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Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,262) (95,271) by Bill from the UK In fairness, there is an awful lot of material that hasn't been released before if the tracklisting is real. The three b sides, whilst most of us have them on singles, fans have been screaming for them to be more readily available than they are, especially Slipping Away. Personally I'm looking forward to having them all together. As for All In Your Mind Take 2, I'm holding out hope of a deluxe 30th edition of the debut that will feature demo recordings and alternate takes. That would be an amazing way to end MC30, by going right back to where it all began. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 09:23)

Re: Butterfly Bossa Nova Remix (95,266) (95,270) by Bill from the UK Yep, one of the best mixes she ever did and in my top ten for sure. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 09:15)

Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,257) (95,269) by Warr-en-Peace from United States One thing that could point to the track list being pure speculation is that Save The Day is listed as "Save The Day (with Laury...)" whereas we know from the official release of the song that it appears as "Save The Day (with Ms. Lauryn Hill)" on the album - note the addition of Ms. Therefore, we know this is an incorrect detail on the "leaked" track listing. Not to also point out that anyone can create and rename a list of audio files on a computer and make it look like something "leaked". I wouldn't pay this track list much attention. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 09:06)

Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,261) (95,268) by TJ from Norway Agree. I was hoping for some real "unreleased" stuff. Fingers crossed. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 09:04)

New vocabulary (95,267) by Bobby A from United States I wonder what new vocabulary words are we going to learn on The Rarities. Lol. 33 days until October 2nd. 29 days until September 29. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 03:31)

Butterfly Bossa Nova Remix (95,266) by Brad from USA Just expressing that I really enjoy this remix. I wasn't previously aware of this remix. Thanks. Enjoy. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 00:48)

Re: Butterfly EPs and recap (95,250) (95,265) by Korey2 from United Stated Please don't discredit your hard work sir. I was already wondering if we would get to see your recap... and gratefully we did. Thanks once again for taking the time to do so. Hope you have a streaming delightful weekend. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 00:40)

Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,257) (95,264) by enwar00 from usa Ok I'm stoked for this. It seems pretty accurate, and the only differences from what I had gathered is Can You Hear Me? I had as the second track, and either Hypnotized or Here We Go Round Again as the first track. Also, I had Mesmerized as track 12. I was also unsure of tracks 5, 6, and 15 and thought maybe they would be Ecstasy, Panic The City and The Crave Song. I guess we shall see. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 00:36)

Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,261) (95,263) by enwar00 from usa I am extremely happy that Do You Think Of Me, Everything Fades Away, and Slipping Away are being included on this album. I prefer them over an alternate take of All In Your Mind. Since people are wanting that hopefully she'll put that on an expanded or deluxe version of the debut album or something of that nature. Who knows what else may be in store. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 00:25)

Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,257) (95,262) by cBerr from Canada I can't even. If that is the tracklist - I'm out. I will not get taken by the bait and switch again. She said on GMA, and I quote: "Basically I found stuff in my vault, that I had either started to work on a long time ago and never released, or that I wanted to finish mixing or whatever but, they are songs that have not been previously released." Again, "not been previously released". That is all I have to say. BTW, since it's still technically part of the same point - does anyone think the Underneath The Stars video will ever see the light of day or were we just being trolled? (Saturday 29 August 2020; 00:11)

Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,260) (95,261) by Edward from USA That track-list looks real, but if it were so, where did "All In Your Mind, Take 2" be? Why tease us with it? I don't need 'Everything Fades Away", it was already on a CD and easily available. At least "Do You Think Of Me" and "Slipping Away" were B-sides. (Friday 28 August 2020; 23:25)

Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,257) (95,260) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Hope this is true. Yup, I saw this make the rounds last week as well. And if there's anything I have learned in the last decade, that's to never underestimate redditors. That's why groups such as the Reddit Bureau of Investigation exist. Good enough to unearth solve decades-long cold criminal cases and mysteries better than proper authorities, I'm guessing perhaps at least a few lambs are there, and if there's anyone more than capable of leaking the tracklist, it's them. (Friday 28 August 2020; 19:32)

Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,257) (95,259) by Stacey from USA Sad Yours ft JT isn't there. But if this is accurate, pretty good tracklisting. (Friday 28 August 2020; 18:26)

Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,257) (95,258) by LEOlamb from USA I don't believe "I Pray" would end up on 'The Rarities' as if everyone remembers Mariah let that little kid record and perform it on the Oprah show back in the day. Paul Robbins, recorded and performed it, I remember feeling how amazing it would have been if Mariah did the opening lyrics Lord I pray That in my lifetime There will come a day It gives me goosebumps. (Friday 28 August 2020; 17:34)

Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,257) by Bill from the UK Saw this go by on Reddit. Think the track list is all but confirmed now. The ordering is incorrect here in some cases, but I've seen these titles crop up on most speculative lists. Hypnotized, Can You Hear Me, Crave and the original Loverboy are what I am most excited for. (Friday 28 August 2020; 16:53)

Re: Butterfly EPs and recap (95,254) (95,256) by Bill from the UK Haha. Not sure I could manage that job, but I certainly would happily work as her archivist and compilation/EP/remix consultant (for free of course). (Friday 28 August 2020; 15:58)

Re: Vision Of Love EP (95,252) (95,255) by Bill from the UK Correct Will. Vision of Love, Love Takes Time, I Don't Wanna Cry, Can't Let Go, I'll Be There, If It's Over, Hero, Without You, Endless Love, All I Want for Christmas Is You, Joy to the World, Open Arms, and Forever are all EP-less singles currently. No remixes were commissioned for Vision of Love, I'll Be There, If It's Over, Without You and Forever, so that makes sense. Open Arms and Hero only had their Spanish versions. However, Love Takes Time, I Don't Wanna Cry, and Can't Let Go had radio versions released on the singles at the time. Up until now I haven't included Love Takes Time's single version on my list because it is so barely different it is probably just a different mix rather than an official alternative version. For those interested, the version released on the UK commercial singles pushes the whistle register at the end of the bridge way into the back of the mix, whereas on the album version it is much more prominent. I'm hoping the Christmas tracks have their own EPs soon. I agree a Vision of Love EP with the live versions from Thanksgiving, MSG and the Medley from the debut album would have been good. (Friday 28 August 2020; 15:57)

Re: Butterfly EPs and recap (95,250) (95,254) by tadatorao from japan Obviously Bill should've been the one replacing Stella as MC's manager. (Friday 28 August 2020; 15:27)

Re: Dear Delulons (95,236) (95,253) by Randy from USA One of the best posts on here ever. I love MC and want her to win. That doesn't mean she will never strike out during the game. (Friday 28 August 2020; 14:07)

Vision Of Love EP (95,252) by Will from Australia So I'm going through Spotify making my own best of #MC12 playlist and I realise that there's no EP for VOL? Is that because there were no remixes? I would've taken the demo version and live performances, help me Bill. (Friday 28 August 2020; 13:18)

#1s Era Remix EPs (95,251) by Bill from the UK As before, here are my hopes and thoughts for the #1s remix EPs. There are some amazingly rare, and brilliant, remixes of Do You Know Where You're Going To that I pray will appear. Fingers crossed. * Denotes a vinyl only release. [P] Denotes a promo only release. Sweetheart 1. Radio Edit 2. Without Rap 3. The Story 4. The Story Instrumental 5. The Dance 6. Lil Jon Remix 7. Instrumental [P] 8. A Cappella [P] 9. M.'s Pounding Vocal 10. M.'s More Bounce to the Ounce Vocal* [P] 11. M.'s Pounding Dub* [P] 12. M.'s Beats & Bounces Mix* [P] A handful of vinyl-only, promo-only remixes for Sweetheart which I hope will see the light of day digitally. The promos are all relatively easy to find however. When You Believe 1. TV Track 2. Instrumental I very much doubt these will be issued - but would be great if they were put out with the Oscar performance or something. I Still Believe 1. Stevie J. Remix 2. Stevie J. Remix Edit [P] 3. Stevie J. Remix Instrumental* 4. Stevie J. Remix Clean 5. Stevie J. Remix A Cappella* 6. Morales Classic Club Mix 7. Morales Classic Club Mix Edit 8. Morales Classic Club Mix - UK Edit 9. Damizza Reemix 10. Damizza Reemix Edit 11. Damizza Reemix A Cappella 12. Damizza Reemix Instrumental* 13. The King's Mix 14. The King's Mix Instrumental 15. The Eve of Souls Mix 16. The Eve of Souls Mix - UK Edit There is a 10-track EP already available for streaming. Hopefully MC30 will remove that and replace it with the 16 available remixes mentioned above. Do You Know Where You're Going To 1. Mahogany Club [P] 2. Mohogany Club Extended [P] 3. Mahogany for Clubbers [P] 4. Mariah Bonita [P] 5. Mariah Bonita Club [P] 6. Mariah Bonita Club Edit [P] These are the ones that would be brilliant to have. Only available on a Brazilian promotional picture CD (899.743/2-492409). I sold mine for about £700 a while ago, so would love to have these again. (Friday 28 August 2020; 13:14)

Butterfly EPs and recap (95,250) by Bill from the UK Hi all. Everyone set your faces to bored, it's the return of Bill's Weekly Remix EP Recap. I'm also going to start including track times where applicable to help differentiate remixes. The main highlight is of course the Butterfly Meme club remixes, which were previously only available on South American promotional CDs. They were mega rare and also unbelievably expensive whenever they appeared for sale on eBay etc. When I hit hard times I reluctantly sold my copies (Mexican and Brazilian variants). I was heartbroken, as I knew I'd never likely possess them again, but I was £1,800 better off lol. I was also very glad to see Breakdown get its own EP, as I was worried it would be skipped due to there only being two remixes - nice to see it fleshed out with the album version, which we all love. There were also some vinyl-only remixes that are now available to stream and download in clean, crisp quality: Honey (Def Rascal Anthem) Honey (Def Rascal Dub) The Roof (After Hours Mix) The Roof (Bass Man Mix) That said, unfortunately there have once again been some omissions from the EPs. Only The Roof and Breakdown were fully in tact. Honey Smooth Version No Intro (4:25) The Smooth Version with Intro (4:47) was released commercially in a number of territories across a number of formats. The No Intro version was only available on a handful of promotional items. Given MC has been releasing promotional-only remixes (Underneath the Stars, Butterfly etc.), I'm surprised this wasn't included for completeness. Butterfly TV Track (8:44) TV Track Short (4:21) Sambatterfly (8:26) I was so, so disappointed that these three were not present on the EP, as they will likely never now be available to stream. The Samba Edit (4:44) and the Samba For Clubbers (8:28) made it, so why the regular Samba version (8:26) didn't is a mystery. The Mexican promo CD (PRCD 97251) contains all three. I can only suspect it was deemed to be the same remix due to the track length being the same as the For Clubbers version. The TV Tracks being missing is also quite frustrating for completists like myself. Again, my suspicion is that they were thought the same as the Radio Instrumental and Instrumental club mixes, but they are of course different. The TV Tracks are on the Brazilian promo CD (899.500). My All Full Crew Main Mix Full Crew Main Mix Without Rap* Full Crew Main Mix Instrumental* Only one of the Full Crew remixes (the Radio Mix) has been included. The Main Mix was available commercially on a number of releases, so I can't fathom why it never appeared. A real shame is that the Without Rap and Instrumental versions were promotional, vinyl-only remixes, so my dream of owning Mariah's entire remix catalogue digitally has now been shattered into a million pieces. Mi Todo Original Version Version Por Una Noche Mas Version Mi Fiesta Por Una Noche Mas En Los Clubs Por Una Noche Mas Instrumental I'm holding out hope these will be included at a later date alongside the Spanish Versions of Hero and Open Arms. These are great mixes, that are also very hard to find, so a bit of a blow to not see them this week. The only commercially available version is the original, and that appears on a very scarce Mexican single (CDMIX 658685). The remixes can be found on the Mexican promotional CD PRCD 97427. Below is the running log of missed remixes. Hopefully the Merry Christmas ones will appear nearer the festive season. An asterisk* denotes the remix is available only on a vinyl release. A [P] at the end denotes a promotional-only remix that is not available on a commercial release. Missed Remixes Log I Don't Wanna Cry (Radio Edit) [P] Medley (Prisoner/All In Your Mind/Someday) Can't Let Go (Edit) Can't Let Go (Edit - No Intro) [P] Make It Happen (Extended Version - Radio Edit) [P] Hero (Spanish Version) Endless Love (Instrumental) Endless Love (Mariah Only) Endless Love (Luther Only) All I Want for Christmas Is You (So So Def Remix) All I Want for Christmas Is You (Extra Festive) All I Want for Christmas Is You (Super Festive) All I Want for Christmas Is You (Mariah's New Dance Mix) All I Want for Christmas Is You (Mariah's New Dance Mix Edit) All I Want for Christmas Is You (Mariah's New Dance Mix Extended) Joy to the World (Celebration Mix) Joy to the World (Celebration Mix Edit) Joy to the World (Flava Mix) Joy to the World (Crash Dub Crash)* Joy to the World (Club Mix) Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) (Radio Version) [P] Fantasy (Puffy's Mix) Always Be My Baby (Reggae Soul Mix) Always Be My Baby (Reggae Soul Dub) Always Be My Baby (Reggae Soul Acapella)* Open Arms (Spanish Version) Honey (Smooth Version No Intro) [P] Butterfly (Sambatterfly) [P] Butterfly (TV Track) [P] Butterfly (TV Track Short) [P] My All (Full Crew Main Mix) My All (Full Crew Main Mix Without Rap)* [P] My All (Full Crew Main Mix Instrumental)* [P] Mi Todo (Original Version) Mi Todo (Version Por Una Noche Mas) [P] Mi Todo (Version Mi Fiesta) [P] Mi Todo (Por Una Noche Mas En Los Clubs) [P] Mi Todo (Por Una Noche Mas Instrumental) [P] (Friday 28 August 2020; 12:44)

Honey EPs (95,249) by HoneyLamb from Germany Sigh, maybe it was just me being naive, but I had really hoped that she would release the “Honey 2008 Summer Remix” this Friday. (Friday 28 August 2020; 11:45)

Re: Debut voice (95,241) (95,248) by Stacey from USA Which performance of Vanishing are you talking about? Curious. (Friday 28 August 2020; 07:14)

Re: Dear Delulons (95,236) (95,247) by Stacey from USA Well said. Tommy controlled everything, including it stands to reason how she treated her voice. It's no secret her voice started taking a turn for the worst after they separated. Even if she didn't smoke or drink, being around people who do, breathing that smoke in is just as bad. Celine is around Mariah's age and I don't cringe everytime she gets up to sing. She lipsyncs too, but there is no doubt she's taken better care of her voice. I think Mariah is the better talent, but Celine wins in the voice care department. (Friday 28 August 2020; 07:08)

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