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Salaam Remi (92,661) by T from USA I wonder why Mariah has never worked with Salaam Remi. He's helped produced some of the biggest songs plus has worked with artists that she loves and respects; Nas, The Fugees, Doug E Fresh. I hope she's involved with Lee Daniels' new movie in which Salaam Remi is producing the music. (Wednesday 29 January 2020; 14:23)

Re: Mariah's sizzling picture / Dolly P. challenge (92,653) (92,660) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines It is hilarious, though, how the 3 of the 4 images feature the 3 men in her life she has been with the longest - the first husband (LinkedIn), the second husband and baby daddy (FB) and current boytoy (IG) and then a completely random throwback men's mag type photo from a racy photoshoot from almost 2 decades ago (Tinder). The sense of humor is just on another level. (Wednesday 29 January 2020; 12:28)

Re: Hip pop (92,657) (92,659) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Just like I said - it was Mariah who popularized it. The Fantasy remix was the biggest hip pop song of the 90s, even bigger than Black or White, a pop hip-hop song that went to number 1 in 1991 as well. Janet's You Want This featuring MC Lyte was actually a top 10 hit in 1994. But it wasn't until Mariah came along with the Fantasy remix that such type of duet gained so much popularity mostly due to the stark difference between Mariah and ODB's styles of music at the time. It was a very unexpected, unconventional move and that made it seem like such a novel idea at the time even if someone else did it first. If anything, the recognition is actually less about Mariah getting the song to #1, but more about her proving that a full-fledged successful hip-hop crossover is possible for an established pop artist by merging the 2 genres seamlessly. (Wednesday 29 January 2020; 12:10)

Re: Hip pop (92,652) (92,658) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines That's different, because Mariah isn't a hip-hop artist to begin with. Otherwise she would have been credited for that even before Fantasy came along. Her rapping on Prisoner just means she incorporated a few rhythmically spoken lines into her own song and is obviously not an example of her popularizing the "thug love duet", with "duet" being the operable word. By your logic, Janet Jackson's Nasty and What Have You Done For Me Lately would also qualify and would have even been more influential as they were released earlier and were actual top 5 hits. A pop artist infusing her own songs with hip-hop by herself is different from the same pop artist collaborating with an established hip-hop artist, and it's the latter that Mariah is actually recognized for. (Wednesday 29 January 2020; 11:47)

Re: Hip pop (92,656) (92,657) by Tijl from Belgium That is a typo webmaster, obviously. I would never write "Maria". (Wednesday 29 January 2020; 11:36)

Re: Hip pop (92,649) (92,656) by Tijl from Belgium Maria [sic] was the first to get a "Hip Pop" song to #1. That is why she is remembered as the one breaking boundaries. (Wednesday 29 January 2020; 10:03)

Re: Mariah's sizzling picture / Dolly P. challenge (92,653) (92,655) by Tijl from Belgium Made by David Lachapelle during the "Glitter" era when selfies didn't even excist. (Wednesday 29 January 2020; 10:01)

The remixes (92,654) by Nikki from usa I'm pretty sure the songs were chosen for the US lambs. We don't get all the extras that are automatically included in the international releases. I would've never heard Miss You otherwise. Through the Rain's remix was a #1 on the dance charts and I believe the rest also charted well or were popular in the US on the club scene here. I always wondered if some of the choices were based off Mariah's favorites or not. I wouldn't mind another release with some more thought put into it and some actual promo this time. Daydream 2020 with its remixes for the era too? (Wednesday 29 January 2020; 07:13)

Mariah's sizzling picture / Dolly P. challenge (92,653) by Nikki from usa Do these fools seriously think that bikini picture from Rolling Stone is a selfie? That's a high quality photo shoot. (Wednesday 29 January 2020; 06:57)

Re: Hip pop (92,649) (92,652) by Nikki from usa Also, Mariah Carey Prisoner - she actually raps in that one herself from her debut. (Wednesday 29 January 2020; 06:55)

Dolly Parton challenging (92,651) by Dove from United States I love it. It's so funny. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 23:33)

Re: Ariana Grande (92,646) (92,650) by Terna from Nigeria I think Mariah doesn't duet with females often because her vocals, harmonies, layering, melodies and key she might choose to sing in are on another level and the female duet partner might not be able to keep up and then there's also the tendency for it to become a screaming match. Lol, and honestly Arianna's vocals aren't mature enough to pair with Mariah's. She just gives me this kiddies vibe on all her recordings that I don't take her seriously. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 21:19)

Re: Hip pop (92,647) (92,649) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines To be fair, there were a few other efforts to bridge those two genres before Mariah. Michael did it for Black or White, Janet did it for You Want This, even Madonna did for I'd Rather Be Your Lover. But it was Mariah who popularized it. And like you mentioned, the idea that Mariah, an adult contemporary artist at the time (and probably the last artist in the world that anyone would have ever associated with ODB) had the audacity to go hip-hop then largely contributed to why it was such a pivotal moment. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 20:18)

Re: Ariana Grande (92,646) (92,648) by We are Lambily from USA I hope so too, the media tried to do the same thing with Mariah and Whitney. But the girls met and they fell in love with each other. Ariana loves Mariah and Mariah acknowledged her, now they just have to meet and hopefully work together. Imagine the harmonies, the whistles at the end, the vocals, the hot video. It can end with Mariah wearing a crown and giving Ariana another one. So "the next Mariah" debacle ends. But it just a thought. I would rather have a uptempo then a ballad. Mariah will never be able to recreate the magic she had with Whitney with anyone else. So switch up the gears or do whatever the ladies want. But her manager (forgot his name) has her in his control. That's why she couldn't support her friend through all this, but hopefully she cheered her up when the public and everyone else wasn't watching. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 19:43)

Hip pop (92,647) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Mariah is credited with bridging the gap between pop and hip hop for female artists which is the formula today. Also the remix was also a number 1 song as well as the original. No one expected MC to pair with ODB and there [sic] creation would become the standard for female pop artists. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 18:42)

Ariana Grande (92,646) by SM from Citizen of the World Waiting patiently for a song with Mariah and her. I'm sure it 99% won't happen but I'm gonna be the 1% hoping lol. It doesn't even have to be a hit or radio song, would love to just see what they would come up with, or even just a new remake of one of Mariah's songs. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 18:03)

Re: The Remixes re-imagined (92,641) (92,645) by Bill from the UK Nice one Will let me know what you think. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 12:01)

Re: Billie and Finneas (92,643) (92,644) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines That's how I felt when I first heard two of their first songs from Billie's 2017 EP, Idontwannabeyouanymore and Bellyache. I knew their sound was going to be polarizing but interesting if they broke into the mainstream. And sure enough, they did. Call Billie's music depressing, morbid, sleepy, macabre, lethargic, whatever - these two have a certain signature to their craft that is cool to hear in today's mostly same-y soundscape. It's no wonder that of all the albums released in the first half of 2019, it was her release that was able to consistently remain in the Billboard 200 top 10 by the end of the year despite having just one #1 hit. She has the ability to connect to both today's generation and the older ones as well and the two songs I mentioned are good examples of how she is able to do both - there's a modern side, but there's also some old soul inside her. And for someone who just turned 18 months ago, her songwriting is quite mature for her age. And her hushed harmonies are gorgeous. Of course like all sorts of revolutionary/innovative sounds throughout history, this will always be met by some resistance, but like you said, it still gives us hope that music still finds a way to evolve through innovation. It's not gonna be for everyone, but I'd rather have that than stagnation. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 10:23)

Billie and Finneas (92,643) by Dove from United States I had only heard Bad Guy but I've been listening to more of their songs today and I'm quickly becoming a fan. They're giving me hope for the future of music. I just had a Devil Got My Woman moment (from the movie Ghost World) with the Grammy performance of Billie Eilish singing When the Party's Over. I think I've listened to it for about four hours straight on repeat. It spoke to my soul. I know this is a Mariah Carey fansite but I feel like I need to share my experience. I'm impressed at how young she and her brother are and they have these deep songs that describe exactly how I've felt at certain times in my life. A lot of songs by young people today are superficial, or try too hard, or are generic, or seem calculated but these songs are so good IMO. I hope they continue to evolve. I'm excited to see where their musical journey takes them. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 02:19)

Pop Hip Hop crossover (92,642) by Will from Australia I've never quite got why Mariah gets all the applause for making pop and hip hop collaborations a thing when it was done for years before her. And the claim that "but she made it mainstream" is just lies because the biggest selling song of 1992 worldwide was "Black or White" by MJ, The King of Pop - which featured a heavy rap verse. Who at that time was the most famous person in the world and the song went number one everywhere. Now if anyone made it mainstream I'd argue that that was the song, but even in 1986 Run DMC and Aerosmith had a Hot 100 No.4 with "Walk This Way". I'm sure there are countless other examples pre Fantasy. If anything, I would say Mariah made the image of a wholesome girl next door getting ghetto with rap thugs a thing and it's shock factor became its legacy. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 01:40)

Re: The Remixes re-imagined (92,635) (92,641) by Will from Australia I just screenshot that list to explore Bill so thank you. I trust your taste and knowledge of Mariah to already know that these are the go to remixes and tbh I've so many singles of MC with remixes on them I've never had the patience to go through them to find my favourite remixes. I know, I'm a bad Lamb. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 01:14)

Re: Hidden song - Love Take Time (92,639) (92,640) by Bill from the UK Well the list Terna gave was "pregap" songs, these are songs a really before the first track on albums (where you need to rewind the first track on the disc to hear it). Regular hidden tracks appear after a gap following the final song. Love Takes Time was straight after Prisoner, so it was always intended to be on the album, but early promotional copies of the album either didn't feature it or didn't list it on the tracklisting, yet contained it on the disc. And yes, according to The First Vision, Mariah wrote Love Takes Time for Emotions, but Tommy et al thought it was too good to wait, as he felt the album needed more ballads. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 00:01)

Re: Hidden song - Love Take Time (92,607) (92,639) by TJ from Norway I noticed that Alanis Morissette is missing on that list, so it might be older songs that should have been on that list as well. Who knows? Wasn't the song originally going to be on her next project, Emotions? (Monday 27 January 2020; 22:09)

Kobe Bryant (92,638) by Terna from Nigeria Losing someone isn't easy, especially a family member and then the head of the house along with a child? I can only imagine what his wife is going through now. I too lost my dad last December on the first. It hits you like a lightning bolt and you're never really the same. May God carry her and the remaining children in this trying time. This is so sad. (Monday 27 January 2020; 22:02)

Re: Billie and Finneas (92,631) (92,637) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Appreciation for music has always and will always be a matter of personal taste. And we digest music in different ways as well - some go for the melody first, some the production, some the lyrical content, and some how an entire song or collection of tracks (I was about to say "body of work", but you know, Andrew would not let me hear the end of it even if it lacks the word "cohesive" ) works as a whole. Much of the criticism hurled towards Billie is for being strange, for relying too much on mumbling and whispering, for creating darker-themed content, for not creating what some consider as conventionally "good" music. It doesn't matter whether those are fair or not because they're valid to those who make them and that's understandable. As someone who appreciates what sounds fresh and new, Grammy or no, I appreciate artists who actually come up with something that challenges the comfort levels of the general public when it comes to what they consider listenable or even of quality. Sometimes it isn't all about innovation - sometimes it can be about bringing what's unconventional into the mainstream. Mariah actually wasn't the first artist to collaborate with a rapper in a song - Janet, Madonna, Michael, etc. actually did it earlier than her, but Mariah is mostly credited for that nonetheless because she was the one who did it well enough to gain mainstream success and widespread critical acclaim. But in the end the appreciation and accepetance of these things are something that we can and will always agree or disagree on in varying degrees. And that's okay. (Monday 27 January 2020; 21:42)

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