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Re: Grammys (92,559) (92,561) by Musti from UK Caution was probably considered for the R&B categories. I'm prepared the believe the AOTY consideration too, seeing how they robbed her throughout her career and maybe thought it's about time they gave her her moment. It's no secret that a lot of sketchy politics come into play when it comes to the Grammys. Look no further than 2006. And I'm really not surprised these news are not all over Google yet as the Grammys are more than likely trying to keep it under wraps or try to burn Deborah Dugan wherever it has leaked. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 10:44)

Re: The Marammys (92,547) (92,560) by Tijl from Belgium Album (of the career): Butterfly Ballad: Lead The Way Up-Tempo: Fantasy Mid-Tempo: Say Somethin' Cover: Bringin' On The Heartbreak Rare: Petals Lyrical: Close My Eyes Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You Duet/Feature: When You Believe Live Performance: Daydream tour (Thursday 23 January 2020; 09:55)

Re: Grammys (92,558) (92,559) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Done with the lies? But you were only just getting started. You posted a tweet from a random person that smacks of conspiracy and propaganda - and lies - and are pushing it because it goes along with your other conspiracy theories even though it is yet to have any foundation. You talk absolute shite and everyone knows it. You convince nobody. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 09:07)

Re: Grammys (92,552) (92,558) by We are Lambily from USA Too busy now with school stuff to respond to the other post. Read the articles about Deborah Dugan, she is having a nasty fight with a major company/industry with the mass media backing them. She was the former head of the Grammys with more knowledge than you miss. I trust everything the media says or doesn't say. More will unravel unless she gets the right amount of money and she retract [sic] her story. The Mariah part can't be found yet, but I follow reliable Mariah sources on Instagram/Twitter and some have never posted something false before. I will check the story when I have time until then it just confirms what a lot of people have been saying. The Academy's voters are mostly [made by] white men who don't represent the vast majority of everyone else. The ratings will drop more and more until they fix that. We make the media a lot of money since everybody reads about it the next day. Then they are forgotten for a year until the weeks of nominations. Can't wait for that trash show to get cancelled. They have always been biased against Mariah. I don't even think anymore Madonna wanted to start the show 2006, they made her and she didn't refuse (obviously). I can't wait for them to meet so they can hash something's out and work together. But Madonna is still a industry puppet unlike Mariah. Read this article for those who have always wondered about the Grammys shady business, such a great article. I hope no one watches this years Grammy. Ariana Grande will perform even though they snubbed her this year, she can change everything by breaking her contract and standing up for women but money speaks louder for most people until they get tired and they speak out. But most people know what happens after then. Operation let's tarnish this person reputation in order for us to believe whatever lie the machine puts in front of us unless you get killed. We are done with the lies. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 01:14)

Re: Butterfly (92,544) (92,557) by Licia from USA I get that a lot and the confusion is understandable. Lol. All I can say is for the mood my life was in at the time CB came out it just fit. Also the CB tour was my first live Mariah experience that I never thought I'd get so CB will always hold that number 1 spot. Although it doesn't work for you, at least you tried to get through CB. Lol. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 00:54)

Marammys (92,556) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Best R&B album: Butterfly Album of the year: Daydream/The Emancipation of Mimi Best pop vocal performance: My all Rap/sung collaboration: Breakdown Traditional R&B performance: Circles Best Gospel performance: Fly like A bird Best pop vocal album: Daydream Best producer non classical: Daydream M. Carey and W. Afanasieff Best vocal performance by a duo or group: M. Carey and Boyz II Men One Sweet Day Song of the year: Fantasy Record of the year: Always be my baby (Thursday 23 January 2020; 00:52)

Re: Grammys (92,543) (92,555) by RibbonB from USA Have you read some of the lawsuit, addressing all the corruption, manipulation, sexism and racism that she claims is associated with the Grammy wins especially in the major categories. I hope it is widely shared in the media. I didn't read that tweet, but the suit mentions Mariah's name from past Grammy shows. I doubt Mimi was in contention for Caution. It will be interesting if this is real, but I can believe some trickery with respect to Lemonade, but fans do like to create fan fiction, even if realistic seeming. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 00:39)

Tour (92,554) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Putting Trey Songz on any songs did nothing to help Mariah at all. She is a fan of hip hop and R&B and I respect that but at this point Trey Songz is not who he once was. He got hot after radio and the masses turned on CB after the Rihanna situation. Again I respect your opinion, however I just don’t think touring with Trey Songz would be beneficial to her at all. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 00:37)

Re: Tour (92,548) (92,553) by RibbonB from USA She keeps trying and failing with Trey Songz on her remixes. That's more business connection that Kevin Liles connection. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 00:36)

Re: Grammys (92,543) (92,552) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Searched everywhere to verify this tweet from a random person on twitter and I cannot find a news agency that backs this up. No mention anywhere. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 00:10)

Re: The Marammys (92,547) (92,551) by Randy from USA Dude we got to have the real Grammy categories: Album: Butterfly Record: My All Song: Butterfly R&B Vocal Performance: Never Forget You Pop Vocal Performance: Vision of Love Pop Album: Daydream R&B Album: Butterfly Packaging/Liner Notes: Butterfly Producer (Non classical):1997 Honey, Butterfly, My All, The Roof and Breakdown (Thursday 23 January 2020; 00:06)

Re: The Marammys (92,547) (92,550) by Dove from United States I love a list. Right off the top of my head: Album (of the career): Daydream Ballad: Lead the Way Up-Tempo: Fantasy Mid-Tempo: Make it Look Good (I think that's mid-tempo? If not, then #Beautiful.) Cover: Heavenly (No Ways Tired/Can't Give Up Now) Rare: There For Me Lyrical: The Roof Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You Duet/Feature: One Sweet Day Live Performance: Without You (Tokyo Dome) (Thursday 23 January 2020; 00:03)

Re: Butterfly (92,545) (92,549) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "Andrew" Who, me? Ok. "I couldn't care less of what you read." Well, you *could* have cared less. You could have not responded. Or not read it. "Your views on Mariah these past years says a lot of you as a person (for a so called fan)." Cool. "The fact that the greatest singer songwriter producer in the world says that's the album she is most proud of speaks volumes." Doesn't Mariah say that about every album she releases? She hardly says "Buy my new album, but it's not as good as the one before, I liked that better. It meant more to me." "Most people here fell in love with a [sic] image that's not Mariah." And people who are lifelong fans need emotionally unstable, angsty teenagers to reveal the truth to them, right? "[S]he [sic] still as talented as she started." Who denied this? Her output may not be as good, but that does not diminish her talent. Pray tell, where did you hear this, child? "[H]er album is musically better than every album of the year." How nice of you to bring up E=MC2. But moving on, Caution is "musically" better that every other album of the year? The *music* album by the *music* artist is *musically* better? In what other ways was it *not* better? "Mariah won't sell until she travels around the world and change [sic] people's views on her since worldwide media usually only report the bad stuff." Mariah doesn't sell many records anymore because the media reports on activities which have harmed her image and appeal? Seems to me the answer would have been to protect the brand in the first place. Post hoc ergo propter hoc, perhaps. "([Bad stuff] sells more.)" The mystery of Charmbracelet deepens. "The fact that Mariah sings circles around Adele even today." Is this a "fact"? It is written like an opinion. I mean, it looks like an opinion, it even smells like an opinion... seems like you're making a "staymuhn uhv yur own uhpihnyun." "Untied Kingdom most successful artist today." No wonder the kingdom is tied up in knots as nobody knows who to call the most successful. Because Ed Sheeran has reportedly sold more than Adele. "Always makes me laugh and smile." You? The emotionally frail child with no sense of humour or irony laughs and smiles? Well, good for you, kid. "Erase her past and judge her on today's vocals alone and she is still one of the most talented vocalists ever." Come on. I love me some Mariah. I listened to 3 albums back to back today alone and had someone laugh and tell me to stop singing Heavenly in the supermarket. But to assert Mariah is one of the most talented vocalists ever at this very moment in time? I wish it were so, don't even care anymore that it isn't so, and, well, just no. Stay in school, kid. "Caution lacked belting notes (which I don't really care for)." This is just conjecture, of course, but I would leave the farm to you and the horse you rode in on about a year ago that if Mariah's next album is somehow full of amazing belts, you would claim that it is, like, totally the best thing ever and you have loved the belting ever since you were, like, ten. Which I am more certain than ever would have been somewhere around 2018. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 23:57)

Re: Tour (92,541) (92,548) by Bobby A from United States If those type of artists are not her fan demographics, then why does she keep having Trey Songz jump on her remixes and have rap features on her albums? Lionel Richie doesn't have rap features on his albums. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 23:42)

The Marammys (92,547) by Will from Australia Just for laughs and we love a list don't we. If you had your own personal award ceremony celebrating Mariah's 30 years based on her catalogue and your own personal taste. Album (of the career): Daydream Ballad: We Belong Together Up-Tempo: Heartbreaker Mid-Tempo: Always Be My Baby Cover: Without You Rare: There For Me Lyrical: Looking In Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You Duet/Feature: One Sweet Day Live Performance: Hero (Tokyo Dome) (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 21:46)

Book signing / M&G question (92,546) by Korey2 from United Stated An interesting thing her team might consider for her book release. Jessica Simpson's new book is being launched with a small book tour. Fans buy a ticket and it includes a photo with Jessica and a copy of the book. I've wanted a photo with Mariah for years now (even considering a M&G at one of the upcoming Vegas shows) so it would be cool to me to know I could definitely meet her at a book signing. What do you guys think? Also for fans that have done the Vegas M&G how long do you have to chat with Mariah and how long does it take to get your picture? They take with their cameras correct? (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 21:27)

Re: Butterfly (92,538) (92,545) by We are Lambily from USA Andrew, I couldn't care less of what you read. Your views on Mariah these past years says a lot of you as a person (for a so called fan). The fact that the greatest singer songwriter producer in the world says that's the album she is most proud of speaks volumes. Most people here fell in love with a [sic] image that's not Mariah, she [sic] still as talented as she started, her album is musically better than every album of the year. Mariah won't sell until she travels around the world and change [sic] people's views on her since worldwide media usually only report the bad stuff. (It sells more.) The fact that Mariah sings circles around Adele even today, Untied Kingdom most successful artist today, always makes me laugh and smile. Erase her past and judge her on today's vocals alone and she is still one of the most talented vocalists ever. Caution lacked belting notes (which I don't really care for). That's not just what made me a fan. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 20:52)

Re: Butterfly (92,540) (92,544) by Bill from the UK Haha, it's no different to my attempt at trying to understand how CB is your favourite album. Every time I listen to it or its stupid songs I think of you, so that's a good thing to come from it. I always go into my CB listens with the best will in the world, but by the 19th chorus of Lullaby I just give up and switch to Daydream lol. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 19:37)

Grammys (92,543) by We are Lambily from USA Wow, this brave woman came out in a [sic] industry so dark and said what we all have been saying for years. Justice for Caution. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 19:32)

Re: Stripped performance (92,542) by Jeff from USA I love that particular live performance as well. She sounded great and I love the "Who Else" moments at the end. Also, how hilarious was it when she sang, "I don't know the way off the stage... oh." Haha. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 14:44)

Tour (92,541) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Robert Anthony while I appreciate your contributions on the message board that tour line up is not for MC or her demographic. That would be a great tour for Keyshia Cole or Jazmine Sullivan but it's way off base for MC in my opinion. Mariah if anyone should tour with Maxwell that would grown and catering to the right demographic. Trey Songz fits more of the Chris Brown, and Drake audience. Lionel Ritchie was the perfect fit even though an odd pairing. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 14:07)

Re: Butterfly (92,537) (92,540) by Licia from USA I love to see when we have difference views on certain songs because it makes me go back and revisit songs I ignored for whatever reason. Sometimes it works out and I end up loving the songs and sometimes I keep them stashed away in my trash bin. I'm pretty sure people still want to shank me for not appreciating Everything Fades Away and The Roof, but I tried really hard to like them. Lol. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 12:09)

Re: Butterfly (92,537) (92,539) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I'm travelling to work and on Close My Eyes having listened to Butterfly from the beginning. And I forgot just how out of place and depressing Babydoll is. It really is a total misfit. Were it not for Babydoll, Butterfly would be a cohesive body of work. Lmao. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 10:06)

Re: Butterfly (92,534) (92,538) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Stopped reading at "cohesive body of work". A reviewer's equivalent of polishing a turd. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 10:04)

Re: Butterfly (92,532) (92,537) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia I always find it so interesting to hear how one person's treasure is another person's trash. There are songs on Butterfly that I don't think I've given a second listen to - like Fourth of July and Babydoll. Or those Daydream songs that sound the same between Always be My Baby and Long Ago. But then again I think Through the Rain and Art of Letting Go are her best songs this side of the year 2000. So what do I know? (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 06:45)

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