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Re: Music biz today (84,581) (84,591)
by DK from USA
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Wasn't saying much other than sharing an article. Overall, the music business is in crisis - the market has become too accessible and diluted and the audience attention span is quite low. The last big moments I recall were Adele (Mariah has been there, done that at her prime), Taylor Swift/Rihana (again MC has done the popularity thing at their respective ages already), Despachito which tied MC record, etc. I don't know of any artists of Mariah's caliber (and longivity) who have surprised the business scene in terms of numbers (maybe Paul McCartney's recent nr. 1 in 36 years or Barbra Streisand's last album going nr. 1? - note... no singles mentioned here). Perhaps there is hope for the album depending on who else is releasing that same week or two.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 13:54)
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Re: I need help (84,589) (84,590)
by Bill from the UK
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These are all good points and I agree with you in part. There isn't anything really wrong with the song, it's just not the one to launch an album and new era off. It's as if she didn't learn from You're Mine (Eternal), as With You is very much in that vein and is similar in theme and sonically too. MIAM should have carried on the hype and success of #Beautiful with YDKWTD or Make It Look Good as they were both interesting and different from other numbers her back catalogue. When we hear the album, undoubtedly I'm sure there will be great songs on there and we will be left scratching our heads wondering why she and the label opted for With You as the lead. Also makes no sense how she got it right with GTFO by having the video ready for release, but as always is now delaying the lead single's video. Release the damn thing already.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 13:45)
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Re: I need help (84,575) (84,589)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Thank you. So much negativity has been directed to With You's selection as the first single that we lose track of its pros: 1. That pre-chorus is one of the best she has come up with in a long while. Those parts you pointed out are easily the best part of the song, especially the "yo..." in the second chorus where the background cuts for a bit to emphasize the alluring, affecting reverb on her lovely vocal. 2. The song has a very easy flow to it. Totally uncomplicated and easy to learn. 3. Dem harmonies. I cannot emphasize this enough. Really. 4. Despite its repetitiveness, With You is still her most melodic output since the best tracks in MOAIA. 5. The chord progression is simple but just beautiful.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 12:49)
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Re: Promo plan (84,560) (84,588)
by May from Denmark
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Let's face it. There won't be promos. Let's admit it, GTFO wasn't buzz, it was the lead song and it didn't pan out so they tried with the next ballad. The single was officially released on YT without lyrics and no video came soon after. So it stayed there, stagnant. If something doesn't change or a big surprise comes on soon this wil be another MIAM. She hasn't even release the name of the album neither talk about its content. Zero. Things are happening too quickly now at days because the internet and social media. It's like Mariah is still figuring out 2000s MySpace. I want to be positive but she makes it so hard.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 12:33)
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Re: GTFO (84,556) (84,587)
by May from Denmark
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4 million views is freaking sad if you think about it.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 12:26)
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Re: Promo plan (84,573) (84,586)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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That would just break my heart if they dump it like that, since it would just be a repeat of what happened to most of her recent singles. I was hoping this era would be more fierce in the sense that they will come in with both guns blazing to push her new releases.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 12:09)
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Re: Mike Will made it (84,572) (84,585)
by Licia from USA
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He gave me Faded so I'm hoping a couple make the cut just to see if they were able to replicate the magic. I was shocked and a little proud to hear that Mike Will had anything to do with that song. Didn't know he had that in him.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 11:04)
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Re: Promo plan (84,565) (84,584)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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I meant dropping the album right at the very moment she announces it right after her performance, because although people know she has an album coming up, they don't know the exact release date. It'll be like a semi-Beyoncé move, as the public isn't exactly unsuspecting and it's Mariah that announces its release live. Sure, breaking the internet is an exaggeration and is unlikely, but it would be nice if Mariah just released the album right then and there as a surprise. This is the only high-profile promotional stint she has so far that we know of (and I doubt she'll have any events/guestings bigger than this in 2018, save for NYE if she does it again) so she might as well milk this opportunity, especially since Dick Clark productions has just partnered with YouTube Music to expand the global reach of the show. Besides, doing the traditional way of announcing release dates increases the possibility for early leaks and the album would have already been spoiled come the actual drop.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 11:00)
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Re: I need help (84,575) (84,583)
by Shezz from Pk
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Haha I feel the same about the "war" and "yo" bits. Beautiful. Though my eyes did roll when I realised she was saying "yo". Then I also realised the magic of Mimi. She can literally make any silly lyrics sound so pretty. Imagine what she'd do if she went back to writing poetically instead. She could have made With You an even stronger song had she tackled the subject matter with more universally appealing lyrics instead of narrating the Bryan Packer saga almost so literally. The We Belong Together video fits this song like a glove. I'd rather her repeat a similar storyline for a video than beauty shots of her singing the song all over LA. Fingers crossed.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 10:17)
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by Bobby A from United States
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With You is catchy for a car ride to the grocery store, but it rather boring to listen to over and over. Listening to Steve Perry's new album Traces on the way to the gym made me realize that he may have just released the best album of 2018 and Mariah has given us less than what she is capable of yet again. Some parts of the song are fun, but the composition relies too much on cliches, song name checking, alcohol marketing and rehashed melodies. Mariah needs a My All for 2018. Now My All was MC at her best. At this point, the AMAs will not save With You from the disaster that is about happen next week. Radio is going to pass again on another Mariah song. Ed Sherran and MC should spend 5 nights this month locked in a studio until she can come up with songs like My All, Butterfly, Close My Eyes, We Belong Together, and Mine Again. We probably won't see MC15 this year. Just my thoughts after a week of a high reaction and loving it feeling to a major disappointment now.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 09:59)
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Re: Music biz today (84,570) (84,581)
by Bill from the UK
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Are we now saying flopping is all well and good to justify MC's latest "effort"? I'm sorry, that's nonsense. Someone has to be number one every week. It will just never be Mariah all the while she refuses to do anything differently.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 08:51)
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Happy BD Nick (84,580)
by RibbonB from USA
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And congratulations on his forthcoming late night show on Fox. Many other comedians have tried it, but that shouldn't stop him from trying. He might be quietly becoming the next Byron Allen.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 07:06)
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ENews Mariah Carey and JLo to perform at AMAs (84,579)
by 123 from USA
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And it begins. So every once and a while I listen to With You even though the addictive GTFO still gets the most play of her new songs, but it's becoming more catchy. I love the pre chorus. So I've decided I'm going to work on being more supportive. This roll out would have never happened a year ago around this time. Just look at pictures of her last September compared to today, just saying. Things have definitely turned around for the better. I hope she does a great job tomorrow. I need to hear this album.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 07:02)
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Re: Classic Mariah (84,527) (84,578)
by B from USA
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I'd prefer a gospel album produced by Mariah and Loris Holland.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 06:49)
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Re: BT (84,547) (84,577)
by B from USA
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Thanks. I think, lol.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 06:45)
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AMAs (84,576)
by Bill from the UK
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I think these are cute ideas about Drake showing up for the remix of With You, or MC announcing and releasing (sorry, "dropping") the album instantaneously as a surprise, but, who are we kidding? Let's be realistic. She will stand there, statuesque, breasts on display, high heels on, and lip the entire song, fidgeting with her diamond encrusted ear piece the whole time (or giving cues to the sound guys that the pre-record is to kick in, whatever you make of it), and yell out "eh" a couple of times. She will then be hoisted off the stage back to the dressing room so she can down another bottle of Caymus and overdo the shots of Remy. The circus is back in town.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 06:45)
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I need help (84,575)
by Edward from USA
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I can't seem to shake the lyrics "it was waaaaar..." and "he said, Yooooo..." out of my head. She harmonizes those lyrics so beautifully, I can't. They sound so pleasing to the ear. I actually think that given the right push, Mariah might have a slow burner under her skirt with this one. "GTFO" and "With You" sound great when played one after the other.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 05:53)
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Re: Will Mariah sing live at the AMA's? (84,569) (84,574)
by B from USA
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I think she will sing With You live.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 04:38)
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Re: Promo plan (84,560) (84,573)
by Shezz from Pk
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I have a sneaking suspicion that they're pulling the plug on With You because it's not selling. They built it up too much and people were not as taken by it as they were themselves. Silly though because the video, radio airplay and some promo would help it sell. The video looks liks it's a more artistic version of the typical Mimi videos of late. Strange that she keeps teasing the video but isn't even announcing its release date. Maybe they're working on something like a remix to save it. I don't think for a second that Drake is going to put himself on this song. Everything hangs on the AMAs performance tomorrow.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 04:29)
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Mike Will made it (84,572)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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Someone who attended the listening party let the cat out of the bag but they made a note that they do not know how many of songs he produced will be included in the final cut.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 01:59)
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Re: AMA's seating chart (84,559) (84,571)
by Atwood from NY
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You're right, she will probably leave after her performance lol.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 01:29)
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Music biz today (84,570)
by DK from USA
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In line with success expectations towards MC’s new music here is a good article that pretty much describes a very different industry landscape where flopping seems to be the the new norm... from Gaga to Christina.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 01:21)
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Re: Will Mariah sing live at the AMA's? (84,555) (84,569)
by loverboy from Canada
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She'll probably perform "With You" but I highly doubt it will be completely live. God forbid she sings a song completely live.
(Tuesday 9 October 2018; 01:09)
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Re: Promo plan (84,566) (84,568)
by B from USA
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All we know is she's releasing an album later this year that will include GTFO and With You.
(Monday 8 October 2018; 23:55)
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Re: BT (84,564) (84,567)
by Edward from USA
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I wonder when Tanake will get out of the picture. Someone on this messageboard has been cheating on her husband with him. Emotionally that is. It's somebody Special, but I'm not naming names, K?
(Monday 8 October 2018; 23:29)
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