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Subtle Invitation (92,586) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa I really hope that we get an album of beautiful gems like this one. One Night With Mariah Tour to follow, including songs like Babydoll, The Roof, After Tonight, 4th of July, Mine Again, Thanx 4 Nothin, Betha gon know, and of course 8th Grade all done in arrangements in the same realm as Subtle Invitation. I am so here for it. I love this performance and her live vocals (which are most of the vocals). Watch here. Enjoy. (Saturday 25 January 2020; 03:14)

Re: Charmbracelet (92,575) (92,585) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa How dare all of you. I've fallen in love with Charmbracelet so hard since just before Caution was released. Back in the day it was her whisper tone that didn't grab me and I felt that the samples were not used creatively, which she was always great at. But it finally got to me and I've been in love with it for real. I am literally totally shocked that my faves were written off the tracklist that started this post. (By the way, all posting on here is fun for me, I am not in any way bashing anyone else's opinions or stirring drama.) That being said. Boy (I need you) is sooo nice to listen to now. It's just cool and so effortless. And it just sounds pink. Like totally pink and I love that. Clown. This song. I call it the "sweet dis". I have never heard someone read for filth in the sweetest tone. Her flows are flawless and so melodic. Seriously when I go off on people I aim for eloquence and composure and that's what that song does for me. Again, totally effortless. I have it right up there with Breakdown. Subtle Invitation. Ok, so I'm a huge fan of jazz, especially with female vocals. I love live instruments also. Subtle Invitation is the first grown woman track that I have hear by her. She uses so much restraint in her voice until she needs to let it out. It is so bluesy as far as the tone she is setting in her story. The song is extremely relatable and I love how it feels like a whole movie to me. It is one of her modest songs and I love it so so so much. And finally, possibly my all time favorite song by Mariah ever, Lullaby. I can't listen to this without getting all emotional. Everyone can relate to this song and her word choice, her tone, her attitude and approach. It is just so her, it's so personal. The opening notes and when that beat kicks in reminds me of 80s MJ a tad. This is The Roof pt 2. The Roof is my 2nd face of hers right behind this one. That scene that she paints when she sings in minor. I can't get enough of it. I feel like she uses the minor notes much more in this song than usual. The song sounds sexy, seductive, familiar, but excited (that beat) and also cautious. Which to me, are all the feelings that rush when seeing an ex again that you still have sexual chemistry and feelings for. Impeccably captured and executed. Ok. That being said, here are the fillers that I skip always: Through the Rain (including remix) My Saving Grace Sunflowers Bringing on the Heartbreak The One Remix is so much better than the original to me. I think because I like how clear she sounds when she is not in that sweet tone with all the layering. It reminds me of My All/Stay Awhile video vibe and I love that. Ok, that's my 2 cents. Just for reference: I've been a lamb since '90 and Mariah made me believe in Santa Claus (story for another time). And I'm a huge fan of Caution, loved her vocals in a lower register and 8th Grade is everything. (Saturday 25 January 2020; 02:37)

Re: The Marammys (92,574) (92,584) by Will from Australia Great addition Edward and a tough one but I've gone back into the vault for one that, if released at the time would've taken over the airwaves. Single that wasn't but should've been: Till The End Of Time (Saturday 25 January 2020; 00:06)

Re: Charmbracelet (92,580) (92,583) by Licia from USA Subtle Invitation never grabbed me. It's a nice song, but I skip it a lot. (Friday 24 January 2020; 23:40)

Re: Charmbracelet (92,578) (92,582) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I got it anyway. (Friday 24 January 2020; 22:20)

Re: The Marammys (92,574) (92,581) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Eddie, I mostly agree with you. But some alterations: Album (of the career): Butterfly Power ballad: All I've Ever Wanted Beautiful vocal ballad: Whenever You Call Up-Tempo: Fantasy (non-rap) Mid-Tempo: You Don't Know What To Do (is this mid tempo?) Cover: The Beautiful Ones (the "I may not know, I may not know" part is everything and everything after) Rare: Everything Fades Away (it's not rare for Europeans but it's still puts the awe in awesome) Lyrical: Languishing (baring your soul has never been so simple or subtle or moving.) Christmas: Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) Duet/Feature: Hero at Pavarotti and Friends (I don't have the words to describe it. The humility on her face, the wonder in his eyes, the harmony, the brave performance when she was clearly scrapping herself. That was Mariah sans bullshit. My dad, who hated her, said "wow". I have played it to death.) Live Performance: Anytime You Need A Friend (live at Proctors theatre - My brother, when he was 16 years old, watched it on VHS and said "I've never seen a person get so into her music" and I never forgot it. It was the first time I saw Mariah, also. We all sat aghast. We three brothers all later went on to travel to London to see Mariah in 1999.) Uptempo Remix: My All ("feel your body feel your body feel your body baby baby" - nothing beats the first time hearing that level of genius) R&B Remix: Honey (So So Def) (Its better than the original - the screaming st the end is fuh kin A. Adding:  Single that wasn't but should've been: You Don't Know What To Do (would've put her back on the map) (Friday 24 January 2020; 22:16)

Re: Charmbracelet (92,580) by Jeff from USA Licia, you don't like Subtle Invitation? That's one of the highlights on CB for me. I agree with you on You Got Me; that's a great song. I love the story behind Sunflowers more than I like the actual song. I don't think it was a good one vocally, but I can understand that emotion makes it difficult to sing. (Friday 24 January 2020; 22:13)

Re: Charmbracelet (92,575) (92,579) by Licia from USA I agree with most of your list, but I would take out Sunflowers (sad song I've only listened to once), I Only Wanted (not a fav), and Subtle Invitation (that one is meh to me). I'd add back You Got Me and You Had Your Chance. I'd also add The One remix at the add. Vocally it sucks (that's the one vocal CB moment where I cringed), but I love the use of the Goodbye Love sample by Guy. The only order of the songs I'd change is MSG has to be first for me. That's my song. (Friday 24 January 2020; 20:47)

Re: Charmbracelet (92,577) (92,578) by Tijl from Belgium That should have been "tantrum". Lol. (Friday 24 January 2020; 15:26)

Re: Charmbracelet (92,575) (92,577) by Tijl from Belgium Be careful to use "cohesive body of work". Some people get into a trantrum. (Friday 24 January 2020; 15:02)

Re: The Marammys (92,574) (92,576) by Bill from the UK Single that wasn't but should've been: Migrate (Friday 24 January 2020; 14:58)

Charmbracelet (92,575) by Bill from the UK I've been thinking about this album a lot lately (waves to Licia), and what it would take for me to engage with it fully. Part of the problem I have with it is the length of the album and the hushed/whispering vocals. My revised tracklisting would be as follows: 1. Through the Rain 2. The One (without rap version) 3. I Know What You Want 4. Yours 5. I Only Wanted 6. Clown 7. My Saving Grace 8. Subtle Invitation 9. Bringin' On the Heartbreak (single version) 10. Sunflowers 11. Through the Rain (remix) I've axed a lot of the filler and I think its condensed length makes it a more cohesive body of work. I upgraded IKWYW to a proper track rather than a bonus one, and included the single versions for BOTH and The One. I might go turn this into a playlist now actually. (Friday 24 January 2020; 13:50)

Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,574) by Edward from USA Album (of the career): Butterfly Ballad: All I've Ever Wanted Up-Tempo: Fantasy (Non-rap) Mid-Tempo: One & Only Cover: The Beautiful Ones Rare: Everything Fades Away Lyrical: Butterfly Christmas: Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) Duet/Feature: Endless Love Live Performance: If It's Over (live from: Grammy Awards 1992) Uptempo Remix: Honey (Morales Remix) R&B Remix: Thank God I Found You (Make It Last) Adding: Single that wasn't but should've been: Migrate (Friday 24 January 2020; 13:35)

Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,573) by Bobby A from United States This is a great topic. I have been so busy with work this week, who started this topic? Kudos. (Friday 24 January 2020; 12:31)

Re: Grammys (92,565) (92,572) by Musti from UK I hope something good comes out of this. I doubt that document is legit. Definitely a fan's type-up rather than a document with legal arguments. But at least it's cooking up quite well. Twitter seems pretty angry. (Friday 24 January 2020; 10:53)

Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,571) by Tijl from Belgium Uptempo Remix: H.A.T.E.U. ( Jump Smokers Remix ) R&B Remix: My All/Stay Awhile (So So Def Remix) featuring Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz (Friday 24 January 2020; 10:52)

Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,570) by Bill from the UK Worthy additional categories Stacey (thumbs up): Club Remix: Dreamlover (Def Club Mix) R&B Remix: I Still Believe (Pure Imagination Remix) (Friday 24 January 2020; 07:53)

Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,569) by Will from Australia I’m loving everyone’s varying taste, and thanks Stacey for adding more categories. Uptempo Remix: Heartbreaker/If You Should Ever Be Lonely (Junior’s Heartbreaker Club Dub) R&B Remix: We Belong Together (Remix) (Friday 24 January 2020; 00:57)

Re: The Marammys (92,547) (92,568) by Pablo from Spain Album (of the career): Butterfly Ballad: Till the End of Time Up-Tempo: Migrate Mid-Tempo: Breakdown Cover: El amor que soñé (Spanish Open Arms) Rare: Imperfect Lyrical: Breakdown Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You Duet/Feature: The Beautiful Ones Live Performance: Petals (Rosie O Donnell) is the one that has always stuck in my mind. **Adding another two categories, favorite remixes.** Uptempo Remix: H.A.T.E. U Jumpsmokers R&B Remix: My All/Stay Awhile (Friday 24 January 2020; 00:32)

The Marammys (92,566) (92,567) by ADAM from USA This is a fun game. See my answers below Album (of the career): Daydream Ballad: Can't Let Go Up-Tempo: Fantasy (original) Mid-Tempo: Always Be My Baby Cover: Without You Rare: Slipping Away Lyrical: Outside Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You Duet/Feature: I'll Be There Live Performance: Anytime You Need A Friend (TOTP) Uptempo Remix: Can't Take That Away (Morales Remix) R&B Remix: ABMB (ft. Da Brat & Xscape) (Friday 24 January 2020; 00:27)

Re: The Marammys (92,562) (92,566) by Stacey from USA Album (of the career): Daydream (duh) Ballad: Till the End of Time Up-Tempo: Fantasy (original) Mid-Tempo: Always Be My Baby Cover: The Beautiful Ones Rare: Slipping Away Lyrical: We Belong Together Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You Duet/Feature: I'll Be There Live Performance: Butterfly (Saturday Night Live) **Adding another two categories, favorite remixes.** Uptempo Remix: Honey (Morales Remix) R&B Remix: ABMB (ft. Da Brat & Xscape) (Thursday 23 January 2020; 23:19)

Re: Grammys (92,561) (92,565) by RibbonB from USA I just read the same tweet, but amended by a Barb to have Nicki's name and Chun Li as AOTY. Lol, also fan fiction. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 21:38)

Re: The Marammys (92,563) (92,564) by amends from Germany Album (of the career): Butterfly Ballad: Outside Up-Tempo: It’s like that Mid-Tempo: We belong together Cover: O holy night Rare: Slipping away Lyrical: Close my eyes Christmas: Miss you most Duet/Feature: Oh come all ye faithful (I get goosebumps every single time) Live Performance: Anytime you need a friend Tokyo (Thursday 23 January 2020; 18:54)

Re: The Marammys (92,563) by Jeff from USA Just for laughs. Album (of the career): Butterfly Ballad: My All Up-Tempo: Fantasy (Remix) Mid-Tempo: WBT Cover: BOTH Rare: Looking In Lyrical: Close My Eyes Christmas: AIWFCIY Duet/Feature: When You Believe Live Performance: Emotions (1991 VMAs) (Thursday 23 January 2020; 14:59)

Re: The Marammys (92,547) (92,562) by Bill from the UK Love a list. Album (of the career): Butterfly even though it's not my fave Ballad: Till the End of Time Up-Tempo: Fantasy (original) Mid-Tempo: Always Be My Baby Cover: I'll Be There Rare: Slipping Away Lyrical: The Roof Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You Duet/Feature: Endless Love Live Performance: If It's Over (Saturday Night Live) (Thursday 23 January 2020; 13:06)

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