended to be the final version but was also shelved. (Tuesday 20 October 2020; 09:32)

Solid Mariah (96,363) by Geronimo from USA If you exclude Mariah's top 10% and bottom 10% songs and albums in terms of quality and/or recognition, can you think of another artists since 1990 with such a thick, solid recording record left over? She's never just thrown songs on albums as filler, but made each project with sincerity and skill. Her deep cuts rival Michael Jackson, the Beatles, and Stevie Wonder for the sheer number of "obscure" songs and albums that another generation will discover and wonder where that music has been their all their life. I think the concept of her legacy is almost impossible to frame in this moment. The fact that some people even think reactions to her public persona will determine her impact in the future shows that few people consult history. (Tuesday 20 October 2020; 07:54)

Re: One Night (96,353) (96,362) by Edward from USA I love "One Night", had it been included on "Daydream", it would've definitely been a potential single, but I guess it wasn't saccharine enough. You can clearly hear all the beautiful nuances of Mariah's voice in its full expression. Out of all the 90's tracks on "The Rarities", it's the only one you can distinctively recognize as a "Daydream track". Loverboy (Firecracker) is bouncy and contagious, with better vocals and no messy-sounding like the Cameo one. The sample is far superior and better executed too. Sadly it just went to waste on JLo's song. "Here We Go Around Again" is a track I never skip, because I enjoy it very much. Every time I listen to it, I can't help but always wait for a great set of high notes that never come, lol. I think it was a good idea leaving it out of "Mariah Carey", not because the song is bad or anything, but compared to the rest of the tracks on "Mariah Carey", it sounds dated. If Mariah has other tracks like "One Night", "All I Live For", and "Out Here on My Own", we'll definitely see more rarities in the future. Sadly, unlike #1's, the new recorded track is subpart. For the next one she should secure a #1 with a duet with Ariana Grande. (Tuesday 20 October 2020; 02:10)

Re: Here We Go Round Again (96,354) (96,361) by Hilton from USA I looooooooove this song. (Tuesday 20 October 2020; 01:33)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,355) (96,360) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Oh Todd, I thought one look at you looking like a dream come true would leave me speechless like you always do. But alas, I am no longer in England. I am now in Wales. South Wales. The old one. Apparently, there's a new one somewhere. (Tuesday 20 October 2020; 01:20)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,352) (96,359) by Mirage_Nunez from America Agreed. Loverboy (Firecracker) would've debuted at number one. It's just more hard hitting than the Cameo (Candy) version imho. I could see the video for the Firecracker version being more of a juke joint style video sort of like the one she did for Don't Stop (Jamaican Funk 4), but more uptempo with energetic hip hop dancers in the background. It gives me jamboree vibes. Lol. I went from thinking Loverboy was her weakness lead single (up until that point) to it being one of my absolute go to favorites now. I can't help but I want to strut my stuff in public while listening to it on my headphones. I be having to catch myself. #majorupgrade (Tuesday 20 October 2020; 00:17)

Re: One Night (96,353) (96,358) by Mirage_Nunez from America One Night reminds me of something Prince and/or TLC would do. Melodically and harmony wise it gives TLC Waterfalls vibes. The whole storytelling and subject matter aspect reminds me of some Prince's songs; along the lines Raspberry Beret, Boys And Girls etc. (Tuesday 20 October 2020; 00:06)

Apple Music (96,357) by We are lambily from USA Yet once again Mariah is in the top 20 most streamed female artists of all time on Apple Music. The only artist who debuted before 2000s. The power of her music. (Monday 19 October 2020; 22:16)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,352) (96,356) by Joe from United Kingdom Have to agree with you. I never liked the Cameo version and was never a lover of the remix with Da Brat. Firecracker version was much better. MC should have stuck to her guns and rush released this version before JLo. (Monday 19 October 2020; 21:54)

Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,352) (96,355) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia I'm with you on this one, England. The Firecracker one craps all over the Cameo one. (Monday 19 October 2020; 21:27)

Here We Go Round Again (96,354) by Andrew from the United Kingdom It is well-documented that I am no fan of the debut album. But this song is infectious and fun. I even love the ending Mariah czlls "iffy". Iffy? It was perfect. This should have been second in the tracklisting on the album instead on There's Got To Be A Way which is terrible. It also should have been a Migra... I mean a single. (Monday 19 October 2020; 17:58)

One Night (96,353) by Andrew from the United Kingdom So even Treacle Tots hates One Night. I do not get this. At all. One Night is Daydream era voice Mariah opening with a beautiful ballad intro and bursting into a wickedly funny, bouncy, melodic, fun song. I imagine Summer sunset evenings with young groups of girls and guys in shorts walking through Miami by the beach, electric possibilities in the air, everyone having fun, laughing, throwing glances, enjoying life. And Mariah walking through them singing to them to keep it in their pants. This song is amazing. (Monday 19 October 2020; 17:52)

Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,352) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Miss Stacey, you have relinquished your right to an opinion by stating you prefer the Cameo version of Loverboy. For the love(rboy) of all that is good and pure, what is it about the slow-paced, no-chorus, bad-intro, two-merged-songs Loverboy that you prefer? Honestly, Firecracker Loverboy is a thousand times superior to Cameo Loverboy and exponentially superior to Remix Loverboy. We all have our opinions. I am just lucky mine are always correct. I think Firelover Crackerboy is one of the most exciting songs Mariah has ever recorded and I can only the imagine the excitement on the set when the crew heard it. That song in 2001 would have debuted at 1 and stayed there for months. Would be interesting to hear which version everyone prefers and why. (Monday 19 October 2020; 17:46)

Article: Mariah Carey's very good, very bad two weeks (96,351) by musshu1981 from spain This lamb has 3 books and 4 rarities. (Monday 19 October 2020; 17:28)

Re: The future is not looking good (96,343) (96,350) by Sasha from Nomansland If you say so. (Monday 19 October 2020; 11:53)

Re: An objective view (96,344) (96,349) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I meant "the former being a better album". Wow editing your thoughts on your mobile can be tough. Daydream is the far more creative and artistic effort. Music Box was a transitional album between Mariah's earlier, more traditional pop-soul stuff an in some ways a precursor to Daydream's R&B influences. (Monday 19 October 2020; 11:18)

Re: Article: Allure is not happy about being left out of memoir (96,345) (96,348) by Stacey from USA Ouch. (Monday 19 October 2020; 09:52)

Re: Article: Allure is not happy about being left out of memoir (96,345) (96,347) by Dennis from Miami, FL 'Zat you, Morgan? (Monday 19 October 2020; 08:06)

Divas 98 (96,346) by Stacey from USA Much ado about nothing. Have a great day. (Monday 19 October 2020; 07:29)

Article: Allure is not happy about being left out of memoir (96,345) by TMG from USA The "memoirs" tries to rewrite history with countless falsehoods, deceptive stories, omissions of people/events and omissions of fact about actual events that happened. It took an entire village behind the scenes to create this long career fans could support. The facts that are left out lies to the Lambilies and clearly this "author" knew they will believe whatever is in print in this aggressively marketed and promoted "memoir". It served a purpose targeting a buying audience that contributes to a marketing success story which in the end is apparently more important to its authors than the whole truth and nothing but the truth. (Monday 19 October 2020; 00:10)

Re: An objective view (96,340) (96,344) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Well, yes, Mariah has been half-assing it especially in the last decade in terms of live performance. This is pretty much expected - she just doesn't have the stamina to withstand marathons of performances, nor does she have the discipline to take care of whatever is left of her voice. She has always been a studio artist first, and if given the choice (if the sales haven't dropped dramatically), she'd probably remain a studio rat rather than do tours and concerts. This is by no means an excuse for her "laziness", but this entire situations can really be frustrating. As for her diminished sales, I'll say it again - most of this is because she just caters to a different audience. Sure, her polarizing image does hurt her sales to some extent, but based on my experience in my country at least, people out here don't care about Celine's image either. They just tend to buy Celine's material more because her brand of harmless MOR is just more likable in comparison, and really, much of the album-buying public just tends to gravitate towards such type of music because the melodies are more accessible and hence hold more replay value to them. I won't be surprised if this is also the case in most countries internationally. This may be illustrated by the fact that Daydream sold less than Music Box, despite the latter being the better album. R&B is a genre that isn't as transcendent and doesn't have the same level of crossover appeal as adult contemporary pop, which I feel is also the reason why we love Adele so much, because not only does she bring things back into perspective (the simple combo of sheer talent + great timeless songs), her output also harkens back to those simpler days when big, sweeping ballads reigned supreme. Celine isn't a jazz artist and neither is Barbra, but the former gained a lot of Barbra's fans when they collaborated in 1997. She has a more loyal and reliable fanbase, the same way rap, country and jazz artists do. That's just proven by how Barbra or Michael or Lil' Wayne or Garth Brooks shoot to the top of the sales charts with their new releases with minimal promotion. Madonna is a great touring artist who really tries to give the audience the best show possible, and that's why she, up until Madame X, has been effortlessly selling out arenas around the world. Mariah, on the other hand, just expects the music to speak for itself in her concerts and, on a good day, would be willing to do more of the bare minimum in her performances. The lack of enthusiasm and effort she displays is quite concerning, and the audiences recognize that, which is why she isn't as celebrated as other touring artists are. (Sunday 18 October 2020; 19:31)

Re: The future is not looking good (96,342) (96,343) by Lady B from USA "Then maybe her legacy will be saved." This is nonsense. Drivel. Absurd. Her legacy is cemented no matter what she does moving forward. She has the most #1s of any individual artist and wrote 18 of them. She's had #1 hits in 4 decades. Nothing changes that. (Sunday 18 October 2020; 16:20)

Re: The future is not looking good (96,325) (96,342) by Sasha from Nomansland I wish she would just stop making music for herself and focus on writing and producing others artists. Then maybe her legacy will be saved. (Sunday 18 October 2020; 13:51)

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