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Re: Everything Fades Away (93,106) (93,110)
by Bill from the UK
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She re-recorded AIWFCIY for MCIIY, Hero for The Ballads, and Can't Let Go for Can't Say No.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 06:55)
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Re: Evergreens (93,099) (93,109)
by Norman from USA
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Interesting. Hasn't her success out in the UK been a bit of a mixed bag?
Her 2 #1 songs there are covers: Without You Against All Odds
Her first single was a top 10: Vision of Love - #9
Her first top 5, however, is also a cover: I'll Be There - #2
The rest of her top 5 runs? Endless Love - #2 (cover) AIFCIY - #2 Fantasy - #4 Open Arms -#4 (cover) ABMB - #3 Honey -#3 My All -#4 WYB -#4 Heartbreaker -#4 IKWYW -#3 It's Like That - #4 WBT #2 TMB -#5
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 05:42)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,103) (93,108)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Yup. JD was basically an earlier, less obnoxious and more tolerable version of DJ Khaled when it comes to ensuring his stamp was on his productions.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 04:51)
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What career achievement makes you most proud? (93,107)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Just like many other fans, for the longest time it was also TEOM for me. That was, and somehow is still the proudest time to be a lamb because of how she triumphantly proved every naysayer who has written her off wrong.
But that has changed to the release of Caution, at least to me. It is one thing to have these landmark "flashy" career achievements that many know of ans cherish - blockbuster successes, high accolades, and flawless live performances - but there's definitely something to be said about the almost unanimous critical acclaim that Caution received. In a world where legacy artists are often told to retire than embarrass themselves with one underhwelming release after the other (Madonna being the best example, and Janet for a while from 2001 up until Unbreakable was released), Caution was also somehow a personal achievement for Mariah, who finally accepted the limitations of her current voice, at least on record.
Caution wasn't a commercial success by any means, but I feel like it is hasn't fallen on deaf ears for casual fans as well. I remember watching many videos from YouTubers counting down their best albums of 2018. Understandably, they filled their top 10s with releases from current artists with huge, rabid fanbases to shut them up and remain in their good graces, and for every video that has left out Caution, many young frequent commenters / subscribers have pointed out the album's absence in such lists. The album seems to be Mariah's most beloved effort since E=MC2, maybe even TEOM, at least from what I have observed from my time in many YouTube comment sections. And while many would deem mere YouTube comments as an inaccurate, even ridiculous gauge of public reception, when you consider that a huge bulk of the people who even care to comment are from the younger demographic, every praise and like the album gets shouldn't count as nothing.
Caution is an understated proof that the magic is still there, 28 years into Mariah's career.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 01:27)
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Re: Everything Fades Away (93,105) (93,106)
by Bobby A from United States
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This is so good. She should re-record Melt Away with Babyface for 2020 and release as a single for the summer. A few remixes with Bruno Mars and JoJo would be great too. But MC has only re-recorded one song in a her whole career and that was Hero with the Never Too Far/Hero Medley. So it probably won't happen.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 00:49)
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Re: Everything Fades Away (93,104) (93,105)
by Billy from Greece
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So great hearing this. And the live snippet of "Melt Away" sounded so good.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 00:17)
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Everything Fades Away (93,104)
by Lee from UK
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She did that. I'm loving these back stage moments. First, Slipping Away and now, Everything Fades Away. My 1990s inner child is satisfied.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 23:28)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,096) (93,103)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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That is true Bill JD does talk a lot on the record. I genuinely think I've learned to tune him out over the years.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 23:20)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,096) (93,102)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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"Y'all know what this is."
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 21:54)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,095) (93,101)
by enwar00 from usa
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You can't sit with us.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 21:20)
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Re: What career achievement makes you most proud? (93,073) (93,100)
by RhondaC from UK
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I remember being on holiday in Sorrento with my parents, our hotel was about 30 minutes walk from town centre so every morning we'd set off, I'd put my headphones on and listen to E=MC2. Whenever I hear it now I still feel that summer vibe.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 21:08)
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Re: Evergreens (93,098) (93,099)
by Bill from the UK
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It's a different story in the UK. At best, adult contemporary stations will play Hero, I'll Be There and Without You. Maybe Endless Love every five years. That's it. Then AIWFCIY gets played everywhere all December long. So I guess it balances out.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 20:18)
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Re: Evergreens (93,078) (93,098)
by Norman from USA
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I live in LA and constantly hear Mariah played in various places around the city all year long. It actually surprises me to hear her songs played so frequently. It's mostly stuff from Emotions, Daydream and Music Box, but it's played. It's justy experience, of course.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 18:56)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,086) (93,097)
by Tijl from Belgium
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Hilarious. MOAIA defined as the walk of shame home.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 18:33)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,081) (93,096)
by Bill from the UK
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So, listening to the album now due to the talk about it, and I've remembered why I don't play it that much. JD. Never. Shuts. Up.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 17:59)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,093) (93,095)
by Bill from the UK
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Haha. I think it's the usage of the word "Chick". But I'm That Chick(en Leg) is a great re-title. Up there with Crapfinity. I'm a big MJ fan as well, so on paper it should work, but the weak lyrics, silly title and general embarrassment of it all is what causes me to dive for the skip button when it comes on. I think I made a playlist that axed it and replaced it with Heat and it flows much better.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 17:31)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,086) (93,094)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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I love your ranking. I'd just need Butterfly in there somewhere occasionally
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 17:28)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,089) (93,093)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Okay, I get why you hate Boy, but I'm That Chick(en Leg)? The sacrilege. How dare you? How very, very dare you?
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 16:53)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,086) (93,092)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Love the rankings for the different moods. Perfect description. Yes Caution for the next morning.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 15:37)
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New music 2020 (93,091)
by Bobby A from United States
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I can tell music is taking a more of dance-oriented feel with self-empowerment and self-love lyrics this year with the release of Sza's and Justin Timberlake's The Other Side and Lady Gaga's Stupid Love this week. We are in for a fun filled Spring and Summer. It is so good music taking this direction, because with more cases of the Coronavirus happening people are going to be spending more time at home listening to music and watching TV.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 14:49)
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Re: Evergreens (93,078) (93,090)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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It's not cool to like Mariah. And whereas it isn't exactly "cool" to like Whitney or Madonna songs, it's not *not* cool. This is a result of Mariah acting like a clown to be mimicked and mocked for the best part of 2 decades. Joe Public does not respect that.
As for Celine, she was only ever mainstream "cool" for about 4 years and then she went to Vegas. The divas, while similar are not really comparable.
That being said, I have tickets to see Celine in London this year. As uncool as it may be, I am psyched. I will have seen Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston and Celine Dion. I can die happy. Any Celine fans wanna come with?
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 12:44)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,081) (93,089)
by Bill from the UK
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You know it's never been a go to album for me, but every time I do listen to it, I love every song. Except I'm That Chick, obviously.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 12:22)
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Re: What career achievement makes you most proud? (93,080) (93,088)
by Tijl from Belgium
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Her management under Benny Medina and the guidance of L.A. Reid was the force behind her "comeback". That era is still one her best in videos, imagery and television. Her performances at the MTV Music Awards and the MTV Movie Awards were epic. I like E=MC2 as an album but the TEOM era was outstanding because it brought her back to the top of music's firmament.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 10:22)
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Re: Emotions Daydream Tour (undubbed) (93,077) (93,087)
by Bill from the UK
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Beautiful. There was never a need for her to ever dub her performances from the 90s.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 10:15)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,081) (93,086)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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E=MC2 is a much more fun listen. It really is dessert to the main course. I can't blame anyone who listens to it more because it's lighter and more enjoyable. TEOM is a more classic sounding set and strikes the perfect balance between retro soul and (then) current sounds.
I listen to 4 albums in succession according to the mood they evoke for me:
TEOM - The lavish dinner / early party. E=MC2 - The fun and carefree main club event. Caution - The late afterparty where things start to slow down / the sonification of midnight. MOAIA - The sobering early hours of the morning leading up to daybreak where you get to deal with the hangover and start regretting everything stupid you did the night before.
When I'm in the mood for more of an 80s afterparty, I switch out Caution for Glitter. This is how I get festive on Mariah tunes.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 09:08)
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